This is awesome! Good job Presidents.
Sorry, I know they meant well, but in my opinion this is not the right way to
connect with the youth.I believe it was James E Faust who mentioned in a
talk that the Bishop should not get in the dunk tank at the ward carnival. It is
not the man, it is the priesthood office that shouldn't be made light of. I
feel that the same principle applies here.
I thought it was Great. The video was nice.
Reminded of a time where our bishopric in Saudi Arabia in 1987 put together an
original rap and performed it for the ward (no, not in Sacrament meeting).And Mack2828, I remember Elder LeGrand Richards telling us to remember
Rule 6: Don't take yourself so darn seriously.
Brilliant. Might not be terribly original in concept but I'm sure it left
a positive connections with many kids who might not think twice about the
Everyone's entitled to their own opinions, but SERIOUSLY, Mack2828?? I
think you need to lighten-up just a wee bit and actually let yourself enjoy the
spirit intended behind the video...connecting with the youth on their level,
making them WANT to attend youth conference, and letting them know that NOW is
the time to be HAPPY (and that it's through the gospel that they can do
that)! They were not dancing or singing in the chapel or on the temple grounds,
or even in the church building so far as I could tell. I commend them for doing
something fun, yet appropriate, to motivate their youth, and I just bet they
earned tons of respect from the youth while they were doing it!
If you want to connect with the youth, or with anyone under forty for that
matter, don't clap on 1 and 3.
Major props to the Presidency. I know it would take a whole lot of courage to do
something like that. I remember a few years ago, when my then YSA bishop and his
second counselor joined in our Improv night for FHE. It was pretty awesome to
see! We all loved that Bishop so much, I think in part, due to how he talked and
acted just like us! He was the CES director for all of Canada, and he definitely
knew how to have fun and connect with us.
What a fun stake presidency! My 14 yo son watched the video and
thinks that it makes the leaders more accessible. He, also, said that he thinks
it's important to show that Mormons can have fun.
To all naysayers who feel this was inappropriate I share one thing that
influenced my perspective in life when I was younger. When I was called as a
full-time missionary I was given some advice by a General Authority. I was very
excited when he said he had one piece of advice for me because I looked to him
as a spiritual giant. I knew him as serious and an example of someone who must
clearly understand his role in life. Anything I could hear from him would surely
be worth remembering! As all the possibilities of what he might say rushed
through my head in a brief few seconds I was stunned to hear him say "have
fun". He expounded on it a bit and basically said, do what you are there to
do but at the end of the day know that you had fun in the process and can smile
and be happy.
I'll be straight with you Mack. Your approach of solemn and ridiculously
overdone seriousness will not connect with today's youth. I hope you do not
hold office but if you do I'm glad it's in Kentucky and not somewhere
you could do real damage.
Mack2828 -The dunk tank is problematic because by its basic nature,
it is disrespectful - the person throwing is taking a position of power over the
person in the tank. So, yes - Bishops should not be in a dunk tank. However, this video is light-hearted and uplifting, and is exactly the kind of
thing I could see Joseph Smith doing. If he wasn't compromising his office
by playing ball with the kids, then this inspired Presidency members aren't
compromising their offices by reaching out to the Youth in this way.Having fun is not inherently demeaning to an office in the Church. After all,
President Monson wiggled his ears *in General Conference*. :)
Mack, let's stack the James Foust / Mack approach up against the LeGrand /
Monson approach and see who retains more youth participation shall we?
I think President Monson wiggling his ears in General Conference trumps Bishop
in the dunk tank. Faust would most likely have been a little urked by that
display in Conference. Good thing he served with President Hinckley who had a
great sense of humor to counter balance President Faust. A Bishop in a dunk
tank doesn't make me respect the office any less.Everyone needs
to lighten up. After all Ceice did his lip sync thing at the Y.
Here is the quote from Pres. Faust: “Our bishop was a good
sport, and because he was responsible for raising the money, he willingly
consented to sit on the dunking seat. Soon some began to buy balls and to throw
them at the target. Several hit the mark, and the bishop was drenched. After
half an hour of this, he began to shake with the cold. While some of the people
thought this was great fun, my father was very offended that the office of the
bishop had been so belittled and held up to ridicule or even contempt. Even
though the money raised was intended for a good cause, I can still remember
feeling ashamed that some of our people did not show more respect for both the
office and the man who had by night and day served us so well as our good
shepherd.”I think there is a fundamental difference between
the situation cited and these (new) stake presidency members trying to just
break the ice with their youth.
