Time to drop the usual BYU v Utah trash talk and think about this man's
family. Get into rehab Max. Get yourself cleaned up and make something positive
of your life. This is one Utah fan that will be rooting for you.
Very sad to see this! I hope he gets the help he needs. On a side
note - I wish he wasn't wearing the BYU shirt in his mugshot! Stay classy everyone...
This is no place to pile on. People make mistakes. I feel for his family.
I have never been a Max Hall fan but this is sad. I feel bad for his wife and
I know we don't have all the facts but this is truly discouraging and
unfortunate. It's amazing how long people can put on a facade and show
everyone what they want us to see, but obviously be struggling with issues
inside and demons that haven't been confronted. I hope Max figures this out
and does whatever he needs to do to be accountable and make things right. And
please Ute fans, no need to pile on with any of the rivalry "they threw beer
at my family" stuff. If this were happening to an ex-Ute I would feel the
same sadness for him and his family and whatever they are dealing with.
The irony of what happened here is obvious and needs no mention. I just hope he
can get his life in order and beat this addiction.
You know, as much as I despised this guy after what he said about the U and
it's fans, it is genuinely sad to see someone struggle with addiction. I
hope he gets help and overcomes his problem.
That is sad. I agree with Drummond.....get the help you need Max. I will be
rooting for you as well.
Let's hope this is the rock bottom he needs to start turning his life
Not cool. Sad to see him hit this low. On the other hand, these are still
allegations. Not convicted of anything yet. Of course, that doesn't stop
the press and everyone else from convicting him in public. If everyone's
dirty laundry were publicized, I believe we would all be more forgiving and
understanding. Get better Max (if in deed you did the things
you're accused of).
Hate to see this kind of turn in anyone's life.
I hate seeing this from anyone. Though he is on the most hated list for my Utes,
I never want to see anyone cut their potential in life by using drugs. I own a
meth cleanup company and see what drugs do to decent people.Hopefully he can get some help.
I would guess that Max Hall’s arrogant attitude got him to this place.
For as much I as disliked his lies, rants and insults against the Utes, I will
him the best. I hope he can straighten is life out and being a humble servant
of the Lord. I wish the best of luck to him and his family and a complete
This is really tragic. I hope this can get resolved in a way that is fair, just
and helpful for Max and his family. If he needs to be in rehab, I hope he gets
@Henry Drummond"Time to drop the usual BYU v Utah trash talk and
think about this man's family. "-----------I agree.
Let's all say a prayer and hope that Max can get some help and hope for the
best for himself and his family.
It's nice to see some nice classy comments on this type of article. People make mistakes and sometimes life just gets the better of you. I hope
Max can find his way back and work through the issues he's struggling with.
All I know is through God's love we can overcome the weaknesses and
trials in our lives and I pray Max Hall and his family will rely on that love
while they fight through this trial.
Get real help, Max. Addiction is a terrible thing, and this is your rock bottom.
It's only up from here.
Max Hall could be a very easy target for Ute fans as a result of this arrest.
Thank you Henry Drummond for your classy comment. I hope to be as generous the
next time a Utah player makes some bad choices. I agree with every word you
The guy is obviously hurting. I hope he can find the help he needs.
No doubt a sad story. So much history with Max and the Utes, but I hate to see
this. I wish him nothing but the best and I hope he can get things straightened
When someone faces challenges such as this--it is easy to make light but Max is
likely going through some tough times here. Good luck with the consequences
ahead, Max--you gave all of us BYU football fans some great moments and we are
pulling for you big time.
In all seriousness I wish this guy no ill will. He's made mistakes in the
past and for both he and his family's sake, here's another Ute fan
hoping he gets cleaned up and gets the help he needs.
Drug addiction and all that comes with it is nothing to laugh at. Hope he gets
the help he needs.
Wow...this puts Scott Mitchell's presence on the Biggest Loser in a totally
different light. So sad. Hope he figures things out.
