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  • Max-was-right springville, UT
    July 26, 2014 2:31 p.m.

    The best thing to him getting caught was that they made someone else drive his car home. If he had not been cited then he would have been driving drunk, which at the U gets swept under the rug as well. Remember the last U QB that was arrested for DUI. Whitt made that disappear really quick.

  • Christopher B Ogden, UT
    July 26, 2014 2:32 p.m.

    Interesting that this has now happened for star players for both Utah and byU.

    Not very smart to be drinking in public Travis. Wait til you get home!

    Go UTES!

  • JoCo Ute Grants Pass, OR
    July 26, 2014 3:07 p.m.

    Re: Max. . . I missed the part of the article that listed Wilson's blood alcohol level. Looks like the charge is simply underage drinking, not DUI or Public Intoxication. If you have some inside information to support your claim that Wilson's blood alcohol level exceeded Utah's limit please feel free to share it.

    Unlike BYU's Kyle Van Noy or Shiloah Teo's actual DUI charge Wilson's transgression looks more like BYU football players Brent Pollock or Brian McDonald's alcohol possession charges.

  • nananana batman saint george, UT
    July 26, 2014 3:07 p.m.

    What concert was it ?

  • GoRed WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    July 26, 2014 3:12 p.m.

    @max

    You are quick to judge the U and how, in your words, "Whitt made that disappear really quick." What about Kyle Van Noy? He, too, was cited for this same offense. How is this different than Wilson's? Is it because Van Noy played at BYU and Wilson plays at Utah?

    It's very interesting how the BYU faithful like you are quick to pounce on a Utah athlete who has made a poor decision, yet when it is a BYU athlete, your fan base hushes it up.

    Typical hypocrisy from you guys.

  • The Real Maverick Orem, UT
    July 26, 2014 3:12 p.m.

    This is news?

  • byronbca Salt Lake City, UT
    July 26, 2014 3:42 p.m.

    Who cares! This law is absurd and Utah is just about the only state where cops will actually give a Jr in college a citation for under age drinking. If a person is old enough to die for their country or go to college they should be old enough to buy a beer for heaven's sake.

    The drinking age should be 18 or 19 and everyone knows it. Just as a frame of reference in Germany people can buy a beer when they are 14.

  • Christopher B Ogden, UT
    July 26, 2014 3:45 p.m.

    @Sammy,

    Big 12 call yet? Maybe that's why Jammal Williams was drinking - to try and forget that no conference thinks you are power conference quality.

  • Uncle Rico Provo, UT
    July 26, 2014 3:47 p.m.

    At least he wasn't drunk during the Holy War last year.
    The opposing QB (or should we say RB that plays QB) had 30 incomplete passes in one game.

  • Sports Are Great Salt Lake City, UT
    July 26, 2014 3:50 p.m.

    Maybe he will use the "I didn't know how old I was" excuse like Justin Thomas, a ute recruit from 2011 used after it was discovered he was too old for high school football(and after transcripts had been forged in attempt to try and play high school football his senior year).

    Just an option

  • Utah'95 FPO, AE
    July 26, 2014 3:56 p.m.

    C'mon Travis. If you are gonna lead the team, you need to be smarter than that!

  • Lifelong Ute Salt Lake City, UT
    July 26, 2014 4:09 p.m.

    Kyle wont suspend him, so we'll be ok. Just don't get caught next time!

  • positivethinker Magna, UT
    July 26, 2014 5:01 p.m.

    @Max-was-right: How do you know if he was drunk? How do you know he had his car at the concert? How do you know what type of alcohol and how much he had swallowed? Making comments like you did without knowledge of the facts is disturbing to me.

  • positivethinker Magna, UT
    July 26, 2014 5:08 p.m.

    @Max-was-right: Your comment about Travis DUI is completely false. He was not arrested for DUI. Whitt has never "swept" anything under the rug as you claim. Whitt has always been truthful and forthright in dealing with his players.

  • Hey Baby Franklin, IN
    July 26, 2014 5:26 p.m.

    Great reason to sit him a few games to see if a back up is an option.

    I hate stupid actions...Travis, this was stupid..

  • ekute Layton, UT
    July 26, 2014 5:33 p.m.

    Queue the street celebrations and fireworks in happy valley! lol.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    July 26, 2014 5:40 p.m.

    This article really surprised me. Not that a Utah football player got slapped with an MIP, but rather that a veteran QB....was STILL under 21.

    Max-was-lying:

    "The best thing to him getting caught was that they made someone else drive his car home."

    I missed the part in the article that stated Travis even drove to the concert. How do you know he didn't ride up with somebody else?

