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New poll shows Love 12 points ahead of Owens in 4th District

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  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    Aug. 11, 2014 12:34 p.m.

    Too bad neither is a good option

  • Red San Antonia, TX
    Aug. 11, 2014 12:59 p.m.

    Just don't become part of the problem!

    Be a public servant. We need someone who cares more about America than their ego.

    Thanks!

  • lket Bluffdale, UT
    Aug. 11, 2014 1:08 p.m.

    time to move out of utah.

  • OHBU Columbus, OH
    Aug. 11, 2014 1:10 p.m.

    Love's policy and positions are a disaster waiting to happen. Stated another way, she's very likely to win the election. Get ready for another Utahn spouting nonsense on a constant basis, on the model of Sen. Lee and Rep. Chaffetz.

  • The Reader Layton, UT
    Aug. 11, 2014 1:17 p.m.

    It would be nice if she was ahead because if some substance instead of the 'R' in front of the name.

  • SharpHooks Lake Sammamish, WA
    Aug. 11, 2014 1:23 p.m.

    She's qualified, at least for Utah. She has a degree in Musical Theater.

  • FatherOfFour WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    Aug. 11, 2014 1:33 p.m.

    She will win because of three main reasons:

    1. She is republican in Utah.
    2. The Heritage Foundation, ALEC, the Sutherland Institute, the Club for Growth, Americans for Prosperity, and the Eagle Forum will flood her campaign with more money than anyone could ever hope to compete against.
    3. She has an R after her name.

  • Billy Bob Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 11, 2014 1:47 p.m.

    FatherOfFour,

    I am not arguing that those things will help her win, but aren't your 1st and 3rd points a little redundant? Also I seem to remember 2 years ago she lost to someone with a D after his name, and I think she had your 2nd point going for her last time too. She will win, and your 3 (actually 2) points will help her. But in her district those things are not the absolutely only things needed to win. I think in this case she actually is the better of the two candidates to represent Utah. And thus she will, and should, win.

  • The Rock Federal Way, WA
    Aug. 11, 2014 1:54 p.m.

    If Mia will be spouting nonsense, then the founding fathers did the same. The comments here show just how far some people have slipped away from the founding principles of this nation.
    The principles that Mia and others like her espouse are the same principles that made this nation the greatest, most prosperous nation on earth.

    She does have radical ides: Ideas like our government ought to obey the constitution that they have sworn up uphold and defend.
    How about this radical idea: The government should stop seizing the property of one man and give it to another (ie, let people keep the fruits of their labors).
    Maybe we should get really radical and pass a balanced budget amendment that requires a super majority to borrow money and specifies specific reasons that congress can borrow?

    The alternative is national bankruptcy and the loss of our freedom.

  • 1conservative WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    Aug. 11, 2014 1:55 p.m.

    Yes, its' true Barack Obama does cause people to lose elections.

    Most democrats have no one but Barack Obama to blame for losing their elections in 2014.

  • Jeff Harris Edmonds, WA
    Aug. 11, 2014 2:02 p.m.

    The poll results is a triumph of gerrymandering. Splitting liberal Salt Lake among Utah's four congressional districts will almost always result big wins for local theocrats.

  • 1978 Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 11, 2014 2:04 p.m.

    The first seven comments are comical. It must be frustrating being upset at Utah and their Republican domination which has led to being one of the only states with a AAA bond rating and the second lowest unemployment rate in the country.

    And before you comment - Utah also has a higher per capita income than the National average. I don't vote based on party I vote based on results and it appears that a majority of Utahns do the same.

  • Cletus from Coalville Coalville, UT
    Aug. 11, 2014 2:19 p.m.

    Owen's policy and positions are a disaster waiting to happen. Stated another way, he's very likely to continue the big government ideals of Barack Obama. Get ready for another liberal spouting nonsense on a constant basis, on the model of Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi.

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Aug. 11, 2014 2:23 p.m.

    Mia Love is a solid conservative, with proven experience as a Mayor, which is a lot better qualification than being the child of a former Congressman.

    Mia Love favors hard work, responsibility and limited government. Those are traditional Republican values. These used to be traditional Democrat values as well, before they morphed into the party of big government, tax and spend, nanny-state and "free stuff." We have seen how the "new" Democrat values have destroyed our country, so we should all be eager to get Mia Love to Congress to help fix our problems.

    Ironically, in any other situation, our Democrat friends would be claiming that anyone not willing to vote for Mia Love must be a racist. Republicans do not judge candidates by the color of their skin, but the content of their character.

    I will be proud to have Mia Love represent Utah in Congress!

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    Aug. 11, 2014 2:51 p.m.

    Love will win for three reasons:
    1. She's LDS.
    2. She's Republican.
    3. She's black.

    It's ironic: In 2008 and 2012, black people voted for Obama because he was black. In 2014, white people will vote for Love because she's black.

  • mufasta American Fork, UT
    Aug. 11, 2014 2:52 p.m.

    Great Job Mia. You have my support.

  • Jeff Harris Edmonds, WA
    Aug. 11, 2014 3:01 p.m.

    1978, you are entitled to your own beliefs, not your own facts.

