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The good, the bad and the most likely: Projecting the 2014 football season for Utah

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  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 26, 2014 10:44 a.m.

    Utah WILL go 7-5 and Coach Christensen and NASCAR are going to save whit's job.

  • agarrett PROVO, UT
    Aug. 26, 2014 10:52 a.m.

    The Utes will finish 6-6?! And just who are these 6 teams Utah is supposed to beat? Idaho State and who else?? I see a 3-win season on the horizon, escaping with wins over Colorado and either Washington St or Fresno State. Possibly 4 wins at best.

  • Sounds right.. Cedar city, UT
    Aug. 26, 2014 11:05 a.m.

    Love the fact how the utes goals this year are to win 6 games and not get everyone fired. Oh how they have fallen with expectations . They sound like a bottom feeder of a bcs conf ex- Kentucky Colorado Iowa st Kansas.
    I hope you love your bcs membership still ute fans even though you can never win over 5 games. Obviously getting into the PAC was great for utah In general but losing all the time has to be frustrating. I'm would rather be an SUU fan and win in a smaller division than be in a bigger league and always lose.

  • shown17 Kearns, UT
    Aug. 26, 2014 11:20 a.m.

    Where exactly is Utah going to get these 7 wins? Its good to believe in your team... but 7 wins? I see 4.. maybe 5 just because Arizona is home game. Maybe 6 but Orgeon state is would just have to totally drop the ball!

    Lets be realistic

  • Sanefan Wellsville, UT
    Aug. 26, 2014 11:33 a.m.

    6 and 6 with a Bowl game is a very generous prediction. My prediction, 5 and 7 at best, probably 4 and 8, but could be as bad as 3 and 9. Too bad they choose to take BYU off their schedule.

  • Whoa Nellie American Fork, UT
    Aug. 26, 2014 11:36 a.m.

    I can almost hear Roseanne Barr warming up her vocal chords.

  • oldman70 Eagle Mountain, UT
    Aug. 26, 2014 11:46 a.m.

    Whatever happens this year, the Utes will not be bottom feeders of the PAC 12. They are likely to move to a middle of the pack team with a great team every four or five years that will challenge for the PAC title. While we fans don't have a lot of patience, the coaches and players will (regardless about changes in players and possible changes in coaches). I personally hope that it is Coach Whittingham and his staff - and therefore there needs to be a 6-6 or better season. While there is only one potential blow-out, there are five or six teams that are beatable, especially if the Utes get a chance to build confidence. Obviously, keeping healthy is huge.

  • Balan South Jordan, Utah
    Aug. 26, 2014 12:11 p.m.

    Challenge for a PAC title every 4 four or five years???

    I'll believe it when I see it - and it will clearly carry more weight when the prognostications come from someone outside of the Utah fold. For fans to articulate that Utah will be a contender for a PAC 12 championship 20 - 25% of the time is hilarious!

    The sad thing is that I believe that a majority of the Utah fan base actually believes this.

  • Uncle Rico Sandy, UT
    Aug. 26, 2014 12:31 p.m.

    Utah will go 3-9, I just cant see them any better than that, especially without a solid QB
    Whit will be gone
    Chris B will disappear from posts after blowout losses, only to chime in when recovered.

  • JonA Ogden, UT
    Aug. 26, 2014 12:38 p.m.

    Sounds Right says, "I'm would rather be an SUU fan and win in a smaller division than be in a bigger league and always lose"

    That's a terrible mentality that people with low self esteem usually employ. Instead of reaching for the stars, they aim for the roof. Being a big fish in a small pond is something several people need to feel validated. But those with self confidence are willing to try to reach their potential, knowing there's a great chance at failure, but also learning from that failure along the way.

    But as a football fan, I'd rather have a team go 5-7, but play great teams week-in-week-out, than watch a team blowout lesser opponents every week. Utah has this scenario and BYU is trying to get it (and getting closer each year as they add quality opponents to the schedule). Both Utah and BYU fans would rather watch ranked opponents come in and watch our guys give the national ranked teams our best shot, than watch clearly inferior opponents get worked.

  • taylormade1 Springville, UT
    Aug. 26, 2014 1:18 p.m.

    The NASCAR will erupt in flames and will have u fans calling for another 6 offensive coaches for next year !

  • JP82 riverton, UT
    Aug. 26, 2014 2:21 p.m.