  • East Coast Ute Storrs, CT
    July 26, 2014 5:41 p.m.

    batman, the only heinous criminal act is that it was a Tim McGraw concert.

  • Proud Ute ,
    July 26, 2014 5:46 p.m.

    @max
    Just like your namesake you launch on a class-less tirade that only serves to make you look clueless and petty.
    I'm sure you already wish you had that one back.

  • Bastiatarian TUCSON, AZ
    July 26, 2014 6:08 p.m.

    This shouldn't be a problem for Wilson, since the Ute "Core Values" are against DUIs, not drinking illegally. Although, getting caught does kind of go against the spirit of the Ute "Core Values."

  • Taysom4Heisman Heber City, UT
    July 26, 2014 6:43 p.m.

    As much as I would love to mock Travis and the utes for this incident (especially after how much the ute fans mocked Jamaal Williams for his incident), my belief is that Travis is still a good kid who simply made a mistake.

    I think a punishment is in order for Wilson, but I don't think it needs to be huge. Jamaal had to resolve the issue with Bronco, but no suspension was made. I'm sure he had some community service or something like that to do.

    I believe that something like that would be appropriate for Travis. Just like Kyle Van Noy, Cody Hoffman, or Jamaal, Travis is a good kid who got into an alcohol related incident.

    I'm not going to mock him. I just want to see him clean it up and try his best not to do it again.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    July 26, 2014 6:57 p.m.

    Gosh what a surprise... In Provo that would land him on the outside of the program looking in... In uteville it gets him a pat on the back with a coach's suggestions on what to do to make sure that he doesn't get caught next time...

    I love my Cougars and the Honor Code... It goes far beyond Football and what one is able to get away with over the next couple of years and prepares them for a life of responsibility and dependability.

  • Blue AZ Cougar Chandler, AZ
    July 26, 2014 6:59 p.m.

    @GoRed

    Summer 2014 issue of BYU Magazine, page 15:

    "During a recruiting visit, KVN opened up to Mendenhall. "He didn't hide anything," Mendenhall says. "He was sincere and truthful. He just said, 'I've done this. I struggle with that.' He was very blunt." In all his years of coaching, Mendenhall couldn't recall such candor in a student-athlete. The point was reinforced when KVN got in trouble with the law just weeks after accepting a scholarship to play for BYU. Due to KVN's juvenile status at the time of his arrest, the incident went unreported. No one at BYU was aware of it until KVN flew to Utah specifically to tell his coach. Surprised to see KVN in his doorway, Mendenhall knew there was trouble when he saw tears in KVN's eyes. "Let me help you," Mendenhall told him. KVN was convinced his mistake would cost him his scholarship. Still, he told his coach about his run-in with the law following a late-night party back home. [...] Working with Mendenhall and the university, he agreed to a one-year probation and joined the Cougars for his first summer camp in 2010."

    That's the difference.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    July 26, 2014 7:00 p.m.

    Here's one of the many things that bug me about BYU fans: The scriptures teach us much about the need for mercy and justice for those who sin. But it seems like whenever a BYU player breaks the law, BYU fans are all about mercy (Spencer Hadley). But when a Utah player breaks the law, BYU fans are all about justice (Paris Warren). Why is that?

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    July 26, 2014 7:12 p.m.

    Bad analogy sirrobin... BYU fans were updet with Hadley and in fact believed that he deserved the punishment that he got (I think that he had to miss 3 or 4 games in his Senior Year)...

    The part that didn't go down well in Cougarville was the fact that it appeared that someone in uteville blew the whistle and they just happened to blow it right before the BYU-Utah game... That was the problem.

  • Uncle Rico Provo, UT
    July 26, 2014 7:14 p.m.

    BYU ignored when the same thing happened to Jamal Williams a few months ago.
    I would imagine Utah will talk with Wilson, but no punishment.

  • CO Ute PARKER, CO
    July 26, 2014 7:15 p.m.

    Wow dumb move. Cant say I never drank before I was 21, but I wasn't a highly recognizable QB. Not a good thing but it wasn't a DUI or a sexual assault. Move on and don't drink in public until you are of legal age.

  • Balan South Jordan, Utah
    July 26, 2014 7:34 p.m.

    Brave Sir Robin - so there are what, one or two comments from BYU fans suggesting that there should be some punishment affixed to this situation - 1 or 2!

    And your comment is exactly what makes me dislike many, many Utah fans. You have taken your perception of the comments of one or two and applied it to a whole fan base.

    My suspicion is that the vast majority of BYU fans simply don't care.

    Do you know how hypocritical you sound???

  • Balan South Jordan, Utah
    July 26, 2014 7:43 p.m.

