The "standards" didn't improve anything over what we already had.
They do force the failed "Whole Language" and Whole Math/Investigations
Math" on every teacher by pretending to be "deeper level thinking,"
which is exactly what has been pushed for the past 20 years with those failed
programs. It doesn't help students understand better.But
it's not really about the standards at all! It's about who sets the
standards - some small group of "experts," almost none of whom are or
were practicing teachers, OR parents and teachers of the local community. With
Common Core we have NO say over what is to be taught our children. We
can't change anything in them. With the testing will come the control of
teachers to teach what the national government wants taught. (Wait 'till we
get a Hitler in charge with CC in place!) And then there is the data mining
that CC allows the government to do with "what's best for the
children" as the excuse to basically spy on parents and families.
Superintendents are more businessmen rather then educators.
Those superintentents would lose their jobs if they said otherwise.
Why when I "Like" an article does the count remain the same?
I'm sure some people were optimistic about bubonic plague too.
I'm so excited for common core to be implemented. We pulled our kids from
public schools a couple of years ago. Already, they're outpacing the public
school kids. As this common core stuff gets implemented, the gap will become
even wider. Teachers, in this mess, have even less room to be creative and help
the children excel - they're going to get frustrated and as they get beat
down, that frustration will lead to more and more apathy. This will lead to kids
not having a love for learning. So, the reason why I'm excited for this...
My kids will excel and love learning. The dupes stuck in public schools are
going to detest learning and come to think that doing well on an exam = success.
When they get out of school, and start performing, my kids will be leading and
the public school kids, well, they'll be looking for someone to follow. Woo
This yet again proves to me that we need to abolish public education as it now
exists, including federal control and teachers unions !!!
The statement 'prepares all to go to college' is a part of the problem
with Common Core...NOT all students are college bound and who says they need to
be... there are many other areas of skill and motivation and training that is
not college bound. These superintendents are getting paid way way way too much
money....and Common Core and other federal programs help sustain that
My investigation and study of Common Core indicates that most opponents of the
program actually know very little about it - and a "little knowledge is a
dangerous thing". Educators who are polled in professional surveys, such as
a Gallup Poll, have an opportunity to express themselves objectively and
anonymously, without any pressure from peers, outside critics or administration.
These educators (whom I trust more than the "armchair educators" who
make most of the noise in the media) are overwhelmingly supportive of Common
Core. The conspiracy theorists will likely continue to tell us the sky is
falling, but the professionals who truly understand Common Core recognize that
this is a genuine effort to upgrade American education. We should support them -
and the program.
Asking the government superintendents if 'Common Core' is a good idea
is like asking a barber if you need a haircut...
The problem remains that in the US we try to push our kids to a standard that
other countries have already achieved, by using methods that are the opposite of
what those countries are using. If we want to compete globally, we need to be
humble enough to learn from other countries. The academic push in the US begins
way before preschool, and studies are showing that kids who are the victims of
pushy programming are burning out by 5th or 6th grade! Most other advanced
countries are not teaching reading and math until about 2nd grade, while they
focus on social skills & routine in KG & first, and believe children are
best at home with mom until 5 years old! In contrast, the term
"developmentally appropriate" in the US is now only used to describe
what kids can handle under stress, not what is actually best for them in the
optimum learning environment. Where is the fun and freedom for kids to learn
and explore their own interests if teachers and forced down a rigid curriculum
path that has no room or time for creativity or deviation? "Teach the
test", becomes the hallmark of our kid's education. Sad.
I would like to see how kids in a common core program stack up against kids who
use traditional teaching methods done right. Three of my kids went to
Challenger and we're reading fluently before 1st grade. When they went
back to public school they were at least a year ahead of their class. A couple
others when to schools that used whole language and this goofy new math. They
struggled until we had them work with Challenge r's phonics and Saxon math.
Now they are honors student.Common Core is not about standards, it
is about content - and it is content. It is no wonder that we have a lower
literacy rate today than we did at the time of the American revolution.
@ TilleySueAgreed. In fact, the best teachers remain in the
classrooms, it's the poor ones who get bumped up to administration in the
districts because they are more productive behind a desk than with students.
These policy makers are so far removed from the road, they don't remember
what it was like to be the rubber!
Are the "new" benchmarks lower than the previous ones? Is yes, you are
still going in the wrong direction and "dummying down" the children.
Teachers expectations are much more important than benchmarks. If you expect
nothing of the kids they will give you nothing. And then you are going to have
to get their parents to understand that getting the homework done is a joint
effort between the child and the parent.
Finally, a reasonable analysis of the Utah Core!
