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Looking ahead: What will legislator Valentine's departure mean for alcohol laws?

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  • Larry Chandler CEDAR CITY, UT
    Aug. 9, 2014 3:25 p.m.

    Why the need to distinguish a restaurant from a bar? A bar should also be required to have food available if a patron wanted it (perhaps just a hot plate and a freezer full of burgers). A restaurant cannot force someone to eat the food he orders, so requiring it to be ordered would not promote temperance. A person who goes to a restaurant just to drink can still do so, though it will cost a bit more for the food they won't touch.

  • mcdugall Murray, UT
    Aug. 9, 2014 4:09 p.m.

    I think it is extremely insulting to the overwhelmingly responsible Utah's to suggest that the "Zion Curtain" is the primary reason for Utah's lower than average alcoholic consumption and alcohol related vehicle accidents. Rather than suggest the continued existence of these silly walls, we should be congratulating ourselves for our responsible decisions we continue to make.

  • pleblian salt lake city, utah
    Aug. 9, 2014 5:09 p.m.

    Statistics regarding Utah's "envious" alcohol safety should be controlled for the variable that 60% of the state does not imbibe. That may have more to do with our lower incidence of alcohol related issues...maybe?

    Thus, if our numbers are better than %60 better PER CAPITA of drinking citizen compared to drinking citizens in other states, Zion Curtain and other oddities may be validated.

    Alas, that is not the case.

  • a lone voice Cedar City, UT
    Aug. 9, 2014 6:43 p.m.

    Hopefully his departure will lead to more independent thinking in the Legislature.
    Hopefully more members of that body will read the Doctrine and Covenants, especially sec. 134 v.9 which states "We do not believe it just to mingle religious influence with civil government"

  • MonitorTheGovernment Midvale, UT
    Aug. 9, 2014 6:53 p.m.

    Senator Valentine is what I like to call a "Big Government Conservative." Sure he's a Republican, but he seems to care little about government encroaching into people's personal lives. Utah is a little more free now that Senator Valentine is no longer in the state senate.

  • Lyn52 Saint George, UT
    Aug. 10, 2014 7:31 a.m.

    The so called Zion curtain serves no purpose other then to make Valentine feel good. Hopefully with him leaving the senate Utah will now grow up and join the rest of the nation with more liberal liquor laws, maybe even going to far as to get the state out of the liquor business!

  • Independent Thinker West Jordan, UT
    Aug. 10, 2014 10:07 a.m.

    The thrust of this article deals with Senator Valentine's impact on state liquor laws. The more relevant issue is when we retain politicians in office for long periods, they gain disproportionate power and influence over lawmaking activities. I believe the politics of power have turned our state and nation into something other than what is desired by the silent majority.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Aug. 10, 2014 10:08 a.m.

    It's been said pretty well here. It's disingenuous to trot out all these stats about Utah when everyone knows it's not government policy that causes them. It's worse to use them to further micromeddle and impose government further into peoples' lives, all the while singing the praises of smaller government. The king is gone, but the kingmaker lives on, as will the hypocritical status quo.

  • Lia Sandy, UT
    Aug. 10, 2014 11:31 a.m.

    What will happen is that the laws might start to creep out of the Stone Age and begin a turn to normalcy.

  • The Educator South Jordan , UT
    Aug. 10, 2014 2:29 p.m.

    It's hilarious that conservatives constantly demean government at every opportunity but at the same time pat themselves on the back for our low alcohol deaths. As if their legislation had anything to do with it.