    Furthermore, if you want to see individuals clamouring for justice, go read the comments about the Van Noy, Hadley or Williams run in with the law. The abuse that BYU and these three BYU players took from Utah fans is much more than what you are seeing here from a couple of BYU fans.

    Again, your hypocrisy is deafening.

  • Balan South Jordan, Utah
    July 26, 2014 7:46 p.m.

    Blue AZ Cougar - recognizing the inherent differences between BYU, a religious-based institution and public schools such as Utah (and not implying that good things don't happen at public schools as well, though that is how I am sure many Utes will interpret it), this is exactly what I love about BYU and Coach Mendenhall.

    Great comment!

  • Phil Allred New Rochelle, NY
    July 26, 2014 7:48 p.m.

    @byronbca,

    Just because college drinking is rampant across the nation is no reason to not enforce the law here. Rather, other states should follow Utah's lead. The NIH reports the following consequences of drinking each year:

    Death: 1,825 college students between the ages of 18 and 24 die each year from alcohol-related unintentional injuries.

    Assault: More than 690,000 students between the ages of 18 and 24 are assaulted by another student who has been drinking.

    Sexual Abuse: More than 97,000 students between the ages of 18 and 24 are victims of alcohol-related sexual assault or date rape.

    Injury: 599,000 students between the ages of 18 and 24 receive unintentional injuries while under the influence of alcohol.

    Academic Problems: About 25 percent of college students report academic consequences of their drinking including missing class, falling behind, doing poorly on exams or papers, and receiving lower grades overall.

    Health Problems/Suicide Attempts: More than 150,000 students develop an alcohol-related health problem and between 1.2 and 1.5 percent of students indicate that they tried to commit suicide within the past year due to drinking or drug use.

  • Utah Alum Orem, UT
    July 26, 2014 7:50 p.m.

    timid sparrow

    Where in the scriptures (chapter and verse) does it say to sweep everything under the rug and pretend that nobody ever does anything wrong?

  • Eddie Syracuse, UT
    July 26, 2014 7:52 p.m.

    This will be a badge of honor in uteville.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    July 26, 2014 8:39 p.m.

    That wasn't classy.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    July 26, 2014 8:41 p.m.

    Brave Sir Robin:
    Because everyone who claims to believe in scripture pick and choose which ones to believe and which ones to ignore.

  • Y-Ask-Y? Provo, UT
    July 26, 2014 8:56 p.m.

    Poly an: "In Provo that would land him on the outside of the program looking in... In uteville it gets him a pat on the back with a coach's suggestions on what to do to make sure that he doesn't get caught next time... I love my Cougars and the Honor Code... It goes far beyond Football and what one is able to get away with over the next couple of years and prepares them for a life of responsibility and dependability."

    Having graduated from BYU, and being very familiar with what goes on among athletes, I must apologize for the arrogance of the above comment.

    It very well could be that the difference between athletes at the U versus those at the Y is the former are less practiced at hiding it and faking it, whereas the latter have a long and glorious tradition of hiding and faking things.

    The stories I could tell!

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    July 26, 2014 9:04 p.m.

    This is funny.

  • Condescending Wonka Salt Lake City, Utah
    July 26, 2014 9:35 p.m.

    Poyboy:

    "In Provo that would land him on the outside of the program looking in."

    I must have missed it; how far is Jamaal Williams currently on the outside of the byu program looking in? The hypocrisy in your statement is unreal. Like Jamaal, KVN, Spencer Hadley, Travis made a mistake. But like those byu players just mentioned, none of them landed 'on the outside looking in.' This really is none of our collective business, but Travis will be fine in overcoming this setback.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    July 26, 2014 9:45 p.m.

    Kids make mistakes, and this certainly qualifies as one. Hopefully Travis learns from this and gets his head on straight before the season starts

  • Lambo Clearfield, UT
    July 26, 2014 9:52 p.m.

    Some have suggested BYU sweeps player infractions under the rug, if anything BYU seems to err on the opposition extreme, they have until recently announced honor code infractions (albeit they don't disclose the specific infraction). I always feel so bad for the player who is forced to wear the scarlet letter (Brandon Davies, Harvey Unga, Spencer Hadley) and their mistakes are shouted from the roof tops. BYU is held to such a high standard and any slip up gets people yelling hypocrite! So in a way (even though I don't agree with broadcasting athlete's personal failings) it was refreshing to see a Ute player being scrutinized for questionable behavior.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    July 26, 2014 9:56 p.m.

    chicken pigeon

    "Why is that?" Well you already know the reason and your little post just goes to show why.

    This isn't about mercy and justice. It's about hypocrisy but you already knew that.

    Whit will just slap his wrists and there will be little to nothing done. Kind of like that kid that failed three drug tests and still stayed on the team. A minor problem that missing a few games will fix.