Seeing this made me very, very sad. What does one say? I guess we can only
pray for him and ask that he, and his family, will recover from this. I hope
people can set aside their initial desire to slam Max and, by association, BYU
long enough to realize this story transcends petty school bias. If this story
turns out to be accurate and not an unfortunate mistake in reporting, it would
be my hope people will reflect on the phrase "There but for the grace of God
go I". None of us are immune to being brought down by our circumstances.
Some brought down harder than others.This is all our opportunity to
show a little human compassion and class.
As someone who has had a son go through addiction, I do not wish this on anyone.
Good luck to Max and his family, I hope he gets well for himself and for his
I hate to see anybody have to hit rock bottom. Sometimes that is the only way
to get a true wake up call to get your life turned around. We hope this is your
wake up call. We love you brother, hang in there!
I, too, feel sorry for Max and his family. I hope people will reach out to him
and support him as he comes back. Don't give up, Max! Work hard. We love
I usually like opportunities to have some fun at BYU's expense. Not this
time. I too feel sad for Max. He had so much going for him. Addiction can hit
anyone. I hope Max can get some help and get back on track with his like. Good
luck Max. Another Ute pulling for you.
Very, very sad situation, I hope he can get into rehab and get his life turned
around. Substance abuse is a dark lonely road, no reason to pile on, it can
happen to any of us.This has to be gut-wrenching for his family.
Man, that sucks.Good luck, Max. Don't let the haters get you
down. Not one of us, Cougar OR Utah fan is perfect. It would be wise for
everyone to remember that.All the best to you as you get your life
straightened out. You can do it!
Shocking story. I thought it was a joke when I first heard about it on sports
radio this afternoon.Very sad.
I am SO tempted to make a classless comment, but this is too shocking to be
funny. Here's a Ute wishing the best for a former foe.
Glad to see all the comments have been in good taste, though I fear that
won't last. Unfortunately getting caught may be just what he needs in
order to get him help. Hard to believe how far the guy has fallen. He must be in
a lot of misery right now. I'm hoping this turns out to be one of those
life changing rock-bottom experiences for him. I pray he has the support he
needs in all this.
Comment was rejected and I have no idea why. Lets try again. This type of
incident can happen at any program. Unfortunate, very unfortunate.
It appears that many Ute fans are proving Max wrong after all. You classy
comments are heart-warming. Drugs cross all borders and families. Good luck Max
Hall! Cougs and Utes are cheering for you this time.
Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone.
I appreciate seeing all of the kind, understanding comments here. I hope the
next time the DN prints an article on a undocumented worker who has a
misdemeanor that the commenters here are just as easy on them. If
convicted, Max's future will be in the hands of the Utah Board of Pardons
and Paroles. My only request is that they treat him the same as they treat
everyone else. The Draper prison facility has a narcotics program he can get
familiar with and AP&P have several resources he can rely on in the future.
I just hope he makes the very best of his situation that he can. It is very easy
to give up and so many prisoners do, every day. Good luck, Max.
Classy comment Drummond.I hope Max Hall gets the help he needs.I also hope that the Gilbert HS Tigers get support they need. Their head
coach is on administrative leave and now this. Hopefully people will reach out
to these young men and they can have fine examples in their lives that will
inspire them to be the best that they can be.
Classy comments from Ute and BYU fans. Nice to see that we can put the hype and
rivalry stuff on hold when we see a sad tragedy happen to a fellow human being.
This sort of thing can happen to anyone so it is a sobering thought for all of
us to ponder. I hope Max can get the help he needs and overcome his
Wow, what a terrible thing for Max and his family. This is really sad. I am
holding out hope that it's all some misunderstanding, but if not, will be
pulling for a come-from-behind victory for him.
What have I just read?
Nothing need be said about Max Hall's past comments that hasn't
already been said. It is unfortunate that his life has come to this. What is instructive is that anyone, Ute or Cougar, who judges or miscasts the
entire University, fan base, or players of the opposite school should examine
themselves closely and ask if their blanket judgments are ever warranted or even
morally justifiable. My experience says they never are.Hopefully
this man will get himself some serious help. No stones cast from this Ute
fan...just a hope that both sets of fans will put aside the absurd one
upsmanship that dominates sports comment boards.
