Such a non issue. So the man had a beer! Who cares? The government is more than
happy to accept 18 year olds enlisting into the military and putting their lives
on the line but heaven forbid they have an adult beverage. Don't beat
yourself up over it Travis. More importantly, just stay healthy this season.
Please. Go Utes!
redthunderSo by your definition, a crime is only a crime if you
happen to agree with the law.Is that really the message you want
your team leader sending to the rest of his team?
I'm a lifelong Ute and lifelong Mormon who agrees its a non-issue, and I
thought it was a non-issue when Williams from BYU was caught doing the same.
Its none of my business if either of those guys has a drink before different
sets of rules state they should. They don't owe me or anyone else an
apology and I wish fans of both sides would leave both of them alone on this
Glad to see nothing was made of this.Some might try and criticize
the school and Wilson for getting only a slap on the wrist here, but it's
not because Travis really deserves more punishment.It was a very
minor mistake... basically the same as if Travis would've been cited for
speeding.No further action was warranted.
Issue resolved. Let's move on.This will be a break out year
for Wilson!Go Utes!!
As long as Travis didn't drink and drive it's a lesser issue
potentially. However, if alcohol consumption is followed by driving under the
influence this may place many persons at risk for serious injury and/or death.
Drinking alcohol is a very serious concern if it is not properly managed. As
one who has a couple of alcoholics in the family, I have witnessed first hand
the profound negative consequences that can occur. In the case of one family
member, he started with just "a beer" and it grew into just a lot of
beers and a serious addiction. After several DUI's, jail time and
thousands of dollars in fines and other consequences, I can tell you having a
beer is something that should be carefully cared about. That said, I hope
Travis learned a valuable lesson and acts responsibly going forward. I wish him
a successful season as the Utes Quarterback. Go Cougars!
No it wasn't a "non issue" so don't try to pretend it was. But
it was a minor issue and I'm sure whittingham addressed it appropriately.
But trying to minimize it to the level of a speeding ticket makes a poster look
clueless. it is actually a misdemeanor whereas a speeding ticket is an
infraction so they are not the same thing at all. A speeding ticket is not a
crime, underage possession and consumption are crimes. So if you
want to say it was "minor" I'll agree, if you want to claim it is
"non issue" then you are simply showing your crimson clouded assessment
RedThunder, Life long UteActually it is an issue because the media
is making it so. Wilson made a choice to drink a beer at a concert knowing full
well he was under age and breaking the law. He also knows full well he is a
celebrity and therefore held to a higher standard by default. Travis handled it
well with the media and professionally with KW - internally. In the
end, Just like Jamaal Williams, Travis is a much better person for owning up to
the choice he made and he learned in a public way that choices have
consequences. For me, it's not the beer or the law but rather
the choice and the accountability. Go Travis! Go Jamaal!
Very, very Minor, take from some one who knows; . . . a Bingham Miner!Such a non-issue. At least in 49 states.
Lifelong Ute and lifelong Mormon: The difference is the BYU Honor Code which
Williams willingly signed and pledged to abide by. It called, "holding
someone accountable" in case you don't know. This will build character
in this young man, and he has expressed as much. The Utes are not held to the
same high standard, so it is no big deal for the Wilson incident. 'Nuff
phoenixI never said it wasn't a crime. I said it was a non
issue. Should it be reported whenever a student athlete gets a speeding ticket
or a parking citation? So please don't put words in my mouth.
Let's just play some football
BYUalum,In case you weren't aware, underage drinking is against
the law. If you want to get all preachy about holding people accountable, then
people can actually be held accountable even for things they didn't sign up
for - like the law. Travis broke the law even if he didn't sign anything
saying he was going to obey the law. But its a given at most colleges that the
rules include not breaking the law.In both Williams and Travis case,
the law breaking was over something insignificant. So no harm done either one.
The fact that Williams said "I wont break the byu law" doenst change
anything - unless you're suggesting people hold be held accountable to laws
they've promised and signed to obey.In which case - I can break
any law I want since I've never signed anything saying I wont break the
law? Good try buddy.
And like I said, I don't like byu fans getting after Travis. And I
likewise didn't like the many utan fans getting after Williams.I have no reason or justification to demand Williams be punished, and neither
did any other Utah fan that brought it up. And I don't here for TRavis
either.I wish Utes had acted differently when it happened to
Williams and I wish cougars acted differently now.
The real crime here is that he was at a Tim McGraw concert. Shame on you
I think both Wilson & Williams owned up to the mistakes they made and showed
great maturity and class given the situation. I hope both learned something from
it. I agree with some others that we as fans need to back off and look at the
big picture. Both of these guys are good football players but also good
upstanding men as well. Like Wilson said, it wasn't like him to do what he
did. He owned it, showed remorse, and will move forward. I suggest fans do the
@Lifelong UteAmen@BYU AlumA big boo from
where I sit in the comment section. What I am reading from you falls in that
category (grey area) where some people (me here) get real turned off from what
sounds pretty uppity.
