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  • Captain L Provo, UT
    May 12, 2014 9:17 p.m.

    I'd love to see Hosick make the move to join the cougars, I think he would be a great replacement for when Hill leaves, with the new offensive scheme he would be a great fit. Watching his HS highlights he looks very much like Hill and seems to have a decent arms with the ability to make all the throws necessary. He has already used a redshirt year and if he joins the cougs and learns their system while he sits his required year he should be ready to step in a produce when Hill leaves.

  • Ken Sandy, UT
    May 12, 2014 9:21 p.m.

    So he wanted Kansas State and they weren't interested?
    Dave Christensen knows all about him and Utah's not interested?
    Missouri didn't want him enough to make him the starter?

    Also interesting that he says something about magnum possibly not staying. I would think he would only mention that if the coaching staff gave indication of that possibility. Mangum must not be interested in what he's hearing about byu. He's presumably be the starter for at least a couple years, he must be getting attention from better schools.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    May 12, 2014 9:57 p.m.

    He sounds confident and it seems like he's not the least bit interested in the U.

    It's a small world we live in, it's truly amazing how many of these like-minded people you run into these days.

    Trent might be a good fit. Hope it happens.

  • Big 12 Call Yet? Ogden, UT
    May 12, 2014 10:28 p.m.

    Since deciding to transfer, did a single power conference program offer him? LIke Ken says, it seems there was a lot of interest with K-state, but that interest only went one way.

    This likely pushes Tanner Mangum outside too. Bronco doesn't exactly have a good track record or developing highly prized recruits.

    He couldn't develop Jake Heaps
    and bronco's poor coaching decisions led byu to have a backup safety be his QB for 3 years instead of future NFL draft pick Brad Sorensen.

    And now it appears Mangum is already wavering in his decision to return to go fast go hard byu.

    I hope Tanner ends up with a prestigious Pac 12 program, and I bet he does.

    Mark it Down - Tanner Mangum will transfer to a prestigious Pac 12 program

  • Who am I sir? Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 12, 2014 10:28 p.m.

    "We ate at literally all the best places in town," Hosick wrote. "We went bowling, went to the overlook of Provo, and a bunch of other stuff." WOW, tough to compete against that!

  • Cswilliam Monument, CO
    May 12, 2014 10:50 p.m.

    This is a big mistake. This will be the third consecutive transfer we've accepted to take over a QB position, cutting out the kids who commit to the Y In the first place out of high school. Pretty soon, we are going to lose out on HS kids altogether. Why come? The coach will put a transfer in front of you anyway.

    I'm pretty unhappy with this practice. It seems remarkably unfair to the kids who committed to the Y and then went on missions. Sorry - but this seems very low class to me. I am disappointed in Mendenhall.

    This is not a troll. I am a big BYU fan. And I am very very disappointed.

  • CordonBleu Park City, UT
    May 12, 2014 10:51 p.m.

    Ken

    Sorry to burst your jealous crimson bubble, but he's better than Utah's QB heir apparent.

    As far as Mangum not staying, of course Trent is hoping that Mangum won't stay, because Tanner would be his main competition. Trent joining BYU, won't have any impact on Tanner's decision to stay; he's already competed against the best and would likely relish the competition.

    Unlike K Whit, Bronco understands that it's better to have too much talent at QB, than not enough.

  • souptwins Lindon, UT
    May 12, 2014 10:58 p.m.

    I'm not jumping up and down about him. However, I am concerned about the hints that Mangum might not keep his commitment to BYU. I'm prefer to see Mangum as the starter and Hosick as a backup.

  • Back Talk Federal Way, WA
    May 12, 2014 11:02 p.m.

    More indications that my fear will be realized, that Mangum will transfer to Boise State of some other school. BYU will lose out in this deal.

  • Rose Bowl call yet? Salt Lake City, UT
    May 12, 2014 11:08 p.m.

    b12

    You're seriously mocking a 4-star transfer who might get a chance to start in a couple of years, when the Utes are counting on a 3-star transfer who didn't even play spring ball to be their starter this fall?

    Tanner Mangum isn't going anywhere, but it's laughable that you're wishfully hoping Tanner will leave BYU, since you were the one mocking BYU just a couple of years ago for recruiting an Idaho QB, when the Utes were signing a California recruit named Travis Wilson.

    It's fun watching you drool over a BYU QB that you thought so little of when he signed with the Cougars.