Highlander56, there are a few countries that have abolished public education or
have very little public education. Not surprisingly, they are all in Africa and
are the poorest countries in the world. The strongest education systems in the
world are very public and highly centralized. I'm not saying that is the
solution for America when the problem with the American education system is
American culture itself. That means nothing that we do here will fix our
education problems until we fix our culture and attitudes. Ironically, many
anti-public education people like to compare American education data with those
of the top performing countries who have very strong and centralized public
school systems, then complain why we can't be like them, and then come up
with an all private solution like those found in the worst educational models in
the world. It just leaves one scratching one's head.
And the Eagle Forum crazies who already push to privatize public education come
out in 321...I don't think I've ever met an anti-common
core person who actually knew what it was. Most think Obama created it or that
it's a new curriculum to teach communism. All don't know what
it's for, what it does, or who created it.
As an educator for 38 years, I have seen a number of programs and standards come
and go. My first reaction to CC was "Here we go again". As I have
studied the CC and have been trained in ways to implement it, I have hope that
this is a step in the right direction to prepare our children better for our
future. The CC not only involves Math (which may still have some adjustments to
do) but also involves language arts, social studies, and science. There are many
inaccurate statements being made about CC being a "national" program out
to indoctrinate our children. This is absolutely false. These are deceptive
claims by the far right who have not really studied the CC,nor do they respect
those of us in education who have been trained to do what is best for our
children. Most teachers I know live by the same standards that many parents
teach in their homes. Educators will not be controlled to teach from a
particular text or teach anything contrary to our local standards.
According to the U.S. Constitution, "Education is a state function".
"Common Core" is a dangerous intrusion into the right of each state to
set their own standards. This core is a creation of the U.S. Department of
NCLB had the same cheerleaders who "knew" what a wonderful mandate they
had received and continued to support it, while getting paid large salaries,
until the powers that be changed it. Most administrators quit thinking the day
they sign their contracts. After that very few, if any, will question anything
that comes above them. As a public school teacher for over 20 years, I
"puzzled and puzzled till my puzzler was sore" trying to navigate
through the mirage of "education" until I realized that many educators
had been indoctrinated as well, including myself, to toe the line. There is a
vast difference between education and school and until we move away from school,
the results will be worse, not better. Until enough citizens believe in
themselves enough to say to any national curriculum, "My name is [place your
name]and I am different than the kid or parent in [place the city]and want
someone to teach me what I need..." it will fail! Any citizen that
doesn't support the Constitution are just followers. We need thinkers and
we need leaders. The federal government should not be in Education.
Common Core is a huge improvement. It does not include Investigations or fuzzy
math, which was a pre-CC disaster. I am astounded by the amount of bad
information being perpetuated by the folks opposed to this, like Glenn Beck. How
did this become a Tea Party hot topic? And why, as usual, are people who follow
the Becks of the world so willing to believe whatever they are told? CC is the
first real opportunity we have had to get back into the running against
countries that are completely overtaking us in the critical area of STEM
So after 12 years of education, students are prepared for college.Prepared to go into debt for college education.Prepared to pay for
their own indoctrination to erroneous political, economic and social
philosophies taught by egregious professors with an agenda that is dictated to
them by elite tax exempt foundations who fund the universities.
What if the students after 12 years of education had been prepared with
specialty skills of their choice in order to enter the job market upon
graduation instead of just being prepared to go to college?
When Common Core came out, I thought it was a good idea. Last year I had the
opportunity to help by grandson with his 5th grade math. After this one time
session and asking my daughter if the all his math homework was like that, I
totally changed my opinion. At least with the 5th grade math, Common Core is
garbage and should be terminated.
Let's be honest. The teacher's union is as corrupt as any other union.
This whole idea of a common core reeks of socialism/communism. When a government
presses for such a program, it is in essence taking control of the minds of our
children via indoctrination. Common Core will never work. It is the
government's way of dummying down education to placate the millions of
illegal children that have been pressed into our education system who refuse to
learn English and now must be taught in Spanish. These school superintendents
have only themselves in mind, to maintain the status quo. When a union, such as
the teachers' union refuses to approve an across the board raise for all
teachers regardless of tenure, then you come to realize that this union is not
working in the best interests of teachers or students. It is solely to preserve
the status quo. Let's face it, our public school system is broken and run
by one of the most corrupt unions with impunity.
Chuck E. Raser hit the nail on the head. For years, Alpine School District
parents (and many teachers) hated the investigations math. Now every public
math teacher in the state is forced to use the investigations approach, even
though there are numerous other approaches that often work better. The whole
languauge approach to teaching reading has been shown for years to be less
effective than direct instruction and phonics with higher end students. The
districts will purchase only whole language instruction materials from here on
out. Your kids who are already good readers will be getting the shaft.I
question the wisdom of the Common Core adoption more and more each day. I was
an advocate in the beginning. Now that I've had to use the core in my
classroom for a few years, I realize that the multifaceted approach I was using
before the CC adoption was far more effective because I targeted different
learners in different ways. Now, if I want my students to succeed on the test
to which my paycheck is tied, I am forced to use the "common" approach
in instruction. The tests are centered around investigations math and whole
A cursory look says this looks like, smells like, and acts like the old
socialistic outcomes based education of some 20 years ago, simply repackaged.
