The best thing to him getting caught was that they made someone else drive his
car home. If he had not been cited then he would have been driving drunk, which
at the U gets swept under the rug as well. Remember the last U QB that was
arrested for DUI. Whitt made that disappear really quick.
Interesting that this has now happened for star players for both Utah and
byU.Not very smart to be drinking in public Travis. Wait til you
get home!Go UTES!
Re: Max. . . I missed the part of the article that listed Wilson's blood
alcohol level. Looks like the charge is simply underage drinking, not DUI or
Public Intoxication. If you have some inside information to support your claim
that Wilson's blood alcohol level exceeded Utah's limit please feel
free to share it.Unlike BYU's Kyle Van Noy or Shiloah
Teo's actual DUI charge Wilson's transgression looks more like BYU
football players Brent Pollock or Brian McDonald's alcohol possession
What concert was it ?
@maxYou are quick to judge the U and how, in your words, "Whitt
made that disappear really quick." What about Kyle Van Noy? He, too, was
cited for this same offense. How is this different than Wilson's? Is it
because Van Noy played at BYU and Wilson plays at Utah?It's
very interesting how the BYU faithful like you are quick to pounce on a Utah
athlete who has made a poor decision, yet when it is a BYU athlete, your fan
base hushes it up.Typical hypocrisy from you guys.
This is news?
Who cares! This law is absurd and Utah is just about the only state where cops
will actually give a Jr in college a citation for under age drinking. If a
person is old enough to die for their country or go to college they should be
old enough to buy a beer for heaven's sake.The drinking age
should be 18 or 19 and everyone knows it. Just as a frame of reference in
Germany people can buy a beer when they are 14.
@Sammy,Big 12 call yet? Maybe that's why Jammal Williams was
drinking - to try and forget that no conference thinks you are power conference
At least he wasn't drunk during the Holy War last year.The opposing
QB (or should we say RB that plays QB) had 30 incomplete passes in one game.
Maybe he will use the "I didn't know how old I was" excuse like
Justin Thomas, a ute recruit from 2011 used after it was discovered he was too
old for high school football(and after transcripts had been forged in attempt to
try and play high school football his senior year). Just an option
C'mon Travis. If you are gonna lead the team, you need to be smarter than
Kyle wont suspend him, so we'll be ok. Just don't get caught next
@Max-was-right: How do you know if he was drunk? How do you know he had his car
at the concert? How do you know what type of alcohol and how much he had
swallowed? Making comments like you did without knowledge of the facts is
disturbing to me.
@Max-was-right: Your comment about Travis DUI is completely false. He was not
arrested for DUI. Whitt has never "swept" anything under the rug as you
claim. Whitt has always been truthful and forthright in dealing with his
Great reason to sit him a few games to see if a back up is an option.I hate stupid actions...Travis, this was stupid..
Queue the street celebrations and fireworks in happy valley! lol.
This article really surprised me. Not that a Utah football player got slapped
with an MIP, but rather that a veteran QB....was STILL under 21.Max-was-lying:"The best thing to him getting caught was that
they made someone else drive his car home."I missed the part in
the article that stated Travis even drove to the concert. How do you know he
didn't ride up with somebody else?
batman, the only heinous criminal act is that it was a Tim McGraw concert.
@maxJust like your namesake you launch on a class-less tirade that only
serves to make you look clueless and petty. I'm sure you already wish
you had that one back.
This shouldn't be a problem for Wilson, since the Ute "Core Values"
are against DUIs, not drinking illegally. Although, getting caught does kind of
go against the spirit of the Ute "Core Values."
As much as I would love to mock Travis and the utes for this incident
(especially after how much the ute fans mocked Jamaal Williams for his
incident), my belief is that Travis is still a good kid who simply made a
mistake.I think a punishment is in order for Wilson, but I
don't think it needs to be huge. Jamaal had to resolve the issue with
Bronco, but no suspension was made. I'm sure he had some community service
or something like that to do.I believe that something like that
would be appropriate for Travis. Just like Kyle Van Noy, Cody Hoffman, or
Jamaal, Travis is a good kid who got into an alcohol related incident.I'm not going to mock him. I just want to see him clean it up and try his
best not to do it again.