Thank you for all the classy comments from the classy Ute fans. After reading
the article I fully expected to see comments from Ute fans making fun of Hall
and BYU by association. But I was pleasantly surprised. All of the Ute comments
(or at least those that made it through the DN review) were very classy and
respectful comments. I hope he is able to get his life in order. It is a sad
story. Prayers for his family too.
I'm impressed by the comments I've read, from both Coug and Ute fans.
I'm not going to lie and say my first thought wasn't along the lines
of karma. But the truth of the matter is it doesn't matter who the person
is or how we feel about them in relation to our meaningless little sports
bubble, when it comes to hard core drugs, it's no laughing matter. My
simple hope is that the stealing had nothing to do with needing to fund a habit
as would be the norm, I hope there isn't much of a habit at all. And
hopefully this arrest occurred early enough that it will help steer Max in a
better direction.All the best to Max Hall.
I hope for the best for Hall, and I also hope the well-wishes we see today will
also appear whenever an athlete for any other school gets into trouble.It would be heartening if this isn't just another case of "since
he's our guy, we offer condolences, but if its a guy from another school,
it's due to standards inferior to ours".
speechless. I guess no one is immune from the dark side. Too bad for him and
even worse for his wife.
Very sad. Glad to see both sides of the rivalry put it aside and wish nothing
but better days for Max and his family. Part of what fueled the rivalry in the
first place was Max's competitive fire and great play. Hope he channels
those strengths to defeat a much tougher foe.
These are hard drugs and this is as bad as it gets. Bret Farve was hooked on
pain killers from an injury and that's bad enough but the BIG 'C'
is the worst of the worst and Max obviously has hit rock bottom. No one is
immune from bad stuff in life and it takes tremendous support and help and dig
yourself out of addiction whatever it is.
Not sure all the hurts this guy may have endured in the privacy of his heart,
but I believe his core is good. He will beat this. I am sorry for him and his
family. Putting all the school pride stuff aside. He is suffering, like all
others who struggle with this do. This aint the time to be red or blue... its
the time to support him and others who silently struggle. Appreciate the
kindness on these posts. Thanks for elevating yourselves in this human tragedy.
Wish you all well in the 2nd week of football! Sorry about the
AGGIES.. rooted for you.
I just have to say how impressed I am with the majority of the comments from U
fans here on this story. we all know of the past comments made by Max in the
heat of the battle while playing for the Y. U fans could go anywhere with this
but most realize that this is a person with struggles in his life that hopefully
he can overcome . My hat goes off to Ute fans for showing their true class and
Lots of classy remarks from Utah fans. Life will always transcend football and
rivalries and it's refreshing to see people come together when
someone's life has gone astray in wishing them well and health and
happiness. No one wants to see anyone suffer regardless what color you wear on
Saturday. Thanks Ute fans for your class on this story.
You can tell by the mugshot something has gone horribly wrong in his life. He
needs help and it seems all sports fans in Utah are pulling for him. Good luck,
Max and go Utes!!
I feel terrible for his wife and kids. This would be incredibly tough to endure
and they certainly don't deserve any of this pain.
Thank you to all the ute fans for the classy comments. I can easily see how they
would be tempted to point fingers at him, especially after what he said 5 years
ago.Thanks for having sympathy for him and also realizing that his
actions don't say anything about BYU as a whole. Even though BYU holds
themselves to a high standard, all of us make mistakes, some more serious than
others.I hope Max can turn his life around.
Won't pile on here. Football is a lot of fun and our rivalry is heated and
intense--but this is much too important for any Max hater to be getting jollies
and feeling good about themselves base on the mistakes of a player they dislike.
I've messed up a lot of times myself and so has everyone else. Never having
been in the spotlight, most of us have never earned the scorn that this player
received and our bad decisions probably went mostly unnoticed. He's a guy
who made a poor decision. Big deal. Let's move on. I wish him all the best
in getting his life straightened out. And it can be straightened out. Good luck
to you, Max Hall. I also wish to thank my fellow Ute fans who showed real
compassion and restraint here. Good on you.
