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  • CMO Beaver Beaver, UT
    Aug. 18, 2014 10:24 a.m.

    stay ready, Kendall, stay ready

  • USAlover Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 18, 2014 10:28 a.m.

    Good news for ALL of Utah's opponents.

  • ArgoFY Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 18, 2014 10:29 a.m.

    Not really a big surprise here. I think Whit played up the competition being 'wide open' to keep Wilson from getting complacent, and to hopefully sharpen his decision making ability.

  • ekute Layton, UT
    Aug. 18, 2014 10:39 a.m.

    Congratulations and best wishes to Travis. Stay healthy my friend.

    Also, it's great knowing that the Utes have a capable back-up.

    Go Utes! Can't wait to see them play.

  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    Aug. 18, 2014 10:40 a.m.

    @Argo - I agree, but it's going to take a consistently huge effort from Wilson to do much this season. Let's hope he can do it; if his play is anything like practices and scrimmages then the U is in for a looong year. And who knows what the first hit he takes will do, backups better be ready to go.

  • water rocket Magna, UT
    Aug. 18, 2014 10:57 a.m.

    Its great to have two of the six Ute QB's stand out, but I was wondering why Coach Whit said they were going to start "tayloring" their offense to the QB? Doesn't this make it more difficult for a team when a backup QB comes in?

  • Fight On! St George, Utah
    Aug. 18, 2014 10:56 a.m.

    Probably a safe Choice by Whittingham. Wilson has been decent when healthy.
    It will be interesting to see if his head injury will effect the way he plays this season. And whether or not he remains healthy through the season is dependent on whether the O-Line has improved or not.
    With Utah breaking in a new offensive scheme and OC, I think they may have a slow start, but if they can keep their starters healthy and maintain the tough defensive play we have seen the past few years they may get to 5 or 6 wins.

    The PAC-12 is going to be brutal this year. Utah will have to bring their A game every week.

  • Schnee Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 18, 2014 11:00 a.m.

    Wilson has shown to be a very capable QB when fully healthy. The only problem is I'm not sure he'll stay healthy. Then again the backup last year is 5th on the depth chart now.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 18, 2014 11:04 a.m.

    At this point, he's still the best passing QB in the state behind Keeton.

    Good to know that after 3 years we've finally found some capable PAC-12 backups!

    Congrats Wilson, now step up and take your game to the next level.

    Go UTES!

  • 2013 Ute Seniors SWEEP byU 4-0 Ogden, UT
    Aug. 18, 2014 11:06 a.m.

    I had been hearing this for a few weeks, so no real surprise.

    Travis Wilson and Coach Christensen are going to get this NASCAR offense going and we WILL go 7-7 or 8-4 and be the surprise team in the Pac 12 conference of champions.

    And we WILL be in the hunt for the Pac 12 title and Rose Bowl game within the last 2 regular season games - that's what makes being in a big boy conference so great.

    The South has so many loaded teams that anyone but Colorado could win it.

    Can't wait!

    Go UTES

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Aug. 18, 2014 11:19 a.m.

    I was really hoping Thompson would win the job. At times Wilson looked good; but he threw way too many ints. Let's get this season started and let the chips fall where they may.

    Go Utah!

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    Aug. 18, 2014 11:25 a.m.

    I'm glad the decision making process is over. I am looking forward to the improved TW. With a vastly improved wide receiving corp and improved running backs, this will be Travis' breakout year as long as he stays healthy. He is one tough kid, and I am glad he is at the helm.

    Go Utes!

  • Down under Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 18, 2014 11:29 a.m.

    WOW, 50% or less completion rate or less for the two best QB's. That sounds like NASCAR will be running in high gear. LOL. Good thing they have a good punter.

  • golong Washington, UT
    Aug. 18, 2014 11:35 a.m.

    Get a haircut! Good grief, at least look like a football player.

  • motorbike Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Aug. 18, 2014 11:38 a.m.

    This is the right decision in my opinion (not that any of us has a clue in comparison with the coaching staff). I simply feel much like others have expressed, that Travis has been a very good QB when he's healthy. But in addition to that, he's come into the season in incredible shape and now has two seasons under his belt at Utah. That experience and level of comfort is typically part of the pay-off that comes with having an upper-classman playing the QB position.
    There are still some question marks with this team, but this team has the ability to surprise some people if the Oline and the defensive back field can both be solid. Here's to hoping. Congrats to Travis and go Utes!

  • Yankees24 SLC, UT
    Aug. 18, 2014 11:40 a.m.

    2013 Ute Seniors SWEEP byU 4-0,

    I like the enthusiasm but let's not get ahead of ourselves. The Utes won't be competing for a Pac 12 title this year. In a couple years yes, but not this year.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 18, 2014 11:44 a.m.

    Down under
    Salt Lake City, UT

    WOW, 50% or less completion rate or less for the two best QB's.

    ------------

    You posted on the wrong article, this isn't about Tysom Hill. Wilson's career passing percentage is around 60%.

  • 2013 Ute Seniors SWEEP byU 4-0 Ogden, UT
    Aug. 18, 2014 12:00 p.m.

    Yankee24,

    Within 2 games left in the regular season Utah will be in contention for the Pac 12 South title - watch and see my friend.

  • JSwaggDaddy Heber City, UT
    Aug. 18, 2014 12:08 p.m.

    @2013 Ute Seniors SWEEP byU 4-0

    "we WILL go 7-7 or 8-4 and be the surprise team in the Pac 12 conference of champions."

    I'm not sure if I want to trust the prediction of somebody who says the utes will either play 14 or 12 games this year.

    "And we WILL be in the hunt for the Pac 12 title and Rose Bowl game within the last 2 regular season games"

    I'm not saying every preseason prediction is accurate, but they are generally a good ballpark guess of where a team will be.

    As much as I'd love to say BYU will go undefeated, they will probably go 10-2 or 9-3 just like the predictions say.

    As much as you love saying that quote above, take off the red goggles and view it objectively. utah is most likely headed for a 4 or 5 win season. If they really play well, maybe they'll be 6-6, or by your math, 7-7.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 18, 2014 12:13 p.m.

