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Utah football: Cody Barton to join brother, Jackson, at Utah

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  • Indy St George, Utah
    June 24, 2014 9:39 p.m.

    Looks like Utah is going head to head with Weber State for its recruits now.... Oh wait... Weber State never offered this kid?
    No other offers at all? Hmmm.... It's good to see PAC-10.2 membership is paying off!

  • GoRed WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    June 24, 2014 11:34 p.m.

    @indy

    If you read the article, you'll find that the reason why Barton, the younger brother of the Utes' 4-star recruit, was not more heavily recruited is that he was injured and did not play. Hence, he was not on any team's radar. But knowing that both his mother and father were star athletes at the U helps to give an insight as to his potential. He'll be fine playing for a team that is a member of one of the Big Five Conferences, as opposed to playing for a team that is trying to be taken seriously as they try to beg their way into the Big 12.

  • 2013 Ute Seniors SWEEP byU 4-0 Ogden, UT
    June 24, 2014 11:35 p.m.

    Indy,

    Big brother Jackson Barton could have attended any college in the nation. Nearly every powerhouse program wanted him.

    He chose Utah. Byu was never considered.

    If he turns out to be half as good as his brother he'll be more than capable of delivering more humiliation in your rivalry games in the future.

    5, 6, 7 in a row? Easily. You think 4 in a row is tough to swallow?

    We're just getting started.

    The future of football in Utah, is PAC 12 proud Utah.

    Go see if the big 12 left you a message

  • CCS Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 25, 2014 6:58 a.m.

    Hey St. George Indi. Congrats! You.ve managed to alienate both Utah and Weber State fans. Next post, try for Utah State and SUU. Why antagonize Dixie State also?
    I know it's difficult playing 2nd fiddle and fighting to stay relevant. But it won't help placing the Cougs more on the proverbial island. Hang in there and prey you can bust into the Big 12. Or else get your school to concentrate on club sports in the future.

  • PacUtes Salt Lake, UT
    June 25, 2014 7:21 a.m.

    It's not important how many stars people label on players.

  • Max-was-right springville, UT
    June 25, 2014 8:14 a.m.

    It's not important how many stars people label on players.

    Oh ya, until its a BYU player were talking about, then ITS ALL THAT MATTERS...

  • 65TossPowerTrap Salmon, ID
    June 25, 2014 8:19 a.m.

    How many stars? Sorry Ute fans, but your buddies always bring that up with BYU recruits.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    June 25, 2014 8:30 a.m.

    @PacUtes,

    While you are right that stars don't guarantee anything, the average star rating of a team absolutely matters.

    Does it guarantee wins?

    NO, but neither does scoring lots of points, practicing, having a good coach, working hard, eating right, lifting weights, or running to get in shape.

    But those things help.

    A 5 star has been proven to have the highest chance at making the NFL. A 4 star has a higher chance than a 3, a 3 higher than a 2.

    Overall, on average, the recruiting services get it right.

    If you go look at who is winning national titles - they always have among the highest average star recruiting classes leading up to their championships. No coincidence

    Go UTES

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    June 25, 2014 9:14 a.m.

    Why are WCC fans even on this article?

  • Black&Blue St George, Utah
    June 25, 2014 9:25 a.m.

    Chris B.

    "While you are right that stars don't guarantee anything, the average star rating of a team absolutely matters."

    Well than your Utes are not in a good spot at all.... Your current roster has less 4 star athletes than a team you call mid-major.

    This might hurt a little...

    Scout
    4 star recruits on Utahs Roster = 4 ( Langi, Poutasi, Lutui, Barton)
    4 star recruits on BYU's Roster = 11 (Warner, Kearsley, Hinds, Mangum, Apo, Stout, Rowley, Kaufusi, Wilson, Bills, Hine)

    Rivals
    4 star recruits on Utahs Roster = 9 (Lewis, Hansen, Langi, Salt, Thomas, Poutasi, Langi, Barton, Scott)
    4 star recruits on BYU's Roster = 9 (Warner, Kurtz, Kearsley, Hinds, Mangum, Apo, Kaufusi, Bills, Matthews)

    ESPN
    4 star recruits on Utahs Roster = 2 (Lotulelei, Law)
    4 star recruits on BYU's Roster = 9 (Blackmon, Nacua(ESPN 300), Warner, Kearsley, Hinds, Pauu, Mangum(ESPN 300), Apo, Kaufusi)

    Congrats to this kid for getting his dream offer! He has a great opportunity to get a good education and play football. I hope he finds a lot of success!