I am saddened a great deal by this but we all make mistakes. Max needs all the
support he can get, I hope he can get the help he needs and get his life back on
track. Thoughts and prayers to him and his family
I've studied how drugs like cocaine and those similar effect the brain. I
know how powerful these addictions can be and how that can drive behavior.
People get addicted and then find themselves doing things they though
unimaginable in order to fuel that addiction. Even though I know how this works
it never ceases to amaze me just how powerfully drugs like this can alter a
human being. I sincerely hope that Mr. Hall can get into some effective rehab
and overcome the addiction. I would hate to see him get any jail time for this;
jail time is not rehab and helps no one. It doesn't help the addict and as
a result doesn't help society. I also hope others see what drugs have done
to him and choose not try them.
My opinion about Max Hall hasn't changed. Only his future behavior could do
Hope he pulls through. Glad to see when it matters, when it is about life, BYU
and Utah fans can be on the same page. I don't know that this has anything
to do with his situation and I don't mean to speculate about him
personally, but as one who prescribes narcotic pain meds on a regular basis, I
always worry about athletes getting hooked on those, and possibly moving on to
other drugs. This may be a blessing, as often it takes hitting rock
bottom to be able to pull out of addiction. If this is his rock bottom, much
better to hit it at 28 than at 45. He is young and can still turn things
around. We are pulling for you Max.
Coming from a big Utah fan, I hope Max can overcome this low point in his life.
I feel especially bad for his family. It would be great to see Max use his
competitive spirit to rally and change his life around, and that his family will
be strengthened overall.
We have a lot of fun on these boards but not today.Good luck to Max
and his family. I hope that he gets the help that he needs.
Glad to see all the classy comments by Ute fans here for Max. This isn't a
sports story - it's a human story. When you see any of these young men in
street clothes it's hard to remember our partisan feelings. His face seems
so sad and I can only imagine the personal pain this young man has endured. Now
that it's out in the open, I hope we call can extend a hand of friendship
and forgiveness and help him make the climb back.
So Y and U fans can agree on something. We all hate the effects of drug
I hope he gets his life turned around. Didn't like him or his comments as
a player but wouldn't wish this on anyone. Good luck Max, I hope you get
through this ordeal and get your life back on track.
Just sitting here in my own thoughts and perceptions, reflecting on the past
several years of a rivalry that used to be heated but fun and entertaining under
the leadership of two of the greatest football coaches in Utah/BYU history,
namely, Ron McBride and LaVell Edwards. Then came Urban Meyer, a
good coach that helped Utah turn a corner, and Max Hall a real leader and good
player but in the process, both of them, in their own way, turned the rivalry
into a bitter and hate fueled war. Ron, LaVell, Urban and Max have
all moved on. Utah and BYU are headed in significantly different paths. The
Rivalry has taken a 2 year sabbatical and contrary to my feelings two hours ago,
it's a good thing.All around classy comments here today,
Thanks! My dad was a man of great one liners and the one most
poignant to me tonight is; "People are more important than things".
From me, no more hard feelings for Urban Meyer and best wishes to Max Hall and
his family. Let's all make the rivalry fun again with chips and
"My opinion about Max Hall hasn't changed. Only his future behavior
could do that." Amen, and amen.This is pretty much
in character for Mr. Hall.
Max Hall was finally wrong.
I've got to say, I'm genuinely warmed by the well wished of Ute Fans
here. I'm glad to see this strategic story transcending a rivalry and
seeing the worth of a human soul. Well done.
It's not his "arrogant attitude" that got him here--it's a
former painkiller addiction from accidents unrelated to football that have crept
back into his life. Addictions are crazy hard to get over, even years later.
Don't make personal judgments without knowing some history.
Before we all get too excited about how all the comments are so positive let us
remember that the D- News is filtering out all the negative ones. Trust me. I
know some Ute fans who are already designing a new t-shirt slogan for this.