Gosh what a surprise... In Provo that would land him on the outside of the
program looking in... In uteville it gets him a pat on the back with a
coach's suggestions on what to do to make sure that he doesn't get
caught next time...I love my Cougars and the Honor Code... It goes
far beyond Football and what one is able to get away with over the next couple
of years and prepares them for a life of responsibility and dependability.
@GoRedSummer 2014 issue of BYU Magazine, page 15:"During a recruiting visit, KVN opened up to Mendenhall. "He
didn't hide anything," Mendenhall says. "He was sincere and
truthful. He just said, 'I've done this. I struggle with that.'
He was very blunt." In all his years of coaching, Mendenhall couldn't
recall such candor in a student-athlete. The point was reinforced when KVN got
in trouble with the law just weeks after accepting a scholarship to play for
BYU. Due to KVN's juvenile status at the time of his arrest, the incident
went unreported. No one at BYU was aware of it until KVN flew to Utah
specifically to tell his coach. Surprised to see KVN in his doorway, Mendenhall
knew there was trouble when he saw tears in KVN's eyes. "Let me help
you," Mendenhall told him. KVN was convinced his mistake would cost him his
scholarship. Still, he told his coach about his run-in with the law following a
late-night party back home. [...] Working with Mendenhall and the university,
he agreed to a one-year probation and joined the Cougars for his first summer
camp in 2010."That's the difference.
Here's one of the many things that bug me about BYU fans: The scriptures
teach us much about the need for mercy and justice for those who sin. But it
seems like whenever a BYU player breaks the law, BYU fans are all about mercy
(Spencer Hadley). But when a Utah player breaks the law, BYU fans are all about
justice (Paris Warren). Why is that?
Bad analogy sirrobin... BYU fans were updet with Hadley and in fact believed
that he deserved the punishment that he got (I think that he had to miss 3 or 4
games in his Senior Year)...The part that didn't go down well
in Cougarville was the fact that it appeared that someone in uteville blew the
whistle and they just happened to blow it right before the BYU-Utah game... That
was the problem.
BYU ignored when the same thing happened to Jamal Williams a few months ago.I would imagine Utah will talk with Wilson, but no punishment.
Wow dumb move. Cant say I never drank before I was 21, but I wasn't a
highly recognizable QB. Not a good thing but it wasn't a DUI or a sexual
assault. Move on and don't drink in public until you are of legal age.
Brave Sir Robin - so there are what, one or two comments from BYU fans
suggesting that there should be some punishment affixed to this situation - 1 or
2!And your comment is exactly what makes me dislike many, many Utah
fans. You have taken your perception of the comments of one or two and applied
it to a whole fan base.My suspicion is that the vast majority of BYU
fans simply don't care.Do you know how hypocritical you
Furthermore, if you want to see individuals clamouring for justice, go read the
comments about the Van Noy, Hadley or Williams run in with the law. The abuse
that BYU and these three BYU players took from Utah fans is much more than what
you are seeing here from a couple of BYU fans.Again, your hypocrisy
Blue AZ Cougar - recognizing the inherent differences between BYU, a
religious-based institution and public schools such as Utah (and not implying
that good things don't happen at public schools as well, though that is how
I am sure many Utes will interpret it), this is exactly what I love about BYU
and Coach Mendenhall.Great comment!
@byronbca,Just because college drinking is rampant across the nation
is no reason to not enforce the law here. Rather, other states should follow
Utah's lead. The NIH reports the following consequences of drinking each
year: Death: 1,825 college students between the ages of 18 and 24
die each year from alcohol-related unintentional injuries. Assault:
More than 690,000 students between the ages of 18 and 24 are assaulted by
another student who has been drinking. Sexual Abuse: More than
97,000 students between the ages of 18 and 24 are victims of alcohol-related
sexual assault or date rape. Injury: 599,000 students between the
ages of 18 and 24 receive unintentional injuries while under the influence of
alcohol. Academic Problems: About 25 percent of college students
report academic consequences of their drinking including missing class, falling
behind, doing poorly on exams or papers, and receiving lower grades overall. Health Problems/Suicide Attempts: More than 150,000 students develop an
alcohol-related health problem and between 1.2 and 1.5 percent of students
indicate that they tried to commit suicide within the past year due to drinking
or drug use.
timid sparrowWhere in the scriptures (chapter and verse) does it say
to sweep everything under the rug and pretend that nobody ever does anything
This will be a badge of honor in uteville.
