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  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    June 12, 2014 1:56 p.m.

    Well, his career has played out about how I expected it to.

    Maybe we just need to free him from a perfect team like Chicago that plays great defense and can afford a bad defensive player and also in need of 3 point shooting.

    If Chicago couldn't make him work, who can?

    Enjoy Europe Jimmer!

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    June 12, 2014 1:56 p.m.

    That's pretty much what I have concluded. Jimmer may be a "one trick pony" but its a pretty great trick. I think he would fit in better in a "7 seconds or less" offense where he's driving to the three point line and putting up a shot rather than as a "stretch the floor" guy spotting up the corner.

    It will be interesting to see where he ends up, but I believe it will be the NBA not overseas. Still it wouldn't hurt his career to learn better defense. That's the big thing holding him back right now.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    June 12, 2014 1:57 p.m.

    I guess coach Thibodeu disagrees with the assessment of this writer.

    Who to trust, who to trust?

  • 10CC Bountiful, UT
    June 12, 2014 3:01 p.m.

    Length and athleticism are two ingredients that it's hard to substitute for in the NBA.

    Certainly, there are hundreds of very long, very athletic guys who aren't playing in the league because they can't consistently knock down an open jumper, as well.

    Jimmer may be able to provide some minutes against some teams, but given the level of athleticism in the NBA overall, his weaknesses are amplified very quickly if a team isolates him vs. a serious athlete. Against somebody like Russell Westbrook, it's coaching suicide to put Jimmer on the floor at all.

    In terms of height & weight, Jimmer is roughly the same dimensions as Andre Miller (who is at the tail end of his career), but a 4th year Andre Miller would eat Jimmer's lunch all day long, even Jimmer is clearly a better shooter and always has been.

  • Truth Machine Salt Lake City, UT
    June 12, 2014 3:03 p.m.

    Chris B

    "Well, his career has played out about how I expected it to."

    A complete fabrication.

    You claimed Jimmer wouldn't even be drafted, let alone make an NBA roster.

    Jimmer is far from finished as an NBA player... prepare to be proven wrong, yet again.

  • MarkMAN West Columbia, TX
    June 12, 2014 3:08 p.m.

    And the coach decided to let the season expire by not playing him. Ask San Antonio. They understand the importance of someone with Jimmers skills. Coach SA made an interesting comment during the last game about what is essential to win. Chicago did not agree and exited earlier.

    Mark

  • Richie Saint George, UT
    June 12, 2014 3:09 p.m.

    Jimmer might still be worth a low dollar contract.

  • What in Tucket? Provo, UT
    June 12, 2014 3:22 p.m.

    I think a lot of us thought Jimmer had a good chance to play successfully in the NBA. We also felt he had not been given much of a chance. I think he will now play in Europe and probably be very good there.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 12, 2014 3:39 p.m.

    Jimmer to the Heat and BYU to the Big 12... Get 'er done!

    According to NBA scouts/pundits/Kings/Bulls and ACC/SEC/MWC, Jimmer is a NBA player as much as BYU football is a Power 5 team.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 12, 2014 3:45 p.m.

    @Truth Machine

    Jimmer is far from finished as an NBA player... prepare to be proven wrong, yet again.

    ----------------
    Hope your a better judge of talent than some NBA scouts and pundits:

    “Jimmer Fredette has never shown that he can do all that much in the NBA....Fredette lacks the physical attributes required to play at an elite level in the NBA. “Where’s the strength? Where’s the foot quickness? Where’s the length? He’s way down in the equation physically in the NBA.” -- NBA Scout (Breitbart Sports)

    "Jimmer Fredette will be in Europe in a year or two. He has no future in the league. None. He can't create his own shot, he has a hard time coming off screens for a shot and he's not a point guard." – NBA Scout (Deseret News)

    "Until he shows more interest in defense than a blind man has in rainbows, he's going to spend most of his NBA life sitting on padded folding chairs...you think this barely 6-2 kid with no speed and YMCA hops can be the next Maravich or Ainge or Westbrook? Fredette about it."