Haters are still there. We are only seeing the select few comments that are
While the two situations aren't even in close relation, I don't
remember the high road being taken by so many when the rival' team's
quarterback was cited for underage drinking. Ironic, now that those accused of
being classless by the very one, have chosen to display some, at a time when he
badly needs it..
Did not want to tell my wife the news, she is non LDS but a big BYU fan.Bronco owes is career to Max and his quarterback play for those three yearsand 30 wins. He beat Utah twice. Hope Max can get some help, football is a
toughlife when you almost make it. Hope he can get some help, the stealing
part is weird.Thin I'll go on Youtube and watch some Max highlights
and those Hitler videos.He was a tough feisty player. Good Luck.
Wow, I expected to get on here and read a lot of terrible things but I'm
surprised and glad to see that the majority of people are taking the high road.
I am ashamed at myself for assuming the worst. Bravo Ute fans. Hope he can get
his life straightened out. (And for the record, Max Hall lost a lot of respect
from a lot of BYU fans including myself when he made those comments years ago)
First I hope Max Hall can overcome this addiction. Real life means so much more
than football. I think it is fair to point out that BYU's program has
problems just like any other. It is no disrespect to Max to ask BYU fans to
reflect on this point. We are all fallible.
Prayers for Max and family.
I have always been a huge Max Hall fan... I like his enthusiasm for the game,
his focus and his ability to overcome the odds... I use to travel a lot and as a
result I never purchased the NFL TV package, but I can remember clearly
following the Cardinal games that he started as an undrafted QB on my laptop
(play by play) from my hotel room... I don't feel betrayed by this... Like
everyone else, I just feel sad for him... I pray that his family will rally
around him and help him through this very tough time in his life...We have all had dragons that we have had to face off with at some point in our
lives... I have always felt that the measure of a man is not whether he gets
knocked down but whether he has the constitution to get back up again. Max is a
fighter and he will beat this and he will achieve success in his life. He did it
on the football field even though he didn't have the ideal body and skill
set and he will do it in dealing with this issue.
Jack of trades, I'm sure the D News filters out some of the negative
comments and thank goodness most of what we are seeing is positive...and it is
genuine. Shouldn't there be a lesson in that? it is so easy to
paint with the broad brush "all Ute fans" or conversely when Ute fans do
the same when they say "all Cougar fans." Problem is, it
isn't reality. Most Cougar fans I know are highly decent and respectful
people. Same with most of my Ute friends. There are always exceptions and
I'm embarrassed for either school when a stupid football game brings out
the worst in people. Most of us on these boards are friends with people on both
sides of the rivalry and have respectful and even playful banter about it. Read the comments and just take them for what they are. Other Cougar
fans have been complimentary and very classy in seeing an effort to put aside
the rivalry in this situation. Bravo to all the great posters
taking the high road on this topic!
Yes, this may just help him make a turn around but darn it he was coaching
my grandson football team. What a great example he is for the boysand what
a let down. Why was he no longer an assistant coach for BYU andwhy was he
cut from his last team. Makes ya wonder how long this has been an issue for this
I remember going to a fireside in South Jordan at our Stake Center with Max
& Austin Collie and their wives (each had only one... gotta love the English
language! :) They were so positive and full of hope for the future. I remember
thinking what a great future these two beautiful young talented couples had and
what good they could do. I still feel that is the case. You think the BYU Utah
game was his toughest challenge? Apparently not. This drug addiction will be his
greatest challenge. Praying he and his family is up to it because football is
just that fun thing - but it is still just a game. This is no game. This is
real life. And sometimes life just plain sucks. it is the biggest battle he will
ever fight. So sad he is where he is in his life. But I am actually glad he was
caught as it is often the only way that "rock bottom" can be reached and
help can begin.
Say it ain't so, Max! I feel his family's pain and wish them the
best. Recovery is never a sure or easy road. I hope Max has the fortitude and
support to successfully kick his dependency.
In the picture I see a man that will reach back to the many that will reach out
to him. In the end I see him teaching and inspiring others. The best to him and
his loved ones.