I loved the video. I thought it was respectful, fun and on task with their
office. I am grateful and sustain anyone who magnifies their calling and
connects with my son to help me get him on a mission and be a good husband and
father. I also loved the fact that they put the bloopers in the end
showing them as real humans - messing up the steps, laughing and showing the
work put in to get it the way it needed to be. Great Job Presidents!
I love it that they did it all in their white shirts. Our bishopric
participates in many of our youth activities in their shirts & ties, and I
get the same feeling from this Stake Presidency. Also, think what a bonding
experience this was for these men. We can feel sure they'll be working
well together for the next several years.
Men are just boys at heart. When we forget to have fun in the gospel we've
lost something important like... the spirit of it. This did not demean
Priesthood keys or office held by those men. It was a gesture of cheerfulness
and... well, being HAPPY! The youth of that Stake are lucky to have those
men...men that love the youth and want them to know they are with them now,
today. And, that they are approachable and sincere. For me, they modeled the
virtues and results of having peace of mind and conscience. When we are clean,
we are at peace...when we are at peace we are happy.
I just wonder if they had consent or legal rights to do the video from Pharrell
Williams.He is the originator of the song and video, "Happy!"
They did an amazing job!! this is such an awesome way to connect with youth.
I'm with you, Mack2828.I remember an article I read while I was
going through the Seminary teaching program at BYU; my best guess is that it was
a reprinted talk given to church educators, I think by Elder Packer. He told of
flying in for a stake conference and being met at the airport by the Stake
presidency, who were dressed in shorts and casual shirts. When they were in
private, Elder Packer asked if this was how they typically dressed. The stake
president told him No, that they just figured that "dressing down" would
help them relate better to the youth. Elder Packer's reply was something
along the line of "Your youth don't need you to try to relate to them
in this way; they need you to lead them. They don't need you to be their
friends; they need you to be their leaders."Some may argue you
can be both friend and leader, or friend and parent, etc., but I think both
President Faust and Elder Packer (?) were making a similar point.I
realize your's isn't a popular opinion, Mack2828, but it's one I
I think that Mack has a point - but its not quite the point he was trying to
make.Semi-Strong's quote made it much clearer.I didn't
take Pres Faust's story to mean that the Bishop shouldn't have gotten
into the dunk tank - in fact he said he was a good sport for doing it. I think
he was criticising the members who would dunk and laugh at the Bishop.I
think the thing that would have earned Pres Faust's approval would have
been for the Bishop to have gotten into the tank - showing he could be a good
sport - and then for the members to all deliberately miss the target to ensure
that their Bishop was never humiliated and show how much they respected the
Hey Mack is in my stake-and I have grandkids that age. In my book that's
real damage! Lighten up Mack! BTW, I knew James E. Faust-and he could have a
good time, too. He was not a stick in the mud. His connection with this youth
is one of the reasons I have grandkids who are still in the church today.
Oh my goodness! Way to go Presidents! You guys practiced a bunch and even had a
choreographer! This was a great, great way to connect to the youth! I am certain
that they thoroughly enjoyed this video and your efforts. I am so impressed.
Having known, then, Bishop Alquist, to be a quiet and somewhat serious person, I
enjoyed this video even more, to see him go above and beyond to invite the youth
to youth conference. Youth conference strengthens and sometimes even changes
lives. But, first, the youth must show up! Thank you all for your strong, worthy
and amazing efforts! I LOVE THIS CHURCH! And thanks for sharing the
bloopers….so funny and fun to watch!
The video is fun.....:)
Instead of helping our youth be more mature, rational, and cognizant of the
dangers surrounding them, especially to help prepare them for the trials
awaiting our nation, you can see how the American generations are slowly
becoming more child-like, immitators of pop-culture. Where are the real leaders
today? Read Isaiah to find out where they are. Rational thought, real
spiritual thought uninfluenced by the world, is a rare virtue these days.
Obviously they havn't heard Pharrells *other* musical offerings. Not
exactly the role model I'd hold out for my kids considering the
mysoginistic and blatantly sexual nature of his 'music'. Blurred
Lines? Really the visual you want to promote with your daughters? I set a
standard of music in my house and he doesn't measure up because I look at
the full body of what they do, not just one offering.
Love it! Especially the outtakes!Dena Brett