    Two observations.

    kendall thompson - not worthy of the hype utah "fans" put on him when the transfer was anounced.

    connor manning - not worthy of the hype utah "fans" placed on him when he committed, signed, and for the last two years.

  • Fight On! St George, Utah
    Aug. 18, 2014 12:13 p.m.

    2013 Ute Seniors SWEEP byU 4-0/Chris B

    Why do you set yourself up for disappointment year after year?

    7-5/ 8-4 is just not realistic against your schedule. Utah struggles too much with winning on the road and would have to upset no less than 4 ranked teams to even get to .500 - You just don't have the depth of talent to compete week after week, you will finish 5th or 6th in the south. Be patient.

    Utah will have a winning season next year with Oregon and Stanford missing from the schedule and Michigan at home.
    We will see if Whittingham and Utah's fragile fanbase can hold on until then.

  • Cletus from Coalville Coalville, UT
    Aug. 18, 2014 12:19 p.m.

    Our NASCAR is really fast and Travis will make our engine go way fast and win us lots!

    Go Utes!

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 18, 2014 12:26 p.m.

    @Fight On

    Unfortunately for utah oregon and stanford will not be missing from next years schedule. utah plays a rotation of 4 years on 2 years off with the pac12 north. That means that washington state and oregon state go off of the schedule next year and washington and cal come back onto the schedule along with oregon and stanford. oregon and stanford will be on the schedule for 2 more years after this year, 3 more years total. if anything the schedule for utah gets even tougher when osu and wsu are off because washington comes back on and utah has never beaten washington nor have they ever beaten washington's new coach chris peterson who owned the utes when he coached at boise. So they lose two games they could maybe win (although niether of them is anything more than maybe) in wsu and osu, for one team they cannot ever beat in washington and another they split with the two years they played them in the pac12 in cal.

    I forsee the futility continuing.

  • IRS Agent PROVO, UT
    Aug. 18, 2014 12:29 p.m.

    What, exactly, is a NASCAR offense?

  • Ufan Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 18, 2014 12:30 p.m.

    Glad to see Wilson get the starting nod, but I have serious doubts about his durability and whether he'll survive that first blind side hit from a blitzing linebacker.

    Thompson seems like a capable backup, but he has absolutely no starting experience in college, so it's still a guessing game as to how well he'll be able to handle the pressure of playing against PAC 12 defenses.

    With the schedule they have, the Utes will have to play better than expected in order to qualify for a bowl.

  • Fight On! St George, Utah
    Aug. 18, 2014 12:37 p.m.

    Duckhunter,

    I apologize, I was under the impression it was a 2 year rotation with Oregon & Stanford/ Washington & Cal, but what you say makes sense. In that case, Utah's schedule will only get more difficult, and I am not sure if there recruiting and coaching changes have improved enough for them to turn the tide of their losing seasons. But we will see- I think Whittingham is a good coach, and Utah is a good team, but nowhere near the level they need to be to compete in the PAC-12.

    It will be interesting to see how long Whittingham/Utah fans can weather the storm.

  • Alpine Coug Alpine, UT
    Aug. 18, 2014 12:43 p.m.

    Good luck Travis. Stay healthy. Hope you have a season for the ages and lead Utah into the upper echelons of the PAC-12.

  • Utefan4Lyf West Jordan, UT
    Aug. 18, 2014 12:59 p.m.

    I still believe Utah can be obtain a 7 win season. The receiving corp looks amazing, the running backs are showing real potential, and Wilson can definitely compete if healthy and focused.
    One other point, no actual "fan" would ever prepare for a 4 win season. It defies the definition of the word.

    go Utes.

  • Old But Not Stupid Moorpark, CA
    Aug. 18, 2014 1:12 p.m.

    2013 Ute Seniors-

    "And we WILL be in the hunt for the Pac 12 title and Rose Bowl game within the last 2 regular season games - that's what makes being in a big boy conference so great.

    The South has so many loaded teams that anyone but Colorado could win it."

    2013 Ut Srs--you may be the only human being to evoke such an emotion. Contend for the RB? Not in my lifetime.

  • Jrod Gman Clearfield, UT
    Aug. 18, 2014 1:13 p.m.

    @ IRS Agent
    A NASCAR offense is where they run around in circles going nowhere.

  • Old But Not Stupid Moorpark, CA
    Aug. 18, 2014 1:16 p.m.

    Uteology

    "You posted on the wrong article, this isn't about Tysom Hill. Wilson's career passing percentage is around 60%."

    You did not read his post....he was referring to BOTH TW and KT's 50% completion rate in your latest scrimmage. If the last week's camp is added to his career numbers he won't be "around" 60%....

  • Old But Not Stupid Moorpark, CA
    Aug. 18, 2014 1:30 p.m.

    Utefan4Lyf
    West Jordan, UT

    "One other point, no actual 'fan' would ever prepare for a 4 win season. It defies the definition of the word." Yeah, you are being honest about fan being derived from fanatic.

    But if you don't want to plan on a 4 win season, why on earth did you join the PAC-12.

    Yes, you are now in a "big boy" conference, but you ARE NOT one of the big boys---and I doubt that you ever will be.

    Go Bruins!

  • DrUte Woods Cross, UT
    Aug. 18, 2014 1:37 p.m.

    Love all the Blue Boys claiming Red futility..... why do you care?

    Why not continue to pray for Divine Intervention for P5 membership!!

    In the meanwhile --- relax, get a cup of hot choc, and take a chill pill.

    Transition into reality --- the train has left the station --- your era is over.

    You are now officially: "Wanna-bYu". Adios muchachos!!

  • UoU 1991 Park City, UT
    Aug. 18, 2014 1:46 p.m.

    Utah made a sensible decision in naming Travis their starting QB.

    Thompson knows he finished behind the incumbant and won't suffer any hits to his psyche. Wilson, on the other hand, would have suffered a huge mental blow losing his starting job to an untested transfer.

  • TroyTown Anaheim, CA
    Aug. 18, 2014 1:54 p.m.

    DrUte

    The reality is you waited your whole life to be invited to join a big boy conference, only to learn once you got here, that you were only invited to be cannon fodder for the big boys, nobody ever expected you to actually "compete" for anything.

