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  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    April 14, 2014 1:30 p.m.

    I love that we've landed another "preferred walk-on" for the football team. While Hayden wasn't highly recruited, the student body president who was seeing some interest from Harvard seems like a great fit at the Y. I hope he can play his way into a scholarship. Welcome to cougarnation Hayden! Go Cougs!

  • Whatsnu Sandy, UT
    April 14, 2014 1:40 p.m.

    Hayden and Kyle both seem like great young men who will be fine additions to BYU's football program.

  • IndeMak South Jordan, UT
    April 14, 2014 2:56 p.m.

    Sounds like a great kid.

  • wahului Stockton, CA
    April 14, 2014 3:27 p.m.

    Great News!! Now let's get his brother onboard along with Porter Gustin!! Bronco has said numerous times that he wants to capture the outstanding LDS athletes, and these are all in that league! Go get them!!!

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    April 14, 2014 3:32 p.m.

    "Griffitts is a 6-foot-3, 222-pound quarterback prospect..."

    Not according to Rivals, who'd measured him as a 6-1, 198-lbs QB. Nor Scout either (6-1, 195).

    "I had a lot of schools real interested until I told them my plans to serve an LDS mission."

    The way he'd described it, you'd think he'd been actively engaged by teams from the FSU, Miami, and the rest of the SEC. Yet all that had happened was he'd been scouted (but not offered) by Utah, USU, AFA, Harvard, and Weber St.

    "My plan was to serve a mission right out of high school, so when I told schools, they backed off."

    Yeah, I'm sure THAT was reason. Not that he'd been rated as a 0-star QB.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    April 14, 2014 3:36 p.m.

    Wiscougarfan:

    "While Hayden wasn't highly recruited, the student body president who was seeing some interest from Harvard seems like a great fit at the Y."

    The way I'd read it, it was his twin brother (Kyle) who was the student body president.

    It's great that you're excited about landing a 0-star QB, but you guys had already demonstrated a strong aptitude at reeling in the 2-star type gridders. You might be selling yourself a bit short here.

  • Christopher B Ogden, UT
    April 14, 2014 4:20 p.m.

    So of the 60 or so power conference schools, exactly 0 have offered him?

    That's all we need to know.

  • the world Woods Cross, UT
    April 14, 2014 4:32 p.m.

    Navel Vet: "The way he'd described it, you'd think he'd been actively engaged by teams from the FSU, Miami, and the rest of the SEC. Yet all that had happened was he'd been scouted (but not offered) by Utah, USU, AFA, Harvard, and Weber St."

    He didn't claim to be offered by anyone, and he didn't identify or even hint at their caliber.

    The only problem I see is your habit of making unsupported inferences.

  • nhatch82 Eagle Mountain, UT
    April 14, 2014 5:26 p.m.

    to the ute fans that find it necessary to mock this signing....You do realize this kid is a walk on right? We don't think he is going to be the next steve young. just like how your Oklahoma transfer probably won't even play.

  • Erin G. Windermere, FL
    April 14, 2014 8:21 p.m.

    Not according to Rivals, who'd measured him as a 6-1, 198-lbs QB. Nor Scout either (6-1, 195). Those were stats from his freshman year. They never updated them.

  • Big 12 Call Yet? Ogden, UT
    April 14, 2014 8:28 p.m.

    nhatch,

    Our Oklahoma kid was wanted by many big time programs, including Oklahoma

    Yours? 0 power conference teams wanted him.

    Enough said

  • guitarboy South Jordan, UT
    April 14, 2014 8:47 p.m.

    I enjoyed the article. The Griffeths packages looks great.

    the world: You mean, vN (Naval Vet) has a habit of making unsupported inferences? Who knew?

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    April 14, 2014 8:57 p.m.

    Naval

    If you're going to mock a walk-on for saying that schools were interested in him you should list all the schools that were interested (which might require you to look at more than recruitment website rather than cherry picking). In addition to Utah, USU, AFA, Harvard, and Weber St. (rivals) he saw interest from USC and Florida State (scout). But keep playing the stars card, because that is ever so important in evaluating walk-ons.

    We don't know if Hayden will ever play for the Cougars, but we do know that he'll get a fabulous education at a very unique university.

  • BIGDAWGCOUGAR Burley, ID
    April 14, 2014 9:16 p.m.

    Naval Vet, I would trust BYU's judgement with QB over Utah's any day. BYU has a Heisman trophy, Utah doesn't. Sure we had Ryley Nelson, but hey Wynn, Wilson, Hayes, etc etc. If BYU goes after him it's because he is good....

  • nhatch82 Eagle Mountain, UT
    April 14, 2014 10:13 p.m.

    @Big 12?

    so this kid leaves a big time program at Oklahoma to try and get some playing time at a cellar dweller PAC 11 team and still wont play. How great of a pick up could that possibly be? This kid is a walk on and will probably not ever step on the field other than to stretch out. Seems like they are pretty similar. But hey you guys know all because of the great research program the utes provide to the pac 12 so you are probably right.