  • Mikeylikesit Davis, UT
    June 12, 2014 3:52 p.m.

    Someone once asked me "what I had ever done to tell him how to coach" after I asked a simple question about a game outcome. Well aside from officiating hundreds of games and being involved in other ways (other than as a fan) in hundreds of others maybe, nothing, is the right answer. So many, who have a lesser pedigree, suggest that they can prognosticate whether Jimmer can stay in the NBA and other negativites that relate in anyway to BYU. When the reality is Jimmer's future and your bias's have no effect on his future or the outcomes of any sporting or life events. Period

  • DEW Cougars Sandy, UT
    June 12, 2014 4:04 p.m.

    Hey Jazz, he's open and go take him. Give him a chance when he didn't have them in Sac Town. He may not be needed as a starter or full time but he can hit a big one when needed, mark that down!

    Go Jimmer!

  • ed Los Olivos, CA
    June 12, 2014 4:38 p.m.

    He could be a Celtic, next year.

  • IQ92 hi, UT
    June 12, 2014 4:39 p.m.

    Not much of an analysis that does't include the second half of the game, namely defense. Or is this a two part article?

  • 1978 Salt Lake City, UT
    June 12, 2014 4:43 p.m.

    And to think... This player who may not be good enough to make it in the NBA dropped 47 pts on Utah in the Huntsman Center enroute to a 104-79 BYU blowout over Utah on the road.

    Imagine how lopsided the game would have been if he were an "NBA" talent.

  • Utah'95 FPO, AE
    June 12, 2014 5:34 p.m.

    I am a Utah fan who would like to see Jimmer succeed, but I don't think he has the skill set to do it at the NBA level.

    When he enters free agency, we will see how he is perceived by people who make a living judging NBA talent.

  • AFCoug Colorado Springs, CO
    June 12, 2014 6:08 p.m.

    He is better than any PG on the Jazz. Burke hit what, 33% from distance and 38% over all. And the Jazz gave him extended minutes. His defense was questionable at best as well and he got eaten alive by the athletic guards in the league. Burke is shorter than Jimmer and just as un-athletic as Jimmer and yet so many Ute/Jazz fans are cheering for Burke. Personally I would love to see Jimmer return to Utah and once he opened up the Jazz offense and spread the floor, something the Jazz have not done well for several years, all the Ute fans slamming him would end up loving him. Go jazz and Go Jimmer!

  • Missouri loves BYU Lebanon, MO
    June 12, 2014 6:27 p.m.

    The fact that so many anti-jimmers jump on every article about Jimmer shows that he is still relevant. If nobody really cared there would be no point in commenting. Jimmer has game and he will find his place. He earned his place in history of great college basektball players. What happens in the NBA is a differnt chapeter of a differnt book. He is a class act. Always has been and always will be. Good luck to Jimmer and go Cougars!

  • Tenn12 Orem, UT
    June 12, 2014 6:49 p.m.

    Jimmer is easily an NBA player he just hasn't had the right situation. He is a shooter and shooters always have a place but it has to be with the right team. That being said, even I, a Jimmer fan, am a bit weary of these articles every month arguing about Jimmer. Can we move on?

  • CO Ute PARKER, CO
    June 12, 2014 7:22 p.m.

    @1978 - just imagine how bad the 54-10 game could have been if Utah had an NFL caliber QB.

    Jimmer was a very good college player and you don't see any comments from U fans regarding his college results. That doesn't mean he is going to make it in the NBA. He hasn't broken trough with two teams and will possibly have a chance for a third try next year. If he doesn't get playing time next season, it will be time to go to Europe.

  • GACougar Atlanta, GA
    June 12, 2014 9:19 p.m.

    Go Jimmer!

    I would express a stronger view point but the kind and loving people that screen these comments would almost surely deem them worthless while allowing others to state highly objectionable viewpoints without the same limitations.