That wasn't classy.
Brave Sir Robin:Because everyone who claims to believe in scripture pick
and choose which ones to believe and which ones to ignore.
Poly an: "In Provo that would land him on the outside of the program looking
in... In uteville it gets him a pat on the back with a coach's suggestions
on what to do to make sure that he doesn't get caught next time... I love
my Cougars and the Honor Code... It goes far beyond Football and what one is
able to get away with over the next couple of years and prepares them for a life
of responsibility and dependability."Having graduated from BYU,
and being very familiar with what goes on among athletes, I must apologize for
the arrogance of the above comment.It very well could be that the
difference between athletes at the U versus those at the Y is the former are
less practiced at hiding it and faking it, whereas the latter have a long and
glorious tradition of hiding and faking things.The stories I could
This is funny.
Poyboy: "In Provo that would land him on the outside of the
program looking in."I must have missed it; how far is Jamaal
Williams currently on the outside of the byu program looking in? The hypocrisy
in your statement is unreal. Like Jamaal, KVN, Spencer Hadley, Travis made a
mistake. But like those byu players just mentioned, none of them landed 'on
the outside looking in.' This really is none of our collective business,
but Travis will be fine in overcoming this setback.
Kids make mistakes, and this certainly qualifies as one. Hopefully Travis
learns from this and gets his head on straight before the season starts
Some have suggested BYU sweeps player infractions under the rug, if anything BYU
seems to err on the opposition extreme, they have until recently announced honor
code infractions (albeit they don't disclose the specific infraction). I
always feel so bad for the player who is forced to wear the scarlet letter
(Brandon Davies, Harvey Unga, Spencer Hadley) and their mistakes are shouted
from the roof tops. BYU is held to such a high standard and any slip up gets
people yelling hypocrite! So in a way (even though I don't agree with
broadcasting athlete's personal failings) it was refreshing to see a Ute
player being scrutinized for questionable behavior.
chicken pigeon"Why is that?" Well you already know the
reason and your little post just goes to show why.This isn't
about mercy and justice. It's about hypocrisy but you already knew that.Whit will just slap his wrists and there will be little to nothing done.
Kind of like that kid that failed three drug tests and still stayed on the team.
A minor problem that missing a few games will fix.But as someone
already said this was not a DUI, a 'Core Value' violation.But a high profile QB? This kid is the cornerstone of the team, the voice, the
ambassador, the leader.A fine example of stupidity and the timing
was impeccable. Way to go Travis.
I Love how Uber-classy Chris B is quick to loop in some reference to a BYU
player of the past to divert attention.Who cares, I would drink also if my
team couldn't get into a bowl game....
Taysom4You are a very right minded individual.Kids from
both schools make mistakes, period. I'm disappointed that
Travis would be this careless, he's supposed to a team leader, and team
leaders don't do that. As for all the garbage going back and
forth, football just can't get here fast enough.
Under age drinking at the U is like Ice Cream eating at BYU. There is no honor
code at the U and team rules are pretty lax when it comes to this offense.Too bad for Travis but, I suppose that the punishment will be a few
extra sprints or missing part of the Idaho State game.This should be a serious
offense but is just isn't dealt with the way it should be.At
most schools this just isn't a big deal. Under age drinking is a serious
problem in this country. Luckily Travis didn't get behind the wheel of a
automobile. Could have been much worse. Probably will receive a slap on the
wrist and a stern talking to.
BTW. . . Wilson will be 21 in December 2014. 4 months short of 21, he'll
be legal by the time any court deals w/ this. What a waste of public money.