    But as someone already said this was not a DUI, a 'Core Value' violation.

    But a high profile QB? This kid is the cornerstone of the team, the voice, the ambassador, the leader.

    A fine example of stupidity and the timing was impeccable.

    Way to go Travis.

  • Wow, that was awful Salt Lake City, UT
    July 26, 2014 10:15 p.m.

    I Love how Uber-classy Chris B is quick to loop in some reference to a BYU player of the past to divert attention.
    Who cares, I would drink also if my team couldn't get into a bowl game....

  • pocyUte Pocatello, ID
    July 26, 2014 10:21 p.m.

    Taysom4

    You are a very right minded individual.

    Kids from both schools make mistakes, period.

    I'm disappointed that Travis would be this careless, he's supposed to a team leader, and team leaders don't do that.

    As for all the garbage going back and forth, football just can't get here fast enough.

  • Rockarolla West Jordan, UT
    July 26, 2014 10:31 p.m.

    Under age drinking at the U is like Ice Cream eating at BYU. There is no honor code at the U and team rules are pretty lax when it comes to this offense.

    Too bad for Travis but, I suppose that the punishment will be a few extra sprints or missing part of the Idaho State game.This should be a serious offense but is just isn't dealt with the way it should be.

    At most schools this just isn't a big deal. Under age drinking is a serious problem in this country. Luckily Travis didn't get behind the wheel of a automobile. Could have been much worse. Probably will receive a slap on the wrist and a stern talking to.

  • JoCo Ute Grants Pass, OR
    July 26, 2014 10:40 p.m.

    BTW. . . Wilson will be 21 in December 2014. 4 months short of 21, he'll be legal by the time any court deals w/ this. What a waste of public money.

  • Riley Mendenhall Provo, UT
    July 26, 2014 10:53 p.m.

    To BYU fans that are throwing stones:

    Travis Wilson was cited for underage drinking.

    Jamaal Williams was arrested for underage drinking.

  • Taysom4Heisman Heber City, UT
    July 26, 2014 11:34 p.m.

    @Brave Sir Robin

    "Here's one of the many things that bug me about BYU fans: The scriptures teach us much about the need for mercy and justice for those who sin. But it seems like whenever a BYU player breaks the law, BYU fans are all about mercy (Spencer Hadley). But when a Utah player breaks the law, BYU fans are all about justice (Paris Warren). Why is that?"

    Please read the first comment I made on this article and then tell me again that BYU fans only want justice for utah players who break the rules. I think Travis deserves a mild punishment, but no suspension, as long as he is truly sorry for what he did and intends to never do it again.

    Here's one of the many things that bug me about some (not all) utah fans: They take a ridiculous comment from one or two BYU fans and assume that the entire fan base acts that way. Yes, there are BYU fans who want mercy for BYU players and justice for utes. But there are many (like myself) who aren't that way at all. Your comment is prejudiced and generalizes BYU fans incorrectly.

  • Taysom4Heisman Heber City, UT
    July 26, 2014 11:39 p.m.

    @JoCo Ute

    "BTW. . . Wilson will be 21 in December 2014. 4 months short of 21, he'll be legal by the time any court deals w/ this. What a waste of public money."

    It doesn't work that way at all. If you get caught drinking under 21, then you are accused as drinking underage even if you go to court after your 21st birthday.

    If you drive by yourself as a 15-year old but then go to traffic court after you get your license, they won't let it slide.

    Having said that, the article stated that Wilson was released at the scene, so I'm not sure if he will end up going to court at all.

  • ekute Layton, UT
    July 26, 2014 11:53 p.m.

    Y-Ask-Y?

    I commend you for your frankness. Whatever punishment is incurred on Travis, I doubt that it would be more severe on a byu player. Go Utes. Go Travis.

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    July 26, 2014 11:53 p.m.

    @ Max was wrong

    And you know this how? Your assumptions are not fair.

    College kids are going to drink. It happens everywhere, even at BYU. I attended a party or two in Provo back in the early 90's that had a few football players (no names given) that consumed adult sodas. We also have seen recently that a few BYU players have been caught drinking as well. Don't forget a certain star now playing in the NFL who had this same temporary issue. He rebounded successfully and we can only hope kids learn from these mistakes/sins. Better yet, we can all hope (wishful thinking) that this stuff just won't happen. But it does and it will. Nevertheless, casting stones by fans of the red or the blue when relative foes find themselves in trouble is petty.

    Travis Wilson has some explaining to do. I think he is a good kid. he has been through a lot in the last year. He has handled himself well and I have faith he will grow up more and bounce back from this. Still, he has some explaining to do.