    For the most part, these comments are not surprising from the DesNews, BYU homer newspaper...I can't take any stock in a UTES article on this site. Then you get all the bitter BYU fans with their "Ute-Hater" responses. I would rather go 5-7 on an awesome schedule, than go 8-4 and pay to watch that garbage bunch of teams that is frequenting LES the last few years. Utes will win at least 6 this year (Idaho St.; Fresno; WSU; OSU; Arizona; Colorado). BYU will lose at U-Conn Friday and end up with another lack-luster 8-4 record. GO UTES!

  • MyPerspective Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 26, 2014 2:22 p.m.

    JonA
    Ogden, UT

    "But as a football fan, I'd rather have a team go 5-7, but play great teams week-in-week-out, than watch a team blowout lesser opponents every week. Utah has this scenario and BYU is trying to get it..."

    You offer an interesting perspective on reasons for playing top competition. However, byu fans don't have an appetite for losing games and would rather play a string of cupcakes to proclaim themselves best in the nation than face elite competition. byu is stuck right where it should be.

    Personally, I thoroughly enjoy the groveling of byu fans attempting to get what Utah has. LOL!

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Aug. 26, 2014 2:43 p.m.

    I would be happy with 6-8 wins considering the brutal schedule. Time for the Utes to rise up.

    Go Utah!

  • 965 Sandy, UT
    Aug. 26, 2014 2:47 p.m.

    blah blah blah cougars, it's hilarious that you try and poke fun at our record when we've stomped your program for the last decade. Stop trying to feed off our Utes, you're just lucky you don't have us on the schedule this year to give us an extra win on our record.

    You're drinking some very strong kool-aid if you think your team has an even remote possibility to make the playoffs or have a heisman finalist. That is some crazy high optimism right there. We have the #1 rated toughest schedule in the NATION. If we have 7 or 8 wins that would be more impressive than a BYU undefeated season.

    But that won't happen, because you will drop a game to Texas, UCF, and probably Utah State.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    Aug. 26, 2014 2:47 p.m.

    Sounds right..

    "I'm would rather be an SUU fan and win in a smaller division than be in a bigger league and always lose."

    That sounds about right for person who lives in Cedar City. Think small, stay small. You can't be big unless you think big.

    Go Utes!!

  • shown17 Kearns, UT
    Aug. 26, 2014 2:57 p.m.

    Your right winning 7-8 games with the hardest schedule in the nation would be more impressive than BYU going undefeated..... But! thats not going to happen so have fun watching BYU and USU in the post season.

  • PAC12Fan South Jordan, UT
    Aug. 26, 2014 2:59 p.m.

    Utah was not blown out by anyone in the PAC 12 last year. Our defense will keep us in all games. Our offense has not shown an ability to score on a consistent basis. We are told that our offensive line is a strength this year. Our QB's have been less than average and our receivers have tipped way too many balls in the air. I am confident that our top three QB's will be better than average this year. Our receivers are touted as speedy and talented but we will see. Dres is really good in the open field. He is less than average over the middle where he hears footsteps and bails on the play way too many times, thus tipped balls.

    BYU fans need to stop fooling themselves. All real BYU fans would trade places with Utah in a heartbeat. I hope BYU gets the chance to be humbled in the Big 12 where their natural travel partner will be Nebraska.

    Humble pie still tastes good and every game will be sold out again for the 5th straight year.

    Even a bad Pac 12 Utah is better than a good Independent BYU.

  • KYUte Louisville, KY
    Aug. 26, 2014 2:59 p.m.

    The Utes are moving forward getting better and better along with the PAC12.
    Utah will go anywhere between 6-6 to 8-4 this season dependent upon injuries.

    Allow me to address the comments about W-L records between Utah and BYU with a metaphor.

    BYU fan "BYU can bench press 135 lbs. 8 times. Utah can only bench press 315 lbs. 5 times!"

    Apples to Oranges. Major League to Minor League. The only true comparisons that can be made since we don't play in the same conference any more are head to head and common opponents, of which Utah clearly wins.

    Thank you and GO UTES!!

  • mufasta American Fork, UT
    Aug. 26, 2014 3:01 p.m.

    I agree with Chris B. I think they can go 6-6 or 7-5. Whit should keep his job. Im keeping my fingers crossed.

  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    Aug. 26, 2014 3:06 p.m.