To BYU fans that are throwing stones:Travis Wilson was cited for
underage drinking.Jamaal Williams was arrested for underage
@Brave Sir Robin"Here's one of the many things that bug me
about BYU fans: The scriptures teach us much about the need for mercy and
justice for those who sin. But it seems like whenever a BYU player breaks the
law, BYU fans are all about mercy (Spencer Hadley). But when a Utah player
breaks the law, BYU fans are all about justice (Paris Warren). Why is
that?"Please read the first comment I made on this article and
then tell me again that BYU fans only want justice for utah players who break
the rules. I think Travis deserves a mild punishment, but no suspension, as long
as he is truly sorry for what he did and intends to never do it again.Here's one of the many things that bug me about some (not all) utah fans:
They take a ridiculous comment from one or two BYU fans and assume that the
entire fan base acts that way. Yes, there are BYU fans who want mercy for BYU
players and justice for utes. But there are many (like myself) who aren't
that way at all. Your comment is prejudiced and generalizes BYU fans
@JoCo Ute"BTW. . . Wilson will be 21 in December 2014. 4 months
short of 21, he'll be legal by the time any court deals w/ this. What a
waste of public money."It doesn't work that way at all. If
you get caught drinking under 21, then you are accused as drinking underage even
if you go to court after your 21st birthday.If you drive by yourself
as a 15-year old but then go to traffic court after you get your license, they
won't let it slide.Having said that, the article stated that
Wilson was released at the scene, so I'm not sure if he will end up going
to court at all.
Y-Ask-Y?I commend you for your frankness. Whatever punishment is
incurred on Travis, I doubt that it would be more severe on a byu player. Go
Utes. Go Travis.
@ Max was wrongAnd you know this how? Your assumptions are not fair.
College kids are going to drink. It happens everywhere, even at BYU.
I attended a party or two in Provo back in the early 90's that had a few
football players (no names given) that consumed adult sodas. We also have seen
recently that a few BYU players have been caught drinking as well. Don't
forget a certain star now playing in the NFL who had this same temporary issue.
He rebounded successfully and we can only hope kids learn from these
mistakes/sins. Better yet, we can all hope (wishful thinking) that this stuff
just won't happen. But it does and it will. Nevertheless, casting stones by
fans of the red or the blue when relative foes find themselves in trouble is
petty. Travis Wilson has some explaining to do. I think he is a good
kid. he has been through a lot in the last year. He has handled himself well and
I have faith he will grow up more and bounce back from this. Still, he has some
explaining to do.
@ Brave Sir RobinNice take. Your question at the end: "Why is
that?" It's the unfortunate judgmental factor in effect.
@asky...I don't need you apologizing for me... so get over
that... If you feel the need to be the official spokesman for BYU fans that
don't comment in a way you like or approve of, make sure you leave me off
that list. If I need apologizing I'll either do it myself or ask someone to
do it for me who has a smidgeon of grace in their commentary.@condescending wonka...I don't think any of us know what
happened with the situation concerning Jamaal Williams... We know he was
charged... We know that he pled non-guilty... and we know that Mendenhall was
fine with the situation after talking with Williams and investigating the
matter. If you know something more, please bring me up to speed.Here's what I do know though... Hadley had to miss 3 or 4 games for his
actions; Van Noy had to sit out a year; Loyd ended up transferring to a Division
II school in Basketball; and another starting guard (his name escapes me know)
was dismissed and did not return to the program... I would say that that
qualifies for being on the outside looking in...
@BalanI understand your problem with some Ute comments here. And I
agree that there ARE NOT many malicious comments from BYU fans, although a few
contain some troubling elements to them for me. Also, it does cut
both ways. When Chris B. or a few others go overboard, they don't speak for
all Ute fans. It's equally as common for those relative individuals to
comment on other articles and incite harshness in return from the blue. This is
just part of the bad blood rivalry element that won't go away rather Utah
and BYU play one another or not.
@Blue AZ Cougar (and Max)So, what you're saying is that since
Van Noy "repented" and took a year off before playing for BYU, that made
what he did okay. Really? Maybe the better example that I should
have pointed out was Jamaal Williams, arguably BYU's best player. On
February 16 of this year Williams was arrested for under-age drinking. Yet he
has not been kicked off the team. Why? Where is the outrage from BYU fans
about this, especially from Max? As I said in my previous post, your fan base
is notorious for piling on any player from the U if it involves things against
BYU's own self-imposed Honor Code. Yet, when someone like Jamaal Williams
is found guilty of this, you guys are very quiet about this. Again,
it reeks with hypocrisy.