  • Black&Blue St George, Utah
    June 25, 2014 9:36 a.m.

    2013 Ute Seniors SWEEP byU 4-0,

    "If he turns out to be half as good as his brother he'll be more than capable of delivering more humiliation in your rivalry games in the future.

    He chose Utah. Byu was never considered."

    BYU never offered Jackson Barton a scholarship... So how do you figure? And neither Barton has taken a meaningful snap of D1 football. For all we know the older 4-star brother could be a bigger flop than Jake Heaps and the younger No-Star brother could end up playing on Sundays.
    Either way, I hope every young man committed to or currently on Utah's roster finds success. These kids work hard and sacrifice a lot to get these opportunities. It's not right for anyone to degrade or downplay this big step and accomplishment in their lives.

  • Taysom4Heisman Heber City, UT
    June 25, 2014 9:39 a.m.

    @2013 Ute Seniors SWEEP byU 4-0

    "Big brother Jackson Barton could have attended any college in the nation."

    Indy was never talking about Jackson. He was talking about Cody.

    It's hilarious that you think Cody is an automatic hot-shot simply because his brother had a lot of offers.

    I'm not saying Cody won't be good, but basing your prediction off of his brother is ridiculous.

    "He chose Utah. Byu was never considered."

    According to ESPN's recruiting, BYU never offered him. So while you claim that Jackson never considered BYU, it looks more like BYU never considered him enough to offer. Whether it was football performance, academics, or moral standards, he just wasn't quite good enough for BYU.

    But he was perfectly fine for utah.

    @GoRed

    If he was really a dominant athlete, he would have lots of offers anyway. Yes, injuries may have slowed down his recruiting, but he oviously is not a complete unknown, considering utah offered him. I'm sure many other teams know him and have evaluated him. And there's a reason they haven't offered.

  • IRS Agent PROVO, UT
    June 25, 2014 10:24 a.m.

    @chris b

    Did you seriously just ask why the fans of another school/conference are on a Utah article? Seriously? Go look at every BYU article for the last three years, and see who is usually the first person to comment. Oh the hypocrisy.

  • Go Utes Salt Lake City, UT
    June 25, 2014 10:43 a.m.

    Congratulations Cody! Welcome to the team!

  • UtesBy5 Syracuse, UT
    June 25, 2014 10:48 a.m.

    @taysom4what?

    "According to ESPN's recruiting, BYU never offered him. So while you claim that Jackson never considered BYU, it looks more like BYU never considered him enough to offer. Whether it was football performance, academics, or moral standards, he just wasn't quite good enough for BYU.

    But he was perfectly fine for utah."

    FYI, Jackson Barton was rated the #1 recruit in the state of Utah, #4 national at his position and #70 overall nationally, by Rivals. "Wasn't quite good enough for byu"? Thanks for making my day with your humor!

    I think we both know byu didn't have a chance for Jackson so they didn't go after him. Jackson signed with the Utes during his sophomore year of high school and both parents played on the hill.

    You questioned his moral standards and academics? Jackson is a great young man and he graduated with a 3.9 GPA. Why can't you just admit that some kids want to play for the U and others want to play for the Y?

    "But he was perfectly fine for Utah"... 57-34-4, 4 in a row, 9 of last 12, 14 of last 21. You're right, he is perfectly fine for Utah!

  • 81Ute Central, UT
    June 25, 2014 10:51 a.m.

    @Black&Blue

    All that talent and they still can't beat the good teams on their schedule (Why is that?).

  • CMO Beaver Beaver, UT
    June 25, 2014 12:59 p.m.

    the BYU folks are pathetically desperate to get in a major conference, you can tell by their recruiting posts all over this section of the news

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    June 25, 2014 1:36 p.m.

    Welcome home Cody!!

