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  • Mildred in Fillmore Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 12, 2014 5:53 p.m.

    Undefeated season and a spot in the play offs.

    Easily.

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    Aug. 12, 2014 6:38 p.m.

    Center of attraction for many Ute "fans".

    Easily.

  • GoRed WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    Aug. 12, 2014 7:01 p.m.

    Not much to get excited for with this WAC-light schedule.

  • Jeff29 Draper, UT
    Aug. 12, 2014 7:34 p.m.

    @GoRed

    So I'm assuming you didn't get excited in 2004 and 2008 when the Utes went undefeated with similar (possibly weaker) schedules. (According to Sagarin the Utes SOS was 67 and 56, respectively)

    It's pretty hard to argue, as many of U do, that the Utes' performances in 2004 and 2008 helped get them into the PAC12 and then criticize a school that has a schedule similar to the Utes schedule in those years.

  • Sanefan Wellsville, UT
    Aug. 12, 2014 8:08 p.m.

    YAY Jeff! Nice post. I had no idea the Utes schedule those years was so weak. Thank you for the enlightenment.

  • Ronald Uharriet SWun City, Ca.
    Aug. 12, 2014 8:19 p.m.

    I would like to see more Bear Bryant type coaching and less Oral Roberts type coaching.

    I would like to see every ligitimate day to practice taken advantage of in order to develope the very best possible execution from each individual player from the right guard, right tackle, left guard, left tackle, WR, TE, Center, QB and all of the back field on the defensive side, the offensive side and the special teams. We are not sooooo great yet, ------that we can take time off before the last ball has been snapped at the end of the season in our bowl game.

    If bored with the practice time spent, instead of taking off work, find a different game to play or coach. I predict a very respectable 10- 2 season with losses only to UCF and Texas. Houston and Boise State are not to be over looked and neither is Utah State which will make those games interesting, but we will win them unless we beat ourselves through foolishness like taking time off of practice.

  • Riley Mendenhall Provo, UT
    Aug. 12, 2014 8:44 p.m.

    Re: Jeff29

    Come on Jeff. In 2008 Utah beat 4 teams that finished the season ranked in the top 25, 2 of them finished in the top 10.

    There is no team on BYUs schedule close to what TCU was in 2008.

  • Jeff29 Draper, UT
    Aug. 12, 2014 8:56 p.m.

    @Riley

    And yet that year they're Sagarin SOS was 56. We'll see where BYU's SOS ends up, but the bottom line is that the U played a MWC schedule that year. Regardless of that fact, Ute fans will extoll the greatness of that year and in the same breath disparage BYU's MWC-like schedule. Just asking for a little objective, intellectually honest assessment from Ute fans.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Aug. 12, 2014 9:26 p.m.

    Ronald Uharriet
    SWun City, Ca.

    I'd like to see more Bronco Mendenhall style coaching. It's BYU after all. Neither Bear Bryant nor Oral Roberts would be a perfect fit in Provo.

  • WACPaddingOurSchedule pocatello, ID
    Aug. 12, 2014 10:32 p.m.

    Green jello pops for the first 20,000 fans!

  • JustGordon Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Aug. 13, 2014 5:17 a.m.

    I am predicting an undefeated season and another National Championship for the boys in blue! It is August and no games have been played, so whose to say that reality should play any role in my prediction.

    This a schedule the Cougars have been begging to have...literally.

    Only pessimists would think them not capable of finally a Quest for Perfection. Gosh, they've had lots of time since the first announced quest to get it....well perfect!

    Rise and Shout, the Cougars ain't out...of it yet!

  • Flames6 North Salt Lake, UT
    Aug. 13, 2014 6:56 a.m.

    @ Jeff
    What was a BYUs sos in 1984 ?

  • Cletus from Coalville Coalville, UT
    Aug. 13, 2014 7:00 a.m.

    Utah will win the rose bowl better than byu can win easily.

    Go Utes!

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 13, 2014 8:44 a.m.

    Jeff29

    BYU's 2013 #38 SOS was considered "weak" by the crimson-glasses wearers, yet the same hill crowd still beats their chests about Utah's 2004 and 2008 seasons with #67 and #56 SOS.

    Of course, they'll use BYU's 1984 as their fallback rebuttal, completely ignoring their own inconsistency in calling BYU 2013 schedule "weak" to justify why BYU was able to qualify for a bowl in 2013.