    The truth is, your "era" never began because two flash-in-the-pan seasons can hardly be considered an "era".

    Enjoy the paychecks; you're fulfilling your purpose very well.

  • taylormade1 Springville, UT
    Aug. 18, 2014 1:55 p.m.

    We are so good ! just belonging to the pac13, i think we will go at least 9-8 this year !

  • Herbert Gravy Salinas, CA
    Aug. 18, 2014 1:55 p.m.

    Hair today. Gone tomorrow?

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Aug. 18, 2014 2:02 p.m.

    TroyTown

    Cannon Fodder for the Big Boys? Like USC basketball?

  • Utefan4Lyf West Jordan, UT
    Aug. 18, 2014 2:37 p.m.

    @Old But Not Stupid:
    "Yes, you are now in a "big boy" conference, but you ARE NOT one of the big boys---and I doubt that you ever will be."

    I take it you have a crystal ball that tells you this? I'm pretty sure we won't be competing for a conference championship within the next two years, but I can tell you we will see improvement.
    Considering you are cheering for a school who has lost more bowl games in the last 20 years than they have won, and missed a few years as well, you don't have too much to talk about.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    Aug. 18, 2014 2:38 p.m.

    A QB is only as good as his offensive line. We may need all 6 scholarship QB's by the end of the season. Without BYU on the schedule the Utes will have trouble getting to 6 wins and bowl eligibility.

  • DrUte Woods Cross, UT
    Aug. 18, 2014 2:38 p.m.

    Troy Boy: Welcome to FantasyLand.

    As a USC alum myself, among several sheepskins, I am truly awaiting USC's rise from the grave so that Old/Stupid gets a wake-up call.

    In the meanwhile, if you think Utah is a pushover, you need to revisit recent film.....

    Making feckless prognostications about future events is easy. The only thing that matters is backing it up on the field, and Utah is no pushover.

    Pretty clear tht neither USC or UCLA are invincible; check with ASU!! LOL!!!

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    Aug. 18, 2014 2:40 p.m.

    Spokane Ute

    "Cannon Fodder for the Big Boys? Like USC basketball?"

    Your desperate attempt to switch the discussion to a different sport is hilarious since this discussion and the reason for conference realignment is entirely football driven.

    Unfortunately for U, Utah failed miserably during their only window of opportunity to win the PAC 12 South (when USC was on probation and the rest of the division finished below .500), and now your forced to compete against a typical PAC 12 schedule.

    Whether you want to admit it, or not, U are cannon fodder for the big boys of the conference.

  • Yankees24 SLC, UT
    Aug. 18, 2014 2:53 p.m.

    2013 Ute Seniors SWEEP byU 4-0,

    I think that's a little bold to predict. Utah will beat Idaho State, Fresno State, and Colorado. They will most likely lose to Michigan, UCLA, USC, Oregon, Arizona State, and Stanford. Toss ups are Washington State, Oregon State, Arizona. Utah will have to beat all 3 toss ups which I don't see happening. A 5-7 season isn't going to put them in contention for a pac 12 title berth.

  • Chewbacca Magna, UT
    Aug. 18, 2014 2:56 p.m.

    Lotta sour grapes from our friends in blue. If you're honest, you'd give your eye teeth to be "cannon fodder" too. That is the price you have to pay to be among the relevant crowd. It's a starting point. You take your lumps and work your way up from there. Anyone who thinks staying in the MWC was a better idea is nuts.

    The game is different right now for us than it was back in the MWC. We're not competing for BCS bowls right now. We're trying to grow into our new position. Its tough. But its still fun. Just look at our season ticket sales. I've been waiting in line for years now to get season tickets.

    Keep up the good work Coach Whit and company.

    Go Utes!

  • G-Day-M8 Where is Waldo, UT
    Aug. 18, 2014 2:59 p.m.

    Jrod Gman:

    @ IRS Agent
    A NASCAR offense is where they run around in circles going nowhere.

    Best LOL I've had in weeks, Thanks!

  • Jeremy234 SLC, UT
    Aug. 18, 2014 3:05 p.m.

    @ Duckhunter Utah plays one bay area team every year, and three of the four north west teams. Utah will drop Stanford and OSU next year and pick up Cal and Washington.

  • 65TossPowerTrap Salmon, ID
    Aug. 18, 2014 3:07 p.m.

    This is about as surprising as Dorothy making it back to Kansas.

  • Koloss Hampton, VA
    Aug. 18, 2014 3:08 p.m.

    If you compare Wilson's first 6 games, pre-injury, to Taysom's final 6 (3 P5 teams, 2 mid majors and an FCS opponent) obviously Wilson is better. Per play Wilson had 7.9 yards whether he ran or passed vs Hill's 5.6. He had more Touchdowns through the air (13 vs 10) and on the ground (5 vs 3). Higher total yards (1923 vs 1830) despite Hill having 84 more attempts rushing or passing. Wilson had higher passing and rushing yards per attempt(8.4/7.9 vs 6.1/5.6, respectively). Against the P5 teams Utah was outscored by 4 points while BYU was outscored by 35. Take your garbage schedule against 3 P5 teams, Utah has 10, play the worst teams in the ACC and Pac-12. Keep bantering on about whatever, you're just the little annoying Chihuahau the Rottweiler stomps every year. On average.

  • G-Day-M8 Where is Waldo, UT
    Aug. 18, 2014 3:30 p.m.

    Chewbacca:

    "Lotta sour grapes from our friends in blue. If you're honest, you'd give your eye teeth to be "cannon fodder" too. Anyone who thinks staying in the MWC was a better idea is nuts."

    You do realize the boys in blue take advantage of every scheduling opportunity to play P5 even if on the road? You do realize the boys in blue have played or scheduled every team in the PAC 12 since independence? You do realize the boys in blue have been complimented by Larry as a P5 quality opponent? You do realize the boys in blue are no longer in the MWC? You do realize the boys in blue have their own ESPN contract? ...

    The boys in blue have never been referenced as or ever claimed to be cannon fodder as u have claimed about your beloved utes.

  • Utah'95 FPO, AE
    Aug. 18, 2014 3:31 p.m.