    Cody will have stars after his name when all is said and done. He is having a great camp season, and will be a star on Brighton's football team this year. No worries from this Ute about his current lack of stars.

    Indy: That is really funny since byU yearly has several recruits with only byU offers. We'll see in the end how many offers he has, and how many byU signees have only byU offers.

    Black&blue (from Utah beatdowns) - What 81Ute said!

    IRS agent: You are exactly right! Chris B and all of his reincarnations are constantly on byU's articles. Oh the hypocrisy is right.

    However, there are MANY byU fans who are constantly on Utah stories - just look above and below for a small sampling of those who cannot get through a day without your Utah fix. To you and all the others, we Utes say thank you for your support and your love for all things Utah! You are welcome on Utah stories any time - you provide us with much entertainment!!

    Go Utes! Get ready for 2016 byU fans - the Barton boys will be ready to pick up the beatings!

  • JSwaggDaddy Heber City, UT
    June 25, 2014 2:02 p.m.

    @Utesby5

    Regardless of the recruiting rankings, BYU did not find him good enough to offer him.

    And it's not like BYU isn't focusing on offensive lineman in recruiting. We have recruited that position more heavily than any other over the last two years.

    And no, it's not because we didn't think we had a shot and just gave up. That's just not true with recruiting. If BYU wanted him (even if he was a long shot) we still would have thrown an offer his way just in case he was interested.

    By the way, you aren't allowed to sign as a sophomore, or a junior for that matter. EVERYONE signs early February of their senior year.

    Maybe you meant he committed sophomore year, which still would leave him available for a BYU offer...

    If they actually wanted him.

  • IRS Agent PROVO, UT
    June 25, 2014 2:38 p.m.

    @ VegasUte

    I understand that there is constant posting both ways. The hypocrisy lies in one of the biggest offenders making the complaint. It isn't usually the waterfowl hunters or Grads&Dads that complain, because they know they make the posts. It is just that the biggest abuser is the one crying foul.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    June 25, 2014 3:12 p.m.

    IRS Agent:

    I agree with you 100% on that. I too find it very ironic that the biggest offender from Utah's side complains about others posting here. There is not too fine a line between having fun with playful banter, and being disrespectful and obnoxious. There are just some people who cross the line at will and are proud of it.

    Cheers!

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    June 25, 2014 3:21 p.m.

    JSwaggDaddy:

    "BYU did not find him good enough to offer him."

    Man! That is just too funny! I can't believe anybody would post that with a straight face!!

    Every program has people they would love to have, but know they have no shot with, so they do not offer. Since Jackson is a Utah legacy, and committed so early, without wavering in the slightest, it would have been pointless for Bronco and Co to offer him. Bronco would have looked foolish to offer. That is just like Utah not offering certain kids who are clearly bound for byU. That doesn't mean that the team would not love to have the kid, it just means it is pointless to offer. But to say byU did not "find him good enough" is just silly and makes your statements look unintelligent.

    Love the Barton Brothers!! I look forward to many years of them leading both offense and defense!

    Go Utes!

    Go Utes!!

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    June 25, 2014 5:06 p.m.

    @Indy:

    "Looks like Utah is going head to head with Weber State for its recruits now.... Oh wait... Weber State never offered this kid?
    No other offers at all? Hmmm...."

    Here is the list of 2015 byU commits and their other offers:

    Kody Wilstead - SDSU, SUU
    Kimane Domena - CSU, Portland St
    Dayan Lake - None
    David Lui - Hawaii, Weber St (ironic)
    Will Sedgwick - None
    Mika Tafua - Vanderbilt
    Khari Vanderbilt - None

    byU is fighting against three WAC schools, the worst SEC school in the conference, two FCS schools and ..... WEBER ST for all of it's recruits! Now - don't your comments seem just a little silly?

    Too easy.

    Go Utes!!

  • JSwaggDaddy Heber City, UT
    June 25, 2014 5:14 p.m.

    @VegasUte

    For your information, BYU offered the Kruger kids a scholarship even though they were a very utah-loyal family.

    utah also offered the Kaufusi, Reynolds, and Collie boys even though they are a very BYU-loyal family.