  • Tomahawk Red North Salt Lake, UT
    May 12, 2014 11:16 p.m.

    sammyg
    Springville, UT
    He sounds confident and it seems like he's not the least bit interested in the U.

    ------------

    Sounds like it worked out well then, seeing as how Utah didn't even bother to even try and contact him.

    This guy was probably hoping to get an offer from Utah, but chose BYU when it was clear Utah wasn't interested.

    LOL!

  • Jeff29 Draper, UT
    May 12, 2014 11:17 p.m.

    @ Big 12 Call Yet?

    "Mark it Down - Tanner Mangum will transfer to a prestigious Pac 12 program"

    So you mean he won't be playing in Utah?

  • RockOn Spanish Fork, UT
    May 13, 2014 12:32 a.m.

    Tanner Mangum is committed to come to BYU. Hosick is a very good QB and it does not show much class to berate a young man or young woman who chooses to attend whatever univeristy. Good for him. Good for BYU. Utah has had some interesting transfers that have helped them out. Good for them.

  • hobbes1012003 Kaysville, UT
    May 13, 2014 12:52 a.m.

    I would much rather hear that Tanner Mangum who was the C0-MVP for the elite 11 camp be our starting QB when he gets back from his mission. BYU needs a PP QB, enough of the Dual threat QBs. I love Taysom Hill but its his sheer athleticism that makes him good enough to make it work. But lets face it, Taysom is just a bigger better version of Riley Nelson. and I cant put up with another Riley Nelson fiasco, I just cant do it. And it sounds like this transfer kid would just be another Riley Nelson remake.

  • wahului Stockton, CA
    May 13, 2014 1:23 a.m.

    This guy already reminds me of the Jake Heaps ego. Hope he proves better than that.

  • Proud Ute ,
    May 13, 2014 5:59 a.m.

    @Cordon Bleu,
    Unlike K Whit, Bronco understands that it's better to have too much talent at QB, than not enough.

    Then please explain how/why Ammon Olsen left leaving the QB shelf absolutely barren if Hill goes down.

  • oddman ,
    May 13, 2014 6:02 a.m.

    My, my we have so many that have the ability to read between the lines of any story. I for one think that having two good qbacks competing against each other will make them both better. Injuries, unrealized potential, lack of IT, and myriad other things keep people from rising to their potential. If Magnum is afraid of the competition then so be it. The qback position is not inherited, it is earned and he has missionary legs and other issues to firm up and strengthen before taking over the position. I for one hope they both look forward and relish the opportunity to go head to head and may the best man win. Do NFL qbacks shy away from competiting for the job? Playing any position is earned and is not given because of entitlement.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    May 13, 2014 7:26 a.m.

    Tanner Mangum is by far the best QB at BYU. The kid can flat out play! Not too sure about this guy, but only good things can come from more QB competition.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    May 13, 2014 7:36 a.m.

    First of all to our friendly neighborhood trolls...of course Utah didn't offer him, they have SEVEN QBs. Utah apparently thinks quantity trumps quality.

    Second, Tanner Mangum struggled in his spring here working out for the team. He didn't exactly light it up, so he will have to work to earn the starting spot over anyone else. To our favorite troll...no he won't end up at a PAC12 school, he would go to Boise State most likely...but hey, that's a far better program than the one on the hill.

    Finally, please stop with the Riley Nelson comparisons. Neither Taysom Hill or Trent Hosick are Riley Nelson. Both have stronger arms and more athleticism. Both need to improve passing the ball but both have MUCH higher upside the RN.

  • skywalker Palo Alto, CA
    May 13, 2014 7:46 a.m.

    Proud Ute

    "Then please explain how/why Ammon Olsen left leaving the QB shelf absolutely barren if Hill goes down."

    He didn't.

    Ammon Olsen left because he wanted to be a starter, which he knew he wasn't going to get as long as Taysom Hill stays healthy. There are still several quality QBs backing up Taysom.

    Unlike Utah, which is hoping that an untested transfer that didn't even play spring ball can step in if Travis isn't cleared to play or continues to be a turnover machine.

  • bradleyc Layton, UT
    May 13, 2014 8:25 a.m.

    Is am not a big fan of anyone above a 3 star recruit. Too much ego. None do the BYU greats were star recruits but they were great leaders who knew how to win. I know of several winners who would love to go to BYU, even a BYU summer camp MVP. BYU wanted him to come as a walk on. Give me a break! Quit recruiting primadonnas and recruit talented winners.