    The comments are amusing. This article isn't about BYU. Utah will have a rough time hitting 5 wins and they better not have a let down vs Idaho State. I feel bad for the Utes, it's hard to keep losing and losing and losing.

  • taylormade1 Springville, UT
    Aug. 26, 2014 3:10 p.m.

    Lets see now, the Y goes to a post season bowl game 4 yrs. in a row (or for that matter every year) and the u goes to a bowl game lets see, 0 yrs in a row and counting. Apples and oranges are the difference here.However, the u does play the tougher schedule that no one will even care about at the end of the year if they continue to lose games.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Aug. 26, 2014 3:11 p.m.

    I think the U will break out this year and finish 8-4. Wilson is a good QB and good programs usually rebound after bad seasons.

  • souptwins Lindon, UT
    Aug. 26, 2014 3:17 p.m.

    I'd love to see Utah go bowling this year and see Whitt keep his job. It does me no harm whatsoever to wish them well. Then, reality sets in and I try to find 6 wins on their schedule and it's a tough sell. Good luck, Utes! Hope you get there.

  • IndeMak South Jordan, UT
    Aug. 26, 2014 3:19 p.m.

    Thursday can't arrive fast enough.

    I have been spending less time on this board the past few months as I don't travel as much as I used to travel.

    As some of my family members cheer for BYU and have tickets to the games, he started talking smack about wins and losses. He paid the same amount (within 5%) for his tickets that I did this year. I must have not paid a lot of attention but I am looking at his tickets and noticed there are not good home games in Provo this year.

    Houston Cougars or Idaho State?
    Virginia or Fresno State?
    Utah State or Washington State?
    Nevada or USC?
    UNLV or Oregon?
    Savannah State or Arizona?

    Is anyone in Provo happy to pay the same amount to bring in such high quality opponents? Your 2015 schedule at home is even worse. Boise is only good opponent at home next year.

    Add Michigan and Utah State next year to Utah's schedule with 7 home games in 2015. Whoop, whoop. Time to talk stadium expansion. The fan base is growing in Utah.

  • Objectified Richfield, UT
    Aug. 26, 2014 3:50 p.m.

    @ MyPerspective:

    Right... "BYU wants what Utah has"...
    - a losing record for years on end,
    - no bowl games for multiple years and counting,
    - not a single vote in any preseason poll.

    What is there not to want with those impressive credentials? The true LOL is that someone is even naive enough to think such a thing, let alone suggest it.

    It's actually Utah who is stuck right where is should be (in a losing rut) and going nowhere fast.

    @ PAC12Fan:

    You obviously don't know a single true BYU fan if you think even one would trade places with Utah. As to why, please see my comment above to MyPerspective. I'm still trying to decide if you were actually serious when making such a ridiculous statement.

    @ JonA and VegasUte:

    Utah is currently finding out what it's like to be a little fish in a big pond. They are being eaten alive by the same big boys that they love trying to associate themselves with.

    In return, the actual big boys keep laughing at them while patting them on the head when handing them their annual cellar-dweller trophy at the end of each season.

  • IrieUte west valley, UT
    Aug. 26, 2014 4:12 p.m.

    Typical haters on patrol.

    It's game week people, get excited!

    Go Utes-

  • motorbike Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Aug. 26, 2014 4:22 p.m.

    taylormade1,

    "Lets see now, the Y goes to a post season bowl game 4 yrs. in a row (or for that matter every year) and the u goes to a bowl game lets see, 0 yrs in a row and counting."

    You Coug fans love to brag about bowl games yet Whittingham has still won more bowl games than Bronco. So perhaps you ought to clarify for us Ute fans exactly what's most important to you, getting to a bowl game or winning that bowl game.

  • IRS Agent PROVO, UT
    Aug. 26, 2014 4:35 p.m.

    @KYUte

    Louisville, KY

    "The Utes are moving forward getting better and better along with the PAC12.
    Utah will go anywhere between 6-6 to 8-4 this season dependent upon injuries."

    How do you figure? Look at their conference record (dropping every year since joining the league). Reality isn't relative. Does the offer an online statistics class?

    @965
    Sandy,UT

    "We have the #1 rated toughest schedule in the NATION."

    Not true. Look at the latest College football power rankings. BYU actually has a tougher ranked schedule that several of the top 20 teams. But, again, don't let reality block the crimson view.

    @MyPerspective
    Salt Lake City,UT

    "However, byu fans don't have an appetite for losing games and would rather play a string of cupcakes to proclaim themselves best in the nation than face elite competition. byu is stuck right where it should be."