Heaven help us - literally!
I'm not excited about any kind of curriculum unless our schools can get 40
students out of the classrooms...
I appreciate an honest and forthright article on Common Core such as this one.
Too often people form an opinion on common core instead of looking at the facts
first, and then are unwilling to listen to anyone that has a different opinion.
CC is a set of academic standards. The schools themselves decide how to meet
those standards. The article itself identifies both of these issues.CC has quite a bit higher standards than what Utah previously had. Although
the standards are challenging, they aren't impossible for younger children
with proper instruction to teach. It will be much harder on the older kids
though. The achievement gap between where we expected High School kids at
before and now must be very difficult for students to narrow.
Common Core is the worst system of education we have seen in this country and in
Utah. Gov. Herbert brought into Utah without one single vote by the public or
parents. It is a federal government TAKEOVER of your child's education
which was previously under the watch of the state and the parents. It totally
ruined mathematics and literature. Experts in math hate common core math!
Literature courses have dropped many of the great pieces of literature and
substituted reading government pamphlets. It came with a HUGE DATA collection
program aimed at the students from kindergarten through 12th grade and it
includes hundreds of data collection points on the student AND his family to be
used by any body that gets their hands on it. This government data collection
system violates your RIGHT OF PRIVACY and the public is unaware that it is going
on. Most communist countries have COMMON CORE and they have it for a reason, to
control the students and their families. Wake up Utah parents you shouldn't
let the government take over your child's education!!
To "bill in af"You say, "...but also involves language arts,
social studies, and science. There are many inaccurate statements being made
about CC being a "national" program out to indoctrinate our children.
"If, as it is with CC, one small group based in Washington D.C.
sets the "standard," involving those three subjects with the local
community having no ability to modify them, tell me how long will it take for it
to become the national politically-correct version, especially in social
studies?! With the way Obama and the DOE are using money to set up the testing
and arm-twist the states into adopting CC without discussion, how easy would it
be for him or a Hitler-type to use it for their political ends?! Especially now
that the evaluation of teachers is going to be done based on those test
results?You are incredibly naive to think this will not be used that
way, if allowed to be fully implemented. Perhaps you studied "social
studies" instead of history and geography when you were in school!
To Bill McGee:You said, "It (CC) does not include Investigations
or fuzzy math, which was a pre-CC disaster." I'm glad you realize it
was a disaster. What is being pushed by CC is 100% constructivist philosophy,
which is exactly the same philosophy that Investigations was built upon. It
keeps claiming to be "higher level thinking" not "rote
memorization," which is exactly what they said about Investigations. It is
same thing. It is the same philosophy that the "New Math" of the
60's was based on, and it still doesn't work, despite the claims of
its promoters. They keep repackaging the same failed stuff, and it keeps giving
the same results, but NOW they are going to push it with the heavy hand of the
national government!Like many educators you adopt and support this
program, not because it is in any way better, but because those whom you
consider to be enemies to education oppose it. You do this without
investigating objectively both sides and making your own opinion based on
Who created Common Core and why? Bill Gates, for one, who said that one of the
benefits of common standards would be to open the classroom up to digital
learning, making it easy for software developers, Microsoft and others, to
develop new products for the country’s 15,000 school districts. So the
motivation appears to be $$$$$$, at least for the software developers and other
corporate interests who profit from standardized tests. When the standardized
testing shows schools “failing,” it allows for profit businesses to
swoop in using tax dollars to syphon off public dollars into private pockets by
setting up charter schools. Utah would do well to understand the bitter fruits
Common Core has produced in other states before leaping into this bate and
switch scheme to enrich corporate shysters.
Re: chuck E. RacerFrom www.corestandards.org - "The Common Core is a
state‐led effort that is not part of No Child Left Behind or any other
federal initiative. The federal government played no role in the development of
the Common Core. State adoption of the standards is in no way mandatory."Who is being naive, or more importantly, rational?
Let us deal with the number one lie about School. Since when was it decided
that the only way to succeed professionally was by going to college? For all
these unemployed college graduates--perhaps a trade might be useful right now,
something that isn't even remotely part of common core! Yet I know
numerous people without a college degree that are very successful. How about
their tax dollars in preparing them for their successful career? All these
Common Core advocates are deluded into thinking that they are going to prepare
everyone to become a doctor, lawyer, accountant, or engineer, when most will not
even come close to being one of those! How about looking at the big picture and
preparing kids to become lifelong learners who can make their own choice for
To "stavan madrigal"Of course they say it is state led. How
else could they sell it? But it was developed by two private groups, NGA and
CCSSO. Governors and State Superintendents subscribe and pay money to be part
of these associations. That is the ONLY "state-led" part of it. These
private groups own the copyright. It can not be changed by anyone but them.