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    July 27, 2014 12:04 a.m.

    @ Brave Sir Robin

    Nice take. Your question at the end: "Why is that?" It's the unfortunate judgmental factor in effect.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    July 27, 2014 12:09 a.m.

    @asky...

    I don't need you apologizing for me... so get over that... If you feel the need to be the official spokesman for BYU fans that don't comment in a way you like or approve of, make sure you leave me off that list. If I need apologizing I'll either do it myself or ask someone to do it for me who has a smidgeon of grace in their commentary.

    @condescending wonka...

    I don't think any of us know what happened with the situation concerning Jamaal Williams... We know he was charged... We know that he pled non-guilty... and we know that Mendenhall was fine with the situation after talking with Williams and investigating the matter. If you know something more, please bring me up to speed.

    Here's what I do know though... Hadley had to miss 3 or 4 games for his actions; Van Noy had to sit out a year; Loyd ended up transferring to a Division II school in Basketball; and another starting guard (his name escapes me know) was dismissed and did not return to the program... I would say that that qualifies for being on the outside looking in...

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    July 27, 2014 12:12 a.m.

    @Balan

    I understand your problem with some Ute comments here. And I agree that there ARE NOT many malicious comments from BYU fans, although a few contain some troubling elements to them for me.

    Also, it does cut both ways. When Chris B. or a few others go overboard, they don't speak for all Ute fans. It's equally as common for those relative individuals to comment on other articles and incite harshness in return from the blue. This is just part of the bad blood rivalry element that won't go away rather Utah and BYU play one another or not.

  • GoRed WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    July 27, 2014 2:52 a.m.

    @Blue AZ Cougar (and Max)

    So, what you're saying is that since Van Noy "repented" and took a year off before playing for BYU, that made what he did okay. Really?

    Maybe the better example that I should have pointed out was Jamaal Williams, arguably BYU's best player. On February 16 of this year Williams was arrested for under-age drinking. Yet he has not been kicked off the team. Why? Where is the outrage from BYU fans about this, especially from Max? As I said in my previous post, your fan base is notorious for piling on any player from the U if it involves things against BYU's own self-imposed Honor Code. Yet, when someone like Jamaal Williams is found guilty of this, you guys are very quiet about this.

    Again, it reeks with hypocrisy.

  • Lambo Clearfield, UT
    July 27, 2014 4:47 a.m.

    @Riley Mendenhall,

    Good point. Travis' infraction was smaller 1) he was breaking the law, 2) he was probably breaking team rules which probably include not embarrassing the university of Utah by breaking the law.

    Jamal Williams 1) was breaking his contract with the school (honor code) not to drink PERIOD regardless of age 2) breaking the law, 3) breaking team rules, if he were a member of the LDS church we would also be breaking his covenants, so not nearly as bad as the Spencer Hadley case, but more severe infraction than Travis Wilson due to the honor code contract.

    My question in both these cases is where we're the teammates, that are supposed to be wingmen to help their friends not make dumb choices? In the case of Travis to encourage him to wait until legal age and in the case of Jamal to help him understand drinking is not allowed at all and support him in abstaining until he is no longer under honor code contract. Neither Travis nor Jamal was being a team player by their selfish act, but where were their teammates? Could these poor choices have been avoided with better support & accountability between players.

  • pragmatistferlife salt lake city, utah
    July 27, 2014 6:48 a.m.

    A junior in college drinking at a country concert...wow, now there's some news.

    A junior in college drinking in public in a state that is nutty about drinking at all, stupid..probably not, careless yea.

    Punishment from Whitt...dude what we're you thinking? Now go to the weight room (if Travis had a "drinking problem" they would certainly know it by now.).

  • East Coast Ute Storrs, CT
    July 27, 2014 8:17 a.m.

    sammyg's reactions to the exact same scenarios:

    Utah player-"A fine example of stupidity and the timing was impeccable.

    Way to go Travis.

    9:56 p.m. July 26, 2014"

    BYU player-"Much ado about nothing.

    9:07 p.m. March 25, 2014"

  • East Coast Ute Storrs, CT
    July 27, 2014 8:24 a.m.

    "I don't think any of us know what happened with the situation concerning Jamaal Williams... "

    But you obviously know enough of this situation less than 24 hours after the story broke to pass judgment on what will happen to him?

  • Cletus from Coalville Coalville, UT
    July 27, 2014 8:30 a.m.

    That's why we have the best players because they are way cool.

    Go Utes!

  • Cletus from Coalville Coalville, UT
    July 27, 2014 8:33 a.m.

    It don't matter because we are in a prestegous conference.

    Go Utes!

  • Taysom4Heisman Heber City, UT
    July 27, 2014 8:41 a.m.