@Riley Mendenhall,Good point. Travis' infraction was smaller
1) he was breaking the law, 2) he was probably breaking team rules which
probably include not embarrassing the university of Utah by breaking the law.
Jamal Williams 1) was breaking his contract with the school (honor
code) not to drink PERIOD regardless of age 2) breaking the law, 3) breaking
team rules, if he were a member of the LDS church we would also be breaking his
covenants, so not nearly as bad as the Spencer Hadley case, but more severe
infraction than Travis Wilson due to the honor code contract. My
question in both these cases is where we're the teammates, that are
supposed to be wingmen to help their friends not make dumb choices? In the case
of Travis to encourage him to wait until legal age and in the case of Jamal to
help him understand drinking is not allowed at all and support him in abstaining
until he is no longer under honor code contract. Neither Travis nor Jamal was
being a team player by their selfish act, but where were their teammates? Could
these poor choices have been avoided with better support & accountability
A junior in college drinking at a country concert...wow, now there's some
news.A junior in college drinking in public in a state that is nutty
about drinking at all, stupid..probably not, careless yea. Punishment from Whitt...dude what we're you thinking? Now go to the
weight room (if Travis had a "drinking problem" they would certainly
know it by now.).
sammyg's reactions to the exact same scenarios:Utah
player-"A fine example of stupidity and the timing was impeccable. Way to go Travis.9:56 p.m. July 26, 2014"BYU
player-"Much ado about nothing.9:07 p.m. March 25, 2014"
"I don't think any of us know what happened with the situation
concerning Jamaal Williams... "But you obviously know enough of
this situation less than 24 hours after the story broke to pass judgment on what
will happen to him?
That's why we have the best players because they are way cool.Go Utes!
It don't matter because we are in a prestegous conference.Go
@Go Red"As I said in my previous post, your fan base is
notorious for piling on any player from the U if it involves things against
BYU's own self-imposed Honor Code."As I said in my previous
post, please read my first comment and tell me again that BYU's fan base,
as a whole, piles on when a ute makes a mistake.You are taking a few
comments and generalizing them for our whole fan base. I bet the majority of BYU
fans do not want to see Travis be punished very heavily. I don't want to
see him miss any game action at all.The problem is, most of those
fans aren't going to come on this comment board and say that. I am among
the minority in that regard. Most of the BYU fans who took the time to comment
on this article are the ones who want to mock Travis and the utes.So
it is skewed data. Kinda like when they say that most shark bites happen within
20 feet from shore. That's where all the people are, so that's where
it will happen.
re East Coast UteAgreed. All country & rap music s/b outlawed.
Why did I just read all this? Let's go play some ball!
Oh my Gosh! A college student drinking alcohol? I'm shocked. Absolutely
Probably not a big deal and I highly doubt any punishment will be coming down
from whittingham, but the righteous indignation from utah "fans" is
pretty funny. lol
The incident is way overblown, and most of the comments in this reader section
are as well. Would be nice if fans on both sides quit jumping for
joy at every minor mishap of players on the opposing team. Stupid criticism,
and even worse, impotent -- if that's the best (or should I say worst) they
can come up with. Grow up, people, and find something worthwhile to talk about.
BalanSouth Jordan, UtahFurthermore, if you want to see individuals
clamouring for justice, go read the comments about the Van Noy, Hadley or
Williams run in with the law. The abuse that BYU and these three BYU players
took from Utah fans is much more than what you are seeing here from a couple of
BYU fans.Again, your hypocrisy is deafening.----------Nope. Utah fans don't say "we're all about
forgiveness and second chances" and then pile on when a BYU player gets in
trouble.We are consistent with our expectations. A player gets in
trouble, they should probably be punished in some fashion.
BalanSouth Jordan, Utah this is exactly what I love about BYU
and Coach Mendenhall.------This is exactly why I thank
my lucky stars that Utah is not like BYU.I want my coach focused on
football first, not firesidss.
Ernest T. BassBountiful, UTBrave Sir Robin:Because everyone
who claims to believe in scripture pick and choose which ones to believe and
which ones to ignore.----------Best comment on the
Taysom4HeismanHeber City, UT@JoCo Ute"BTW. . .