DOE latched onto it with funding from the federal government and other
enticements that virtually force states to adopt, despite their saying they are
free to adopt or not. If not so, why is DOE threatening states who are opting
out?CC is a de facto national curriculum with the heavy hand of the
government behind it. If they are successful in getting it to stick with the
math and language arts portion, they will impose all the rest, like social
studies and science and sex ed., which would be much more controversial. At
that point there would be no pulling out, and Utah would not be listened to.
Whatever they decided in the future, as politically correct, would be forced on
Utah teachers to teach, even if the whole state opposed it.
Parents have been and always will be the best person to teach their own
children. When my son was in 3rd grade, he was placed on an IEP,
sent to "resource" each day during math, and treated as a second-class
child. The next year we started to home school.Now, at 15 years
old, he is doing Trigonometry, plays in a volunteer orchestra, and has shown a
great talent for art! If he were subject to the public school system for that
same time, he would be far behind...CC is a national approach at
implementing certain cirriculum and shaping the future of our society by
indoctrinating children. Teachers have been fired for refusing to teach from
This is why math no longer makes sense. It doesn't make any sense to so
many kids that they just give up on it and graduate without even understanding
how to do fractions. One of the first things people should learn in math is
their times tables. Deeper understanding of math comes with time, and comes as
the brain develops enough to even understand it.
Homeschool, homeschool, homeschool….
The Founders of Our Nation set up a system of separate States so that each could
pursue different solutions based on the desires and experience of their people.
In doing this they realized that some States would find betters ways of doing
things and that this best practice could be shared by others States wanting to
follow their success. This concept applies to every facet of a State's
operation, from road building to budgeting and even education. Sadly we are
losing that critical capability of sharing best practices.All common
core does, is to dictate a mediocre level of performance across all education
levels. Even if a State did find a better way of teaching or educating, the
levels of Federal red tape and politics would not allow a better way to ever see
the light of day in common core.Why do we always feel that a central
control works better that local or competitive processes? Is it because the
postal system, rail system, VA or other Federal programs are so good?I will admit that we have a lot of parents and voters that could benefit from
an education with more critical thinking in it.
Makes one wonder if those who oppose Common Core know how much this non-federal
program resembles the Utah state core which was in place in 1986. Any core
curriculum, including Common Core, is not intended to be a limiting document,
but a minimal expectations document. Core curriculum standards describe what a
student should know and be able to do (as a minimum). Teaching strategies,
textbooks, classroom styles, are not part of any core curriculum standards.
Steve, if what you say is true, what would be the reason to endorse it? No on
has answered the following question: What is it about Washington that makes it
more capable of developing any curriculum that is superior to a state generated
one, or even better, a local generated one? Any unbiased observer the world
over vindicates the claim that what Washington proposes and runs, it fails at
@ Steve CottrellFine - it's the minimum standard. But there is
so much to cover and the testing and threats of merit pay for teachers are
riding so heavily on the scores that teachers don't feel they can sacrifice
the time for other, more engaging things which would actually maximize their
education! Bringing all the kids up to the new "minimum" standard so
they can appear to be "good" teachers and keep their jobs makes them
less effective teachers. They are reduced to being merely test-prep tutors,
which is demoralizing for people who got in to teaching to inspire kids to
become and achieve their dreams.
The Huffington Post exposed the obscene money trail leading from the Gates
Foundation to the state superintendents organization-the Council of Chief State
School Officer (CCSSO). Ben Woods would do his readers a great service by giving
his readers the whole story. The Huffington headline was "A
Brief Audit of Bill Gates' Common Core Spending" and reads:Prior
to June 2009, the Gates Foundation gave $47.1 million to CCSSO (from 2002 to
2007), with the largest amount focused on data "access" and "data
driven decisions": March 2007 Purpose: to support Phase II of
the National Education Data Partnership seeking to promote transparency and
accessibility of education data and improve public education through data-driven
decision making Amount: $21,642,317.Following CCSS completion in
June 2009, Gates funded CCSSO an additional $31.9 million, with the largest
grants earmarked for CSSS implementation and assessment, and data acquisition
The Common Core education agenda is so much worse than even NCLB. Common Core
places a student in a seat in order to feed data to crony capitalists who profit
from public education via high stakes testing and other less worthy, unproven
ideas like 1 to 1 computers. With 1 to 1 computers in place, your child
can feed coins into the pockets of huge education companies all day long. And,
when the 1 to 1 computers fail to get acceptable results, there will be a high
stakes test for that.