    If #38 is "weak", what does that say about the schedules about EVERY Utah bowl team?

  • Rockwell Baltimore, MD
    Aug. 13, 2014 8:52 a.m.

    Flames6

    When was the last time Utah qualified for a bowl after playing a Top 40 SOS (per Sagarin)?

  • 2013 Ute Seniors SWEEP byU 4-0 Ogden, UT
    Aug. 13, 2014 10:19 a.m.

    Byu's quest for a big time bowl will end earlier than almost any team in the entire country, and earlier than any singe P5 team in the whole country.

    And then they'll have to pretend that they are playing for something meaningful with a horrible schedule remaining.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Aug. 13, 2014 10:34 a.m.

    @ WACpadding

    Very funny; nicely done.

    Prediction is easy; Beach Ball Bowl!

  • Jeff29 Draper, UT
    Aug. 13, 2014 11:19 a.m.

    @Flames6

    76.

    Does that somehow justify the Ute fans criticizing BYU for playing a "MWC" schedule this year when their major successes came against a "MWC" schedule?

    @Spokane Ute & @WACpadding

    Prediction definitely is easy, but I think the easiest prediction this year is where Utah will playing a bowl game. I'll take my Beach Ball Bowl; have fun with your Couch Potato Bowl.

  • WACPaddingOurSchedule pocatello, ID
    Aug. 13, 2014 11:23 a.m.

    Spokane Ute
    Spokane, WA
    @ WACpadding

    Very funny; nicely done.

    Prediction is easy; Beach Ball Bowl!

    ___________

    Exactly!

    Nothing like a prearranged bowl game. Even of they go 1-11. It will be a great season!

  • Jeff29 Draper, UT
    Aug. 13, 2014 11:28 a.m.

    @WACPaddingOurSchedule

    It's funny, all this time I thought your username was an attempt to mock BYU, but this morning I realized that it is really a celebration of the last time the U had a winning season.

    You need to be careful though because there are some people on this board who will criticize you for referring to anything that happened more than 10 years ago and I suspect that in the future you will have to look back a lot further than 10 years to reminisce about a winning season.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Aug. 13, 2014 11:43 a.m.

    Jeff

    Utah not playing in a bowl? Maybe, maybe not.

    BYU playing in the Beach Ball Bowl? Absolutely.

    My predcition in a given, yours is not! That's just the way it is.

  • phoenix Gilbert, AZ
    Aug. 13, 2014 1:13 p.m.

    Spokane Ute

    There's no such thing as the "Beach Ball Bowl", just as there's no such thing as a SOS trophy.

    Your prediction is nothing but a bunch of jealous whining, since your Utes aren't even good enough to qualify for a bowl anymore.

  • Kaladin Northern, CO
    Aug. 13, 2014 1:43 p.m.

    0-2 losses. Top 25 ranking. Taysom steps up big to roll into a huge season next year.

  • gchris rock springs, wy
    Aug. 13, 2014 2:27 p.m.

    Since no one, not even any of the trolls, has actually given a BYU prediction, let me be the first. BYU will go 11-1 or 10-2 and will provide fans, world-wide, a fantastic season. Taysom Hill and Jamaal Williams will gain national recognition and possibly Heisman consideration. Utah fans will continue be more interested in BYU's fortune's than their own as their team again fails to go to a bowl game--but, hey, Utah is in the Pac12 and that's all that really matters.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Aug. 13, 2014 3:26 p.m.

    @ Phoenix (aka talkinsports)

    I stand corrected; it is the Miami Beach Bowl vs. American Conference Winner

    That remains my prediction. Not sure what's "jealous" about that? I don't recall ever stating anything regarding SOS?

    Do you feel better now?

  • Jeff29 Draper, UT
    Aug. 13, 2014 3:36 p.m.

    @Spokane

    Actually, your prediction is not a given.

    BYU could run the table and be invited to a playoff bowl game. Not likely, but BYU probably has about the same shot at making it to a playoff bowl game as Utah has of making it to any bowl game.

    "That's just the way it is"

    It just seems really funny to me how Ute fans are making fun of the bowl game that BYU will likely go to when their team will likely not go to a bowl at all. I'm not really that good at trash talking, but I'm pretty sure that's not how it works...

