Liberal Ted - Spare us the persecution complex. Until you're forced to
learn Spanish and all corporations, government institutions, educational
facilities, social constructs, religious influence, etc, etc... are run by a
race other than the one currently dominated by the white male and multiple laws
are passed to subvert your ability to make a living in this nation then your
rant is inane and misplaced. BYUalum - Yes, blame the gays and the
immigrants; classic scapegoating. BTW: when we liberals "accept" LGBTQ
for who they are, that doesn't magically produce more gays out of thin air.
Further, you should spent some time reviewing the state-by-state marriage data.
Though it's not a drastic difference, on the whole, the states that
don't allow SSM will typically have more divorce, more children out of
wedlock, etc.... So, sounds like the way to strengthen hetero marriage is to
allow SSM and do away with the implicit theocratic machinations present in
conservative state politics.
Stalwart Sentinel - Spare us the lack of and ability to look ahead. Spare us
the left winged rhetoric that does not want to do anything to correct or fix a
problem before it is too late to gain a few votes and then go back in the ground
to figure out another way to manipulate society to think they are for them when
ultimately they are only out for themselves and a congressional pension.Also with regards to a comment to BYUalum. The comment is argumentative
and does not coinside with what BYU alum said. Nobody said more gays are
produced out of thin air. What was said is they cannot produce together, which
the can't, unless you know of some unknown science phenomenon. And the
borders are in issue with latino illegals crossing and being able to stay.Ultimately, the problem is liberals who want progression, then complain
about the problems it causes and blame the other side, accuse them of being
racist, etc. You have to plan, then act. You can't take action and then
try to get the other side to come up with a plan to fix your problem. Make
sense? Yeah it does!
Let me add that I may find it pejorative to be called "White."
"White" implies "evil," as in colorless and uninteresting! So, I may be very offended if, when referring to me, I'm not
described as (you'll need a 3"X5" card to remember this, I'm
sure):English-Irish-Scot-Irish--Scottish of the
Matheson-Clan--Norwegian Viking of the Warband of Thorfinn the
Skull-Splitter--Saxon-German--Cherokee of the Chickamauga Band--AMERICAN!!! (These are my actual ancestors, and I promise to have a public
nuclear-conniption if they are not acknowledged!! ;-) ) ... and remember,
I'm not just any old funky Cherokee, Viking or Scot -- the Clan and Band
matter too (especially in Utah!). ** Matheson, or Clan
"McMathan" means "Son of the Bear." -- probably going back to
Clan of the Cave Bear or some such.
As we continue to move forward towards a beautiful carmel colored human race.Yes progress is a good thing, even if it means, I'm no longer part of the
majority.Utah is doing it's fair share to be fruitful and multiply,
but now that interracial marriage is acceptable (progress) you aren't
getting that pure white race. This is a good thing, as a pure race doesn't
exist anyway and those who believe it does, generally abuse the idea.Guess I'm not afraid of the future.Then again I don't
listen to "Fear Radio" daily.
Re 'liberal ted'The reason for affirmative action for
certain minorities isn't because they are minorities. But because of past
and in some cases ongoing discrimination.
'Multi Culturalism' is and has been a trojan horse attack on America
designed to weaken then sabotage the pillars of Traditional America. 'E
Pluribus Unum' was the original intent, now it's been vandalized by
the negative forces of political correctness to mean 'out of many,
@ Stalwart SentinelSpare me that I have no idea what persecution is.
You don't know me. You don't know my history. Maybe you should get out
more and be a minority in a city. See how you are treated when you are the only
white person in a city, town, country. I've been there. I did learn a
foreign language. I have learned some Spanish. Try ordering food, working with
hotel help, working in a labor job which are dominated with Spanish speaking
people. Some try to speak English. Most aren't interested and joke that
everyone will conform to them one day. Remember it was Spain that raided Latin
America and forced them to learn Spanish.@ Happy Valley Heretic- I
don't fear the future either. I am comfortable learning multiple languages
and enjoy other cultures. I welcome anyone that wants to come here legally. I
welcome anyone that wants to work to provide for their family, and not live off
of welfare. I welcome those that try to learn the culture here. If you
can't tolerate the local culture, then staying in your homeland might be
better for you
This story isn't really that big for me at all.I appreciate
diverse opinions and diversity in schools.I really don't like
how many people try to compartamentalize Americans however into specific groups.