    Congratulations, Travis!

    For those of you who make it sound like Wilson is fragile, consider that last season's combination of a significant throwing hand injury, concussion, AND the discovery of a previously-unrecognized intracranial artery condition won't happen again. If the preexisting condition hadn't been found, he would have played the last two games of the season. He's a big, strong kid, and may play the entire season this year without an injury.

    I hope Wilson stays healthy, and has a productive season. If neither comes to fruition, then it sounds like Thompson will be a capable replacement. I expect that we'll see him at the helm on several series of downs from the beginning of the season. He could provide a dangerous change of pace to the opposing defense.

    Can't wait for the season to begin. Go Utes!

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    Aug. 18, 2014 3:37 p.m.

    Koloss

    Typical Utah fan comparison.

    If you compare just the things in this little box here...

    say from 2004 to 2008 only,

    or just the games that Travis performed well in,

    or whatever comparison paints Utah in the best light possible.

    lol at the always humerous, self-serving comparisons that Utah fans come up with.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Aug. 18, 2014 3:39 p.m.

    Travis Wilson, a.k.a. Jordan Wynn the sequel. Decent freshmen year, injuries creep in during sophomore year and seem likely to continue.

    I'm not a doctor, but based on the description of Travis' injury I have no idea why he would keep playing. Don't risk the next 80 years of your life for the next 80 days of football. Head injuries are not worth taking a chance on.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Aug. 18, 2014 3:57 p.m.

    @ Utefan4Lyf - "Considering you are cheering for a school who has lost more bowl games in the last 20 years than they have won, and missed a few years as well, you don't have too much to talk about."

    Bowl games? You really want to talk bowl games? When will be the next year the Utes get invited to a bowl game? I'm betting it will be in 2017, with a proud 6-6 record. Should be a fun trip for U to Albuquerque.

  • 79Ute Orange County, CA
    Aug. 18, 2014 4:19 p.m.

    Dr. Ute:

    "Feckless prognostication" was awesome, but can't you find a way to get your nouns and verbs to agree with each other?

  • motorbike Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Aug. 18, 2014 4:19 p.m.

    Snack PAC

    "Your desperate attempt to switch the discussion to a different sport is hilarious since this discussion and the reason for conference realignment is entirely football driven."

    Yet it was you and your BYU buddies on these threads who were saying the exact same thing about basketball as little as one year ago - that Utah would never compete in the PAC 12. Yet here we are and NOW you don't want to make comparisons to basketball. Instead, you and your same buddies want to say the same thing about football, that Utah will never compete with the best, when in fact you have no idea (and somehow missed the 2013 Stanford game I might add).

    Bottom line, no matter where Utah falls in ANY sport, you've gotta be in it to win it. At least Utah's in it, and you know what? It feels good!

  • Old But Not Stupid Moorpark, CA
    Aug. 18, 2014 4:41 p.m.

    Utefan4Lyf
    West Jordan, UT

    "@Old But Not Stupid:
    I take it you have a crystal ball that tells you this?"

    No, just common sense and experience.

    "I'm pretty sure we won't be competing for a conference championship within the next two years, but I can tell you we will see improvement."

    Ahh. The inevitable moral victory (seeing improvement) syndrome.

    "Considering you are cheering for a school who has lost more bowl games in the last 20 years than they have won, and missed a few years as well, you don't have too much to talk about."

    I think I will have more to chat about this year (and next, and the next) than you will. Sorry, but you can't have Coach Mora. Please don't forget how ya'll got "Jacked" by Myles Jack last year--if I recall he had a game ending interception, no?

    As I've noted many times the Utes may contend occasionally in basketball, but you simply cannot compete with the Left Coast programs in recruiting for football.

    Good luck, but I wouldn't recommend any LoLs....

    Go Bruins! Ranked #7 vs. Utah's #77 ??

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Aug. 18, 2014 4:49 p.m.

    THis is going to be good because he can't win good teams and if we played them we would win them this time.

  • Old But Not Stupid Moorpark, CA
    Aug. 18, 2014 4:49 p.m.

    79Ute
    Orange County, CA

    "Dr. Ute:
    'Feckless prognostication' was awesome, but can't you find a way to get your nouns and verbs to agree with each other?"

    79er-
    Wasn't Dr. Ute the one who claimed a sheepskin from USC (aka Figueroa Tech)? If so, that would explain most of the doctor's deficiencies.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Aug. 18, 2014 4:52 p.m.

    @motorbike

    You are spot on. It's very funny how selective memory works for certain individuals. I'm sue Stanford wouldn't consider Utah Cannon Fodder.

    Take Care Guy!

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 18, 2014 5:03 p.m.

    Old But Not Stupid
    Moorpark, CA

    Uteology

    "You posted on the wrong article, this isn't about Tysom Hill. Wilson's career passing percentage is around 60%."

    You did not read his post....he was referring to BOTH TW and KT's 50% completion rate in your latest scrimmage. If the last week's camp is added to his career numbers he won't be "around" 60%....

    --------------

    The only scrimmage numbers I care about is Weber State and BYU last year, in both games he was great.

    One more point, if Hills scrimmage passing numbers are added to his career passing numbers he would be playing fullback or on the bench at another program.

  • Uncle Rico Provo, UT
    Aug. 18, 2014 5:22 p.m.

    Once again Duckhunter has no idea what he is talking about.

    Utah does NOT play Stanford in 2015 or 2016 (as Duckhunter said).
    Utah has a 2 year rotation with Cal and Stanford (2 years on, 2 years off). Utah never plays Stanford and Cal in the same season.

    Duckhunter should stay on the cougar board. They have their own qb with issues. Hill had 30 incompletions against Utah last year and lost to Virginia.

    Wilson had the best win (against Stanford) and won the head-to-head game.

    Hill may be the best QB in AAC this year, but he wouldn't start at Utah.

  • Utefan4Lyf West Jordan, UT
    Aug. 18, 2014 5:54 p.m.

    @CougfaninTx: Did you really just bring up the quality of bowl invites? Have you looked at BYU's options? I'd be really proud if I were you. You get to beat 9 high school teams to play in The Miami Beach Bowl. That, and the fact that not even your prognostic skills can determine where the Utes will land this year leads your comment to be less than informational.

