You forgot one thing. Socialism. Collective ownership and a sense of
responsibility for the whole. My namesake hutterites practise this as well,
albeit at a different level.
for starters they don't have a $650 a month SUV payment and I doubt they
care too much about having a $600 smart phone to play internet games all night
out in the hay field.
Yeah, Hutterite except you forgot one thing: Without the freedom and the
associated capitalism of the United States there would be no Hutterites or
probably even Amish. You see, the great country that is the United States was
the only beacon of freedom for groups such as these to practice their religion
as they saw fit. Countries that were Socialist, Communist, Dictatorial, etc.
have always persecuted, driven off, or killed groups such as these.
Another point regarding socialistic "having all things in common" is
that the people who participate in this lifestyle would need to be committed to
a values standard as well as to each other. Just trying to "legislate"
the sharing of property will not work. For me, I would not want to
try and live this lifestyle until the Lord comes and tells us to.
@Outside-View;Your comment indicates that you believe that is the
way the Lord wants you to live. So, why wait until told to live that way?
The Amish also don't have insurance. Our local hospital cuts them huge
deals and doctors even makes house calls. Not specifically fair. They also
don't have any expenses connected to higher education, however they do make
use of their neighbor's technology by hiring them to drive them places, use
their phones, use trucking services to ship their products or help them move.
They also take advantage of professional services like hospitals and they use
fossil fuels to power their generators. So, yes, there is much to
admire about the lifestyle of the Amish, but much of that lifestyle is made
possible by the rest of the community.
Midwest Mom says:"...but much of that lifestyle is made possible
by the rest of the community."As it is for everybody. Nobody
lives in a vacuum and all the things you also enjoy were made possible by
"the rest of the community". Roads, schools, hospitals, parks, water,
electricity, ... You see where this is going? You also sound jealous, which
begs the question, why not live like they do if you're envious of what they
@RanchOn the contrary, his post seems to indicate that it is -not-
how the Lord has instructed us to live.As a greater misunderstanding
in general, the law of consecration is not socialism. It is a willing covenant,
and its participants still own their own property, increase their possessions
through labor, and are granted "according to their wants and needs", not
according to an arbitrary sense of "equality".Regardless of
what does or does not factor into the lives of the Amish, the principles of
thrift and recycling are universal.
Ranch -- I live in a very rural area, with large Amish populations. As I said,
I admire them for some of what they do, but not all. I bear them no ill will
and I am not jealous of them. But I do get tired of the stereotypes that the
Amish are better than anyone else. Many people see the Amish as some sort of
bucolic ideal. That they are not. Their education is limited, with resulting
ignorance. Many Amish are sweet and humble, yet like other cultures, they have
their rogues and charlatans. Some I've dealt with are incredibly sweet.
Others shrewd and ruthless in their dealings. I've had an Amish man look
my friend and I up and down as he chuckled rudely. We've seen sexual abuse
of an adopted niece by her uncle and cousins that the Amish community tried to
hide and when the girl ran to local authorities for help, she was shunned. The
perpetrators of this abuse were given light, work-release sentences. A few
months for repeated rape. Their quaint appearance and cultural ignorance
inspire assumptions that they are innocents, but they're just like everyone
Socialism is not a major part of the Amish community. They purchase homes and
farms individually, and each family unit has a goal of independence. They do
have close knit communities with frequent social gatherings. However, pot luck
dinners are not synonymous with the common definition of socialism.