Jazz can't even tank right. Look for a barely make or miss the playoffs
kind of year.
Even if the Jazz had received the first pick of the draft I am guessing they
would have missed the boat on the best available. However I disagree with Rock
that there are three sure fire can't miss players in this draft. Wiggins,
Embiid, and Parker may all be yearly all stars, but they may also be complete
flops or get injured and never live up to the hype. Consider Greg Oden, Michael
Beasly or Hasheem Thabeet. All of these in the last few years were
"can't miss" prospects whose career never took off. All three of
this years fab frosh have glaring holes in their game (Wiggins doesn't take
the big shot, Embiid has a bad back and Parker doesn't play D). What they
do now that they are in the league will determine whether or not they become
something special or just another millionaire who COULD have been huge.
Maybe whomever the Jazz pick at five in ten years in some draft re-do is the
overall number one pick. Or maybe, like last year, the Jazz do whatever they do
and some version of Michael Carter Williams makes everyone else look just plain
stupid. The fact that Lindsey and all the other Jazz brass are tooting their
horn for moving up to pick the third best PG in last years draft (I count
Oladipo as a PG since that is what Orlando wants him to play) while leaving ROY
Michael Carter Williams on the draft board an indication that the Jazz fail
again.At least we have a second round pick, the Jazz always mine a gem in
the second round.
I'm not sure the Jazz get any better at all from this draft. The best
players available are all post players, and the Jazz are already
"developing" Favors and Kanter at those positions. No chance they make
the playoffs (or even close) next season, unless they somehow talk their way
into the Eastern Conference.
If it's any consolation, the top pick hasn't done much for the
I like the Jazz position at number five. It does provide options, although not
the ones that was mentioned in the article. We have avoided the circus that will
center around the Parker, Wiggins, Embiid sweepstakes and likely won't get
Dante Exxom, a relatively unknown Australian. However, some of the most athletic
players in combine history will be available such as Noah Vonleh and Zach
Lavine. We should avoid Julius Randle who hasn't the athleticism of these
others (plus we don't need him anyway) and focus on a position player at 23
which there should be several good options. If the Jazz pick right, they should
find players that will very much complement what we already have. Granted they
will be young, but the draft is for the future. With acquiring a couple of
credible free agents, I think we should be fine this coming year.
Lots of talk in the article about moving up in the draft; why not move down?
Seems the Jazz have quite the youth movement, and it hasn't worked out
well. Trade down for some quality veteran players!
I was super bummed out by last night, and i hope they can trade up for Parker,
but doubt that happens. If the stay at #5, i'd say Aaron Gordon or Julius
Randle, and then maybe a Cleanthony Early or Kyle Anderson at #23.
If this draft is really as deep as it's supposed to be, picking at five
could still yield you a very good player, and there will be good options left at
23. Which, if any of these guys ends up as a franchise player for a contending
team is anyone's guess. I'm not close to 100% sure on Parker, Wiggins,
Gordon, Randle, etc as future superstars. Certainly they seem like they'll
be at least very good pros, but perennial all-stars? You don't know. I
don't know. The "experts" don't know. Certainly Cleveland
doesnt' know (see last year's #1 pick).Hiring the right
coach will likely have just as much effect, if not more, than the draft. Just do
your homework, pick the best guy available, don't make any panic trades,
and see what happens.
It appears I'll finally have to break down and offer my services as a
luck-filled team representative when our next lottery pick opportunity happens
via the ping-pong balls. It's obvious a change is needed from
always sending one of the Millers. Money doesn't always equate to luck.
We've been fortunate just to hold a previous slot, let alone move up. Sad,
but true. We literally had a 10 times better chance at getting the #1 pick than
Cleveland had, and look what happened!I'll be waiting to hear
from you, Greg.
The implication is that any pick below the top three cannot be a superstar. I
remember when Karl Malone was drafted with the 13th pick. I also remember when
John Stockton was drafted with the 16th pick. The draft is a crap shoot and
there are more than three players that will be strong players in the league.
@ guam_bomb Actually one of those number one picks did a lot for them. Lebron
James took them to the finals.
This is a huge loss for the Jazz. They could get lucky and pick someone that no
one thought would be great. That is unlikely. This is a good draft, but only 4
great prospects. Jazz picking at 5th guarantees they will be stuck in
mediocrity for a long time. It's still near impossible to get quality free
agents to come to Salt Lake. The draft was their best chance and now it is
over. Oh well, we have the Utes. Oh, they don't have a chance either.
Getting Randle at 4 or 5 is still a win-win....and if he joins the Church, Jazz
just won the lottery!
Brad Rock, are you kidding me? You'd complain if you lost out on a date
with Miss America and had to "settle" for a date with the 5th runner
up!So, the Jazz are luckless because they didn't get the first
pick or remain at the #4 pick? Oh, woe is us! We must suffer through another
draft with only the number 5 and 23 picks in a draft purportedly to be as deep
with talent as it ever has been. I suppose it's too much to ask if Rock can
remember who the Jazz drafted at the #16 spot in the 1984 or the the number 13
spot in 1985 NBA draft? Stockton and Malone. Two NBA Hall of Fame players who
were not drafted in the top 10 of their respective drafts. Yeah, those two were
sure a bust, weren't they? So, I can understand why there is
such weeping and wailing because with only the 5th, 23 and 35 pick the Jazz
won't find anything more than a journeyman player because there are only
four real prospects with superstar potential. Luckless Jazz indeed.
Just wondering, if the Jazz would have the first pick, which player will they
get? Lottery need to go away.
@32843Thanks for the history lesson. I'm sure we've all
forgotten about those draft picks that happened 30 yrs ago. On the other hand,
our more recent draft picks have been #3 Kanter, #3 Favors, and #9 Hayward which
have all turned out to be superstars right ? Come back to reality with the rest
of us. The draft lottery was definitely a big loss for the Jazz. Hopefully,
Dennis Lindsey will be able to package our picks with other assets to move up in
I don't know what the Jazz want to do with Favors and Kanter, if they want
to keep both and think they can coexist and perform at a high rate then I
wouldn't take Vonleh or Randle , I would go with Gordon or Saric, that
being said the Jazz may be able to move down and get more assets and still get
those two I mentioned. Gordon is soo interesting, he is a great athlete, does
so many things well but shooting and that could be a deal breaker. He is a hard
worker with a great motor , so maybe, Karl Malone wasn't a good shooter out
of college but nobody outworked Karl. If Gordon will work as hard as Malone he
can fix his shot. Saric is not the athlete but he is very talented, smart, and a
leader with great skills, especially for a 6'10 player, he's a good
passer, which is a trait I love, he makes others better.