Max another Ute fan here, hoping the best for you and your family!
@G-Day-M8You are either betraying your youth or you have selective
amnesia, there is no good natured rivalry with byu in this state. USU, ahh
tequila days, before the y game and there is no explaination about the Utes.
Proverbs 16:18 describe Max Hall perfectly. Now that he has shown
us his true character let's see how he handles his future. I wish his
Excellent post, KimmyP.
Nice comments here-if you read the Trib, they are having a field-day with this!
Whatever the reason, whether it's filtering or just people who are being
kind, I appreciate the comments.
Addiction is bad. No matter what kind.Hope he and his family make it
through this ordeal.
Say your prayers for him. We have a family member who suffers from prescription
drug addiction. It's an ugly thing, way more complex than it seems. Those
of you harrumphing Wilber be touched by this through yourself, a family member
or a friend. It's frustrating and very sad. Read the lds addiction recovery
manual if you want some good lessons on the atonement
Good luck rehabbing. Wish you nothing but the best for you and your family.
Prayers are with you.
It's good to see so many feel sadness for what is Max Hall's life at
this point. The encouragement to overcome has been a consistent theme as well. I
hope we all can remember that approach for anyone who uses drugs and has
struggles of all kinds. We are all sinners. All drug users have a story relative
to what brought them to that dangerous lifestyle (football pain, abuse,
depression ect...). We are accountable for our decisions but anyone who thinks
they are worthy to condemn another is committing a great sin. Making a personal
judgement is not the same as being judgmental. We are expected to choose/judge
our environments, our friends, our lifestyle ect.... But if we become judgmental
to where we judge/condemn those in the other lifestyle or environment then that
is where we are not worthy to do so.
I'm betting Max can turn 100% of his ultra competitive temperament toward
beating this terrible situation he finds himself in.My prayers are
with Max and his family. Good luck Max, we're all in your corner.
In general, society hails the hero, especially prelevalant in sports. From
young boys through high school and into college. Young men get a taste of the
glory and develop a willingness to do anything to stay on the field and realize
a dream we have helped perpetuate. Easy to get meds sometimes even pushed into
these young gladiators, just to keep them in the game. I suspect there are
untold thousands who have become dependent on pain killers who eventually turn
to the easier to get street drugs to keep life from getting too far out of
control. We are all vulnerable and I dearly hope this turns this young man
around for good. Thanks for the memories.
Sad story. Best of luck to you and your family Max. I truly hope you can beat
Unfortunately, the more you talk about how good you are the more people will
take joy in your fall. I hope Max will get professional medical
help and save his family.
It is nice to see a lot of civility here today. I was in shock when I first saw
this on twitter today. Shocking. Good luck Max!
My prayers and best wishes go to Max Hall and his family.I had a
brother-in-law that was introduced to drugs at age fourteen. For thirty years
we endured the pain of watching him self-destructing. Four years ago he kicked
the habit, and we were thrilled. Unfortunately, at some time in the past he had
shared needles, and contracted HIV. Last year we lost him, at the age of 47,
to pneumonia, that he had no ability to fight. If anyone thinks that
the Max Hall story is funny, may I suggest that they sit down with families like
ours, who have lost loved ones to drugs. This man needs help, not ridicule.
Max I wish you the best. Get cleaned up and soon you will be able help young
people with your experience. This is another Ute fan who takes no joy in your
current hard times. You can do this. Get better soon. Godspeed Max Hall.
This is a tough story. You know something is amiss in his life when his first
concern about being arrested is for his job, not for his wife and children. It
is also strange that he was only shoplifting small, almost useless items. (What
was he going to do with cell phone cases and chargers?) It is like there was
just some compulsion to do that or something. Probably the effects from the
drug. Weird.I think the interviewed former linebacker, Stevenson, is
correct in this. I hope the best for Hall and for his devastated family.
The numerous readers speaking up on Max Hall's behalf are correct, now is
not the time to point fingers or kick the man when he is down. As I read these
comments though I can't help but ask myself whether or not all of us are
drawing the correct lessons from all of this. In my opinion we are more than
willing to give Max Hall the benefit of the doubt because he is one of our own.