    Old But Not Stupid:
    You may be right, but how many years has it taken you to get to this point? The Utes are gearing up to make some noise. We may even surprise you. That would just be the icing on the cake.

  • mindgames Aurora, CO
    Aug. 18, 2014 5:59 p.m.

    Congratulations to Travis in making it all the way back. As a BYU fan I was sorry to hear about his injury last year and wished him the best in his recovery. Now that recovery is complete and he IS the starting quarterback.

    Good luck in the 2014 season and hopefully you will have the success you deserve.

    I'M JUST SORRY WE WON'T HAVE THE CHANCE TO PLAY TRAVIS AGAIN. Maybe in the 2015 4-team National Championship Playoffs.

    Goooooooooo Cougars!!!

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 18, 2014 6:19 p.m.

    @Duckhunter
    Highland, UT

    @Fight On

    Unfortunately for utah oregon and stanford will not be missing from next years schedule.

    utah plays a rotation of 4 years on 2 years off with the pac12 north. That means that washington state and oregon state go off of the schedule next year and washington and cal come back onto the schedule along with oregon and stanford.

    oregon and stanford will be on the schedule for 2 more years after this year, 3 more years total.... I forsee the futility continuing.

    -------------------

    You might be better able to foresee if you did some research.

    Here's Utah's future PAC-12 North opponents:

    2015/16: Cal, Oregon, OSU, WSU
    2017/18: Stanford, Oregon, Washington, WSU

    Source:
    EIGHT-YEAR PAC-12 FOOTBALL SCHEDULE ROTATION
    SB Nation

  • utefever kaysville, UT
    Aug. 18, 2014 6:42 p.m.

    Snack PAC
    I find it interesting that whenever someone brings in data, it intimidates the blue crowd. BYU's winning percentage against the PAC 12 last year, 0%. This year, luckily, you avoid the Utes but most likely you will end up with the same winning percentage of 0% as you will have to play CAL, the worst team in the league. It will be funny. Keep bragging about your 8-5 record, because if you played in the Conference of Champions, based on data, your winning percentage would be...........0%

  • midpacmajor Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 18, 2014 8:37 p.m.

    utefever

    I find it interesting that whenever someone brings in a representative sample of data, it intimidates the crimson glasses wearing crowd.

    Bronco's winning percentage versus PAC 12 teams, 50% (9-9)
    Kyle's winning percentage versus PAC 12 teams, 38% (13-21)

    Keep bragging about your SOS trophy, but the truth is, BYU accomplished something in 2013 that has never been accomplished at the U; BYU qualified for a bowl after playing a Top 40 SOS.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 18, 2014 8:40 p.m.

    Duckhunter
    Highland, UT

    Two observations.

    kendall thompson - not worthy of the hype utah "fans" put on him when the transfer was anounced.

    connor manning - not worthy of the hype utah "fans" placed on him when he committed, signed, and for the last two years.

    ---------------

    Any observations about the 5 star player that was beat out by the 3rd string QB from Utah State?

    Jake Heaps - Still not worthy of all the hype BYU "fans" placed on him after the press conference at Iggy's.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 18, 2014 8:41 p.m.

    @uncle rico

    I stand corrected, but I knew that it wasn't a 2 on 2 off with both oregon and stanford so utah does get oregon 4 years straight. I'm sure those will all be losses.

  • UtesBy5 Syracuse, UT
    Aug. 18, 2014 9:21 p.m.

    Good luck Travis. Hopefully Wilson can stay healthy for the complete season and Thompson can get some packages to utilize his athleticism. The Utes have solid receivers and running backs, if the line is as improved as I'm hearing, Utah could surprise a few people this year.

    To our mid-major program friends, thank you for your always positive comments.

    Go Utes!!

  • GoRed WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    Aug. 18, 2014 9:41 p.m.

    I'm curious, byu fans, what ranked teams are you playing this year? Utah will be playing 5 ranked teams. Is your team from Provo even playing one ranked team?

    So that's your secret. Play a schedule full of the worst teams from a few major conferences, coupled with several average teams from mid-major conferences, so you can boast that your hollow, inflated record is greater than your former rival's record, discounting the fact that your rivals are playing challenging, yet meaningful games every week.

    Your only reward seems to be to come onto the comment boards to make fun of your rivals, while conveniently overlooking the fact that your team has one of the softest schedules in the country. But any unbiased football fan knows the truth.

  • motorbike Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Aug. 18, 2014 11:10 p.m.

    Duckhunter

    "...so utah does get oregon 4 years straight. I'm sure those will all be losses."

    After you were so sure of yourself about a BYU victory over Utah last year, as well as a certain Utah defeat at the hands of #5 Stanford, I suddenly find myself feeling like Utah has a decent shot of upsetting the Ducks. Ha! Imagine that, the Utah Utes... the best duckhunters on the DNews chat boards!

  • Taysom4Heisman Heber City, UT
    Aug. 18, 2014 11:57 p.m.

    @utefever

    "BYU's winning percentage against the PAC 12 last year, 0%... if you played in the Conference of Champions, based on data, your winning percentage would be...........0%"

    What a ridiculous assumption. It's 2 games (Wash. and utah). To say we wouldn't win a game in the Pac-12 is crazy.

    I suppose we would have gone undefeated in the Big 12 last year since we had a 100% win percentage against that conference last year. And I suppose Utah State would have gone undefeated in the Pac-12 in 2012.

    The train of thought of some people is really interesting sometimes.

  • Tomahawk Red San Francisco, CA
    Aug. 19, 2014 4:52 a.m.

    Duckhunter
    Highland, UT
    @Fight On

    Unfortunately for utah oregon and stanford will not be missing from next years schedule. utah plays a rotation of 4 years on 2 years off with the pac12 north. That means that washington state and oregon state go off of the schedule next year

    -------------

    No you're wrong too.

    Utah will never play Stanford and Cal in the same year (nor will CU, ASU or Arizona) due to the Bay schools' protected rivalries with the LA schools. Every year from this point forward, either Cal or Stanford will be missing from Utah's (and the other 3 I mentioned) schedule. The other bye rotates among the rest of the P12 North teams.