    And yet somehow, at the end of the year, they are regularly ranked as one of the top 25 teams in the country by the people that actually know something about college football and talent, the coaches. There's a whole big world out there to see, once you take off the crimson colored goggles.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 26, 2014 5:23 p.m.

    @ Objectified

    Bronco himself spent half the off-season begging to be included as a P5 school. It makes sense. Being in a P5 conf. comes with Better schedules, better bowl tie-ins, security of being "in" while the landscape of CFB changes, and not to mention a huge revenue boost. You would be crazy to not switch places with Utah.

  • motorbike Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Aug. 26, 2014 5:43 p.m.

    IRS Agent,

    "And yet somehow, at the end of the year, they (BYU) are regularly ranked as one of the top 25 teams in the country..."

    Yes it is indeed true that a top 25 ranking can be achieved with a glossy record obtained by beating up on a cupcake schedule. And if that impresses you then you're certainly rooting for the right team.

  • GoRed WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    Aug. 26, 2014 6:08 p.m.

    Utah will win 8 games this year, despite the very difficult schedule (5 teams ranked in the top 25). This will be because of the stability and leadership of the two main quarterbacks. And our 8 victories will be much more impressive than BYU's 9-3 or 10-2 over very mediocre competition. I say this only in preparation for the BYU fans' trash talking that will come at the end of the season for having won a game or two more than Utah.

    If BYU played Utah's schedule this year, they would be lucky to get 3 wins. Most likely they would go 2-10.

  • IRS Agent PROVO, UT
    Aug. 26, 2014 6:17 p.m.

    @Motorbike

    But that top 25 ranking is coming from the COACHES. They understand the game better than anyone, and aren't going to reward a team that hasn't earned their respect, regardless of their opponents. They know the game and what is required to win.

    Trust me, the coaches aren't going to be impressed with by a team's record only. Especially if they felt like it was achieved against inferior talent. That would only serve to negate their own team's success. If he gives credit for a weak schedule and glossy record, it minimalizes his team's wins (especially against strong opponents). If he gives too much credit for "quality" losses, it minimalizes his own victories, because a "quality" loss becomes just as good as a win, thus invalidating his own success. The coaches aren't being swayed by weak schedules and glossy records. In fact the coaches poll is probably the best barometer of a teams place in college football.

    A lot of it has to do with how they perceive the team as an opponent. The more concern that team would cause a coach as an opponent, they higher he is going to rank them.

  • PGVikingDad Pleasant Grove, UT
    Aug. 26, 2014 6:21 p.m.

    Time for a serious dose of reality, here: The Utes are in for a looooong haul. UCLA, USC, ASU, Stanford, and Oregon are *loaded* this year; that's why they're all Top 20 teams. That's five losses. Michigan is Michigan. Six losses. Fresno is no gimme. I'll take an 11-2 team over a 5-7 team any day of the week, no matter how you slice it. Seven losses. Idaho State is a scheduled win. That's one win. That leaves Washington State, Oregon State, Arizona, and Colorado. Utah went 1-3 against these teams last year (beat Colorado...barely), and is only 2-1 against Colorado with two narrow victories. I'll grant them a better record against these teams than the last go-round. Two wins, two losses. That's 3-9 and no bowl. Who's your pick for Whit's replacement?

  • taylormade1 Springville, UT
    Aug. 26, 2014 6:57 p.m.

    Motorbike,
    Who said anything about Bronco ? I am talking about BYU football. Rich in tradition with many bowl appearances over the years including many victories . As well as all kinds of national awards over the years ! Make no mistake about it, they have always and will remain the big brother of college football in the state of Utah. Cheers!

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Aug. 26, 2014 7:32 p.m.

    Remember when all Ute fans were laughing at BYU's Thursday and Friday night games?

    Ute fans were saying being in the PAC12 would prevent this kind of scheduling.

    ISU on a Thursday night, opening season... now that's a headliner!

  • Condescending Wonka Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 26, 2014 7:41 p.m.

    Oh geez, the season hasn't even started yet and byu fans are already bored with their team. Probably explains why game day is only 3 days away for byu, yet their fans are all over the Ute comment boards.

    But since all of you who bleed blue are here and actively engaged regarding the most prestigious team in the state, I'll go ahead and answer what seems to all of you to be the most pressing question of the day.