  • John Jackson Sandy, UT
    June 12, 2014 9:37 p.m.

    Enjoyed this article. Neat to hear Jimmer was 47 percent from the floor this year, and 47 percent from 3-point range, and that he had a positive win share on defense.

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    June 12, 2014 9:48 p.m.

    Chris B
    Salt Lake City, UT
    IndianaCoug,

    He'll be in a Euro league within 2 years. Mark it down.

    May 11, 2011

  • rvalens2 Burley, ID
    June 12, 2014 9:51 p.m.

    Fredette just needs to find a team who will understand how and when to use him. Given the right situation, I think he'd prove to be a valuable asset.

    I'd even be fine with the Jazz picking him up for reasonably low price. Given the number of openings the Jazz have on the roster, it wouldn't be much of a gamble. And he would certainly sell a ton of tickets for the Jazz. It's a no-brainer to take the risk.

  • IndeMak South Jordan, UT
    June 12, 2014 10:31 p.m.

    Jimmer is a good player. He just needs to be taller, faster and play defense.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 12, 2014 11:01 p.m.

    1978
    Salt Lake City, UT

    And to think... This player who may not be good enough to make it in the NBA dropped 47 pts on Utah in the Huntsman Center enroute to a 104-79 BYU blowout over Utah on the road.

    Imagine how lopsided the game would have been if he were an "NBA" talent.

    -------------

    That's like saying imagine how lopsided the 54-10 game would have been if Wynn was a PAC-12 QB.

  • Herbert Gravy Salinas, CA
    June 12, 2014 11:02 p.m.

    I think Jimmer is quite happy with his current "roomie".

  • kaysvillecougar KAYSVILLE, UT
    June 12, 2014 11:44 p.m.

    Most of us thought a change to Chicago would "free" him. Every time Jimmer entered the game, it was electric. Earlier in his NBA career he did seem lost on defense. But I watched his 2 games where he played more than 15 min. with Chicago and he was great on defense. Great effort. He anticipated, hustled, threw his body around. I'm not an NBA coach, but when someone scores 25 pts one game and doesn't play the next 3 games, I just don't get that reasoning. One of those games in Chicago, I watched Noah and Boozer giving him high 5's, the crowd was giving it to him (opposite of the disgusting response you Ute fans give when he comes to ESA) and he was loose. Maybe Jimmer is disinterested in defense during practice. I don't know, but he still hasn't been given a chance. And for a team that was scraping the bottom of the barrel offensively, you would have thought Tibbidow would bend over backwards to stretch the floor, put Jimmer on the perimeter to open up the inside. Good luck Jimmer. Keep your head up.

  • AggieAndee Holladay, UT
    June 13, 2014 12:09 a.m.

    Jimmer's one of the biggest lottery busts in the history of the NBA draft. BYU failed him for not teaching him how to play any defense at all. Yep, it's BYU's fault.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    June 13, 2014 12:22 a.m.

    Egg and Crow Meat have become a food staple for ute fans... They live on it... Jimmer is just another serving...

    Anytime that Jimmer has gotten minutes he has delivered... He has not only done well but his team has as well... On a few occasions when all seemed lost and Malone was throwing in the towel and Jimmer was put on the floor he nearly brought his team back for a "W" (one of those times was last year in the staple center)...

    Fredette will play in the NBA next season... He will probably even stay with the Bulls but wherever he goes he will offer something that there is little of in this league... Teamwork and Individual Scoring Power off the bench... A game changer...

    So to my ute fan friends get ready for yet another serving of your favorite dish... Egg for the face and Crow for the tummy. But as I have said before that is a diet that you have grown accustomed to....

  • Sneaky Jimmy Bay Area, CA
    June 13, 2014 12:36 a.m.