    So beginning next season, we lose Stanford again plus either Oregon State or Wazzu.

  • CG Orem, UT
    Aug. 19, 2014 7:47 a.m.

    "I'm curious, BYU fans, what ranked teams are you playing this year? Utah will be playing 5 ranked teams."

    How could you possibly know how many ranked teams U, BYU, or any other team will be playing this year?

    A couple of years ago, Utah was scheduled to play preseason #1 USC. By the end of the season, USC wasn't even ranked.

    The same could be the case for any, or all, of the preseason "ranked" teams on Utah's schedule.

    Meanwhile, 5 of BYU's 2014 opponents received votes in the AP preseason poll. How do you know that all 5 won't be ranked by season's end?

  • John Locke Ivins, , UT
    Aug. 19, 2014 10:31 a.m.

    Travis deserves the start, but I would hope they allow him to run, also. That does set up the passing game in Utah's offensive system. Thompson would require additional prep time for the other team, which is good. Here's to a great season.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Aug. 19, 2014 10:55 a.m.

    Utes should have taken Jake Heaps when they had the chance.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    Aug. 19, 2014 11:10 a.m.

    CG:

    "5 of BYU's 2014 opponents received votes in the AP preseason poll. How do you know that all 5 won't be ranked by season's end?"

    That's what byU fan is hanging their hat on this year? I hate to tell you this, but if that is your best argument, you are in for one extremely long season, especially since two of the 5 teams only received one single vote. What you fail to understand is that for them to end the season ranked, they will most assuredly have to beat byU to get there. So if you are rooting for all five to be ranked, you are also rooting for 5 byU losses.

    BTW, if you're counting all of Utah opponents that received votes, that would be 7 the 12 games. But reality dictates that when talking about preseason ranked teams, we keep the number at 5 - the number of teams actually ranked.

    The byU faithful continue to entertain me and prove that they cannot survive football without Utah. Thank you all for your love and your support for all things Ute.

    Go Utes!!

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    Aug. 19, 2014 11:36 a.m.

    Spokane Ute:
    "I'm su(r)e Stanford wouldn't consider Utah Cannon Fodder."

    Actually that is probably why they lost. The Big Dog that doesn't notice the pug slobbering on his shoe until he bites.

  • There You Go Again Saint George, UT
    Aug. 19, 2014 11:59 a.m.

    Given the recent history of QB's staying healthy, it looks like Thompson will have more than an outside chance of playing this year.

    Don't forget that Alex took over for the injured QB plying in front of him...

    And never looked back.

  • scott Alpine, UT
    Aug. 19, 2014 12:12 p.m.

    VegasUte

    Who said anything about BYU fans "hanging their hat" on anything?

    The only thing CG was pointing out was the hypocrisy of Utah fans assuming that Utah's and BYU's preseason opponent rankings are cast in stone.

    It's interesting to see all of the whiny excuse-making by Utah fans before the season has even started desperately trying to explain away why BYU will have another more successful year than Utah.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    Aug. 19, 2014 12:23 p.m.

    Cougsndawgs:

    If Utah is supposedly "the pug slobbering on his shoe", what does that make byU who can't beat the slobbering pug in anything anymore? Or Virginia, the 2-10 team that beat the team that can't beat the slobbering pug in anything anymore?

    Thanks for playing.

    Go Utes!

    9 days!!

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    Aug. 19, 2014 12:26 p.m.

    worf

    "Utes should have taken Jake Heaps when they had the chance."

    Jake did play for Utah once, and byU fans got free turnovers as a result.

    Go Utes!!

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    Aug. 19, 2014 12:47 p.m.

    scott:

    "The only thing CG was pointing out was the hypocrisy" - interesting coming from byU fan on a Utah article. The hypocrisy is byU fan claiming that they are better than Utah because a preseason poll gave them nine votes then byU fan coming on a Utah article claiming hypocrisy because rankings are not "cast in stone". The logic makes my head spin, but it is entertaining none the less.

    Seems like the whYnY excuse making and the desperate grab for attention is coming from Utah County. Otherwise, Why would byU fan care about what Utah fans think about their own team? Thanks again for proving my point that you can't survive football without Utah.

    Good luck to byU with their tough schedule of five teams that got at least one vote in a preseason poll - oh ya, and with Savannah State and UNLV to finish out your amazing home schedule.

    Go Utes!
    Come on football, we're all going stir crazy

  • PAC man Anaheim, CA
    Aug. 19, 2014 1:13 p.m.

    VegasUte

    "Seems like the whiny excuse making and the desperate grab for attention is coming from Utah County."

    Actually, the only desperation here is the kids on the hill desperately making whiny excuses to explain why the P5 Utes were completely ignored by the national media and coaches, while the non-P5 Cougars and Aggies are at least on the national radar.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 19, 2014 2:10 p.m.

    @worf
    Mcallen, TX

    Utes should have taken Jake Heaps when they had the chance.

    ----------------

    Why we already had a D2 QB, he would never have played at Utah.

  • Utefan4Lyf West Jordan, UT
    Aug. 19, 2014 3:57 p.m.

    @PAC Man: Actually, we Ute fans know that we aren't going to be ranked until we win meaningful games, consistently. This year will give us another shot at that. I have faith that we'll ring a few more bells this season.

    go Utes!

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    Aug. 19, 2014 4:52 p.m.

    VegasUte:
    "If Utah is supposedly "the pug slobbering on his shoe", what does that make byU who can't beat the slobbering pug in anything anymore?"

    Once again you bring BYU into the conversation when I didn't say anything about them. Utah is still the slobbering pug to Stanford, regardless of what happens between BYU and Utah. Again, this is why BYU fans know Utah is nothing without them, because you've accomplished nothing except a recent run of beating BYU. Good for U, but do U think Stanford, Oregon, ASU, USC, or UCLA care? Still the slobbering pug, regardless of what U do against your rival (oh wait...is that the mighty Buffalos and the annual powder puff pillow fight now?).