    Utah goes 7-5 with wins over:

    -ISU
    -Fresno
    -Michigan (Much like Bronco, Whit has always had Brady Hoke's number)
    -WSU
    -OSU
    -Arizona
    -Colorado

    Possibly 8-4 with an upset win over a team not listed above.

    As always byu fans, thank you for stopping by (can't say it was a pleasure). And remember, you're welcome back anytime during the season, which we Ute fans will expect quite often, considering that the season hasn't started yet, and byu is already on autopilot.

  • IRS Agent PROVO, UT
    Aug. 26, 2014 7:56 p.m.

    @Chris B

    If you want to comment on and cheer for a real Ute winner, there's a great article on the DNews about a teen gymnast that took the silver in two events at National's and is going to be attending Utah. Probably the best recruit of the year, and their best chance at a guaranteed winner. Mark it down.

    Congrats Makayla! Best of luck during your college career.

  • Rockarolla West Jordan, UT
    Aug. 26, 2014 8:31 p.m.

    This year is a unknown for the Utes. I think they will win 4-5 games this year but they could win up to 8-9. It just depends on who steps up and plays. THe defense is the biggest question mark. They have allot of new bodies out there. If they can play like a usual Coach Whit D then they just may get to that 8-9 win mark. If the defense doesn't play well then it might be the tour for Kyle at the seasons end.
    Offense could have a breakout year if Wilson stays healthy. THat's a big if. It hash't happened before and If he goes down the Utes could be in trouble, although the back ups at qb are better than they have been. At least on paper they are.

    My prediction is a 5 win season. The league is tougher this year than last, and I'm not sure that the utes are any better.

    I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think so.

  • 79Ute Orange County, CA
    Aug. 26, 2014 9:03 p.m.

    The good: last year's uniform design.
    The bad: the new uniform design.
    The most likely: new, even uglier uniform design next year.

  • Utes Fan Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 26, 2014 9:07 p.m.

    Comments from a fan base who has lost 4 straight to Utah and still claims to be the better team are not worth much to me.

    I say Utah wins 6 games and wins a bowl game, for a total of 7 wins. With the brutal schedule they have, that will be very impressive. And I will love every minute of it!

  • ekute Layton, UT
    Aug. 26, 2014 9:23 p.m.

    Objectified,

    bronco wants what Utah has...And he told his interviewer to mark it down. lol.

  • let's roll LEHI, UT
    Aug. 26, 2014 10:11 p.m.

    Best of luck to the Utes this year.

    I wish I could share the optimism about the Ute's prospects in the PAC-12 but the signs don't look good.

    PROS
    The Utes are well coached on defense and Whit is a good head coach. Unfortunately, a losing season this year and they may loose their coach.

    No one views Utah as a rival or circles the Utah game on their calendar, so the Utes still benefit from teams taking them lightly.

    RES is small but noisy and provides a home field advantage.

    CONS
    Recruiting isn't improving. The Utes can't hope to challenge in the conference if their recruiting classes are in the bottom third of the conference. This last year they were in the bottom three.

    If the Utes do win a few games in conference they will loose the stealth factor...it will be much more difficult if and when teams start getting up for the Utah game.

    If the P5 autonomy leads to allowing off-campus income for student athletes, Utah's ability to recruit will be even further crippled compared to others in the conference.

    Again, best of luck to the Utes.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 26, 2014 10:17 p.m.

    @ sammyg

    As opposed to the FIVE weekday games BYU plays this year? The majority being on Friday....

    Glass house, Sammy.

  • CO Ute PARKER, CO
    Aug. 26, 2014 11:52 p.m.

    Don't really care what the Y fans think Utah's record will be this year. Also don't care what some of the homer U fans think either.

    If the O Line plays poorly (again), this will be a long season with 4 wins and a few close games. If the O Line plays well there will be a lot of close games and a bowl game at the end of the year. Defense should be solid (again) barring a number of injuries depleting the ranks. The offense has more weapons at the skill positions and can put up some points if the O Line is decent.

  • Back Talk Federal Way, WA
    Aug. 27, 2014 5:47 a.m.

    no need for all the smack talk. I think Utah is capable and have an excellent chance of getting 6 wins. Upset targets would be Michigan. They will also need to beat Arizona and Oregon State.

    Best case for BYU is a scheduleing agreement with PAC 12 and BIG 12 and stay independant.

  • Sparkley Briefs New York, NY
    Aug. 27, 2014 6:36 a.m.