  • flatlander Omaha, NE
    May 13, 2014 8:36 a.m.

    Interesting that nobody has commented on him playing JC ball in 2014, not at BYU learning the system. I know some positions transfer from JC but I can't recall QBs making that jump.

  • Kralon HUNTINGTON BEACH, CA
    May 13, 2014 8:56 a.m.

    It is good Trent has great confidence in himself, a trait any QB needs.

    But, BYU seems to have a lot of QBs on stage and in the pipeline, maybe BYU could focus a little more on building up a great Offensive Line to protect these QBs?

  • Duckhunter Highland , UT
    May 13, 2014 9:18 a.m.

    @flatlander

    If Hosick came straight to BYU he would have to sit out the next year, by going to a JC for a year he gets to play and then does not have to sit out another year when he gets to BYU.

    In his position as a redshirt freshman in eligibility this is a very good way of doing it. If your option is to sit and not play at all or else to go to a jc and get to actually play that year then what would you do?

    Also Steve Sarkisian was a JC transfer and he did pretty well.

  • nhatch82 Eagle Mountain, UT
    May 13, 2014 9:28 a.m.

    @Ernest

    I don't know if "Trannies" is the optimal word for these guys, but yes we are glad to have them.

  • IDC Boise, ID
    May 13, 2014 9:30 a.m.

    Quarterback is an important position. BYU generally has several very good quarterbacks. Most times, the best quarterback gets to start. If you are a good quarterback and don't want to compete for the starting job, probably best not to go to BYU. If you think you are the best and that you can beat out other quarterbacks, then come to BYU.

    Go Cougars!

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    May 13, 2014 9:38 a.m.

    CordonBleu:

    "Sorry to burst your jealous crimson bubble, but he's better than Utah's QB heir apparent."

    Utah doesn't HAVE an "heir apparent". For starters, Wilson hasn't been cleared to play yet, and he still has to beat out Kendal Thompson in the Fall. The coaching staff was very clear that they wanted to get a good look at him, and that he's expected to compete for the starters job. So at this time, we don't know who'll be under center by Aug. 28th....or any time after that for that matter.

    Additionally, Rivals rated Hosick as the 19th-ranked dual-threat QB in the 2013 recruiting class. Thompson was rated as the 21st-ranked dual-threat QB in the 2011 recruiting class. And while #19 > #21, these two QBs weren't ranked in the same pool, so you really couldn't conclude who was the better signal caller. And even if tried to make that reach that #19 (2013) > #21 (2011), Utah STILL gets the edge since Wilson was ranked the #11 pro-style QB in the 2012 class.

    Sorry to burst YOUR blue fantasy bubble.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    May 13, 2014 9:39 a.m.

    Yikes! Maybe BYU will alternate quarterbacks

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    May 13, 2014 9:43 a.m.

    I agree with CSwilliam.

    It is almost like Tanner Mangum is being punished for going on a mission, while Bronco courts other QB's.

    Hosick's comments sound like he is promised the starting position and Mangum will be the backup to him. I am sure it is wishful thinking but it has got to make Tanner and his family uneasy.

    Mangum is NOT another Heaps. He doesn't bring the ego or entitlement that Heaps had. And he could fit into Anae's offensive scheme just fine. Someone mentioned that he didn't show very well at last year's spring practice. On the contrary, I heard he "wowed" the coaches with his pinpoint passing accuracy.

    The word on Hosick is that he is very similar to Hill. Good size, physical runner, but not real accurate in passing. and looking at his 40 time he is considerably slower than Hill. BYU needs to fill the need for a good back-up QB for 2014, not 2015. Acquiring Hosick does nothing to meet that need.
    I am confused by his attending a JC a year before coming to BYU...

  • relientk Saratoga Springs, UT
    May 13, 2014 9:49 a.m.

    Man, all these Utes commenting are really making me wish BYU was in their situation. Year after year of losing seasons and no bowl games. Sounds fantastic! HAHA!

    Welcome Hosick, and GO COUGARS!

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    May 13, 2014 9:50 a.m.

    sammyg:

    "He sounds confident and it seems like he's not the least bit interested in the U."