    If that Jazz had Jimmer they would have won 5 more games minimum. They blew so many leads in the last 5 minutes because they have no one with the confidence to play smart. The Jazz offense in the last half of the 4th quarter consisted of 'run around and dribble until there was 1 second on the clock and then throw up a prayer'. You could use Jimmer to hold the ball if the other team in fouling - guaranteed free throws or put him in the corner for a 3 if you need to score. He has been misused and pure shooters are a rare commodity in any league.

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    June 13, 2014 12:59 a.m.

    @AFCoug

    To say Fredette is better than Trey Burke is outlandish. And then you said Burke is not athletic. I don't know what to say there.

    Some stats (Jimmer's shooting) is misleading. He doesn't take a lot of shots, get many minutes, or receive any defensive attention to shut him down. Full time starters and real scoring threats get defenses to focus on shutting them down.

    This belief that Jimmer can be a solid NBA player based on his shooting range reminds me of BYU football fans who think they have the better team because the had more total yards in games they lose. The complete package is not there. Jimmer can't play defense at all or create his own shot in the NBA like he did in college. Also, he is not a NBA PG, can't run a team, is to short to play SG and is slow. As for BYU football, yardage between the 20 yard lines (both sides of the field) and RED zone offense inside the opponents 20 yard line are different animals/yards as well.

  • The Rock Federal Way, WA
    June 13, 2014 6:29 a.m.

    If Jimmer had played for the U Chris B. would sound exactly like the Cougars do here.

    Who to believe, who to believe...

  • Idahotransplant West Jordan, UT
    June 13, 2014 8:16 a.m.

    Its about timing and location.....if he had not gone to the Kings and ended up with say a team like San Antonio, things may have been different......during the Olympic team work outs Jimmer was part of, Kevin Durrant said(tweeted) some nice things about him, K.Leonard of the Spurs has said great things about him as well. Chicago got him late in the season where it takes time for players to learn a system, let alone defensive schemes. I am not making excuses for him but a different venue, a different coach(like Poppovich), teammates who are team oriented (a law the Spurs) could help....it can be the system as well.

    I do however agree he has to improve on his foot speed and defense.....

  • Doug10 Roosevelt, UT
    June 13, 2014 8:26 a.m.

    Jimmer ate Kawhi Leonards lunch twice while playing in the NCAA. One player continued to progress and is playing at the highest level

    No way in the world is Jimmer even in the same ball park as Kawhi who guards the worlds best basketball player at the same time as he is scoring 19 ppg in the NBA finals

  • rlsintx Plano, TX
    June 13, 2014 8:38 a.m.

    He'll end up with the celtics. you wait.

  • BJMoose Syracuse, UT
    June 13, 2014 8:43 a.m.

    Posted by 1978:
    And to think... This player who may not be good enough to make it in the NBA dropped 47 pts on Utah in the Huntsman Center enroute to a 104-79 BYU blowout over Utah on the road.

    People keep harking back to that one magical night in Fredettes college career. I remember the very first year the Jazz came to Utah they had a 10th round pick (yes the NBA draft was 10 rounds back then) named Paul Dawkins who made the team. He also had one magical night when he dropped 30 points on Portland in one half hitting 13 of 15 shots. He played for the Jazz for one year and also was never heard of again.
    From Wikipedia:
    Following his collegiate career, Dawkins was drafted in the 10th round of the 1979 NBA Draft by the Utah Jazz. Dawkins appeared in 57 games while averaging 13.6 minutes and 5.5 points per game. He scored 30 points in one half during a game against the Portland Trail Blazers, making 13 of 15 shots from the field.

  • Wally West SLC, UT
    June 13, 2014 8:49 a.m.

    So, Lebron won't be recruiting Jimmer to head to S Beach?

  • Lermentov PROVO, UT
    June 13, 2014 8:51 a.m.

    I keep hearing about defensive statistics. I would be interested in knowing how one evaluates statistics defensively. This article keeps us in the dark (as do most articles) about the details. Someone please explain!

  • Cletus from Coalville Coalville, UT
    June 13, 2014 9:36 a.m.