Wilson will be 21 in December 2014. 4 months short of 21, he'll be legal by
the time any court deals w/ this. What a waste of public money."It doesn't work that way at all. If you get caught drinking under 21,
then you are accused as drinking underage even if you go to court after your
21st birthday.---------I don't think that's
what he was suggesting... as much as he was illustrating what a waste of money
it is to prosecute someone for underage drinking when they are basically of
age... 20 years 8 months.Realizing this, the officer should've
given him a warning or nothing.
What's the big deal? This is normal behavior at the U. I seriously doubt
the coaches will take any action on this. He IS still the starting QB.
east coast uteNice try... but the situations are different and you
know that.I don't condone drinking, doing drugs, etc. but
obviously because of the differences between civil and religious schools we have
an apple and oranges situation... but you knew that too.You can bet
that I will come down hard on those that have leadership roles. Travis is a
leader which makes his situation somewhat unique. Role models shouldn't do
stupid things. It can cause problems in the ranks.I rather doubt
that Travis went to his coach with sack cloth and ashes but just a simple guilty
conscience for getting caught and wondering what kind of minor discipline and
flack this will generate.When a BYU player is in this position we
can be assured that they have the 'fear of God' in them not knowing if
they will lose their scholarship, be kicked out of school for an Honor Code
violation, a huge dose of humility, embarrassment, countless comments from
haters and supporters, a bright media spotlight, and the list goes on.It's obvious the easier road is to be a Ute.
@tomahawkredSo should a person be given a pass if they almost come
to a stop at a stop sign? Personally I think the drinking age should
be lower but it isn't and wilson broke the law so no he shouldn't have
been given a warning or let off with no repercussions from the law. I also got
one of those tickets as a 20 year old and I deserved to get it, I broke the law.
wilson did the crime, he deserved the ticket.He did get off lightly
as the cops could have hauled him into jail and booked him if they so desired,
instead they just gave him a ticket which he'll have to pay and let him go
on his merry way. Seems more than a reasonable response to me the unreasonable
thing to do would have been to let him get away with it.
Sorry, samg. The supposed 'differences' you cite do nothing to
distinguish your distinctly hypocritical reactions. But, the attempt
SammyG: Actually, when looking at the BYU football schedule, the
easier road is clearly taken by the Cougs.
@ DuckhunterI have a similar story. I got an MIP a month before my
21st. It was frustrating, but it's the price you pay for breaking the law.
I agree that the cops were fair in this situation. Travis will be
fine, although his wallet is going to take a hit.
Not thinking about the consequence is his mistake and I do hope that he will
face up to it and remedy it immediately. Playing Football while going to school
seems good enough reason not to burn opportune education bridges.
@2ferYea it's fair and in the long run it is really not that
big of a deal. I'm sure whittigham will address it with him but I doubt
there will be any strict repercussions, at least not publicly. Life will go on.
And so it begins...............The difference between BYU and the u is
that BYU does not cover it up or sweep it under the rug. They take action. Whit
will do nothing. It's funny that two universities that are so close can
have such differing views of civil and moral laws. Just saying.
Difference is that he will now be a hero in the eyes of ute fans. Drinking doe not seem to be an issue for ute fans as you can buy beer at RES
and then throw it on BYU players as they come out of the tunnel. My have things
changed since Brigham Young established u of u.
Stupid mistake by a college kid. Hopefully he learns from it and moves on so it
doesn't destroy his career.
A ute player breaks a law, and BYU gets mocked.Like politics.
Every mistake by the commander, and George Bush get ridiculed.
LOL where do Gone under and worf come up with this stuff?!
Really, not smart of Travis, hope he learns a lesson. Really, Y fans, our kids
have had their fair share of indiscretions, no need to get all righteous on this
@ Ute busterYou can't buy beer, or any alcoholic beverage for
that matter, at RES or anywhere on Utah's campus.
@ Sammy GI'm sure Wilson will recover from Sammy G coming down
hard on him. Too funny!
@Ute buster"Difference is that he will now be a hero in the eyes of
ute fans. "There's a difference between people thinking
it's not a big deal, and thinking it's a good thing to do.
Only from Utah County is this even a story. Let the byU faithful discuss the
arrest of their #1 RB coming into this season before they start judging TW or
the U. Wilson was not intoxicated, he was ticketed for underage drinking.
