While feeding, clothing, and educating these poverty-stricken children is the
noble responsibility of all those who have the means (whether through extended
family, churches, private charities, or public agencies), the really pathetic
and tragic circumstance is that adults who can not or will not provide the
necessities for these children continue to bring them into this world. This
includes those who appear to be middle class, who are fully employed but
under-employed, and go through all the visible motions of having their act
together, but then send their kids to school for free meals, use food stamps, or
depend on others to meet their personal financial responsibilities.If you can not provide for children, the noble and honest decision is to not
have children!! Strategically planning to have others meet your financial
responsibilities is a hallmark of the lack of integrity. I wonder if this is an
issue in Utah.
Poverty and parents are not somehting they can't be held accountable for.
Poverty is the state of the economy and how corporations and government have
jointly collaborated to oppress workers and incomes. With the use of cheap labor
and slaves and illegals foreign nationals to maintain poverty so they cannot
rise up and knock down and fight governemtn for its criminal actions.Poverty is a creation by business and govnerment denial pretending it is not
tier fault. So they blame the people for not having education so they give them
debt to obtain education but that doesn't work either becasue education is
not the root of poverty. Poverty is the collaboration by business to control
government laws to stop government from deporting illegal aliens and tax exempt
low cost impoverished labor.Poverty is not related to education, its
the result of government corruption and fraud.
Typical liberal hysteria. The governor and attorney general are spending
millions of dollars defending traditional families. That means all these
problems will go away because traditional families will have been defended. Defending traditional families is all about the children. The governor
and AG said it, we've read it in DN editorials, we see it in comment after
comment from the most conservative citizens. Traditional families and children.
Must defend!Whoever wrote this article is ver misinformed. Utah is
all about the children and is therefore spending millions so families will have
a mom and a dad and nobody will drop out of school or get free meals in the park
or get teen pregnant. Defending traditional families will do that, and build
strong bodies 12 different ways and get all the stubborn stains out. Plus,
traditional families are fat free and get great gas milage. Yep. For
the children. Millions of dollars.
I don't see poverty as the main issue here. I see parents who lack an
understanding or desire to organize their lives and learn how to parent. I grew
up in a home with very little income. My parents valued education and learning.
It was a part of everyday life. The focus of our home life was provident living
(wise use of resources) instead of focusing on more money to live a competitive
life with relatives and neighbors. We learned that we could not compete with
others, especially when they were filing bankruptcies and refinancing their
mortgages to live a lifestyle. Poverty comes at all income levels. Some people
are better at hiding it.When we learn to focus on provident living
(wise use of resources) instead of how many dollars we can earn and spend at
dead end jobs, then we will also see a change in the focus of life in Utah.
Most two income families would be better off with only one parent working. Most
people do not understand how to analyze income and taxes.
There are two ways to not have children you can't afford, assuming you
aren't able to afford birth control, either.1. Abortion2. AbstinenceIn as much as it isn't noble or honest to kill
an unborn baby, I prefer the latter, but I also know that's not likely
going to happen. So if birth control were more readily available to low income
women, I wonder if some of these issues might be lessened? Government funded
birth control or government funded food subsidies and health care, either way,
it would involve our tax dollars. I wonder which one would be cheaper?
My2Cents,Your view on business oppressing workers is interesting.
So if I close down my business my employees will be better off? My lowest paid
employee is a college student who makes $15/hr. I am sure that he and his
family will be much better off having no income than suffering through the
oppression I am imposing on him. It is this kind of attitude that is destroying
this country. Yes, there are some employers who pay the absolute minimum and do
not treat their employees well. There are a greater percentage of employees
who show up late, spend half their work day on Facebook and personal calls and
do just enough to avoid being fired. It always amazes me how I can hire two
people for the same job and one has twice (or more) the output of the other.Poverty is very much correlated with education. If you are only
qualified to get a minimum wage job flipping burgers, odds are pretty good you
will end up poverty. Most of us used minimum wage jobs to learn skills and
advance. Others simply hang out and do not invest in themselves.
@hockeymomBirth control is readily available to low income women via
Medicaid or your local planned parenthood office. It isn't about birth
control - it's about common sense. I have worked with a number of young
women who purposefully got pregnant for a lot of silly reasons even though they
had easy access to free birth control. In most of these situations they were
turning to churches or government or both to help them out. They idea of
self-sufficiency or changing their circumstance never entered their minds. They
seemed hopeless about changing their "fate" and were resigned to let the
forces of nature or the gods determine their future. The issues around poverty
run much deeper than just money and involve mental and emotional health,
education, physical health, family history, etc. We somehow have to treat the
individual and try to change their view about themselves and the their ability
to influence their future and improve their circumstances. Public assistance
should be a short-term fix, not a life-long subsidy supporting a sub-standard
Increasing the minimum wage is the best thing we could do to reduce poverty.
"RBB" and "MY2cents" are BOTH right.I salute RBB who
pays a decent wage. I KNOW firsthand the dilemma he faces. I also know that
his attitude is becoming more and more rare.Too many employers
don't follow the rules - much less use much common sense, at least
concerning the long-term health of our nation. I think (hope) those are the
ones that "my2cents" is referring to.At some point in our
not-too-distant past there was a "bond" between the working man and
their employers. Somehow, over the past few decades that "bond" has
been broken.One of my biggest complaints about things in the U.S.
now is that SOME companies don't at least follow the rules regarding hiring
illegal workers. And NO ONE makes them.Then there's the
problem of "outsourcing" that politicians don't seem to care much
about either.American companies CAN compete - and, at the same time
provide a decent wage to their workers - those two issues ARE very
compatible.We just have to elect representatives that recognize that ALL
workplace/competitive rules are enforced.