Re: BYUalumRead the Williams article. His undearage drinking was
one the issues. It said there was another issue, which we don't know.Maybe the other issue is why he got suspended.
I do like how travis owned up to it. I don't like the word
"mistake" in a case like this, it wasn't a mistake, it was a choice
but I realize that is splitting hairs. The fact is he owned up to it and
say's he'll never do it again and that is good enough for me. Unless
there is some punishment coming that will need to be reported this should
probably be the last thing we need to read on it.
I'm pretty sure Travis wasn't the only minor that was drinking at the
@DuckhunterI agree with you. I got a chuckle from part of your
comment (you seemed semi-serious). Talking sins of omission vs. sins of
commission relative to Travis Wilson's use of vocabulary is digging to deep
based his usual language patterns. You know what I mean? I don't think
Travis searches too hard for words to match any given context when answering
media questions. It's the usual "I just need to" and "we just
gotta make sure" ect...That said, since I was talking about
digging deep; I submit Travis does do that on the field. He has had injuries and
setbacks the last couple of seasons but his toughness and heart on the field is
all there. I hope as Ute fan that he can grasp the offense under Christensen and
have a breakout year. I do cringe at Wilson's comments
sometimes as put emphasis on vocabulary. He's not Talmage, but
Wilson's instincts and decision making on the field just might be good
enough to lead the Utes. After all, we had a Hall of Famer around these parts
who wasn't splitting atoms. KaMalone gotta do what KaMalone gotta do.
"It was obviously something that was a mistake but his leadership is very
good"Huh? K Whitt just contradicted himself in a single
Sorry Duck, but a 20 year old college student having a beer at a concert is a
"non-issue". Yes, technically we have tens of thousands of
"criminals" throughout the United States at every college campus,
including BYU but there's no serious redemption required on his part. He
made a mistake, apologized and is ready to move on.
Seriously? We're arguing semantics here? Can a person's conscious
decision to take an action still not be a mistake? And, aren't most
"minor" issues "non-issues" in reality? Digging deep to come up
with something negative about the situation, don't you think?FWIW - the article on Jamaal indicates that there was an event or action AFTER
the underage drinking incident which caused the one game suspension. To me that
indicates that absent the subsequent action/event, Jamaal would not have been
suspended. I, personally, would not criticize Jamaal in the least for the
suspension. I respect the kid for being a stand up guy and taking
responsibility head on, unlike the kid from Arizona who chose to leave the team
rather than take accept the consequences of his actions.Let's
move past this on both these kids.Good luck to Jamaal, I hope he has
a great career.I look forward to watching Travis grow as a player
and as a leader.Go Utes!!
Sorry stringy but if it was a "non issue" he wouldn't have been
cited, whittingham wouldn't have had to "handle it internally", nor
would there be any press with wilson making a public apology. I do enjoy how you
and vegasute just couldn't accept my opinion that it was a "minor"
issue, not a "non issue" and that by all accounts it was handled well by
wilson and whittingham and this is the last we need to hear of it but that is
what happens when I reside so firmly and permanently in both of your heads. lol
Guess BYU isn't the only college player to have their hands slapped! Go
Two For FlinchingSalt Lake City, UT"The real crime here is
that he was at a Tim McGraw concert. Shame on you Travis."Best
comment I've seen on here in a long time. My day just got a lot happier.
Thanks for the laugh!
I think the U has handled this perfectly. As a BYU fan I normally like seeing
the U go through public embarrassment. However, this really is a very
insignificant issue. A suspension wouldn't have been warranted. Travis has
learned a very valuable lesson. He now understands that he is in fact a marked
man and EVERYTHING he does will be publicized. Wilson won't lose sleep over
this. Just a little bump in the road, he'll be fine.
This is a sad day for Wilson's parents and they will lose sleep over this.
Parents know the dangers of trivializing a serious situation. Here a
few stats taken from a study done in 2009: 1,825 students lost their lives due
to alcohol related injuries; 696,000 students were assaulted by another student
who was drinking; 25% of all college students report academic problems directed
related to drinking; 400,000 students reported they had unprotected sex while
under the influence and 100,000 did not remember if there was consent by either
party; 3,360,000 students drove while under the influence.It is
unlikely that Wilson will be another statistic but he made a choice that could
in the long run be more damaging then the medical condition he fought so hard to
beat last year. He is already part of the 110,000 that will be cited for an
alcohol related offense.Other Universities require students cited
for underage drinking to take a course on alcohol risk. Utah and all other Utah
Universities (including BYU) should do the same.