    My son who is in 4th grade played on a basketball team of 5th and 6th graders. He was a good player on the team, but not a star. A kid in his class made the all-star team playing in the 3rd-4th grade league, and brags about how he is the better player because he is an all-star. When the two are on the court together, the "all-star" is clearly overmatched. When I read BYU fans comments about how great their team is because they will qualify for another 3rd grade league bowl, I can't help but be reminded of the "all-star". My son loved the higher competition and was glad he played up. I'm a Ute fan who looks forward to the tough games this year. Hopefully, BYU can continue to get games with great teams too. Hey now, your an all-star!

  • Provo, Ute Fan St. George, UT
    Aug. 27, 2014 8:37 a.m.

    The cool thing about Football is anything can happen. All of you people that have commented above should know better to doubt a team before the season even starts. Anything can happen, we may not win 1 game or we may win 10,11,12.... Nobody knows until the game is played. Utah has had success in the past but also have not had any success. Coach Whit knows what he is doing and it is part of the transition playing top tier teams every week.

    Go UTES

  • UtahTrojan Park City, UT
    Aug. 27, 2014 9:46 a.m.

    Lets break this down:
    Idaho St - W
    Fresno St - W
    @Michigan - L
    Wash St - L
    @UCLA - L
    @Oregon St - L
    USC - L
    @Ariz St - L
    Oregon - L
    @Stanford - L
    Arizona - L
    @Colo - W

    That is a 3-9 season, lets just for argument sake say they win a game they shouldn't. My prediction is 4-8!
    And the person that thinks they can compete once every 4 or 5 years, that's comical. Just look at the history of Arizona, Wash St, Oregon St, even Arizona St and Washington. They don't get that many opportunities why would Utah?

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 27, 2014 10:44 a.m.

    If Utah doesn't go bowling I wont post on byU articles for a year.

    I made similar promises before the last Utah byU game about Utah winning.

    And the year before

    and the year before

    And the year before.

    Utah WILL go bowling - you can mark that down.

    Go UTES

  • 65TossPowerTrap Salmon, ID
    Aug. 27, 2014 10:50 a.m.

    6-6 sounds terrific for the Kansas of the Pac-12.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    Aug. 27, 2014 10:56 a.m.

    With any luck and good fortune, Utah's opponent tomorrow night will face BYU in a December Bowl Game.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 27, 2014 12:30 p.m.

    @ 65TossPowerTrap

    If BYU and Utah switched schedules, how many games do you think each would win? Honestly...

  • Objectified Richfield, UT
    Aug. 27, 2014 1:09 p.m.

    @ GoRed:

    I would go red too, in the face, to write some of the off-the-wall opinions that you do, and criticizing other programs without using any factual backing whatsoever. That means you have no valid reasons for what you write.

    The people who obviously know college football much better than you, college coaches and national sportswriters, picked BYU significantly higher than Utah for very valid reasons in every preseason poll. As such, BYU would obviously do better than Utah with the same schedule. And so would USU. Utah trailed the pack once again in all the preseason polls.

    That's the reason for having such polls in the first place... to determine how each team would do with the same schedule and then ranking them accordingly. Is it really that difficult to face football reality?

  • Whoa Nellie American Fork, UT
    Aug. 27, 2014 1:24 p.m.

    A very successful season for Utah would be 6 wins. Quite possible. If BYU had their schedule they might come up with 5 wins - 6 would be mind blowing.

    And yes PAC12FAN, I think it would be great for BYU to switch places with U and be in the PAC 12. It will never happen. But if BYU could get in the Big 12 they couldn't be a travel partner with Nebraska. How could that even be possible? Do you really think the Big 12 would invite Nebraska back and they would actually return from the Big 10? Stranger things have happened, like the PAC 10 thinking they could capture the Salt Lake TV market by inviting Utah into their conference.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 27, 2014 2:07 p.m.

    @ Objectified

    "As such, BYU would obviously do better than Utah with the same schedule......That's the reason for having such polls in the first place... to determine how each team would do with the same schedule and then ranking them accordingly. Is it really that difficult to face football reality?"

    Are you serious? Pre-season polls exists for entertainment only. They have absolutely no predictive value. None. 10 teams from last years pre-season poll wound up un-ranked. Most notably, Michigan St. and Auburn which finished ranked 3rd and 2nd, respectively.

