Yeah, this should help establish peace in this troubled land. Religion caused
old wounds, and continues to let them fester today.
Great article Dr. Peterson, important, timely, educational and of value. A
much better use of print than religious fables. Please continue, we all have a
lot to learn about all that is happening in the Middle East . Thanks.
Apparently some religions do agree with Christ's admonition to "Do unto
others as you would have others do unto you."I can't think
of a single event in history where a Muslim nation conquered a non-Muslim nation
and the Muslims did not either destroy the places of worship of the vanquished
or convert them to Mosques. Try taking a Mosque and converting it
to a Christian, Jewish or Buddhist place of worship and it will not be pretty.
Muslims can insult your religion but if you return the favor you are quite
likely to be literally missing your head.
My thoughts are that if the Jews try to build now, thats a good way to bring
about Armaggeddon. I'm sure that would unite 200 million angry muslims and
just about wipe out the Jewish state and leave 2 dead prophets on the streets.
Only one third of the Isrealis will survive and will only be saved when Christ
comes to the Mt of Olives and saves them from their enemies. Then the Jews will
realize that Chriist and their Messiah are one in the same. I guess at that
point, and who knows how many months or years that would take to unfold, the
Jews will build their temple. My understanding is that is not to be Christ 2nd
coming, but more of a localized visitatioin. Its going to happen at some point
and its not hard to imagine with the current world dynamics.
The Rock:I'm not permitted to give a link here, but if you
Google Hamblin and Peterson's August 24, 2013, column, "Here are 2
examples of Muslim respect for Christian churches," and read it, you'll
probably revise your opinion.
The prospect of rebuilding the temple in Jerusalem has always been a glorious
one to me.@The Rock:My understanding of the practice of Moslem
conquerors of Christian nations is that they did not destroy existing places of
worship but did not permit the building of new ones. There was a limited
tolerance but one should not look for the level of tolerance traditional in
modern western nations.
One brave leader in the 8th Century, Charles Martel, stopped the Saracen
(Muslim) invaders from destroying Europe and western civilization. If you do not
think that taking away one of the most holy sites in Islam will provoke a wrath
so terrible that the utter destruction of those involved would not be attempted,
you have not read history. I would love to see the temple rebuilt in Jerusalem,
and realize those that begin the process may most assuredly pay a heavy price;
like the soldiers who were in the first wave of the invasion of Normandy. The
prophets have said that blood will run in the streets. Personally, I
am thrilled to anticipate the second coming of the Messiah. I am sure, however,
that the events that precede this miraculous time will be great and terrible.
RE: Verdad, Rebuilt Temple:“These sacrifices, as well as every
ordinance belonging to the Priesthood, will, when the Temple of the Lord shall
be built, and the sons of Levi be purified, be fully restored and attended to in
all their powers, ramifications, and blessings. This ever did and ever will
exist when the powers of the Melchisedek Priesthood are sufficiently manifest;
else how can the restitution of all things spoken of by the holy Prophets be
brought to pass? It is not to be understood that the law of Moses will be
established again with all its rites and variety of ceremonies; this has never
been spoken of by the Prophets; but those things which existed prior to
Moses' day, namely, sacrifice, will be continued.” (Hof C v 4
I don't want war, of course, but it would be AWESOME to see the temple they
would build there.
....yet another reminder of why I'm not a fan of organized religion.
I have read recently, that the site the Dome of Rock sits on, is NOT the former
temple site. The Dome sits in the middle of old Roman Fort Antonia. The
Solomon/Herod Temple actually sat on a temple mount 600 feet south of the Fort
mount. The stone work around the Dome "mount" is of obvious roman
construction and origin. The Spring of Gihon was under the SE corner
of the temple mount and hydraulic forces pushed water up pipes into the
temple.Google search: "Temple Mount Fort Antonia Ernest
Martin" for more info.If the Jews could learn that the temple
was actually at different spot, the 3rd Temple could proceed in peace.
@Hutterite,The current and popular focus on religion as the source
of all wars and other evils is centered on Jews/Muslims, the Crusades and
Protestant/Catholic conflicts in the 1600's and is a fairly widespread
UK/Western European/American view. If you look at all the wars in Asia, Africa,
Eastern Europe over the centuries and especially the bloody 20th century when
100 million people died (WWI and WWII and the wars/famines/genocides in Russia,
China and Cambodia) most conflicts had nothing to do with religion). If you got rid of religion, there would still be war and crime at the same
level. People would still find reasons to hate and other organizations or
philosophies to co-opt in their pursuit of conquest. I've
traveled widely in the Middle East and the overwhelming majority of people there
do not want war or conflict. Our media tend to magnify those who do want war and
their tragic acts. Do you honestly think any of your religious friends are
If the Second Coming happens as a result of building the temple in Jerusalem,
then it kinda ruins the whole idea of "no one knows when except God
himself" idea. Sure, that might be a leading factor, but the
more important thing is to prepare ourselves for the coming of Christ. Focus on
helping yourself and others by coming unto Christ and He will come in God's
own time, whether it is during Armageddon or just a regular day.
Kings Court:Appreciate your comment. My father was not a fan of
organized religion, either. Just recently I realized what organized religion is:
LDS.There is no other church/religion, IMHO, that is as organized as
the LDS. By LDS standards, there is no other and maybe we can say organized
religion, except LDS, does not exist.
"Do you honestly think any of your religious friends are
What happened when they tried to rebuild the Temple under Julian is *extremely*
interesting. Google "What Happened When the Jews Tried to Rebuild the
@LDSareChristians,It's a wonderful sentiment that the Third
Temple could be built in peace alongside the Muslim edifices on the Mount
(assuming revelation showed that the former temples had actually been built
elsewhere on the Mount). But considering that Jews merely attempting to pray on
the Mount is called a "provocation" and met with violent outbursts by
many Muslims, and that Orthodox Jews can only step foot on the Mount under
military escort, I'm not certain that's a very realistic scenario. At
least not in the near future. But maybe someday; and I would certainly welcome