    And how does it seem that way to you? The article stated pretty clearly that "[Hosick] has not been contacted by the University of Utah." So doesn't that seem more like it's the U who doesn't seem to be the least bit interested in Hosick? And why WOULD we be? Have you seen the depth we currently have at that spot? They've already moved ONE signal caller over to the receiving corps. Looking at YOUR depth....I see a lot more 2-star types.

    Kinda looks like his chances of taking the field might be better in Provo, dontcha think?

    P.S.: Hosick mentioned that Kansas St. would have been a place he would've fit well in, but that they hadn't shown any interest. He does sound confident, but he also sounds like a guy who'll have to settle. Utah never contacted him...K-State wasn't interested...enter the scavenger cougar coaching staff to pick up the leftovers.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    May 13, 2014 10:03 a.m.

    CordonBleu:

    "Unlike K Whit, Bronco understands that it's better to have too much talent at QB, than not enough."

    That's an interesting comment coming from a fan of a school who for the 2013 season has only 3 QBs: Hill, plus two other unheralded 2-stars.

    Utah's depth looks something more like 5 "heralded" 3-star kids, plus a walk-on. This position was so deep, a sixth "heralded" 3-star kid got moved over to the receiving corps.

    Keep living in that blue-goggled fantasyland. It helps take the sting off of that small ball schedule you're looking at in the Fall.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    May 13, 2014 10:07 a.m.

    souptwins:

    "...I am concerned about the hints that Mangum might not keep his commitment to BYU."

    Where had it ever been reported that Mangum is looking at transferring? It looks like you're getting worried over nothing. Mangum will be joining the cougars in "missionary" condition. That'll work for a midmajor playing small ball, but not so much for team in an elite "Power 5" league. And as a former 4-star kid, I'm thinking he wants to play; not sit. Mangum's not going anywhere.

  • Mtn Tracker Ephraim, UT
    May 13, 2014 10:32 a.m.

    Not one Utah fan has a favorable thing to say about Mangum or anyone else going to Utah. It's about going to a Pac 12 school. The pac 12 is the greatest!!!

  • G-Day-M8 WVC, UT
    May 13, 2014 10:39 a.m.

    If I remember correctly, BYU's quarterback coach Jason Beck (who was a back up his whole career) heard very early on that Hosick was transferring and made contact with him. I'm not sure there was time for a lot of programs to hear about Trent transferring and before Trent, with his family, made the decision to accept BYU's offer.

    I like to think it was a good program working fast to fill a need and closed the deal on a good athlete and a good fit for BYU's culture.

    I like Trents confidence, he wants to win, and sounds a lot like Jake heaps but I hope we see a different outcome with him than we did with Heaps. I would not put much stock in his comments about Tanner Mangum. Tanner Mangum is confident in a completely different way but humility is not a sign of weakness or non-competitive spirit.

  • G-Day-M8 WVC, UT
    May 13, 2014 10:38 a.m.

    This story has nothing to do with utah or navel or brave sir or big-12... and I really have zero interest in anything about them. Kind of like the ugly electrical transformer in the corner of my yard thats hidden by beautiful shrubs.

  • CougarSunDevil Phoenix, AZ
    May 13, 2014 10:42 a.m.

    Wow, lots of Ute fans posting. Why is that?

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    May 13, 2014 10:52 a.m.

    Is this about right?

    2014 BYU quarterback depth chart
    1. Taysom Hill (junior), 3 star, 4.5 forty, #30 pro-style
    2. Christian Stewart (senior), JC transfer
    3. Billy Green (sophomore), 2 star
    Others. Hunter Moore (freshman walk-on), 2 star
    McCoy Hill (Freshman walk on), NR
    Brad Heap (Freshman walk-on), NR

    2015
    1. Taysom Hill (senior)
    2. Trent Hosick (sophomore), 3 star, 4.57 forty, #19 dual threat
    3. Kimane Domena (freshman), 3 star, 4.7 forty
    4. Billy Green (junior)
    Recruiting Travis Waller (4 star), Kody Wilstead (3 star), Eric Dungey (3 star), David Maaghul (2 star)

    2016
    1. Tanner Mangum (sophomore), 4 star, #3 pro style, 4.86 forty
    2. Trent Hosic (junior)
    3. Billy Green (senior)
    Recruiting Malik Henry (4 star)

  • SkookumDon Tacoma, WA
    May 13, 2014 11:10 a.m.