  • holy moly Herrmian, UT
    Aug. 27, 2014 2:41 p.m.

    I believe Utah has the skill to get to a Bowl Game... I think they go 6-6 with the potential for 7-5.

    Idaho St. - Win
    Fresno St - Win
    Michigan - Win
    Washington St. - Win
    UCLA - Loss
    Oregon State - Loss (But close)
    USC - Loss
    Arizona State - Loss
    Oregon - Loss
    Stanford - Loss
    Arizona - Win
    Colorado - Win

    @Chris B... Right.... You will quit posting if Utah does not go to a bowl game...

    Just like you promised to post yourself singing the BYU fight song on YouTube if BYU went better than 1-4 against their toughest competition last year...

    Where is the fight song????

    Are you a man of your word?

    Do a desnews search for "Cougars Unveil Tough Balanced 2013 Football Schedule" and then look for the Jan 28, 2013 9:09 comment from Chris B.

  • holy moly Herrmian, UT
    Aug. 27, 2014 2:46 p.m.

    If the two teams switch schedules, they probably have similar results. BYU and Utah are fairly well matched. Utah has had the better record recently, but the games have been close and I believe BYU has actually had better stats in most of the games. I imagine if BYU was in the PAC, they would not be bowling this year. In addition, Utah would probably do about the same with BYU's schedule.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Aug. 27, 2014 2:56 p.m.

    @Sparkley Briefs

    Great analogy and spot on. Best of luck to your son and his Hoops career.

  • Old But Not Stupid Moorpark, CA
    Aug. 27, 2014 3:05 p.m.

    JonA-

    "That's a terrible mentality that people with low self esteem usually employ. Instead of reaching for the stars, they aim for the roof. Being a big fish in a small pond is something several people need to feel validated. But those with self confidence are willing to try to reach their potential, knowing there's a great chance at failure, but also learning from that failure along the way."

    Throwing cliches around never wins the argument, unless the audience is "low information." Some folks are born and raised in small towns (ponds). Some of them (my millionaire brother--PhD in physical chemistry, MIT and Taysom Hill--starting QB in Div I football) are or will be a big fish in any pond.

    So you might want to buttress your argument without cliches, otherwise, I'll have to point out that SLC is a VERY SMALL pond compared to Los Angeles, CA. You wanna compare T. Wilson with Bret Hundley?

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Aug. 27, 2014 3:47 p.m.

    IRS Agent:

    "that top 25 ranking is coming from the COACHES. They understand the game better than anyone, and aren't going to reward a team that hasn't earned their respect, regardless of their opponents...Trust me, the coaches aren't going to be impressed with by a team's record only"

    Trust me. They DO. Those coaches don't actually watch the games, unless their team had already played them. Even the teams they HADN'T played, but WILL later on in the season won't get watched until after the votes had already been submitted. Coaches just look at W/L records, and rate accordingly. They don't spend as much time on it as do the AP voters.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Aug. 27, 2014 3:56 p.m.

    sammyg:

    "Remember when all Ute fans were laughing at BYU's Thursday and Friday night games?"

    I remember us laughing at you for all the FRIDAY games, but not exclusively the Thursday ones. I also recall us laughing at you for the VOLUME of non-Saturday games. But I don't remember hearing anything in way of the Pac-12 guaranteeing we won't be playing a few non-Saturday games. And with respect to non-Saturday games...

    ...I don't know what it is YOU'RE giggling about. We have only 2 Thursday games, and NONE on Friday. YOU have 2 Thursday games and THREE on Friday. Nearly 42% of your schedule is played on a non-Saturday date. Ours is just south of 17%. Haha!

  • Heinrich Hefeweizen Penticton, 00
    Aug. 29, 2014 12:34 a.m.

    With three quarterbacks posting positive numbers it appears that we may have a workable backup if injury strikes Wilson again. The offense was working particularly well, and while the defense had a lot of holes in the wrong places they toughened up in the red zone. I see a season record in the better category. A win against Fresno State is a must and the conference wins that can be taken are Arizona, Oregon State, Washington State and Colorado, with an better than average change against Michigan USC, UCLA and Arizona State. Stanford and Oregon probably not going to work out well. Good Utes teams from the past have seemingly come out of nowhere (i.e. no pre-season ranking and no love from the media) to head into the post-season. Keep the faith. It's still early in our PAC 12 experience, but we actually have positive signs to look at. Go, Utes!