  • let's roll LEHI, UT
    April 14, 2014 10:15 p.m.

    Since the BCS is gone, we're calling them Power Conferences now? Power to do what? Cross your fingers and hope that some selection committee picks you for the four team playoff? But wait, aren't there more than four "Power" conferences? How can that be?

    And who designated these conferences Power Conferences? I've lived in PAC territory since the '60s, was an Oregon fan when Dan Fouts was the quarterback and Ahmad Rashad was the tailback. Always been a fan of teams, not of conferences. Those who feel compelled to beat the drum about their conference clearly don't think they have much to say about their team...e.g. see my friends at OSU.

    IMO, with the death of the BCS, there are no power conferences, nobody gets a guaranteed seat at the table. At this point, there are only power teams in college football.

    I'll continue to be a fan of the my boyhood team, the Ducks, USC (lived in CA for 20 yrs), and the teams where I went to school, the Utes and the Cougars, can't say I've ever been a fan of the PAC, or any other, conference.

  • never break .500 Los Angeles, CA
    April 15, 2014 12:25 a.m.

    Soooo, thanks for self identifying as a member of a "power conference." Does getting conference money and never winning even close to as many games as you lose qualify you to diminish walk-ons at the Y?

    We all know, and Coach Whit can see as his job is in terrific jeopardy that that power conference experiment has been a dismal failure except for those that schedule you within that conference. Those teams love the U. I know, you won a game vs BYU and Stanford last year….we all know that…how the rest of the season go?

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    April 15, 2014 6:10 a.m.

    Erin G.:

    "Not according to Rivals, who'd measured him as a 6-1, 198-lbs QB. Nor Scout either (6-1, 195). Those were stats from his freshman year. They never updated them."

    That's not supported anywhere. You made that up. How frantic and emotional of you.

    Duckhunter:

    "He's a walk on that had three preferred walk on offers, BYU, USU, and utah...in otherwords [sic] utah wanted him just as much as BYU..."

    That's not supported anywhere. You made that up. How frantic and emotional of you.

    guitarboy:

    So now you're stalking me in TWO periodicals? Your creepy obsession with me knows no limits. And for what it's worth, I didn't make any "unsupported inferences". I "supported" it with a cut-&-paste quote from him.

  • Hawk Littleton, CO
    April 15, 2014 7:36 a.m.

    Wow, I'm amazed how threatened Naval Vet and co. seem to be by this little-known walk-on QB who happens to want to play for BYU. I guess years of QB futility can take a toll....

    I hope the best for this kid on his mission and look forward to seeing him in Provo. Will he be an impact player? Who knows? All we really know about him at this point is that he throws a LOT of touchdowns against very few picks. Sounds like a pretty solid foundation on which to start. Welcome aboard, Hayden!

  • never break .500 Los Angeles, CA
    April 15, 2014 7:59 a.m.

    some people are so fascinated with BYU walkons they search and search to find height and weight figures from earlier in high school….most people are smaller and lighter earlier in their teen years. I'm sure teams in the "power conferences" only have players that were well over 200lbs when they turned 16 in high school.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    April 15, 2014 8:59 a.m.

    @naval

    Here's your comment:

    "That's not supported anywhere. You made that up. How frantic and emotional of you."

    Now here is the comment from the article in the Dnews on the 10th, it is quoting an article from the Orlando Sentinel. It is still right there for you to read.

    "While neither Hayden nor Kyle Griffitts has received a scholarship offer from BYU, they had already been given preferred walk-on status at BYU, Utah and Utah State, according to Hays' article."

    LOL. What a "frantic and emotional" reply from you, and funny since as usual you were 100% wrong. lol

  • Wayne Rout El Paso, TX
    April 15, 2014 9:11 a.m.

    While he may not be able to throw more than 15 yards, it sounds as if he will field punts in practice which is good enough to be a two year starter at BYU.

  • Alpiner Alpine, UT
    April 15, 2014 10:45 a.m.

    So let me get this straight. There is a really great quarterback in Florida who is coming to BYU. It deserves an article in the Desnews. However, he isn't good enough to get a scholarship. Right?

  • talkinsports Gilbert, AZ
    April 15, 2014 11:11 a.m.

    Naval Vet

    Why are you so obsessed with demeaning EVERY prospect that commits to BYU?

    Hayden and Kyle look like great prospects that any program would be happy to have.

    The little brother syndrome obviously runs deep Phily.

  • Riddles in the Dark Olympus Cove, Utah
    April 15, 2014 11:23 a.m.

    Alpiner

    Preferred walk-on status generally means "we like you, but don't currently have a scholarship available for you; come join our team, show us that you're good enough to play for us, and we promise to give you a scholarship as soon as one is available".

