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BYU basketball: Former Utah State forward Kyle Davis transferring to BYU

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  • oddman ,
    May 16, 2014 5:38 a.m.

    What is his size? What is the reaction of Coach Rose? Obviously he is welcomed but I'm curious how he will enhance the star studded group that will be collected for 2015-1016. What is his reason for transferring?

    whqt

  • Mark321 Las Vegas, NV
    May 16, 2014 6:14 a.m.

    This is a good pickup for BYU. Kyle Davis was a pretty good player for the Aggies last year and was an absolute work horse. My only concern is injuries that he incurred last season but with a full year recuperating for the following season, he should be good to go. In addition, the 4 position has been the weakest position for BYU to fill lately ever since Hartsock left. Averaging 9.1 points and 7.6 rebounds in 25 minutes of play is a pretty good average. I hope he likes up-tempo because it's the complete opposite philosophy from Coach Morrill's slow pace half-court set.

  • md Cache, UT
    May 16, 2014 6:19 a.m.

    Going from a starting position at Utah State to sitting out for a year at BYU with no idea if he will start for the Cougars. I get it. BYU is a better school. However, something is sketchy at Utah State lately.

  • buryme Mesa, AZ
    May 16, 2014 6:51 a.m.

    What's going on up at Utah State with the basketball team? There have been numerous players transferring. It can't just be about playing time because some of the kids leaving were getting lots of playing time.

  • plyxply SLC, UT
    May 16, 2014 7:13 a.m.

    hopefully he'll have the same type of impact that Riley Nelson had

  • SSmith Salt Lake City, UT
    May 16, 2014 7:33 a.m.

    He's listed at 6-foot-7-inch, 225-pounds.

  • Sports Nutz Smithfield, UT
    May 16, 2014 7:44 a.m.

    Maybe the 3rd time is the charm for Kyle?

  • Max-was-right springville, UT
    May 16, 2014 8:46 a.m.

    Wait doesn't he know Utah is in the prestigious pac ten?

  • SUNNY ALL DAY Saint George, UT
    May 16, 2014 8:51 a.m.

    Players are ridiculed when they transfer from BYU (Carlino).
    Players are applauded when they transfer to BYU (Davis).

  • Boo Ya!!! Richfield, UT
    May 16, 2014 8:59 a.m.

    Huge USU fan. You never want a player that doesn't want to be there so good luck to the kid.

    What's up? Any insights? We've had a good run there for some time, but the wheels appear to be having some serious issues.

    Welcome any comments.

  • flatlander Omaha, NE
    May 16, 2014 9:01 a.m.

    USU would nt release him to an instate school so he can't practice or have any contact or aid from coaches for a year.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    May 16, 2014 9:01 a.m.

    UCSB and Hawaii wanted him along with byu? Good get for byu.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    May 16, 2014 9:01 a.m.

    Max was right -

    You assume because byU wanted him that Utah wanted him?

    LOL!

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    May 16, 2014 9:39 a.m.

    flatlander,

    If you read the article you would know what you just said is not correct. Did you not read the article? He's already had contact with Dave Rose. Are you suggesting a big rules violation has occurred then?

  • Old But Not Stupid Moorpark, CA
    May 16, 2014 9:40 a.m.

    Chris-

    You assume he wanted to be a Ute? Don't think so.

  • What in Tucket? Provo, UT
    May 16, 2014 9:41 a.m.

    I don't agree with Sunny. I certainly wish Carlino great success and I think most people also do. I think Mr. Davis will help BYU. I am sorry if USU is sad at his departure, but no one should want to keep a player who wants to go on.

  • Concinnity Richfield, UT
    May 16, 2014 9:51 a.m.

    BYU plays more nationally ranked teams than anyone else in the state. They play in more post-season tournaments than anyone else in the state, plus they are more accessible on TV than any other college basketball team in the state. So it would naturally be the first choice of most quality players who can abide by it's required standards.

    @ Chris B:

    When comparing the 2 programs over the past decade, you've got to still have those funny glasses on if you honestly believe Utah wouldn't be very happy to have almost any player good enough for BYU to take. One solitary victory in SLC last season doesn't suddenly change all of that.

    @ plyxply:

    Riley Nelson was a record-setting Parade All-American who could've played anywhere in the Inter-mountain area and beyond.
    BYU was fortunate to get him. He had more guts and determination than most players ever dream of having. I don't know of any other player who willingly played with broken back vertebrae and broken ribs. A true competitor and team leader. BYU will be happy if Davis is able to contribute even half as much as all that.

  • rlsintx Plano, TX
    May 16, 2014 10:04 a.m.

    Sad to see USU in the state they appear to be with guys leaving.
    Maybe it's time for a coaching change after all these years just to shake things up.

  • Picardy Provo, UT
    May 16, 2014 10:08 a.m.

    Welcome Kyle! You will thrive under Coach Rose and his great staff. You had great training at USU. These decisions are typically personal and trying to pan one program over another is the occupation of those without anything important to add to any conversation. Let the monotonous droning of the ill-informed resonate in their own ears.