    And just a side note: BYU has won 11 of the last 13 games against Utah in bball...kinda makes your "BYU can't beat Utah in anything anymore" a little hyperbolic doesn't it? Unless you think one nice win last year all of a sudden erases the previous 11 losses.

  • Sparkley Briefs New York, NY
    Aug. 19, 2014 5:10 p.m.

    scott:

    "It's interesting to see all of the whiny excuse-making by Utah fans before the season has even started desperately trying to explain away why BYU will have another more successful year than Utah."

    I suppose it depends on how you define success. Put Utah or Utah St. In BYU's position and they make the Beach Blanket Bowl 98 out of 100 times too - success as defined by scott, sort of like a participation trophy. I think success for the Aggies would be contending for a conference title and earning a bowl birth. Success for the Utes this year would be to get enough wins to go bowling and end with a +.500 record. Those are far bigger challenges than a free ride to the beach. IMO, a real sucessful year for the Cougars this year would be an 11-1 record and a solid top 20 ranking. Let's hope all three teams can enjoy sucess this year!

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 19, 2014 6:06 p.m.

    It's laughable how Utah fans used to beat their chests about all those consecutive bowl wins (when Utah was nothing more than a mediocre team beating an equally mediocre team), but now that the Utes are mighty P5s, Utah fans look down their noses at a team that merely qualifies for a bowl.

    Remind us, Sparkley Briefs, when was the last time Utah qualified for a bowl after playing the 38th ranked SOS?

  • BlueNtheFace Rancho Cucamonga, CA
    Aug. 19, 2014 6:24 p.m.

    Can a team be more under the skin of someone than BYU is with Uteology?? His first 2 comments on this article,which is exclusive to the Utes, are centered around BYU:

    "At this point, he's still the best passing QB in the state behind Keeton." Psst. Your team avoided playing both the Cougars and the Aggies this year. Why are they still on your mind??

    "You posted on the wrong article, this isn't about Tysom Hill. Wilson's career passing percentage is around 60%." (in response to an unrelated snide remark about TW and KT's passing %)

    Keep your eye on the Y, brah. You need us.

    Good luck Wilson.

  • Surf is Up Miami, FL
    Aug. 19, 2014 6:24 p.m.

    @DrUte "Love all the Blue Boys claiming Red futility..... why do you care?..."

    I've read posts/jabs you've made about BYU to articles exclusively about BYU. It's no secret.

    Why do you care?

    Congrats to T.W. for winning the QB reigns again. He is the best they have; and ute fans should not find that comforting.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 19, 2014 8:42 p.m.

    @gored

    "Utah will be playing 5 ranked teams"

    Maybe, but probably not. Remember it is the utah "fans" around here that have told us that preseason, and even in season, rankings are meaningless. It is only when the season is done that a ranking is true and applies. Don't you remember telling us that BYU's win over Texas didn't count as a win over a ranked team because even though they were ranked when BYU trounced them they fell out of the rankings and so that nullifed it from being counted as a win over a ranked team. Ditto for when BYU beat Oklahoma which was the 2nd ranked team in the country until BYU beat them and put their QB out for the season. Didn't count according to utah "fans".

    So when some of those "5 ranked teams" lose, as they surely will, and do not finish ranked (especially if they lose to utah)doesn't that mean that utah will not have played "5 ranked teams"? That is the utah "fan" standard although the utah "fan" hypocrisy will certainly try to spin it differently to try and make utah look better.

    lol

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 20, 2014 8:24 a.m.

    @BlueNtheFace

    Can a team be more under the skin of someone than BYU is with Uteology?? His first 2 comments on this article,which is exclusive to the Utes, are centered around BYU:

    "At this point, he's still the best passing QB in the state behind Keeton." Psst. Your team avoided playing both the Cougars and the Aggies this year. Why are they still on your mind??

    ---------------

    Exaggerate much?

    Nope, I never mentioned BYU in my first post. You just made that up. Yes, I did give props to Keaton as being the best QB in the state but it was centered around Wilson.

    In my second post, I simple corrected the miss information posted by a Cougar fan since you guys didn't. Just like you guys haven't called out Tysom Hill on his horrible scrimmage numbers but feel it's appropriate to mock Wilson.

    Yes, my team is "avoiding" BYU and Utah State in order to take on "better" opponents Michagon and Fresno State.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 20, 2014 8:32 a.m.

    @BlueNtheFace

    "You posted on the wrong article, this isn't about Tysom Hill. Wilson's career passing percentage is around 60%." (in response to an unrelated snide remark about TW and KT's passing %)

    Keep your eye on the Y, brah. You need us.

    -----------

    So you post a snide remark about Utah (TW and KT), which isn't even correct.

    Someone corrects you, with correct data.

    You come back and pound your chest that it proves the Y gets under my skin?

    Priceless!

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Aug. 20, 2014 9:40 a.m.

    @Uteology

    Nicely done and spot on as usual. The article is about Utah's starting QB; yet the usual band of characters turn it into a BYU thing. Par for the course. It's pretty obvious who's under whoms skin.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    Aug. 20, 2014 10:42 a.m.

    Spokane Ute:
    "The article is about Utah's starting QB; yet the usual band of characters turn it into a BYU thing. Par for the course. It's pretty obvious who's under whoms skin."

    Have you and uteology looked at and commented on more than your share of BYU articles, often interjecting Utah into the conversation? Do you call the kettle black often, Pot?

    Lets not be disingenuous by pretending that either fanbase isn't under the others skin...it's a rivalry. But I'm sure U get under the Colorado Puffaloes skin just as much right?

  • truthsandwich The Bubble, UT
    Aug. 20, 2014 2:15 p.m.

    @Uteanymous

    "Remind us, Sparkley Briefs, when was the last time Utah qualified for a bowl after playing the 38th ranked SOS?"

    When was the last time BYU went undefeated playing a top 95 strength of schedule?

  • truthsandwich The Bubble, UT
    Aug. 20, 2014 2:23 p.m.

    I have to laugh at all this talk about bowl games from the BYU crowd because the Utes didn't go bowling against a strength of schedule that BYU fans clearly can't fathom. BYU may typically get to bowl games by beating bad teams, but that's where they seem to get exposed.