  • truthsandwich The Bubble, UT
    Aug. 13, 2014 4:01 p.m.

    @phoenix

    " there's no such thing as a SOS trophy."

    Is there a "we got pounded in our bowl game when we had to play a legitimate team" trophy?

  • truthsandwich The Bubble, UT
    Aug. 13, 2014 4:30 p.m.

    @Uteanymous

    "BYU's 2013 #38 SOS was considered "weak" by the crimson-glasses wearers, yet the same hill crowd still beats their chests about Utah's 2004 and 2008 seasons with #67 and #56 SOS."

    You seem to have forgotten an important detail: Utah went undefeated in both 2004 and 2008. BYU went 8-5 last year. Your strawman that "BYU's #38 strength of schedule was considered weak" only works in that it's weak compared to the schedules Utah is playing now. Utah fans acknowledge that BYU put together a decent independent schedule last year, but they still failed to beat any ranked teams. In 2008 Utah beat 4 ranked teams, including 2 top ten teams.

    It's nice that BYU made it to a bowl game in 2013 by beating enough bad teams. When was the last time BYU beat 4 ranked teams on their way to a bowl?

    3?

    2?

  • xam Provo, UT
    Aug. 13, 2014 5:32 p.m.

    Jeff,

    I understand you are looking for objectivity from Ute fans regarding SOS. Here you go

    UTAH v. BYU
    2008 56 v 74
    2009 75 v 61
    2010 50 v 55
    2011 49 v 90
    2012 41 v 63
    2013 3 v 38
    2014 top 5 v top 90

    Utah has had a tougher SOS 6 of last 7 years.

    If you want more objectivity we can compare BYU 1984 (#103) to any year of Utah football, you pick.

    Seriously Jeff, when was the last time BYU even played 4 teams that finished the season ranked let alone beat 4 ranked teams. BYU has never even come close to the body of work of Utah's 2008 squad.

  • xam Provo, UT
    Aug. 13, 2014 5:38 p.m.

    truthsandwich,

    on the money

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    Aug. 13, 2014 5:50 p.m.

    @truthsandwich

    So I guess if Utah ever ever has a season with a SOS in the 50's we can expect them to go undefeated every time? Wow. The Utes are amazing.

  • xam Provo, UT
    Aug. 13, 2014 6:57 p.m.

    Riverton Cougar,

    Your missing the point.

    BYU fans like to mock 2008 for being a weak SOS, yet the Cougars haven't even come close to beating 4 ranked teams like Utah's 08 team did. In addition, your 1984 team had an SOS of #103. Yikes!

    BYU fans also rip Utah for not making bowl games over past 2 season so we point out the difference in SOS (Utah's has been tougher than BYU's over the last 5 years with no end in sight).

    The Utes aren't really that amazing Riverton Cougar, but amazing enough to own you.

  • utefever kaysville, UT
    Aug. 13, 2014 8:38 p.m.

    @ Jeff29

    Strength of Schedule is just one of many criteria to judge. Did you notice that the 2004 team blew out everyone, the closest game being a 14 pt victory over Air Force. We beat BYU by about 30 points that year so I am sure playing them lowered our SOS. BYU having a 38 SOS last year means nothing because you only played 5 respectable teams, Utah, Texas, Washington, Notre Dame and Wisconsin. You only beat 1 of them, Texas. That is where your program stands, 0-2 against the Pac 12 last year and 1-4 against decent teams. Beating up on MTSU and other cupcakes really shouldn't matter and losing to Virginia was laughable. You would have won 2 games with Utah's schedule last year and Utah would have won 10 games with your schedule. That is reality, sorry.

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    Aug. 13, 2014 9:07 p.m.

    "The Utes aren't really that amazing Riverton Cougar, but amazing enough to own you."

    Amazing enough to beat the Cougars in a single football game during the season, but not enough to impress the experts enough to actually rank them higher.

    "You would have won 2 games with Utah's schedule last year and Utah would have won 10 games with your schedule. That is reality, sorry."

    What is reality is that we don't know exactly how well they would have fared. Last year was the only year in the past 4 or 5 years that experts considered BYU and Utah to be neck and neck, so that indicator suggests they would probably have had similar results. In fact, if BYU had played their season over again they probably would have beat some teams they lost to and lost to some teams they had beaten. But that's all speculation.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    Aug. 13, 2014 9:22 p.m.