    You say it would be foolish for Bronco to offer him, but it's the complete opposite. If they are good enough, you should still offer and see what your options are. This is why BYU offered guys like Damien Mama and Solomon Thomas last year even though they were big time recruits.

    -Your statement that BYU shied away from an offer because he comes from a utah family can be proven wrong by BYU's offers to the Kruger family.

    -Your statement that BYU shied away from an offer because we "have no shot" can be proven wrong by our offers to Mama and Thomas.

    If we want a player, we offer him.

    We didn't offer him, so we didn't want him. Simple as that.

    P.S. Jackson is a good player, but if Cody is the leader of utah's defense I really fear for where their program is headed.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    June 25, 2014 6:20 p.m.

    JSwaggDaddy:

    That's the flaw in your logic. Why doesn't byU make offers to all the four and five star players? Because they're not good enough? "You did not want him" does NOT equate to "he was not good enough to offer". There could have been a million reasons why byU did not offer, but "he was not good enough to offer" was not one of them. That is, and will always be, laughable. But you go on thinking what you want to think, the Barton brothers will eventually contribute to extending Utah's win streak over byU.

    Thanks for stopping by on a Utah story - you gave us all a good laugh.

    Go Utes!

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    June 25, 2014 10:02 p.m.

    @vegasute

    You may or may not be correct about why BYU did not offer jackson but there is no doubt why they, and for that matter every other school in the country other than utah, didn't offer his brother. I think his utah offer was a pity offer, just a bone thrown to the family. I suppose he could turn out to be a great player, I don't pretend to be an expert youtube evaluater like u-pac, hedgehog, or azute, but the fact exactly no one else has offered him, or even appears to have any interest in offering him, tells me he may not be quite the recruit his brother was.

  • Darren Rowe Heber City, UT
    June 25, 2014 11:48 p.m.

    @VegasUte

    Most four and five star recruits are not good enough for BYU. And I'm not saying they aren't good enough on the field.

    They either don't hold the academic standards or moral standards that are required for BYU, and as we all know, both are incredibly high.

    I know the academic and moral standards are also high at utah, but they are higher at BYU. If you look purely at the academic numbers, it is harder to get into BYU. And we all know the moral standards are much more strict.

    In no way am I trying to say that Jackson (or Cody) Barton is some low-down person who has low standards. I'm sure he is a tremendous guy. But there are lots of great people who do great things, but also have one or two behaviors that don't line up with BYU's strict standards.

    I guarantee you his on-field performance is good enough for BYU. I never said it wasn't. I just said that as an overall person he wasn't good enough. And I mean that as no disrespect to him in any way at all.

  • UtesBy5 Syracuse, UT
    June 25, 2014 11:49 p.m.

    @duckhunter:

    "You may or may not be correct about why BYU did not offer jackson but there is no doubt why they, and for that matter every other school in the country other than utah, didn't offer his brother. I think his utah offer was a pity offer, just a bone thrown to the family."

    Based on your "logic", Craig Bills' offer was a "pity offer"? byu just threw him a bone? Craig Bills received one offer only, from byu. Still stand by your "logic"?

    Let's all keep in mind that this is a local high school boy we are talking about here. He and his family will read the article and the posts.

    Obviously, Cody preformed well or Coach Whitt wouldn't have offered him a scholarship. In case you didn't read the article, Cody Barton was injured last year which certainly contributed to the lack of recruiting activity he normally could have received.

    Coach Whitt and his staff have a proven track record for recruiting talent. I'm betting Cody will have a great senior year and both brothers will be studs at Utah.

    Good luck Cody and Jackson!

  • UtesBy5 Syracuse, UT
    June 26, 2014 12:06 a.m.

    @swaggsdaddy:

    "If we want a player, we offer him.

    We didn't offer him, so we didn't want him. Simple as that.

    P.S. Jackson is a good player, but if Cody is the leader of utah's defense I really fear for where their program is headed."

    Apparently you are a member of the byu coaching staff based on your posts. "We didn't offer him", "we didn't want him", etc. I'm assuming you have assessed Cody's defensive talent and leadership skills as well based on your "P.S." statement. Good luck to you and your staff in your recruiting efforts.