    @Go Red

    "As I said in my previous post, your fan base is notorious for piling on any player from the U if it involves things against BYU's own self-imposed Honor Code."

    As I said in my previous post, please read my first comment and tell me again that BYU's fan base, as a whole, piles on when a ute makes a mistake.

    You are taking a few comments and generalizing them for our whole fan base. I bet the majority of BYU fans do not want to see Travis be punished very heavily. I don't want to see him miss any game action at all.

    The problem is, most of those fans aren't going to come on this comment board and say that. I am among the minority in that regard. Most of the BYU fans who took the time to comment on this article are the ones who want to mock Travis and the utes.

    So it is skewed data. Kinda like when they say that most shark bites happen within 20 feet from shore. That's where all the people are, so that's where it will happen.

  • Pendergast Salt Lake City, UT
    July 27, 2014 9:01 a.m.

    re East Coast Ute

    Agreed. All country & rap music s/b outlawed.

  • Scores Idaho Falls, ID
    July 27, 2014 9:13 a.m.

    Why did I just read all this? Let's go play some ball!

  • Robert Johnson Sunland, CA
    July 27, 2014 9:45 a.m.

    Oh my Gosh! A college student drinking alcohol? I'm shocked. Absolutely shocked!

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    July 27, 2014 11:50 a.m.

    Probably not a big deal and I highly doubt any punishment will be coming down from whittingham, but the righteous indignation from utah "fans" is pretty funny. lol

  • Sendero1 Mesa, AZ
    July 27, 2014 12:17 p.m.

    The incident is way overblown, and most of the comments in this reader section are as well.

    Would be nice if fans on both sides quit jumping for joy at every minor mishap of players on the opposing team. Stupid criticism, and even worse, impotent -- if that's the best (or should I say worst) they can come up with. Grow up, people, and find something worthwhile to talk about.

  • Tomahawk Red San Francisco, CA
    July 27, 2014 1:25 p.m.

    Balan
    South Jordan, Utah
    Furthermore, if you want to see individuals clamouring for justice, go read the comments about the Van Noy, Hadley or Williams run in with the law. The abuse that BYU and these three BYU players took from Utah fans is much more than what you are seeing here from a couple of BYU fans.

    Again, your hypocrisy is deafening.

    ----------

    Nope. Utah fans don't say "we're all about forgiveness and second chances" and then pile on when a BYU player gets in trouble.

    We are consistent with our expectations. A player gets in trouble, they should probably be punished in some fashion.

  • Tomahawk Red San Francisco, CA
    July 27, 2014 1:27 p.m.

    Balan
    South Jordan, Utah

    this is exactly what I love about BYU and Coach Mendenhall.

    ------

    This is exactly why I thank my lucky stars that Utah is not like BYU.

    I want my coach focused on football first, not firesidss.

  • Tomahawk Red San Francisco, CA
    July 27, 2014 1:28 p.m.

    Ernest T. Bass
    Bountiful, UT
    Brave Sir Robin:
    Because everyone who claims to believe in scripture pick and choose which ones to believe and which ones to ignore.

    ----------

    Best comment on the board.

  • Tomahawk Red San Francisco, CA
    July 27, 2014 1:43 p.m.

    Taysom4Heisman
    Heber City, UT
    @JoCo Ute

    "BTW. . . Wilson will be 21 in December 2014. 4 months short of 21, he'll be legal by the time any court deals w/ this. What a waste of public money."

    It doesn't work that way at all. If you get caught drinking under 21, then you are accused as drinking underage even if you go to court after your 21st birthday.

    ---------

    I don't think that's what he was suggesting... as much as he was illustrating what a waste of money it is to prosecute someone for underage drinking when they are basically of age... 20 years 8 months.

    Realizing this, the officer should've given him a warning or nothing.

  • WhyAmIhere? Cottonwood Heights, UT
    July 27, 2014 3:43 p.m.

    What's the big deal? This is normal behavior at the U. I seriously doubt the coaches will take any action on this. He IS still the starting QB.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    July 27, 2014 3:43 p.m.

    east coast ute

    Nice try... but the situations are different and you know that.

    I don't condone drinking, doing drugs, etc. but obviously because of the differences between civil and religious schools we have an apple and oranges situation... but you knew that too.

    You can bet that I will come down hard on those that have leadership roles. Travis is a leader which makes his situation somewhat unique. Role models shouldn't do stupid things. It can cause problems in the ranks.

    I rather doubt that Travis went to his coach with sack cloth and ashes but just a simple guilty conscience for getting caught and wondering what kind of minor discipline and flack this will generate.