    Utah has the thirty-ninth highest per capita income in the USA, $18,185. Utah's personal per capita income was $24,977. (Source: 2010 United States Census Data and the 2006-2010 American Community Survey 5-Year Estimates)

    In 2010, the per capita income of the USA was $39,791.

    Utah's per capita income is well below the national average.

  • procuradorfiscal Tooele, UT
    Aug. 11, 2014 3:51 p.m.

    Re: "Get ready for another Utahn spouting nonsense on a constant basis, on the model of Sen. Lee and Rep. Chaffetz."

    I'm ready. Bring it on. The more the better.

    It's a situation clearly superior to Utahns spouting genuine Democrat nonsense on a constant basis, on the model of Matheson, Pelosi, Reid, and Obama.

    Here's hoping that, once elected [and, she will definitely be elected], Mia can avoid the orbit of the Republican establishment, and truly represent the views of the real people that elect her.

  • micawber Centerville, UT
    Aug. 11, 2014 3:59 p.m.

    I don't know Mia Love, but I know Doug Owens. He is very intelligent and has a quick grasp of issues. He is politically moderate; when I have spoken to him about issues, his primary concern is how to help middle class families. He demonstrated his commitment to his own family by taking leave from his law practice for two years to be with his children while his wife completed her medical training in pediatrics.

  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    Aug. 11, 2014 4:02 p.m.

    @Brave - you seem sure of it but she's lost in the past, to a white democrat. I have no idea Matheson's religious affiliation.

    I think either candidate is a poor choice yet here we are, stuck.

  • MaxPower Eagle Mountain, UT
    Aug. 11, 2014 4:18 p.m.

    @1 conservative
    Yes, its' true Barack Obama does cause people to lose elections.

    Most democrats have no one but Barack Obama to blame for losing their elections in 2014.
    ---------------------------

    Um... Jim Matheson -D won in 2012 with Mitt Romney on the ticket! Will Obama cause some to lose elections? Without a doubt. A second term president generally does his party no favors in a midterm a la George Bush in 2006.

    But still... With Obama...Matheson still won, in Utah, with a Romney ticket against him. That means people had to vote something other than straight ticket to vote for him.

  • dalefarr South Jordan, Utah
    Aug. 11, 2014 4:28 p.m.

    Mia is a poor candidate, but at least she lives in the district she will represent. The democrats should field a candidate who knows and lives in the district. There has to be a qualified democrat somewhere in the 4th district.

  • There You Go Again Saint George, UT
    Aug. 11, 2014 4:36 p.m.

    "...I'm not sure they understand where I stand on issues they care about...".

    Does it matter?

    Rest assured, Utah's next Republican Congressperson making $175,000 + benefits annually, it does not matter, at all, what you think or what plans you have for your two year stint in DC.

    Just remember to...

    Vote no on everything proposed by a Democrat.

    Facilitate Utah's status as an ATM for the Republican Party.

    Do as many photo-ops as possible (only with Republicans, of course)

    Do as many FOX/Republican Network News interviews as possible.

    Begin running for 2016 as soon as you're elected.

    No problem...even an ex-major of Saratoga Springs, Utah could do it.

  • 1978 Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 11, 2014 5:13 p.m.

    @Jeff Harris

    I should have stated household income instead of per capita income - my mistake. Since Utah has a younger population i.e. more children at home it lowers the per capita income number.

    Utah does have a higher household income than the national average and even than your home state of Washington:

    Utah $60,681
    Washington $60,304
    National Average $55,030

    Sources: U.S. Census Bureau, 2011 and 2012 American Community Surveys, 2011 and 2012

    It only took me a minute to google this information and get the facts.

  • The Real Maverick Orem, UT
    Aug. 11, 2014 5:28 p.m.

    Do we need another Chaffetz/Lee in office?

    The Mia Love cheerleaders need to provide us with specific reasons why Mia should get our vote. And please, don't talk about big government or spending. We all know that the GOP doesn't cut down on spending or government unless it means cutting safety nets. They love deficits and massive government intrusion as much as anyone.

  • procuradorfiscal Tooele, UT
    Aug. 11, 2014 5:45 p.m.

    Re: "Utah's per capita income is well below the national average."

    Yeah, so? Now let's talk figures that actually mean something:

    Utah median family income -- $57,049
    US national median family income -- $51,371

    Even this figure is skewed downward some, since Utah is in the higher percentiles of both family size and single-earner families. But, the fact that my son, his homemaker wife, and my 5 little grandkids each get the same $18K share of their Dad's income, makes per capita measures virtually meaningless, for comparison purposes.

    Utah is actually, by any standard, in pretty good shape. So, the Democrat victimization ploy just doesn't work very well here. Here's hoping Mia will join Jason and Mike in implementing those measures necessary to keep the federal government's jackboot heel off our necks, so real people, real Utahns can maintain that status.

    If radical Utah Democrats insist that Doug incorporate the trite, hackneyed, disingenuous Pelosi/Reid/Matheson/Democrat ride-to-the-rescue, victimization thing into his campaign strategy, he'll show he's out-of-touch with Utah, and he'll lose by way more than 12 points.

