I agree 100% with Mr. Liljenquist. The fact that we are getting to the bottom of
this is a huge plus for the state. Let the investigations continue.
They are completely innocent. I just know it.
Just goes to show that every black eye has a silver lining. But
beyond the mixed metaphors, Dan, how about the obvious fact that a sleazy
Republican politician was elected AG in 2012 over a highly qualified, successful
prosecutor just because he was a Democrat? What do you say about the unthinking
unitary partisanship in Utah? What about the obvious abuses of power it leads
Until the legislature passes some real legislation that eliminates these sketchy
conflict of interest instruments, we can look at this as yet another chapter in
a very long epic saga. Pass campaign finance reform now, Utah legislature!
I agree that the press has played a huge role here. That said, does anyone else
find it ironic that the praise of the press is appearing in this particular
paper, which didn't exactly lead the way on this story?
Re: "What do you say about the unthinking unitary partisanship in
Utah?"You mean, of course, the unthinking, unitary partisanship
that Utah Democrats have forged with the DNC.The main obstacle to
political power-sharing in Utah is Democrat fealty to a national organization
that has gone way, way off the tracks.If we ever expect to be
successful, Utah Democrats must be Utah Democrats. Not disingenuous,
disconnected, dystopian Pelosi/Reid clones.
" . . . leaders of our public institutions, particularly our law enforcement
apparatus, must be beyond reproach."Well, they must be beyond
reproach if we expect true and perfect justice. But how many Americans actually
expect that?Does anyone really expect the justice system to be
beyond reproach? . . . even if you prosecute a couple of corrupt AG’s?
Sure, you can cut off the head of a snake, but the rest of the snake is still a
snake.It's naive to believe that Shurtleff and Swallow are the
only ones who ever committed crimes in the Attorney General's office.There are still umpteen Assistant Attorneys General, and I'll bet
you wouldn't have to look very far to uncover crimes committed by at least
some of them during their careers in the Criminal so-called justice system . .
Perjury, for example.Ideally, members of law enforcement, should
be beyond reproach. But they are not. In fact, some of them are major repeat
offenders.Unprincipled, power-tripping prosecutors are not compelled
to obey the law, and they can and sometimes do willfully and knowingly abuse
their power in their zeal to prosecute and persecute.Look up the
At some point, a judicial determination will be reached on the charges against
these men, there should still be a critical review of the motivations of Mr.
Gill and Mr. Rawlings in pursuing these investigations and charges. Arizona
recently had the experience of having a Republican prosecutor use the legal
system in an attempt to neutralize his political enemies of any and all parties.
This prosecutor brought felony charges against prominent Republican and
Democratic politicians in the area that opposed him. He was a talented attorney
and wrote very convincing probable cause statements that swayed grand juries to
sign off on his accusations and bring charges. Of course when the
whole mess came before judges and courts, the house of cards fell apart on that
prosecutor and he and his chief assistant were disbarred at the end of the day.
For an ambitious politician, disbarment is not a hindrance to seeking higher
office. Verify the ambitions of these prosecutors; do they want to be the
Attorney General of Utah or even the governor? If this promotes their ambitions,
take a very critical view of this. If not, still tread carefully because
politicians on their way out can still seek revenge.
Irony guy forgets that the Democratic candidate for AG, whose name I can't
even remember even though I voted for him, hardly staged campaign in 2012!
Though I was a registered republican at the time, something about Swallow
stank--I know other Republicans who also smelled it, and we went looking for an
alternative. The Democrat seemed like a good choice for an AG, though a poor
choice of a candidate, for he seemed entirely unwilling to put up a fight. The Dems have not only Republicans but themselves to blame for not
mounting a good campaign. Swallow was entirely beatable. Many of us saw he
would be trouble.
I agree with Lillenquist about the press, City Weekly and the Salt Lake Tribune
did a solid job staying engaged in this story.
Thomas Jefferson once wrote, “Where the press is free and every man is
able to read, all is safe.” So....what happens when the press
is all propogangda and works for the administration...as is the case with
CNN+NBC+MSNBC+CBS+NY TIMES....When the watch dog becomes the lap dog
then watch out!!! Lap dog media in America has helped create and cover for Fast
N Furious+Benghazi+IRS scandals. I am convinced that had America still had the
kind of media it did during Watergate then we would have an Attorney General in
prison and a President resigned. The loser - the American people.
Don't stop now. I doubt these two were in a bubble. There had to be others
to ferret out.And Mr. Gill said the investigation is "ongoing".He got enough on the table to start the proceedings, but I'll bet he has
lots more.Whether it's other parties, or more charges against the
two, we haven't heard the end of the charges.Good thing. Perhaps a
real shocker yet to be revealed.
Patriot -" Lap dog media in America has helped create and cover
for Fast N Furious+Benghazi+IRS scandals"Wrong on all counts.
First, the mainstream media is not "lap dog media." It's been around for much longer than FOX "NEWS," which was
created in 1996 as a propaganda outlet that only masquerades as a news
outlet.And it was not the mainstream media who created " Fast N
Furious+Benghazi+IRS scandals" Those fake "scandals" were purely a
creation of the Great Right Wing Hive Mind, and then disseminated by the likes
of FOX "NEWS," and Right Wing Radio . . . And then endlessly discussed
by Koch Brothers employees in Congress.