    When a BYU player is in this position we can be assured that they have the 'fear of God' in them not knowing if they will lose their scholarship, be kicked out of school for an Honor Code violation, a huge dose of humility, embarrassment, countless comments from haters and supporters, a bright media spotlight, and the list goes on.

    It's obvious the easier road is to be a Ute.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    July 27, 2014 3:54 p.m.

    @tomahawkred

    So should a person be given a pass if they almost come to a stop at a stop sign?

    Personally I think the drinking age should be lower but it isn't and wilson broke the law so no he shouldn't have been given a warning or let off with no repercussions from the law. I also got one of those tickets as a 20 year old and I deserved to get it, I broke the law. wilson did the crime, he deserved the ticket.

    He did get off lightly as the cops could have hauled him into jail and booked him if they so desired, instead they just gave him a ticket which he'll have to pay and let him go on his merry way. Seems more than a reasonable response to me the unreasonable thing to do would have been to let him get away with it.

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    July 27, 2014 6:12 p.m.

    Sorry, samg. The supposed 'differences' you cite do nothing to distinguish your distinctly hypocritical reactions.

    But, the attempt was hilarious!

  • jls Sandy, UT
    July 27, 2014 9:22 p.m.

    SammyG:

    Actually, when looking at the BYU football schedule, the easier road is clearly taken by the Cougs.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    July 27, 2014 10:34 p.m.

    @ Duckhunter

    I have a similar story. I got an MIP a month before my 21st. It was frustrating, but it's the price you pay for breaking the law. I agree that the cops were fair in this situation.

    Travis will be fine, although his wallet is going to take a hit.

  • FanOfTheSith Vernal, UT
    July 28, 2014 1:07 a.m.

    Not thinking about the consequence is his mistake and I do hope that he will face up to it and remedy it immediately. Playing Football while going to school seems good enough reason not to burn opportune education bridges.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    July 28, 2014 8:45 a.m.

    @2fer

    Yea it's fair and in the long run it is really not that big of a deal. I'm sure whittigham will address it with him but I doubt there will be any strict repercussions, at least not publicly. Life will go on.

  • But seriously folks! Salt Lake City, UT
    July 28, 2014 9:05 a.m.

    And so it begins...............
    The difference between BYU and the u is that BYU does not cover it up or sweep it under the rug. They take action. Whit will do nothing. It's funny that two universities that are so close can have such differing views of civil and moral laws. Just saying.

  • Ute buster Salt Lake City, UT
    July 28, 2014 9:11 a.m.

    Difference is that he will now be a hero in the eyes of ute fans.

    Drinking doe not seem to be an issue for ute fans as you can buy beer at RES and then throw it on BYU players as they come out of the tunnel. My have things changed since Brigham Young established u of u.

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    July 28, 2014 9:29 a.m.

    Stupid mistake by a college kid. Hopefully he learns from it and moves on so it doesn't destroy his career.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    July 28, 2014 9:35 a.m.

    A ute player breaks a law, and BYU gets mocked.

    Like politics. Every mistake by the commander, and George Bush get ridiculed.

  • East Coast Ute Storrs, CT
    July 28, 2014 10:04 a.m.

    LOL where do Gone under and worf come up with this stuff?!

  • Coach Biff Lehi, UT
    July 28, 2014 11:08 a.m.

    Really, not smart of Travis, hope he learns a lesson. Really, Y fans, our kids have had their fair share of indiscretions, no need to get all righteous on this one.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    July 28, 2014 11:39 a.m.

    @ Ute buster

    You can't buy beer, or any alcoholic beverage for that matter, at RES or anywhere on Utah's campus.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    July 28, 2014 11:49 a.m.

    @ Sammy G

    I'm sure Wilson will recover from Sammy G coming down hard on him. Too funny!

  • Schnee Salt Lake City, UT
    July 28, 2014 11:52 a.m.

    @Ute buster
    "Difference is that he will now be a hero in the eyes of ute fans. "

    There's a difference between people thinking it's not a big deal, and thinking it's a good thing to do.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    July 28, 2014 12:43 p.m.

    Only from Utah County is this even a story. Let the byU faithful discuss the arrest of their #1 RB coming into this season before they start judging TW or the U. Wilson was not intoxicated, he was ticketed for underage drinking. Jamaal Williams was arrested with a blood alcohol content well in excess of legal intoxication. I am not judging Jamaal Williams in any manner, I am just saying that this happens with kids - even at byU!!

    Live and learn.

    Go Utes!!

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    July 28, 2014 1:09 p.m.

    poyman:

    "it appeared that someone in uteville blew the whistle"

    News flash for Utah County - perception is NOT reality! No one knows, and will probably never know, who actually "blew the whistle" on Hadley. You can speculate all you want about who might have and who might not have, but there is absolutely no evidence it was a Utah fan or a byU fan or an upset ex-girlfriend or whoever.