Let's just call each other Americans!That is how it works in
Mexico (which is more diverse than what many people think of). Everyone is
called a Mexican whether they be of pure European or American blood, Mestizo,
Indigenous, or even African.
I know what it feels like to walk into an interview and be told that they have
enough people like me. "Wonder Bread" is a term that is often used. The
thought is a room full of white males, that every single one of them is exactly
the same: same thought, same diet, same skills, same attitude....I feel that
every single white male, white female, black male, black female, Latino, Latina,
Asian, non-Asian, European, African, yellow, purple, pink, orange people are all
different.No one is exactly the same. We all offer something in
diversity.The racists thought that white people can't offer
anything diverse is racism.Some people need to be updated on
history. Most white people have never owned a slave, their parents didn't
own a slave, their parents didn't own a slave. In fact many white people
never had an ancestor that owned a slave, slaughtered native americans etc.
It's time to get over it. Most blacks can't trace their ancestors to
slavery, yet a good number have no problem referencing it as justification to
By the way, my entire family is mixed races. We have many different blends of
race in the family. I don't have a problem with that. My problem is being
judged based on what I look like. To assume because I look white, that I am just
a stereotype white male that listens to talk radio and never finished higher
education much less grade school. People that assume that I hate others because
of my religious belief or my agreement with conservative views etc.What bothers me with the left, is they claim to be the ideal. They preach how
much they accept anyone with any thoughts and are welcoming. To a degree they
are welcoming. I find as soon as you have a thought outside of their little
world, then they turn on the hate and begin labeling others. Perhaps it's
out of fear, ignorance or both. I don't understand why they feel paying
down the national debt is a bad thing. To me that is good, yet the venom that
comes out is beyond me....maybe you can help me understand.
Liberal Ted....they cannot explain it. But others can. Its called hypocrisy.
Keep the border open and pretty soon the headline will say "USA now being
What exactly are non-Hispanic Whites? Are they Portuguese, Italian, or some
other ethnicity? How many ethnicities do they cover and why don't we
recognize where their ancestors came from like we do with the Europeans who came
to the American Continents from Espania (Spain)? When will we learn
to call all citizens of the United States exactly what they are supposed to be
which is Americans? Allowing our Federal Gov't to divide us up by referring
to us according to where our ancestors came several generations back is wrong.
We shouldn't be surprised, since 1976 only 17% of our green cards have gone
to white Europeans. Social engineering is removing the Europeans that created
this great society called America, And giving the fruits of their labor to other
cultures and races.Our fault for letting it happen to the land
created by our ancestors the past 200 years.
relax and remeber our sameness is more important than color or ethnic. there is
only one race the human race and we need to remember that first and always. all
want saftey and security for their families and a possibility of a good future.
this is true for all humans.
So, IF, I read this right.......does that mean that Whites are now the minority?
And, if so, then does that then, give them the right to have their voices heard
above the majority? Just food for thought. As it appears now, tis the
minorities that seem to have the advantage of being taken care of first, and
then, the Whites, who, as it appears now, have the 'majority'. So,
again, does this mean that the White folks then take over having the first
priority after the demographic change? Will such things as.........the English
language then take a back seat to all of those who wish to speak their own
language? Will this country turn into a ..................'separate but
equal' country? Just want to throw that out there.
Remember The Alamo. I think we lost that battle to.
The fruits of liberal leadership.
I think every nation has a right to retain it's heritage and culture. If
this was happening to a third world country, the progressive liberals would be
screaming. The progressive liberals are a much greater threat to our
country than the tea party. I've heard it said that America will never give
up it's land in battle, but the real danger is from within.
I will remake, and transform America.----Barrack Obama 2008 campaign speechWe were warned, and soon we'll join the ranks of other third world
countries.People didn't build America. Someone else did it!