    We seen Jimmer win us bad that one time when he got lucky for 47 points in our house but that was just luck and it don’t mean he can play in the NBA because it was luck.

    Go Utes!

  • There You Go Again Saint George, UT
    June 13, 2014 9:44 a.m.

    Look at the salaries of the last players on each team.

    Look at the value of NBA franchises.

    There is not a team in the NBA (bottom dwellers especially) who could not afford a shooter.

    Jimmer is a shooter.

    Placed with the right team...

    You never know...

  • 1978 Salt Lake City, UT
    June 13, 2014 9:49 a.m.

    BJMoose commented:

    "People keep harking back to that one magical night in Fredettes college career."

    With all due respect I wouldn't even list it as one of his top three performances in college.

    The top three would be:

    52 pts. against New Mexico in the MWC tournament.
    49 pts. against Arizona in the McHale Center enroute to a 99-69 victory.
    43 pts. against undefeated #4 San Diego State.

    All of the above teams were more highly rated than Utah when they played them.

  • BlueHusky Mission Viejo, CA
    June 13, 2014 11:05 a.m.

    Jimmer brought me back to college hoops. First I ever heard about him was when channel surfing I caught the last half of the Arizona game. Jimmer drops 48 or so and I was hooked! Signed up for the Mtn and recorded every game.

    I can see Jimmer in the Knicks new Triangle offense. Like Steve Kerr, Jimmer could be a game changer there. Phil Jackson knows how to use shooters.

    As for Europe: I'd love to play hoops in Europe for a living. I know former Utah star Luke Nevill. He's played in Russia, Australia, Taiwan. Great guy and is enjoying his world travels. His wife is the daughter of a friend of mine, and she likes it too. Great experience. I'd do it in a heartbeat if I were Jimmer.

    P.S. Another friend of mine has a daughter at BYU who married (gasp!) a UofU defensive back ... Turns out he's a great guy too. Dang.

  • gharmons Helendale, CA
    June 13, 2014 11:49 a.m.

    Chris B. must have nothing to do except find articles about BYU or the LDS Church and then make nasty remarks. Every time I take the time to follow down to the Comments, he is there with nothing positive to say.

  • Wookie Omaha, NE
    June 13, 2014 12:20 p.m.

    Honest assessment after having watched Jimmer play several times this past year. He can shoot the ball, anyone arguing this point should keep their mouth closed. However, he is slow, really really slow. He can't create his own shot. He can in transition when the defenders aren't set but off the dribble he doesn't have it. Which leads me to my analysis on his defense, or lack thereof. He is to slow. Slow slow slow. He gets burned, looks lost, and flat out just gets beat. He is a good kid with a lot of talent when it comes to scoring, but other than that, he is at best a bench player with 3-7 minutes a game, which most of us on here would love the money he makes working that hard.

    Go UTES!!

  • jmn2dmb41 Sammamish, WA
    June 13, 2014 2:43 p.m.

    Ya the Ute fans love to jump on the Jimmer articles. They are still oh so bitter at what he did to their team. Did the Utes ever beat Jimmer? Who knows how many times the Utes lost against Jimmer?

  • Goldminer Salem, ut
    June 13, 2014 3:45 p.m.

    I wish the Jazz had taken him; he be a big money maker in SLC.

  • ed Los Olivos, CA
    June 13, 2014 3:55 p.m.

    Can we hear some more from Cletus?

  • 4Freedom Columbus, OH
    June 13, 2014 5:19 p.m.

    Fredette has not been given a chance because he is a Caucasian American. The NBA does not favor white American players, even if they have talent. Overseas players are fine. You think it preposterous? Think again.

  • CTJ fan Salt Lake City, UT
    June 13, 2014 5:37 p.m.