I can't help but wonder though, if Max Hall were a young black man caught
doing the same thing, just interested would any of us be in helping him seek
help? How many lives do we destroy every single day when young men not from our
communities are locked up without mercy for non violent drug offenses? Turning the other cheek requires that we not only give young men from
our own community a second chance, it also requires that we give young men from
other communities a second chance as well. In my mind the story of Max Hall is
really a story of unequal justice in the United States.
Can I be a contrarian here please?I too wish him well, but hope he gets
punished to the fullest extent of the law.Drugs, stolen
merchandise,...c'mon.Just because he went to BYU gets him exactly
ZERO favorable treatment.
The article mentions that the drug charge is usually a felony. Now, who thinks
that is a good idea? Who thinks Max would be better off behind bars? I
hope Max gets the help that he needs, but not in a prison. I hope this raises
questions in people's minds about how we treat addictions. People need
help, not prison. (From a Ute fan)
Very Classy Comments by Utah Fans. I hope he gets some feedback about their
comments and he realizes just who the vast majority of Utah Fans really are.
Most importantly I hope he gets this thing resolved not only for him but
especially for his family!
Hopefully this will be a wake up call to change his life and be the best person
he can be. Experience has taught me that when a person is caught stealing, it
isn't the first time they've done it - just the first time they were
caught. Being caught give a person an opportunity to shape up and hopefully
that is what he does. Life goes by way to quickly to do things that bring
sadness into our lives and the lives of others.
FatherofFourYou need to set me right, he was arrested in Gilbert,
Arizona why would the State of Utah have anything to do with the case. Please
fill me in, I am confused.
Shocked! Parents, Grandparents, churches and schools, all need to
explain the consequences of drugs and the impact on society and the family. BYU
probably has the highest standards of any school in the nation with regards to
their students and student/athletes. Mandatory classes for freshmen on the
complete impact of drugs on the person, family, friends and society, should be
in all schools and colleges. The LDS Church should have more firesides for
youth, with experts and former addicts telling their stories; Max could help
with this and being honor back to himself and his family. Nancy Reagan was
ridiculed, but right: Kids must learn to, "Just say, No!," to drugs.Feel sorry for Max's family and hope his family and friends can
forgive him and gather around and give him their full support to complete
rehabilitation.From a red blooded Ute Fan
UCLA grad and Ute fan wishing Max and his family the very best. Please take
advantage of the resources available to get past your drug dependence. Good Luck
Please keep in mind your sympathy and empathy for Max Hall the next time you
feel like stating that a young black man deserves to be shot because he
shoplifted and/or deserves to be shot or in jail for many years because he used
" Time has a way of exposing you or promoting you "
Never a big fan of Hall even when he was signed by my hometown Cardinals, and I
love to hate the Y. But I hate more seeing this development and knowing the pain
it is causing him and his family. I don't wish it on anyone. In the scheme
of things, the offenses he's accused of are not catastrophic and he'll
get past them. Here's one Cougar hater who's pulling for Hall.
Nice move putting on the BYU shirt for a multi-store shoplifting spree. The NFL
and CFL team shirts must have been dirty.
Here's another Ute fan hoping Max can get past this, learn from the
experience, and be a better man as a result.
Even in the rivalry game if someone is injured, we go silent and applaud when
they are ok, drug addiction kills far more dads, sons, and husbands than any
sports injury by a long shot..drugs leave a wake of pure destruction. this man
has a wife an kids.... I hope the best for him an his family.. GO UTES!!!!
I am a professor at the U. of U. and did not appreciate Max Hall's comments
about us-- I agree that this is the time to stop the Utah-BYU trash talk and
empathize with Max and his family. It is true we do not have all the facts,
but the scourge of drugs is upon us and Max has succumbed, it seems. I hope he
gets the help he needs and that he can overcome this whole discouraging time of
his life. Our thoughts and best wishes are with him.
