So for years and years we hear about how offensive the name is, but I guess it
becomes less and less offensive the more money they get to say they aren't
Chris B,May I suggest switching allegiances to a school with a
fictitious mascot? I doubt too many Ute or BYU fans would be bothered by such a
This is one of the articles that laughable they even asked him. If he
doesn't support the deal what's he going to say "No, I don't
think the American Indians should be given money or other handouts?" He
doesn't really have that option even if he were to feel that way. I don't think its wrong the University gave the accommodations,
other than every spot given to an American Indian at the university takes away
from someone else who may be more deserving.
Ken"...every spot given to an American Indian at the university
takes away from someone else who may be more deserving."Who says
the University would be giving these same scholarships or tuition waivers to
anyone else? In fact it appears quite the opposite from the information
that's been released. These opportunities were created for the sole purpose
of supporting and working with the Ute tribe and the cost will be handled in
part by donations from people interested in contributing for this exact cause.
In other words, there's nothing that would guarantee these
opportunities would exist for others simply by taking away this agreement with
the Ute tribe.
motorbike"Who says the University would be giving these same
scholarships or tuition waivers to anyone else?" Who indeed? I
didn't. I said every "spot." You do realize there
university has to put a cap on the total number of students they can have,
whether they be scholarhship or not right? A "spot" is different than
a scholarship motorbike. It looks like you confused those two.
Ken"I said every "spot." You do realize there university
has to put a cap on the total number of students they can have, whether they be
scholarship or not right? A "spot" is different than a scholarship
motorbike. It looks like you confused those two."Rather than
throw out random statements with absolutely nothing backing them up ... please
provide documentation showing the last time the University of Utah told someone,
"sorry, we have no more 'spots' available."
Ken,The Ute's who get the scholarships still have to qualify
academically and the money to pay for them will come from merchandise sales.
That funding isn't available to anyone else. In my view there is nothing
to dislike about this agreement. It helps and underpriviledged segment of our
population have better access to college education and it keeps the tradition of
the Ute name and drum and feather logo alive and well at the U. I'm all
I wonder if KWhitt has to suppress eye-rolls every time he has to answer one of
these crazy questions from a hack job reporter? Seriously, it must be hard to
be in the media spotlight and have to deal with what passes for journalism these
@motorbike - It seems you're getting a little defensive sine Ken pointed
out your mistake. Did you really not know there are caps on the total number of
students a university can admit? All universities use a variety of tools to
determine which schools to accept and which not to because there are limited
resources and can't accept unlimited students. I'm just surprised you
didn't know Utah can't accept unlimited students.
Girlse StateEver heard the comment "enrollment is up" and
"enrollment is down"?I most certainly didn't make the
"mistake" you think I made. "Caps" are far more pertinent to
graduate programs than undergrads.So I'll ask you the same
question ... When was the last time the University of Utah told someone,
"sorry, we have no more 'spots' available."
motorbike"When was the last time the University of Utah told
someone, "sorry, we have no more 'spots' available."Unfortunately, it happens hundreds of times every year.Quoting
directly from Utah's official website:"Each year we have
many more students who apply than we can admit."Despite your
denials, the U doesn't have unlimited space and financial resources, so by
necessity, both facilities-wise and budget-wise, the U is forced to restrict the
total number of undergraduate and graduate students who are allowed to enroll
each semester.---------------------------------------It's great that the Universtiy of Utah and Ute Tribe were able to hammer
out a memorandum of understanding, but anybody who believes this isn't
strictly quid pro quo is only fooling themselves.Utah gets something
of value, the use of the Ute name and branding, and the Ute Tribe gets something
of value, relaxed entrance requirements for members of the Ute Tribe for
admission to the U.
It's nice the KW publicly supports the memo of understanding, but the
reality is, he had no choice regardless of his own personal opinion about the
Utah should pay a royalty to the Ute tribe for every t-shirt, hat, poster, etc
that depicts the Ute name or symbols.
Ed Grady,That's exactly where the money is coming from to fund