  • rlsintx Plano, TX
    May 16, 2014 10:08 a.m.

    I still maintain that if regular scholarship students can transfer to a different college without any involvement restrictions, then scholarship athletes should be able to as well. This not releasing someone to an in-state school stuff is garbage and clearly not done with the student in mind, and the university experience is for the student. If coaches can leave and coach the next year somewhere else, athletes should be free to do so as well and at-will for the start of the next season. It's plenty of time to find replacement players etc. and would put some checks on the schools to manage the humanity of their staff toward student athletes.

  • Mildred in Fillmore Salt Lake City, UT
    May 16, 2014 10:09 a.m.

    Great player who will help us go to the NCAAs and beat Kentucky.

  • oddman ,
    May 16, 2014 10:24 a.m.

    Sunny, where you been hiding? Carlino was never ridiculed for his play or for leaving BYU. Granted he had about as many detractors as attractors, however I believe we are all sorry to see him go. He brought the crowd to its feet on myriad occasions.

  • CompGuy1979 Kingwood, TX
    May 16, 2014 11:06 a.m.

    He must be a walk-on for the 2014-15 season. One of the blessings of Carlino transferring was that is brought BYU down to the scholarship limit. I imagine he was invited to walk-on with the chance a gaining a scholarship.

  • Down under Salt Lake City, UT
    May 16, 2014 11:30 a.m.

    Smart kid. He didn't want to be a ute. He probably will ride the bench or get cut due tot the powerhouse lineup BYU has coming in.

  • Stringer Bell Henderson, NV
    May 16, 2014 11:45 a.m.

    Why all of the comments about Utah? This Southern Utah University/Utah State transfer has nothing to do with Utah or big-time basketball. He went from the MWC to the HS gyms of the WCC. National media has Utah projected among the top several teams of the PAC 12 for this coming season. Things are looking great on the hill. Good luck with him.

  • Funny/witty screen name Orem, UT
    May 16, 2014 1:24 p.m.

    @stringer bell
    How did utah fare in the HS gym last season of st mary's? This is a good pickup by byu. they will need some depth at the bench!!
    Go Cougs!

  • souptwins Lindon, UT
    May 16, 2014 1:56 p.m.

    A 6'7" kid who plays the 4 is always welcome at BYU and nearly every team can use depth at that position. I just wish he could play this next season. Like others, I wonder what going on up at USU. The Aggies have such a proud Bball tradition and I'd hate to see that change. Welcome aboard, Kyle. Have a good year in school and we'll see you on the court before you know it.

  • wahului Stockton, CA
    May 16, 2014 2:30 p.m.

    USU's apparent willingness to use whatever cheap administrative trick they can dig up to restrict and try to punish Kyle for leaving their program likely speaks directly to the reason he and others are leaving.

  • SkookumDon Tacoma, WA
    May 16, 2014 3:03 p.m.

    I'm a grad of both USU and BYU. Can someone post what's going on in Aggieville that 3 players have transferred out recently?

  • Boo Ya!!! Richfield, UT
    May 16, 2014 3:07 p.m.

    HA! "cheap administrative trick" ?!?!?

    That makes me laugh :-) USU did not have to allow him to transfer ANYWHERE because of NCAA rules.

    Yep. Not a cheap trick but 'the rules.' Of course you want to limit him transferring to your opponents. You have spent a great deal of time and resources on him and do not want him to now use your resources against you, BUT will allow him to go somewhere else.

    What is so difficult to understand about that?

    btw: What does it say about this guy that this is his third transfer.

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    May 16, 2014 4:20 p.m.

    You've gotta love the insecurity of any Utah fan that needs to resort to something like "He went from the MWC to the HS gyms of the WCC", especially given that BYU had higher overall attendance than the Utes (by a long shot) and played more ranked and higher ranked teams. Oh, and they also went dancing. It's good to be a Cougar!

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    May 16, 2014 6:17 p.m.

    "National media has Utah projected among the top several teams of the PAC 12 for this coming season".

    Stringer -

    Does that mean utah is not amongst the bottom 3 or 4? It is pretty bold to proclaim you're in the "top several" when the grand total is only 12. lol.

  • oregonaggie1 Salem, OR
    May 16, 2014 10:52 p.m.

    I'm looking forward to Davis's return to Logan in 2015 ?,, I'm sure Aggie Nation will have a warm reception awaiting him,,,, GO AGGIES !

  • Stang08 Southern, UT
    May 16, 2014 11:34 p.m.

    Smart move to get out of USU. Wish you would've stayed down south but what can you do? Good choice leaving USU Davis.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    May 17, 2014 9:06 a.m.

    Looking at the pipeline of talent coming to the Cougs the next few years, the four position looks like the only spot where we could use some depth. With that said, Kyle will have an opportunity to make an impact. My guess is he will back-up Aytes during his two years in Provo.

  • Stringer Bell Henderson, NV
    May 17, 2014 12:14 p.m.