    I look forward to watching the Barton brothers play for the Utes. I'm sure Jackson and Cody have very proud parents! Congratulations!

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 26, 2014 12:09 a.m.

    taysom4heisman on 06/25--

    "If he was really a dominant athlete, he would have lots of offers anyway. Yes, injuries may have slowed down his recruiting, but he oviously is not a complete unknown, considering utah offered him. I'm sure many other teams know him and have evaluated him. And there's a reason they haven't offered."

    t4h on 06/22--

    "There are many times where BYU offers a kid and then Pac-12 schools come along later.

    When BYU offered Fred Warner last year, he had no Pac-12 offers. After he committed, USC, ASU, Cal, Washington and WSU offered. Nebraska and Boise were among the top non Pac-12 schools who also offered.

    Similar situations happened for about half of BYU's recruiting class last season."

    The latter was to explain why the Pine View QB didn't already have a slew of P5 offers and specifically zero PAC-12 offers.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    June 26, 2014 9:00 a.m.

    @utesby5

    Ok but there are some differences, for one Bills committed as a sophomore, barton is going to be a senior. Two Bills was a 4 star recruit, barton is a no star recruit. Another is Bills was recruited by other schools, barton is not being recruited by any other schools. But other than those crucial details sure it is exactly the same.

    But as I said barton may turn out to be great, I won't pretend to know and I certainly wish him well, but the fact he is not being recruited by anyone and has no offers by anyone and has no rating by anyone, tells us he isn't considered to be any sort of prize recruit. His brother plays for utah already so it sounds to me like the utah coaches threw them a bone. Who knows there might have even been a quid pro quo based on jackson comitting.

  • BeSmart Cheyenne, WY
    June 26, 2014 9:03 a.m.

    @ vegas ute per scout
    Kody Wilstead -offer from Louisville 3 star qb
    David Lui- offer from Cal
    Devin Kaufusi- Legacy commit (similiar to Barton)
    Will Sedgewick- 30 best at his position nationwide. Dream school dream offer.
    Dayan Lake- 4 Star linebacker (has been recruited by Alabama (no offer) according to him) Committed before receiving an offer.
    Mike Tafua- ESPN 300 recruit.
    Early commits usually do not receive more offers until the fall.

  • BeSmart Cheyenne, WY
    June 26, 2014 9:05 a.m.

    Kimane Domena- BYU did not accept his commitment for some reason.

  • Wookie Omaha, NE
    June 26, 2014 9:19 a.m.

    Hypocrisy in a BYU-Utah article? Never! Can someone help me understand what PAC 10.2 means? There are 12 teams in the PAC 12 conference so I am confused by what the .2 represents. I think it is a bit old to continue this .2 bit if it is in reference to the addtion of Utah and Colorado nearly 4 years ago. If it is a dig on the U, well then it is unfounded and unsupported by wins vs losses between the U and the Y as it relates to football and soon to be basketball as well. I think of the 14 sports that the U and the Y competed in against one another the U walked away with 11 of the 14 sports this past year. So help me understand the relevancy of this reference.

    As for the Barton Brothers, welcome Cody.

    Go UTES!!!

  • East Coast Ute Storrs, CT
    June 26, 2014 10:16 a.m.

    In case people have a hard time grasping the concept: players receive recruiting interest by play on the field in season and by attending camps that coaches watch and evaluate. Cody was unable to play on the field last season, so there goes that one. Additionally, the only school he had any interest in is Utah, so theirs was the only recruiting camp he's gone to (to my knowledge). In case that's hard to understand, other schools' coaches don't attend Utah's camp. Only Utah coaches.

    I doubt there was any "bone throwing" involved, as Uaea Masina, a current scholarship player, and Osi Masina, a recruit with a scholarship offer, have another brother Lo'i who was a freshman walk on player on the team last year. In fact, another article featured Cody discussing what Whitt told him at last year's camp, that if he kept working hard and made a good showing at the next year's camp, he could have an offer coming his way. Perhaps those added pieces of info will cease some speculation, but based on those speculating, probably not.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    June 26, 2014 11:18 a.m.

    East Coast Ute:

    Logic and reason will never stop the speculation from byU "fans".