    As much as I look forward to seeing what Tanner Magnum can do, you can't put all your QB eggs in one basket; so the depth and competition will be healthy. It will give the Cougars at least two contrasting styles of QBs to choose from.

  • SkookumDon Tacoma, WA
    May 13, 2014 11:20 a.m.

    After reading a half-dozen different articles about Trent Hosick's decision to transfer to BYU, and reading his various quotes, I am cautiously optimistic. I appreciate his confidence, but he is assuming he will compete with Tayson for the starting job his first year at the Y, and then take over the starter's job after that. I'm sure Bronco didn't promise him the starting job. I hope this doesn't turn out to be another Heaps/Carlino scenario.

  • football43 Morgan, UT
    May 13, 2014 11:22 a.m.

    G-Day-M8 said,

    "This story has nothing to do with utah or navel or brave sir or big-12... and I really have zero interest in anything about them. Kind of like the ugly electrical transformer in the corner of my yard thats hidden by beautiful shrubs."

    That might be the best analogy I have heard about the PAC 10+2/Utah Utes I Have ever heard. Lol.

  • souptwins Lindon, UT
    May 13, 2014 11:40 a.m.

    A stable of quality QB's is a must. Hosick seems like a good dual threat guy who has some work to do in the throwing dept. Playing at a JC for the year he has to sit out should help him make those improvements and stay on top of things. Hosick seems a bit high on himself but I'm willing to chalk that up to youth and not understanding the fine line between confidence and arrogance
    I would think (IMO) Mangum has a higher ceiling and is the better QB based on his performances before his mission. I'm hoping Hosick's comment of "if" Tanner returns is just wishful thinking on his part. I'd much rather see Mangum in the starting role with Hosick as the backup. Of course, there are things about returning from a mission that need to fall into place. Mangum is NO Jake Heaps! Humble, hard worker with far more resiliency.

    Tanner Mangum should be seen as THE guy to follow Hill and I'm hoping Hill will be back his Sr. year so both these guys have a year of tutelage before stepping in as starter.

  • souptwins Lindon, UT
    May 13, 2014 11:46 a.m.

    Wisccougarfan-- The only problem I see with your list is that Tanner Magnum will be back for the '15 season although fresh off his mission. I'm fine with that scenario as long as Hill is back & healthy for his Sr. year.

  • Picardy Provo, UT
    May 13, 2014 1:06 p.m.

    Real competitors are not afraid of the challenge of added talent. They look at it as a way to refine their own skills and maximize their own potential. If Tanner is intimidated by this move, better that he does move on. My guess is that Mangum will take a "bring it on" approach to the challenge and come back to Provo with an attitude. Since there was no meaningful reference to Utah in the article, I see no reason to include them in a comment.

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    May 13, 2014 1:14 p.m.

    @Wiscougarfan

    I'm not sure about your data but ESPN has Hosick's 40 at 4.80 and Rivals records a 4.65. He has been rated both a 3-star and a 4-star.
    I can't remember the source but I have read that Hill can do a 4.45.

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    May 13, 2014 1:15 p.m.

    Ute fans commenting on a byu QB article is quite hilarious, how many mediocre Qb's and QB coaches have U gone through lately?

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    May 13, 2014 1:44 p.m.

    navel vet

    "For starters, Wilson hasn't been cleared to play yet, and he still has to beat out Kendal Thompson in the Fall."

    Your statement makes absolutely no sense. If Wilson is Utah's returning starting QB, sans not being cleared medically, then why would Travis have to "beat out" a transfer who didn't even play in spring ball?

    Doesn't your statement, by definition, suggest that an unproven transfer that only completed 4 passes for 15 yards last season is Utah's "heir apparent" at QB?

  • Old But Not Stupid Moorpark, CA
    May 13, 2014 2:09 p.m.

    Tomahawk Red
    North Salt Lake, UT

    "Sounds like it worked out well then, seeing as how Utah didn't even bother to even try and contact him."

    Toma...the Utes cupboard is overflowing with, what, seven QBs? Totally explains why they did not even try...

  • BigCougar Bountiful, UT
    May 13, 2014 2:30 p.m.

    @Ken
    "Dave Christensen knows all about him and Utah's not interested?"

    Hmmm...I didn't read where it said Dave Christensen knows anything about him. It's pretty clear in the article that Dave didn't even coach Hosick and was long gone from Mizzou likely well before Hosick was a recruiting target for anyone. Can you provide a link showing that Christensen "knows all about him" and is not interested?