    Tom in CA

    Top two or three, take your pick.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    May 18, 2014 2:52 a.m.

    Down under--

    "Smart kid. He didn't want to be a ute. He probably will ride the bench or get cut due tot the powerhouse lineup BYU has coming in."

    What byu fan fails to realize is byu only getting more of the same w/most recent recruits in skilled O players who've never heard of D and, as a result, continues getting identical results via early exits from Tourney....'Til dr preaches D/brings somebody in to teach it, they'll reap identical result....Forget about Mythical "NC", where FL team they lost to was equally named "NC"....Zero Mythical about Dancing, as UO brutally indicated....Beware stating S.L.C. demolition "flukish"....Coach K schooled dr, big-time, equal to provo previous year, but then w/a significantly less capable/more inexperienced team....He'll duplicate it this next year, save provo D miracle.

    We had precisely one year w/soft OOC schedule, for obvious reasons when assembled, and already have two likely Top-10 teams scheduled for '14-'15, among others. UT/ST in WK 1 before they were good, Ls to every other school....Weak conference schedule....We're back! Beware!

  • AggieFan74 Ogden, UT
    May 18, 2014 11:35 a.m.

    Coach Stew has run-off five or six players in the past 12 plus months with "no" explanation by the individual players, Coach Stew or the University Athletic Department. Being an Aggie alum with a lot of very fond memories of the La Dell Andersen's years, I wonder just what's going on with the program and how Coach Stew keeps his job. This Davis kid wasn't a stud-impact player but he got the job done and had more than decent numbers. He would have been a great role model for new recruits to the program. There's no reason for him to have made the decision to leave USU other than there were big-time issues with Coach Stew............and this is one Aggie fan who'd love to find out what's the deal with Coach Stew in the past few years and why players are leaving the program in droves and why Coach Stew has no players to fill in the holes?????????????????????????

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    May 19, 2014 12:17 a.m.

    When it comes to recruiting... through any objective eye... BYU has been the class of the state and among the best in the west... Will this turn out to be a Final Four team in 16'-17' or 17'-18'??? Who knows, but the team will be loaded with the players and the coaches that can make that happen...

    Haws and Emery in the back court... Aytes, Dastrup, Mika and now Davis in the paint... with studs such as Chapman, Hartsock, Andrus, Jackson, Toolson, Nixon in the mix... BYU will be a very tough team....

    It's safe to say that for this 5 or 6 year period, BYU will be the class of the state (still)... Meanwhile, the utes will run their record against the Cougs from their current 2-11 mark to 2-17 over 13 years... And their winless record at the MC in Provo will go from 9 years and running to 15 year and running.

    A real disappointment, not only for the big bad pac12, but more so for the 6 NCAA Division I teams in the Beehive state who have traditionally enjoyed a strong image in the world of College Basketball.

  • SlopJ30 St Louis, MO
    May 19, 2014 11:04 a.m.

    Oddman, I'm one Y fan who is not "sorry to see (Carlino) go." That doesn't mean I'm rooting against him, but BYU was not going anywhere with him running the point. I value consistency and good decision-making (in both passing and shot selection) in a PG, and those are not things Carlino brought to the table. He proved long ago that you can never have any idea what he's going to give you on a given day. He also proved he's basically a 40% shooter, 30%-ish from 3. No thanks. Give someone else the minutes for experience's sake and hope it pays off in 2-3 years.

    I hope this Davis kid can give us something and that the Haws 2/Dastrup/Emery years are all they're cracked up to be. I am suppressing my enthusiasm, though, having lived through the supposed glory years of Bradley, the Reids, and Roberts. Like so many other BYU teams, they were pretty good but that's it. "Pretty good" is getting old.

  • Farid @ Pocatello Pocatello, ID
    May 19, 2014 4:55 p.m.

    I was another Cougar fan who at the same time was happy to see Carlino go AND wished him well.

    At the end of the year, would you have traded Carlino for Davis?

    Let's compare the two:

    We all know the obvious numbers (Carlino 13.7-3.4-4.6 vs Davis 9.1-7.6-0.4) --ppg/reb/assists

    But Carlino shot 38.5% from the field, Davis 50.3%. Both shot 68% from the free throw line. Carlino gave up 2.0 turnovers a game, Davis 1.6.

    Davis' game is tighter and truer. He doesn't do as much as Carlino but what he does he does better.

    And here are Davis' numbers against Mika, Austin & Collinsworth based on playing a full 40 minutes per game:

    Davis: 14.5--12.2--2.1 (ppg--reb--blks)
    Mika: 18.5--10.0--1.1
    Austin: 5.7--11.9--1.3
    Kyle C.16.7--9.7--0.5

    He's going to provide the Cougars good defense, offense when they need it and he's not going to throw a lot of passes into the stands.

  • jpc53 Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 21, 2014 2:27 p.m.

    Sounds like he is on a tour of Utah Universities. SUU as a freshman, USU as a sophomore, BYU as a junior and finally U of U as a senior.