    BeSmart:

    "Early commits usually do not receive more offers until the fall."

    You may want to address that statement to your fellow "fan" Indy (to whom my post was written), who for some reason decided to mock Cody Barton for having no other offers. But, thanks for playing!

    To all the other byU "fans" flocking to yet another Utah article - thanks for your love for all things Utah - we love to see you post on each and every Utah story. Apparently Utah is very important in your lives, and we appreciate your love!

    Go Utes!!

    Go Barton Brothers!!

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    June 26, 2014 1:31 p.m.

    @east coast ute

    Of course there are always 'reasons'(excuses really) why a utah commit is so much better than the rankings or offers would imply but a BYU commit with a near identical situation is just an unathletic afterthought who no one but BYU would ever even consider according to...oh...just about every utah "fan" that posts around here. But the truth is this really isn't about the recruit.

    I'm sure whittingham and the utah coaches considered him worth a scholarship for whatever reasons they have, this is really about those hypocritical utah "fans" that on one hand try to claim every single kid that commits to utah, no matter how unheralded or unwanted by anyone else, is some sort of great stud only whittingham had the smarts to recognize but a similar commit at BYU is just dirt.

    The hypocrisy is the point around here, cody barton has very little to do with it he is just the unfortunate subject proving the point.

  • East Coast Ute Storrs, CT
    June 26, 2014 2:14 p.m.

    Mr. Hunter, of course one without a hate-filled agenda would recognize a few things from my points. First, that I never said anything about BYU. No clue why you're coming at me with that (wait, maybe I have an idea). Second, that I provided insight ("excuses" as you perceive) as to details surrounding his recruitment and scholarship offer. And lastly, that I never claimed him to be any recruiting gem or anything like that. If he had attended other recruiting camps, maybe he would've performed well enough to catch coaches' attention and receive other offers, maybe he wouldn't have. But the fact that he didn't care to go anywhere else than Utah, thus wasn't on anyone else's radar is no indictment of him as some worthless player or a "pity offer" due only to family affiliation. I don't care what your "point around here" is. MY point was to clarify misconceptions being thrown around. Good day.

  • Foul-hunter Omaha, NE
    June 26, 2014 3:06 p.m.

    East Coast Ute. Are implying that my cousin Duck-hunter as other motives behind his posts or that he is being contentions? That is absurd, he is merely starting an argument for arguments sake and showing and displaying his knowledge of the cypher. To be an honorable mention and to chose the U program for its coach says something about what Coach K is building at the U. It makes me happy to see its growth. I am disheartened to see our brothers down south have such envy and pride that their hearts have become so hardened and have waxed strong that they ignore the precepts and principles that guide them.

    Go UTES!!

  • Old But Not Stupid Moorpark, CA
    June 26, 2014 4:19 p.m.

    PacUtes
    Salt Lake, UT

    "It's not important how many stars people label on players."

    Tell that to Chris B., et.al.

  • utesgoingdownthehill Salt Lake City , UT
    June 29, 2014 3:49 p.m.

    Good luck Cody! I hope you have a great career ahead.

  • talkinsports Gilbert, AZ
    June 29, 2014 5:00 p.m.

    If the exact same 0- or 2-star recruit, with no offers from any other school had committed to BYU, instead of Utah, our little friends from the north would be rolling on the floor with laughter instead of talking about Barton like he's the greatest thing since sliced bread.

    The hypocrisy on the hill never ceases to amaze.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    June 30, 2014 10:08 a.m.

    @talkinsports

    You are exactly correct. If cody barton had instead been offered by BYU and had committed then the utah "fan" narrative would be that utah took the brother that was actually good and BYU settled on the one that is not. Evidence? Look at the Reilly brothers and the comments utah "fans" have made about them. utah took trevor so he was of course the greatest thing ever but BYU took Drew so he is worthless and below utah's standards.

    We've seen it enough around here to know how it is spun by the utah "fans".

  • UtahBruin Saratoga Springs, UT
    July 31, 2014 12:04 p.m.

    Congrats to this kid for getting to play D-1 Football with a scholarship at his dream school. Good luck to you young man! Go BRUINS!