    Jimmer needs a good situation and once that happens it will be clear sailing. He couldn't have been put in a worse situation starting his career with the Kings, talk about a cancer, may be the worst franchise in sports. In Chicago I don't feel he was ever given a shot, but then again most of Chicago's bench doesn't get a shot. Thibadeau is a great defensive coach and a decent head coach, but doesn't know how to use the strengths of his players, and doesn't show faith in many of his players. San Antonio would allow Jimmer to shine. He can play serviceable defense, this is the NBA, there's lots of NBA players who play no defense but are considered good players. So it's going to be about a team that understands basketball to use his talents. He may not be an all pro player but I think he could be a very good NBA player.

  • BJMoose Syracuse, UT
    June 13, 2014 5:54 p.m.

    For 1978 and in all due respect to you also. In your first post you did not mention the games you thought exceeded the Utah effort. It was the only one mentioned. And in previous posts on Fredette that I have read about on this site it is always the Utah game that is brought up by the various posters. Your top three are games I was unaware of, not following BYU to much of any degree. Still can't see him ever being more than a bench player and some instant offense when needed. He is just too one dimensional.

  • 3GrandKeys Walnut Creek, CA
    June 13, 2014 6:00 p.m.

    Finally started looking good on D in that last game with Chicago. Maybe he'll land some extended minutes there or somewhere else now. We'll see...

  • LovelyDeseret Gilbert, AZ
    June 13, 2014 10:38 p.m.

    White slower guards in the NBA really don't have a spot in this athletic era. He needs to be the showcase and that won't happen since he a slow white guard.

  • ed Los Olivos, CA
    June 13, 2014 11:35 p.m.

    LovelyDeseret-
    He only looks slow because you have to blink, every time you look at him. It is the complexion. Or, maybe it is just because everyone else on the court is so darn fast. Where is Cletus on this subject?

    Seriously, I think he will have a good NBA career. The league really needs a few players with good character.

  • John Wicks Salt Lake City, UT
    June 14, 2014 3:48 a.m.

    Jimmer is better than anyone on the Jazz team!!!!

  • blue & white Boise, ID
    June 14, 2014 7:01 a.m.

    coach Thibodeu I think didn't use Jimmer to has advantage, he reminded me of a stubborn coach afraid to try something new in the playoffs. Jimmer would have helped the Bulls get to another round. I hope coach Thibodeu doesn't go to the Lakers. Jimmer is a NBA caliber player.
    On another subject BYU football is a Power 5 talent team, better than half of the power 5 football teams. The ACC and SEC made the statement because in the power 5 there is enough lower talent, the Yutes of the world, the higher ranked teams can schedule and tout look at how many power 5 teams we beat. In the end the good ol boy committee can falsely justify their decision for the 4 play off teams. After a few years of # 5 and # 6 not getting in things will change. Its too bad we have to wait any longer. Cut to the chase and schedule a 16 team playoff.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    June 14, 2014 4:50 p.m.

    Obviously from all of the negative comments about Jimmer it's clear his half court shot still stings.

    Give up the hate, it's really pathetic after all this time.

    Pay him the respect he deserves... good grief.

  • cmsense Kaysville, UT
    June 15, 2014 8:01 a.m.

    Cmon Jazz. A bargain price for a great shooter! The average attendance should go up a couple thousand per game and I'm pretty sure with all that fan support his numbers would go up. Bring him off the bench.

    It may be a small circus, but people go to the circus because of the entertainment value. Hey, Jimmer is a great person and wonderful guy to have around for fan relations. Throw us a bone. You owe us fans after the product you put up last season.

  • NaturelyBYU Salem, UT
    June 15, 2014 4:47 p.m.

    10CC,

    "...his weaknesses are amplified very quickly if a team isolates him vs. a serious athlete..." Perhaps maybe like a kawhi leonard?? Who is now on a team competing in the NBA finals, an is consistently matched up against the best player on the court, Lebron James because of his athleticism and ability to defend. If I recall right, this same kawhi Leonard and team got torched by Jimmer Fredette with 43 points. I'm not so sure Jimmer has much of a problem with isolation against top defenders. Jimmer is a scorer. That's why he was drafted. The stats don't lie. I don't care how many minutes he got, the fact of the matter is that he was efficient and productive whenever he was on the court. Particularly in the last two years. Given a chance, with more minutes, I believe he will continue to produce for teams in the NBA. He can score against too defenders. Just ask Kawhi Leonard, one of the op defender for the Spurs.