I believe a big part of Max's problem is he spent his entire life planning
to be a professional football player. His parents, his coaches, his friends -
all no doubt encouraged him in that belief. When he discovered he wasn't
good enough, he lost his self worth and had no clue what to do with his life.Parents and coaches, teach your children that the chances of them
becoming a professional athlete (no matter how good they are) are remote at
best. Everyone should have a Plan B. No child should grow up with his belief
as to his worth as a person tied up in how well he can throw a football.
I hope and wish the Hall family the best under very tough circumstances...as a
Cougar fan I tip my hat to a lot of classy and supportive Ute fans!
Several comments along the way here about it being too bad he is wearing a BYU
t-shirt in his mug shot....not at all. It needs to be taken as a reminder that
addiction cuts across all ethnic, economic and religious groups. No one is
immune. As soon as we start to believe that "our" group is immune, watch
out for the addicted and the larcenous to take advantage of our gullibility.
Fraudsters are out there in business suits AND BYU t-shirts.
While not a BYU graduate, I've come to applaud its honor code. If you never
try the stuff, you'll never get addicted. I was addicted to coffee, believe
it or not, and it was pretty hard to shake a 20 cup per day habit. So if the
honor code helps BYU students through these temptations, it is a good thing. I
saw fellow students at UW during the 60s become addicted to "uppers" and
"downers" and having difficulties with LSD. Now its cocaine, heroin, and
designer drugs like crystal meth. Millions of our kids are trying those things,
as kids do, and pow! They're goners. I went to a funeral a couple of years
ago for a kid I watched grow up. He was from a good LDS family, but tried it and
was lost.I hope Max Hall can be one of the 5% who recover from these
addictions. I hope his home ward and family can help him through this.
I don't understand."I'm really sorry, I'll pay
for the stuff."If he had the money to pay for it in the first
place, why steal it?"If I get arrested, I'll get fired.
I've never done this before,"Sounds like he was sorry he
was such a newbie thief and got caught. Can his players really respect him after
this? I don't think they have a choice but to fire him."A
lot of the guys really rely on the drugs to get through a long season, and then
when the season ends or especially when your career ends, there's nobody
really there to help you deal with that issue anymore".What? We
have a subculture of drugged up athletes? What about family, friends and Church
leaders? Where are they?
southmtnman,Let me try to explain what everbody here except maybe
you don't understand...it's called mental illness. If you don't
understand Max's thought processes, just be grateful...but it doesn't
give you license to judge. Just stop it. STOP IT.You think you
know, but you obviously don't know.
If he could pay for the stuff after his arrest (or before since he didn't
want to get arrested) why couldn't he just pay for them in the first place.
I'll never understand stealing. It never makes sense to me.
Addiction is not a crime it is a sickness, a disease. Would that all those who
read this comment have the same compassion for all the other addicts in our
society that pack our penal institutions. "I've never done this before
" is the first thing an addict will claim. Hall's crime is thievery,
As a thorough Ute fan, I see the irony here but don't rejoice in it. I hope
this young man rises to the challenge and re-makes his life. I'm sorry for
his family and wish them well.
I have been a Max Hall fan, and I continue to be a Max Hall Fan!!! He knows, and
he will DO THE RIGHT THING!!! Get help for the drugs, and take care of this
behavior. I feel bad anytime this sort of thing happens no matter who it is.
Multiple mistakes make it worse, Make the positive step and GET HELP!!! We
should all be Max Hall Fans now and in his future.
This is heartbreaking. I'm no Max Hall fan, but here's another Ute fan
wishing him the best.
So why is it BYU fans - most of whom are LDS - are all singing the praises
of Max Hall and wishing him the best to get the help he needs...But
Will turn right around and demand that ALL drug users must go to
jail, and be persecuted to the full extend of the law?Double
Standard hypocrasy?And what did Jesus say about hypocrites?Try showing and showering that same sort of sympathy and courtesy to OTHERS
who may have a drug problem...
Best Wishes in pulling it together Max. The people you love, and who love you
want to see you succeed.