UtahBruinSpare us the run-on sentences. Actually, what was
illogically implied by BYUalum was that LGTBQ acceptance somehow detrimentally
affects the number of children born to straight, white Americans. Certainly,
when my wife and I (both straight and white) discuss family planning, we always
ask ourselves, “what about them gays with their gay marriage and what
not?” Also, your “unknown science phenomenon” is
called surrogacy. Liberal TedI don’t need to know
“your history” to know that we live in a society forged by a single
group of individuals to the benefit of themselves. I also do not need to know
“your history” to state that one political party has dedicated its
entire social platform to maintaining said stranglehold on the rest of the
Nation. It is not surprising that conservatives fear change; it’s in
their nature. Plus, most conservative states are the least educated, least
prosperous in the country. So, I guess they should be afraid because, once the
social structure is neutralized and others are put on a level playing field,
conservatives won’t be able to compete.
Hey Worf -"I will remake, and transform America.----Barrack
Obama 2008 campaign speech"Obama never said that.
"Conservatives" sure do make a lot of stuff up.Do you know
why "Conservatives" lie so much? I think it's because the facts
are hardly ever consistent with their world view.. . . What's
your guess?Hey Utah Bruin -" . . . the problem is
liberals who want progression, then complain about the problems it causes and
blame the other side . . . Make sense?"No, it makes no sense at
all. What does that wild claim have to do with the fact that Whites will be
outnumbered in Public Schools?Apparently I'm missing something.
But English is my native language. I don't speak "Conservative."Hey would someone interpret the Bruin's spiel into English? . . .
@worf: The fruits of left wing liberalism will produce a far better nation than
the nuts of right wing conservatism, hands down!
Hey Liberal Ted -"What bothers me with the left . . . I
don't understand why they feel paying down the national debt is a bad
thing."Confused I see.Liberals have nothing against
paying down the national debt. But the ONLY way you can do that is with REVENUE.
And revenue means TAXATION. Recent history shows that it is
"Conservatives" who have a problem with paying down the national
debt.Your Republican hero Ronald Reagan set a precedent for
non-wartime debt accumulation. Reagan irresponsibly bought votes by lowering
taxes, especially for his rich friends, and he TRIPLED THE DEBT.Clinton responsibly raised taxes, which resulted in four CONSECUTIVE balanced
budgets.GW, is an irresponsible Reaganite, who started TWO wars and
dropped taxes for high earners, more than DOUBLING the debt again. NO President
had ever dropped taxes and engaged in war before. But GW was happy to pass the
cost of his wars down to future generations.What we should be
focusing on now is reducing unnecessary spending, but we need to spend much
MORE to INVEST as a means of making this nation more competitive.We
have to think of the future.
It will be good for all of us who are white to be in the minority. There are
lessons to be learned that we seem to be resistant to understand and embrace.
Jesus loves the little children,All the children of the
world.Red and yellow, black and white,They are precious in His
sight.Jesus loves the little children Of the world.
Astounding racism on this thread. What y'all consider a "problem" I
consider a blessing. Our future will be blessed by increased acceptance and
celebration and even leveraging of the differences among us. The young people
get it. It's the old "conservative" curmudgeons who are alarmed.
Whether your black, brown or white, the laws of prosperity still apply.
Crossing a border into America isn't an entrance into rarified air of food,
housing and healthcare falling freely out of the sky. Putting food on your table
in America is no different than putting food on your table in Mexico City.Prosperity is earned by frugality, industry, and ingenuity. America is
not a guarantee for anybody. The first thing I'd do, is probably learn the
It's about class, not about race. The minorities in my suburban school
district will be just fine; their parents can afford to volunteer and pay for
after-school programs, just like the white kids' parents...
@GaryO - I guess all I can say is read the article, read Stalwart Sentinels,
"left wing" comments and it will make perfect sense. There are many
post, reflective of many things, including other post and the article.@Limp Sentinal - Spare me the rhetoric. And to be honest, I don't care
what you and your wife do. Let's just stay on topic. You can't just
make a comment and then avoid it all together when someone responds back to you.
This is what the Dems do. Make a statement and then when they are called out,
the find some other way to come after you, and then blame you because it
doesn't work.As for the article. I could care less if there is
diversity in schools. I've been there, being one of only two white kids in
the whole school. However, if it is going to dramatically change the way it is
beginning too and in more places. Then the time to act on it is now. Make sure
it is English that is being the lead language and that it conforms that way.
This is changing along with the demographic of race.
You have to read people, read!