    Uteforever:
    "BYU having a 38 SOS last year means nothing because you only played 5 respectable teams, Utah, Texas, Washington, Notre Dame and Wisconsin."

    First off you are aware that a 38 SOS was better than Utah's SOS in 2012 right? BYU finished 8-5 against that schedule while U still went 5-7. I would say that "means something" and says a lot. As far as losing to the better teams on that schedule, isn't that Utah's problem also? Other than the fluke against Stanford what great, nationally ranked teams have U beaten? Answer: none. You've just shown why SOS for Utah means nothing either because U can't beat the best teams either. Listing Utah with those other programs as respectable is also presumptuous.

    "You would have won 2 games with Utah's schedule last year and Utah would have won 10 games with your schedule. That is reality, sorry."

    Reality or ute myopic dreaming? U couldn't win 10 games against a weaker schedule in 2012, what makes you think U would do any better with a stronger schedule? I think U and your friends have a different definition of reality than most people.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    Aug. 13, 2014 10:53 p.m.

    I have the utes down for 2 and possibly 3 wins with a stretch... They will only win one game in the big bad pac12 and thus maintain their pitiful showing in the conference. Assuming they get their standard one win against Colorado they will be 1-8 (an 11% win ratio)in conference for the year and 10-26 (a 27.8% win ratio)for their 4 years in the conference...

    While BYU is either Bowling with the elite or playing in South Florida with the AAC Champ we can most certainly plan on another holiday at home on the couch for the ute faithful... In fact, I would say that y'all should book that Chucky Cheese restaurant again for the second Saturday in December for the team's awards banquet to make sure that none of the Pop Warner or Boy's Club Teams reserve it before you do.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    Aug. 13, 2014 11:07 p.m.

    @truthsandwich

    Interesting that you should take shots at BYU for losing to a Washington Husky team for losing by 2 TDs when Utah was home munching on chips and spirits and attending boring Christmas Parties... It's particularly interesting given the fact that Utah has NEVER beaten Washington in Football... EVER... While BYU is 4-4 against them...

    Oh, and talking about being embarrassed in Bowl Games... How did y'all feel when Mid-Major Boise State beat y'all in a squeaker 26-3 (a 23 point facial)just 3 and a half years ago in Las Vegas? You should remember that... Y'all have only been to one bowl since.

  • xam Provo, UT
    Aug. 13, 2014 11:18 p.m.

    Riverton Cougar, I think 3-9 is the definition of ownership

  • xam Provo, UT
    Aug. 13, 2014 11:33 p.m.

    Cougdawg,

    Using your logic, the 2004 Utes (SOS 67) and 2008 Utes (SOS 56) were both better than the 1984 Cougars (SOS 103).

  • WACPaddingOurSchedule pocatello, ID
    Aug. 14, 2014 12:04 a.m.

    Jeff29
    Draper, UT
    @Spokane

    Actually, your prediction is not a given.

    BYU could run the table and be invited to a playoff bowl game. Not likely, but BYU probably has about the same shot at making it to a playoff bowl game as Utah has of making it to any bowl game.

    "That's just the way it is"

    It just seems really funny to me how Ute fans are making fun of the bowl game that BYU will likely go to when their team will likely not go to a bowl at all. I'm not really that good at trash talking, but I'm pretty sure that's not how it works...

    _____

    Apparently Jeff29 is not a fan of green jello pops. Would you prefer fried funeral potatoes on a stick served at LES?

  • Sparkley Briefs New York, NY
    Aug. 14, 2014 6:34 a.m.

    BYU fan mocking Utah's 2008 team is laughable. That team beat two top ten teams, was undefeated, finished #2, and won the Sugar Bowl! Think about how rediculous you sound saying that the Utes weren't great because their strength of schedule was weak. The bloody Sugar Bowl!!! Now go dredge up a bunch of meaningless "facts" that prove that the Cougs are better than the team that they consistently lose to on the field. As Knute Rockne used to say, "Gentlemen, let's go win one in the comment boards!"

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    Aug. 14, 2014 8:18 a.m.

    Fan Vote: Cougar Fans, let your predictions be heard! Comment here.