    Besides, didn't Kyle say that QB's Travis Wilson and Adam Schulz are in the upper echelon of Pac 12 QBs? So with that in mind and the utes being so loaded at QB, why would they need to waste a scholarship on another one? According to Kyle they're all set.

  • BigCougar Bountiful, UT
    May 13, 2014 2:41 p.m.

    @CougsnDawgs
    "Second, Tanner Mangum struggled in his spring here working out for the team. He didn't exactly light it up, so he will have to work to earn the starting spot over anyone else."

    Actually, you might be remembering wrong. Tanner had a pretty good spring and was 8 for 8 passing in the spring game and I think finished with a string of 19 straight completions. He clearly stood out amongst the group of Christian Steward, Ammon Olsen, Billy Green, etc.

    I don't think he's worried about any competition when he gets back.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    May 13, 2014 3:44 p.m.

    Wiscougarfan:

    "Recruiting Travis Waller (4 star), Kody Wilstead (3 star), Eric Dungey (3 star), David Maaghul (2 star)"

    You don't get credit for "recruiting" a 4-star kid. You only get credit for "signing" one. I'd actually give credit for a "verbal commitment" (albeit not for a "soft verbal"), which you don't have for Waller.

    And FWIW, Rivals ranks Waller as a 3-star anyway. Rivals also notes that Utah is recruiting this kid too, as are about ten other schools from "Power 5" leagues. If he's not LDS, you can forget about him.

    And there's no bragging about bagging a 2-star.

  • BigCougar Bountiful, UT
    May 13, 2014 3:51 p.m.

    @Proudute
    "Then please explain how/why Ammon Olsen left leaving the QB shelf absolutely barren if Hill goes down."

    He left because, unlike Kyle, Bronco understands the importance of having NFL caliber talent at QB. You're not going to win using Div II QB's or expecting 165 lb fragile kids to make it through a Pac 12 conference schedule (not just once but twice). Especially when the program is going through its 7th Offensive Coordinator in 9 yrs.

    Olsen saw that Hill has elite speed and an NFL arm and did the math. Barring an injury Ammon wasn't going to get any playing time.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    May 13, 2014 3:52 p.m.

    Snack WAC:

    "Your statement makes absolutely no sense. If Wilson is Utah's returning starting QB, sans not being cleared medically, then why would Travis have to 'beat out' a transfer who didn't even play in spring ball?"

    There was nothing wrong with my statement. The problem was your comprehension. My point was that there was no "heir apparent". It can't be said any plainer than that.

    As for Wilson, he HADN'T been cleared yet...and the "key word" there is "YET"! Additionally, Thompson WILL be given a look to compete for the starting position in the Fall. Both Whittingham and Christiansen said so. There can be no legitimate argument to the contrary. If Wilson -- who is NOT the "heir apparent" as he hadn't yet beaten out Thompson -- IS cleared to play, he WILL need to beat out Thompson. If he is NOT cleared, Thompson is STILL not the "heir apparent" because he'd have to beat out Manning. After Spring camp, Wilson was listed as #1, and Manning at #2.

  • BigCougar Bountiful, UT
    May 13, 2014 3:56 p.m.

    @Idablu and Wiscougarfan
    "I'm not sure about your data but ESPN has Hosick's 40 at 4.80 and Rivals records a 4.65. He has been rated both a 3-star and a 4-star.
    I can't remember the source but I have read that Hill can do a 4.45."

    and if he had gone to Utah his 4.65 speed would've instantly improved to 4.3

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    May 13, 2014 3:57 p.m.

    Snack WAC (cont):

    So if Wilson ended Spring Camp at #1, and his "current" prognosis is favorable that he WILL return in the Fall, and he HADN'T yet beaten out Thompson -- who the coaching staff said they wanted to get a good look at, and is "expected" to compete for the starting job -- how is anything I said inaccurate or confusing in any way?

    "Doesn't your statement, by definition, suggest that an unproven transfer that only completed 4 passes for 15 yards last season is Utah's 'heir apparent' at QB?"

    No. It doesn't. Thompson did not finish the Spring at #1 on the depth chart like Wilson. If Wilson is not cleared to play, then Manning moves up from #2, and Thompson would still have to beat HIM out for the starting job. That's 3 QBs with a shot at the #1 job, and we hadn't even started Fall camp yet. So how could there be an "heir apparent" when we don't even know who will be showing up in the Fall?