    Utah on the other hand boasts the highest bowl winning percentage of any major college football program that has been to at least 10 bowls. We've also been to and won two BCS bowls. BYU in it's entire "storied" history has never even played in a bowl that big. Let alone won one. Hence the ankle biting.

  • DeepBlue Anaheim, CA
    Aug. 20, 2014 2:40 p.m.

    truthsandwich

    Qualifying for a bowl is a MUCH lower standard than going undefeated, which Utah has never done versus a Top 50 schedule.

    By the way, you completely avoided the actual question, so here it is again:

    "...when was the last time Utah qualified for a bowl after playing the 38th ranked SOS?"

    BYU accomplished such a feat in 2013.

    When has Utah ever accomplished such a feat?

  • Y's little brother Sandy, UT
    Aug. 20, 2014 2:53 p.m.

    truthwich

    "I have to laugh at all this talk about bowl games from the BYU crowd..."

    Which makes all of that bowl-game winning streak talk that Utah fans used to be so obsessed with,

    absolutely hysterical!

    Especially, your "bowl game winning percentage" spin.

    FOUR of Utah's 17 bowl opponents(24%) were ranked in both final polls, including TWO in the Top 15.

    SIXTEEN of BYU's 32 bowl opponents(50%) were ranked in both final polls, including TEN in the Top 15.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Aug. 20, 2014 4:49 p.m.

    Cougs and Dawgs

    Wow, thought you were a straight shooter, but things appear to be personal. My mistake. Does Savanah State get under your skin? Good Grief!

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Aug. 20, 2014 4:54 p.m.

    @ Cougs and Dawgs

    Furthermore you may want to read my comment on the new BYU-Washington series before labeling someone.

  • truthsandwich The Bubble, UT
    Aug. 20, 2014 8:03 p.m.

    Deep Blue

    "Qualifying for a bowl is a MUCH lower standard than going undefeated.

    By the way, you completely avoided the actual question, so here it is again:

    "...when was the last time Utah qualified for a bowl after playing the 38th ranked SOS?"

    BYU accomplished such a feat in 2013.

    When has Utah ever accomplished such a feat?"

    At least you can admit that Utah has set a "MUCH" higher standard than the cougs.

    By the way, you did that twice you ironically avoided my actual question, so here it is again:

    "When was the last time BYU went undefeated against a top 95 strength of schedule."

    Utah has accomplished such a feat twice.

    When has BYU ever accomplished such a feat?

    LOL

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    Aug. 20, 2014 9:00 p.m.

    Spokane Ute:
    I did read your comment on the UW v BYU series. I appreciated it and it was thoughtful...which you usually are, so I hope you didn't think I was taking things personal. I was commenting that both fanbases are guilty of making unrelated and wise crack comments on each other's board. I felt it was disingenuous of you to say it was typical of BYU fans, while not recognizing that ute fans including you and uteology are guilty of doing the same thing.

    You usually are a straight shooter, and I enjoy most of your posts. I was making an honest observation...nothing personal. Lets face it, no one should take anything personal on these boards...they provide entertainment and a platform for bantering and ribbing my rival. I truly don't take it personal, and I hope you don't either. Cheers

  • Gandalph Sandy, UT
    Aug. 20, 2014 10:03 p.m.

    truthsandwich

    The highest standard possible in going undefeated isn't your strength of schedule, but whether or not you impressed the majority of voters enough to be ranked #1 in the final polls.

    BYU did that in both the AP and Coaches polls in 1984.

    Utah was only a distant 2nd in one poll in 2008.

    Sorry to burst your crimson bubble, but your best, was only a distant 2nd best.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Aug. 21, 2014 7:11 a.m.

    @CougsandDawgs

    Cool enough and fair enough Guy! Cheers indeed!

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 21, 2014 4:51 p.m.

    DeepBlue
    Anaheim, CA

    truthsandwich

    Qualifying for a bowl is a MUCH lower standard than going undefeated, which Utah has never done versus a Top 50 schedule.

    By the way, you completely avoided the actual question, so here it is again:

    "...when was the last time Utah qualified for a bowl after playing the 38th ranked SOS?"

    BYU accomplished such a feat in 2013.

    When has Utah ever accomplished such a feat?

    --------------

    That's an accomplishment? Utah had a very similar schedule in 2011:

    * Utah (8-5) in 2011 SOS #49, 6-5 vs P5 teams and 2-0 vs others.
    * BYU (8-5) in 2013 SOS #38, 2-5 vs P5 teams and 6-0 vs others.

    All you did is beat the same teams you've been beating to get into a bowl game for decades and lost to the similar teams you've been losing to for decades. Congrats!

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 21, 2014 5:04 p.m.

    Gandalph
    Sandy, UT

    truthsandwich

    The highest standard possible in going undefeated isn't your strength of schedule, but whether or not you impressed the majority of voters enough to be ranked #1 in the final polls.

    BYU did that in both the AP and Coaches polls in 1984.

    Utah was only a distant 2nd in one poll in 2008.

    Sorry to burst your crimson bubble, but your best, was only a distant 2nd best.

    -------------

    Today, the 1984 title is as impressive as the multiple championships by Army and TCU.

    Utah helped lower the standards in 2004 and BYU is still trying to get to its first January (BCS/major bowl) since. Even though Hawaii, UCF, and NIU have already done so.

  • BlueCoug Orem, UT
    Aug. 21, 2014 9:28 p.m.

    Uteology

    Today, BYU's Crystal Football National Championship Trophy is just as brilliant and just as impressive as any other Crystal Football National Championship Trophy.

    The only difference between BYU's 1984 trophy and Florida State's 2013 trophy is the name and year engraved on the trophy.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 21, 2014 10:16 p.m.

    @uteology

    The Cotton Bowl is a "major new years day bowl" and his been for decades.

  • Solomon Levi Alpine, UT
    Aug. 22, 2014 4:28 p.m.

    Uteology

    "Utah had a very similar schedule in 2011:..."

    that was ranked ELEVEN places lower than BYU's 2013 schedule (#38 vs #49), which is obviously insignificant to you, yet you made a big deal out Utah finishing ONE place higher than BYU in 2013 (#34 vs #35).

    Try showing a little consistency.