    Fan Vote: Ute Fans, let your predictions be heard! Comment here.*

    *Comment on BYU's article to have your predictions be heard by more BYU and Utah fans alike

    I bet that most WSU/Wazzu discussions take place on Wazzu boards. I bet that most OSU/Oregon discussions take place on Oregon boards. Likewise, most BYU/Utah discussions take place on _______ boards (fill in the blank).

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Aug. 14, 2014 10:36 a.m.

    @Riverton Cougar

    You seem awfully concerned with Utah fans voicing their view point. BYU fans do the same on Utah threads; it makes for interesting dialogue. I certainly haven't noticed anything in the comment rules regarding which fan base can comment on which articles? If you disagree with the Utah fans comments; simply ignore them. No need to monitor thread; the D News has that well in hand.

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    Aug. 14, 2014 10:48 a.m.

    @Spokane Ute,

    I'm not concerned about it, and I'm aware that BYU fans comment on Utah boards. It is part of the rivalry. I'm just pointing out that the discussions take place at the BYU boards more frequently, just as Wazzu/WSU comments tend to Wazzu boards and OSU/Oregon comments to Oregon boards.

    I'm glad BYU is relevant enough to be such a hot topic for people all around the US.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Aug. 14, 2014 11:03 a.m.

    @Riverton Cougar

    Fair enough Guy. These comments are comparable to the WSU/Wash comments on the Seattle Times board; or Seahawks/49ers boards. It's rivaly that at times goes too far; and many take too serious. I don't know about BYU being relavent for people all around the US; but I do know the Mormon faith has far reaching boundries. I'm sure many have grown up in Utah (I grew up in Riverton) like my self and moved else where; but still follow their team and the rivalry. Thanks for the civil response and by all means; Have a good day!

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    Aug. 14, 2014 11:20 a.m.

    Xam:
    "Cougdawg,

    Using your logic, the 2004 Utes (SOS 67) and 2008 Utes (SOS 56) were both better than the 1984 Cougars (SOS 103)."

    Nope. That wasn't my logic...you replaced it with YOUR logic. My logic suggested that just because Utah has a stronger SOS doesn't mean Utah would win more games against BYUs SOS. I used the example of BYU having a stronger SOS in '13 than the Utes did in '12 and still winning more games (8) than Utah did against a weaker SOS (5). I never suggested that certain undefeated teams were better based on their SOS (there's also no positive or negative differential to assess this with teams that weren't beaten). If you're going to "use(ing) (my) logic" at least make sure it's actually mine and not assumptions or inferences you made.

  • UU Provo, UT
    Aug. 14, 2014 12:15 p.m.

    Cougdawg said, "you are aware that a 38 SOS was better than Utah's SOS in 2012 right? BYU finished 8-5 against that schedule while U still went 5-7. I would say that "means something" and says a lot"

    Hmmm cougdog looks like you're tripping all over yourself here, would you also say then that 2004 (#67) and 2008 (#56) vs. 1984 (#103) means something and says a lot?

    What does your 2012/2013 example mean and say vs. my 2004 & 2008 vs. 1984 example mean and say???

  • 2BCSWINS West of I15, UT
    Aug. 14, 2014 2:20 p.m.

    @Jeff29/rockwell and other cougie fans with the SOS talk

    LOL is all I can say about that

    On the first page of comments so far cougies have refferred to Utah's 2008 SOS and the cougies 2013 number 38 SOS

    Only difference is Utah actually beat the top ranked teams on that schedule. The cougies as usual lost to the top teams on their schedules.

    Rockwell/uteanymous....As I hear you refer to all the time would you like a trophy for that number 38 SOS in 2013....It sure didn't help you get a win against any top ranked team thats for sure........LOL

  • U West of I15, UT
    Aug. 14, 2014 2:28 p.m.

    @RivertonCougie...."Amazing enough to beat the Cougars in a single football game during the season, but not enough to impress the experts enough to actually rank them higher."

    LOL.....We can't beat them on the field in an actual football game but hey were better....thanks for the laugh

  • NightOwlAmerica SALEM, OR
    Aug. 14, 2014 2:37 p.m.

    Riverton Cougar
    Riverton, UT said:

    "Fan Vote: Cougar Fans, let your predictions be heard! Comment here.