  • BigCougar Bountiful, UT
    May 13, 2014 4:36 p.m.

    @Navel Lint
    "You don't get credit for "recruiting" a 4-star kid. You only get credit for "signing" one. I'd actually give credit for a "verbal commitment" ....Rivals also notes that Utah is recruiting this kid too, as are about ten other schools from "Power 5" leagues. If he's not LDS, you can forget about him. "

    Isn't that what many ute fans and writers did in trying to make excuses for Kyle's major gaff thinking that a fragile Jordan Wynn and a DII backup would be good enough for the first 2 awesome seasons in the Pac12? All we heard from whining ute fans and ute apologists was how Derrick Brown changed his mind and committed to Arizona and how Michael Eubank "showed interest" in Utah and then committed to ASU and that's why the QB cupboards were bare (insinuating it wasn't Kyle's fault). Sounds very much like taking credit for recruiting someone but not signing them.

    Also, with the notion that if the recruit's not LDS and has Power 5 schools interested in him that BYU can forget about him, apparently you haven't heard of Jamaal Williams, Devon Blackmon, Nick Kurtz, etc...

  • BigCougar Bountiful, UT
    May 13, 2014 8:43 p.m.

    @Navel Lint
    "And how does it seem that way to you? The article stated pretty clearly that "[Hosick] has not been contacted by the University of Utah." So doesn't that seem more like it's Utah who doesn't seem to be the least bit interested in Hosick?"

    What it sounds like is the writer has a ute obsession in bringing up the utes and what is glaringly missing is even a mention of Utah by Hosick. So what it sounds like is Hosick didn't even consider Utah either. The fact that he doesn't even mention the utes despite visiting a school IN the state of Utah certainly seems like he might not even be aware that there are any other football schools of interest in the state of Utah.

    As for the ute QB situation, didn't Kyle say Wilson and Schulz were in the upper echelon of Pac12 QBs? (sound of laughter stifling) Say no more or you'll cause milk to squirt out of my nose!

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    May 13, 2014 9:55 p.m.

    BigCougar:
    I'm aware of how good Mangum played in the spring, I was there. A good friend of mine on the graduate staff simply said he struggled at times during spring practices, and there was a huge difference between Taysom's play and Mangum's. I trust what he says, but Mangum was also a freshman. Bottom line: no one is given the starting job on a silver platter...he'll have to earn it.

  • FACTchequer Salt Lake City, UT
    May 15, 2014 7:27 a.m.

    navelvet

    That lack of comprehension is clearly on your end. Dave Christensen's statements during spring ball clearly indicate that Thompson is his most likely starting QB. Wilson was labeled the #1 QB coming out of spring ball, with the caveate that the competition wouldn't really start until Thompson arrived on campus, clearly indicating that spring ball merely determined the pecking order for Thompson's backup.

  • ajweston Murray, UT
    May 15, 2014 1:02 p.m.

    Not sure why anyone assumes Mangum would transfer? By the time Taysom the Tater graduates, Mangum would compete for the starting job as a Redshirt Sophomore. 3 years of eligibility is plenty of time. And he'd be the favorite and his job to loose. Always love the Yew fans that have to comment on every Y article under the sun. Especially when its about a backup quarterback who will be comming from a JC in a year

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    May 15, 2014 8:56 p.m.

    FACTchequer:

    "That lack of comprehension is clearly on your end. Dave Christensen's statements during spring ball clearly indicate that Thompson is his most likely starting QB."

    Clearly the lack of comprehension was on your end. Please provide us a cut-&-paste quote from Christensen that suggests Thompson is Utah's "heir apparent".

    "Wilson was labeled the #1 QB coming out of spring ball, with the caveate [sic] that the competition wouldn't really start until Thompson arrived on campus, clearly indicating that spring ball merely determined the pecking order for Thompson's backup."

    So your point is....what? That Utah doesn't have an "heir apparent" under center? How does that refute a single thing I said?

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    May 16, 2014 7:25 p.m.

    FACTchequer:

    What? No "cut-&-paste" quote from Coach Christensen?

    I thought not. Utah has no "heir apparent", and YOU were the one who's been suffereing from a "lack of comprehension".

    Case closed.