  • FanOfTheSith Vernal, UT
    June 15, 2014 5:15 p.m.

    Things do work out and sometimes do not. The best of luck to the Jimmer wherever he goes.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 15, 2014 9:47 p.m.

    @sammyg

    Obviously from all of the negative comments about Jimmer it's clear his half court shot still stings.

    Give up the hate, it's really pathetic after all this time.

    Pay him the respect he deserves... good grief.

    --------------

    Care to tell us what has Jimmer done to deserve respect in the NBA?

    Kawhi Leonard deserves respect, 2014 Champion and Finals MVP. Jimmer is just an over-hyped, below average NBA player according to NBA scouts/pundits:

    "Finally, the Jimmer was unveiled as 90 percent media creation, 10 percent basketball prodigy. No reasonable person can watch Jimmer and Kemba, and tell me Jimmer's in the same league. Laughable. The Jimmer and that hype is done! That guy, trust me, is coming to an NBA bench near you."

  • TheNun Granstville, UT
    June 16, 2014 7:46 a.m.

    Yes, Jimmer "only needs to find the right team", and much like St. Jake, it appears as if he is going to go through every one before it's proven, the "right" team is not in the NBA

  • KimmyP Granstville, UT
    June 16, 2014 9:04 a.m.

    uteology,

    You are correct, the sting from a 20 point beat down, by a mid-level pac 12 team, obviously still hurts. But, yet, people still talk about the glorious past like it was yesterday, 1984, anyone?

  • Man in Charge Chihuahua, 00
    June 16, 2014 10:29 a.m.

    Once rivals have taken totally different turns in the NBA.

    Leonard now has a championship and was the Finals MVP.

    Jimmer is riding the pine and on his way to Germany.

  • Anti Bush-Obama Chihuahua, 00
    June 16, 2014 10:32 a.m.

    cmnsense

    "Cmon Jazz. A bargain price for a great shooter! The average attendance should go up a couple thousand per game and I'm pretty sure with all that fan support his numbers would go up. Bring him off the bench.

    It may be a small circus, but people go to the circus because of the entertainment value. Hey, Jimmer is a great person and wonderful guy to have around for fan relations. Throw us a bone. You owe us fans after the product you put up last season."

    Really? I thought the Jazz wanted to get better and not pacify one portion of their delusional fanbase. CJ Wilcox is local and He isn't proven yet. Why not him? Jimmer has blown it with 2 teams.

  • Anti Bush-Obama Chihuahua, 00
    June 16, 2014 10:36 a.m.

    NaturleyBYU

    " I believe he will continue to produce for teams in the NBA. He can score against too defenders. Just ask Kawhi Leonard, one of the op defender for the Spurs."

    I bet he has forgotten all about Jimmer by now. Since that silly little college feud he is onto bigger and better things. Jimmer can score against 2 defenders in Europe.

  • 2BCSWINS West of I15, UT
    June 17, 2014 8:08 a.m.

    @POYWOMAN

    "Anytime that Jimmer has gotten minutes he has delivered... He has not only done well but his team has as well... Fredette will play in the NBA next season... He will probably even stay with the Bulls but wherever he goes he will offer something that there is little of in this league... Teamwork and Individual Scoring Power off the bench... A game changer..."

    LOL...Classic cougie fan blind logic. Jimmers minutes mostly come in garbage time hard to get anything out of that. As far as you saying Jimmer and teamwork in the same sentence has to be the funniest thing I've read all year. The guy was the biggest ball hog in college basketball history! All cougie fans say teams need a shooter well Jimmer isn't a shooter only reason he seems that way is because he took 50 shots a game look back at college box scores more often than not he shot 35% or less from field!