Jamaal Williams was arrested with a blood alcohol content well in excess of
legal intoxication. I am not judging Jamaal Williams in any manner, I am just
saying that this happens with kids - even at byU!!Live and learn.Go Utes!!
poyman:"it appeared that someone in uteville blew the
whistle"News flash for Utah County - perception is NOT reality!
No one knows, and will probably never know, who actually "blew the
whistle" on Hadley. You can speculate all you want about who might have and
who might not have, but there is absolutely no evidence it was a Utah fan or a
byU fan or an upset ex-girlfriend or whoever.But thanks for coming
on to a Utah article and pushing an old agenda that has not merit.
2 fer_Then where does the beer come from in RES? and please don't
tell me it doesn't happen there since I have personally seen it happen.Please tell me it is not smuggled in. That would be too funny.Admit it,
the u has lost their way when it comes to standards of yesteryear.They
have adjusted very well to the new morality prevalent in our country.Brigham Young would be so proud.
Schnee,DO you really think that ute fans know the difference? Wrong is
wrong or are we twisting standards now?
"DO you really think that ute fans know the difference? Wrong is wrong or
are we twisting standards now?"Very strong statement. Obviously,
the commenter has his ducks all in a row.Go Utes. Go Travis.
GO-RED... Van Noy was indeed ticketed with a DUI... but was punished big time
because of it. KVN was suspended from the team and had to sit out a year... and
during that year KVN had to prove himself truly repentant. His return to the
team after a year was never automatic. Bronco only accepted Van Noy back into
the fold when he showed humility in true remorse, and the desire to live the
honor code to the letter... which he did with class. Will Wilson
have to do anything like that... sit out a year, and prove his standards have
been raised? I doubt it. He will probably face no penalty whatsoever, or at
the most sit out the biggeee against Idaho State.
The fact that there are almost 100 comments on this story is the same reason we
wait in traffic for 30 minutes to get by a fender bender on the side of the
road...far too much rubber-necking going on.In both instances,
we'd all be better off keeping focused on what we need to do and trust the
professionals in charge will do the right thing.That's what I
choose to do.
My question is why is a young man that is coming back from a major health scare
drinking at all? I think that should be a concern to all the Utah faithful!!!
Seems to me he is acting with in pared judgement!!! I agree with other posters
and wonder why not even a U fan had his back and was watching for their
"GO-RED... Van Noy was indeed ticketed with a DUI... but was punished big
time because of it. KVN was suspended from the team and had to sit out a year...
and during that year KVN had to prove himself truly repentant. His return to the
team after a year was never automatic. Bronco only accepted Van Noy back into
the fold when he showed humility in true remorse, and the desire to live the
honor code to the letter... which he did with class. Will Wilson
have to do anything like that... sit out a year, and prove his standards have
been raised? I doubt it. He will probably face no penalty whatsoever, or at the
most sit out the biggeee against Idaho State."Are you really
attempting to equate Travis' citation with van noy's dui? You
seriously can't make this stuff up.
AZUTE1Everybody knows that this is just another incident that will
be swept under the rug by Whittingham, just like he did Blechen's multiple
failed drug tests, and the other drug and alcohol related incidents up on the
@ Down underI've known some people to sneak in liquor, because
it's easy to conceal. Nobody sneaks in beer because it's almost
impossible to conceal and it's even harder to keep it cold. But like I
said, you can't purchase it inside the stadium, or anywhere on campus.
@GoRedWhat about Kyle Van Noy? He, too, was cited for this same offense-------------Kyle sat out an entire season because of his
incident. What are the chances that Whitt makes Travis sit out an entire year?!
The chances of that are about the same as for the utes winning more than 4 games
this year. Zip. Zilch. Nada. Not gonna happen.You should think rants
through a little before hitting the send button. The KVN issue has been pretty
well documented by now and would've been easy to find out.
@EastCoastUtebatman, the only heinous criminal act is that it was a Tim
McGraw concert.------------Nice post. That's
probably the thing he was most worried about getting out in the press! Very
Renocoug asked?My question is why is a young man that is coming back
from a major health scare drinking at all? -----Because he's a
normal college student? For those of us 21 and over, alchol is legal and enjoyed
by many in 49 states.