    But thanks for coming on to a Utah article and pushing an old agenda that has not merit.

  • Down under Salt Lake City, UT
    July 28, 2014 1:10 p.m.

    2 fer_
    Then where does the beer come from in RES? and please don't tell me it doesn't happen there since I have personally seen it happen.
    Please tell me it is not smuggled in. That would be too funny.
    Admit it, the u has lost their way when it comes to standards of yesteryear.
    They have adjusted very well to the new morality prevalent in our country.
    Brigham Young would be so proud.

  • Ute buster Salt Lake City, UT
    July 28, 2014 1:14 p.m.

    Schnee,
    DO you really think that ute fans know the difference? Wrong is wrong or are we twisting standards now?

  • ekute Layton, UT
    July 28, 2014 2:04 p.m.

    "DO you really think that ute fans know the difference? Wrong is wrong or are we twisting standards now?"

    Very strong statement. Obviously, the commenter has his ducks all in a row.

    Go Utes. Go Travis.

  • IdahoCoog Malad City, ID
    July 29, 2014 12:11 a.m.

    GO-RED... Van Noy was indeed ticketed with a DUI... but was punished big time because of it. KVN was suspended from the team and had to sit out a year... and during that year KVN had to prove himself truly repentant. His return to the team after a year was never automatic. Bronco only accepted Van Noy back into the fold when he showed humility in true remorse, and the desire to live the honor code to the letter... which he did with class.

    Will Wilson have to do anything like that... sit out a year, and prove his standards have been raised? I doubt it. He will probably face no penalty whatsoever, or at the most sit out the biggeee against Idaho State.

  • let's roll LEHI, UT
    July 29, 2014 10:57 a.m.

    The fact that there are almost 100 comments on this story is the same reason we wait in traffic for 30 minutes to get by a fender bender on the side of the road...far too much rubber-necking going on.

    In both instances, we'd all be better off keeping focused on what we need to do and trust the professionals in charge will do the right thing.

    That's what I choose to do.

  • Reno Cougs Fan 68 Reno, NV
    July 29, 2014 11:17 a.m.

    My question is why is a young man that is coming back from a major health scare drinking at all? I think that should be a concern to all the Utah faithful!!! Seems to me he is acting with in pared judgement!!! I agree with other posters and wonder why not even a U fan had his back and was watching for their quarterback?!!!

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    July 29, 2014 6:31 p.m.

    "GO-RED... Van Noy was indeed ticketed with a DUI... but was punished big time because of it. KVN was suspended from the team and had to sit out a year... and during that year KVN had to prove himself truly repentant. His return to the team after a year was never automatic. Bronco only accepted Van Noy back into the fold when he showed humility in true remorse, and the desire to live the honor code to the letter... which he did with class.

    Will Wilson have to do anything like that... sit out a year, and prove his standards have been raised? I doubt it. He will probably face no penalty whatsoever, or at the most sit out the biggeee against Idaho State."

    Are you really attempting to equate Travis' citation with van noy's dui? You seriously can't make this stuff up.

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    July 29, 2014 11:01 p.m.

    AZUTE1

    Everybody knows that this is just another incident that will be swept under the rug by Whittingham, just like he did Blechen's multiple failed drug tests, and the other drug and alcohol related incidents up on the hill.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    July 30, 2014 1:16 a.m.

    @ Down under

    I've known some people to sneak in liquor, because it's easy to conceal. Nobody sneaks in beer because it's almost impossible to conceal and it's even harder to keep it cold. But like I said, you can't purchase it inside the stadium, or anywhere on campus.

  • BigCougar Bountiful, UT
    July 31, 2014 11:56 a.m.

    @GoRed
    What about Kyle Van Noy? He, too, was cited for this same offense

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    Kyle sat out an entire season because of his incident. What are the chances that Whitt makes Travis sit out an entire year?! The chances of that are about the same as for the utes winning more than 4 games this year. Zip. Zilch. Nada. Not gonna happen.

    You should think rants through a little before hitting the send button. The KVN issue has been pretty well documented by now and would've been easy to find out.

  • BigCougar Bountiful, UT
    July 31, 2014 11:59 a.m.

    @EastCoastUte
    batman, the only heinous criminal act is that it was a Tim McGraw concert.

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    Nice post. That's probably the thing he was most worried about getting out in the press! Very funny.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    July 31, 2014 2:17 p.m.

    Renocoug asked?

    My question is why is a young man that is coming back from a major health scare drinking at all?
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    Because he's a normal college student? For those of us 21 and over, alchol is legal and enjoyed by many in 49 states.