  • Shimlau SAINT GEORGE, UT
    Aug. 11, 2014 5:54 p.m.

    let the fun begin!!!

  • A1994 Centerville, UT
    Aug. 11, 2014 9:54 p.m.

    Of course she is winning and will win. The Democrats stink to high heaven...nationally. The border is burning down. Iraq is burning down. A whole lot of leadership is needed and President Obama is in Martha's Vineyard golfing. (185th time during his presidency.) Having said that and being fairly conservative in my political views nationally, we MUST have a house cleaning here in Utah. I think Jim Matheson should run for Governor. The GOP in Utah is rotten and rotting. It's time for new blood.

  • kranny utah, UT
    Aug. 11, 2014 9:59 p.m.

    Obama, too, claimed he would help the middle class American, which I am, and my income has been cut by half since the ACA has been failingly implemented, which will continue to fail like every other federal government contrived and run program, i.e. SS, medicare, including part D, etc, because you couldn't run a lemonade stand on the same principles D.C. is trying to run this country.
    Thomas Jefferson said it best: If we can but keep the government from wasting the labors of the people, under the pretense of taking care of them, we will be a happy people.

  • Fred44 Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 12, 2014 6:31 p.m.

    The weakness of this candidate is that she is only up 12. In the reddest of red states where with a democratic president who is getting more unpopular with everyone every day how can she only be up 12. In a gerrymandered district like this one, she should be up twenty at least.

  • Counter Intelligence Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 13, 2014 7:57 a.m.

    @There You Go Again





    So what you are basically saying is that Republicans are evil when they behave no differently than Democrats do in predominantly Democratic districts?



    I should pay heed to that criticism why?


    @Brave Sir Robin

    The only thing that is ironic is that critics of Love will not be labeled "racist" in the same dishonest way that "tolerant people" attack critics of Obama as being racist.

  • Herbert Gravy Salinas, CA
    Aug. 13, 2014 10:35 a.m.

    Please send Mia Love to Congress. This is a time that cries for another voice of reason to be heard in Washington, D. C.

  • Bored to the point of THIS! Ogden, UT
    Aug. 13, 2014 2:54 p.m.

    A Republican in Utah ONLY 12 points ahead... this is a 'dog fight' by Utah standards. Good luck to the Democrat, you know 'what's their name'....

  • Something to think about Ogden, UT
    Aug. 13, 2014 2:58 p.m.

    Love is up only 12 points in one of the most gerrymandered conservative republican districts in the entire country! With the typical margin of error...??

    Even if she wins, it shows the doubt the voters have in her abilities to make a real difference.

  • CityCreek Provo, UT
    Aug. 13, 2014 3:08 p.m.

    Ironically, a vote for Mia Love is a vote for Nancy Pelosi. The more polarized we become as a nation, the more voters make the mistake of trying to fight extremism with more extremism. The results have been disastrous. Utah has only 4/435 voices in determining which party controls Congress and history shows that no party dominates forever. But Utah's voice increases when we consider that the person we vote for will have a stronger voice in their own party's leadership. Less moderate Democrats in office mean that when the Democrats inevitably control the House again, the far-left will rule. Our voting patterns have basically turned our country over to the far left half of the time. Similarly, even if Republicans do control the House again, Mia Love and Mike Lee will try to shut down the government by opposing their own party’s budget.

    I will vote for Reagan Republicans and Orton-Owens-Matheson Democrats. But I will not support Mia Love/Tea Party Republicans any more than I would vote for an extreme liberal.

  • Democrat Provo, UT
    Aug. 13, 2014 3:22 p.m.

    BTW, I was not saying that Love and Pelosi were equivalents. What I mean is that a literal vote for Mia Love means more chances that a liberal will be the next Democratic leader.
    Jim Matheson didn’t vote for Pelosi after 2010 or 2012. The more Blue Dogs we lose to tea-partiers the more we can guarantee that both parties will be crazier and crazier. The point is, Utah needs moderate representation in both parties. If someone like Mike Leavitt or Norm Bangerter was running on the GOP side I might support them. But Tea Partiers just want to shut down the government and make a statement. I will support Doug Owens because he lives Utah values and isn’t a bomb thrower.

  • raybies Layton, UT
    Aug. 14, 2014 9:30 a.m.

    Love conquers all.

  • Rikitikitavi Cardston, Alberta
    Aug. 14, 2014 6:29 p.m.

    let's never forget, reality dictates that a vote for ANY democrat is a vote for Obama, Reid, and Pelosi. Need I say more?

  • VIDAR Murray, UT
    Aug. 15, 2014 4:50 p.m.

    #1 reason Mia Love will win: she does not have to go against Jim Matheson.
    #2 reason Mia love will win: the republican party has gerrymandered the election for her.

  • Sven Morgan, UT
    Aug. 15, 2014 10:16 p.m.

    SharpHooks said:

    "She's qualified, at least for Utah. She has a degree in Musical Theater."

    And Obama was a Community Agitator...your point?

  • Jimmytheliberal Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 16, 2014 12:02 p.m.

    @Sven...Obama has two Ivy League Degrees. None of which are in musical theater.