    Fan Vote: Ute Fans, let your predictions be heard! Comment here.*

    *Comment on BYU's article to have your predictions be heard by more BYU and Utah fans alike

    I bet that most WSU/Wazzu discussions take place on Wazzu boards. I bet that most OSU/Oregon discussions take place on Oregon boards. Likewise, most BYU/Utah discussions take place on _______ boards (fill in the blank)."

    As someone that lives in Pacific Northwest PAC 12 territory, I can tell you that is not true. They post on each others boards.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    Aug. 14, 2014 3:44 p.m.

    UU/Xam:
    So you don't understand logic and therefore decide to attribute it to me "tripping all over (my)self"? Classic.

    Ok let's simplify. BYU played the 38th SOS in 2013 and finished with 8 wins and went to a bowl game. We constantly hear Utah fans claiming that if Utah had that schedule they would have won more...10 games according to uteforever. I said, ok well Utah had the 41st SOS in 2012 and still only won 5 games and didn't go to a bowl game. So with similar SOS BYU was more successful than Utah.

    Now the same comparison can't be made between teams that had differences in SOS but were undefeated. In other words, just because Utah 2008 played a tougher schedule and went undefeated, doesn't mean they were better than BYU 1984. There's no way to tell if BYU 1984 would not have had similar success because they weren't given the chance against a 56th SOS like Utah. And lets not forget that 2008 Utah nearly lost to 3-9 Michigan, 4-8 New Mexico, and 7-5 AFA.

  • redthunder Ogden, UT
    Aug. 14, 2014 3:57 p.m.

    @ Riverton Coug

    Not here to troll but WSU and Wazzu are the same team...I think you mean UW?

    Cheers!

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    Aug. 15, 2014 1:51 p.m.

    @NightOwl,

    "As someone that lives in Pacific Northwest PAC 12 territory, I can tell you that is not true. They post on each others boards."

    I didn't say they didn't post on each others boards; I said that I bet that most of the discussions take place on Washington's and Oregon's boards. That certainly seems to be the case on ESPN.

    @redthunder,

    yes, I am talking Washington (UW) vs. Washington State (WSU). And for further clarification I meant Oregon State when I said OSU, not Ohio State.

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    Aug. 15, 2014 2:00 p.m.

    These SOS debate are always entertaining. FWIW, high SOS has resulted in nearly identical results for BYU and Utah over the last 25 years.

    Highest ranked SOS in the last 25 years with results (I'm using sports-reference for SOS ranks because their database goes back that far).

    BYU
    56, 1999 (8-4, L in Motor City Bowl, 1st in MWC)
    48, 1991 (8-3-2, T in Holiday Bowl, 1st in WAC)
    47, 1993 (6-6, L in Holiday Bowl, 1st in WAC)
    34, 1992 (8-5, L in Aloha Bowl, 1st in WAC)
    33, 2013 (8-5, L in Fight Hunger Bowl, n/a)
    28, 2003 (4-8, no bowl, 3rd in MWC)
    12, 2004 (5-6, no bowl, 3rd in MWC)

    Utah
    65, 2011 (8-5, W Sun Bowl, 4th in PAC12)
    64, 2001 (8-4, W Las Vegas Bowl, 2nd in MWC)
    61, 2010 (10-3, L Las Vegas Bowl, 2nd in MWC)
    60, 1992 (6-6, L Copper Bowl, 5th in WAC)
    57, 2007 (9-4, W Poinsettia Bowl, 3rd in MWC)
    36, 2012 (5-7, no bowl, 9th in PAC12)
    1, 2013 (5-7, no bowl, 10th in PAC12)

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    Aug. 15, 2014 6:01 p.m.

    Even with all of their integrated scheduling breaks, byu loses the vast majority of their meaningful games. They've literally never, ever experienced a back to back weekly grind.

    Case-in-point--

    byu had all off-season to prepare for Uva -- L, bye-weeks previous to The U/Wisc [both of which were coming off of grueling conference games] -- Ls, Idaho State prior to Nd -- L, weeks to prepare for a Uw team minus all of its primary coaches -- L [Destroyed, in fact]....Lol.

  • redthunder Ogden, UT
    Aug. 16, 2014 1:10 p.m.

    @Riverton

    Oh you meant Oregon State? I thought you were referring to Ottawa State University. That makes SO much more sense now!!!