    BYU knows that Hayden is going on a mission and when he returns in a couple of years, BYU will likely have a scholarship available for him, maybe after a red-shirt season.

  • 54-10 Salt Lake City, UT
    April 15, 2014 11:42 a.m.

    Sounds like a perfect "will over skill" guy to me.

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    April 15, 2014 11:49 a.m.

    navelvet

    "Not according to Rivals, who'd measured him as a 6-1, 198-lbs QB. Nor Scout either (6-1, 195)."

    According to Rivals, Travis Wilson is 6'6", 205 lbs. Scout has him at 6'6", 210 lbs.

    Utah lists Travis at 6'7", 240 lbs.

    So who's lying?

    Or do you use different "fact checking" standards when it comes to reports about recruits who commit to Utah?

  • Rose Bowl call yet? Salt Lake City, UT
    April 15, 2014 11:52 a.m.

    54IQ

    "Sounds like a perfect "will over skill" guy to me."

    So why did Utah offer him the same deal as BYU - preferred walk-on status?

    Doesn't Utah only recruit 4- and 5-star recruits?

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    April 15, 2014 11:56 a.m.

    @alpiner

    A prefered walk on means they are on the team, no try out, just like a scholarship player their spot on the roster is guaranteed and as Riddles in the Dark pointed out it means they feel that kid will more than likely be in line for a scholarship down the road. Since BYU, USU, and utah all gave both of them prefered walk on offers it means all 3 schools put the same value on them. naval's "frantic and emotional" posts on the subject are really nothing more than that, "frantic and emotional", and they added a humorous element to what would otherwise just be a story we would all take note of but not really give much more thought to. But you have to understand things like this are determining facotrs in the overall mental health and psyche of utah "fans" like naval vet, a kid choosing BYU over utah, even if it is just a prefered walk on, means he has to jump directly into defensive mode to preserve his feelings of superiority. It's a fun thing to witness.

  • BlueHusky Mission Viejo, CA
    April 15, 2014 12:16 p.m.

    Naval Vet is at it again. Making unsupported statements then disparaging anyone who disagrees with him.

    NV, I'm still waiting for you to make that $1000 bet. Yes it's me. Greek Sophistry on Discus.

    I think you're probably a pretty good guy, but you sound like a juvenile in most of your posts. Why did you go out of your way to diss a kid who wants to play at BYU? That's just small ... you're better than that. Really.

    Give the kid a break.

  • goodDr. sandy, UT
    April 15, 2014 1:05 p.m.

    Let's pick on the teenager who is leaving on a mission to Japan. He is simply excited to get preferred walk on status. Impressive is that he only threw 2 INT's in his Sr. season.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    April 15, 2014 1:21 p.m.

    Snack WAC:

    That's an entirely separate issue. Wilson WAS 6-6, 205....back in 2012. But this is 2014 -- 2 yrs later. Hayden's stats were from last fall. There are no reports of him adding 35-lbs since then.

  • deductive reasoning Arlington, VA
    April 15, 2014 3:03 p.m.

    navelvet

    LOL at your spin.

    Hayden WAS 6'1", 198 lbs; NOW he's 6'3", 222 lbs.

    Why is it so hard for you to accept that a still growing teenager might have added a couple of inches and 20+ pounds since last summer?

    You obviously haven't been around teenaged boys recently. My nephew always seems to be wearing floods, because he's constantly growing out of his pants.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    April 15, 2014 3:25 p.m.

    @naval

    "Hayden's stats were from last fall. There are no reports of him adding 35-lbs since then."

    Sure there were, right here in this article. You do realize it doesn't have to be on the rivals or scout websites to make it so don't you? lol

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    April 15, 2014 3:58 p.m.

    deductive reasoning:

    Hayden IS 6-1, 198. That's the only supported measurements. Those extra inches and pounds is due to a typo, and one that cougar fans have excitedly glommed on to in order assuage the disappointment of landing yet ANOTHER unheralded recruit. And THIS one wasn't even good enough to be awarded 2-stars. So LOL at YOUR spin.

  • Erin G. Windermere, FL
    April 15, 2014 4:01 p.m.

    Ha! Well since I am his mother I have his annual physical stats from his dr to go by. Purely fact, not emotional. And yes, both of my boys have gained/lost 20-30 pounds in a season/offseason. One of my sons gained 60 pounds his freshman year, when he started lifting weights for the first time. College players will often put on 30-40 pounds when they start working out and eating properly, but then I would think you would already know that from following all the stats! I've followed the stats on scout and rival since my boys were freshmen. They're always off because they grow an inch or gain/lose weight before it's printed. Believe me that at this exact moment Hayden is 6'3" 222 pounds. Guess what he's not in season. Even if those stats are from beginning if senior year, He's gained weight since he's not playing football right now. He just came back from vaca, I bet he weighs 225 now!

  • BlueHusky Mission Viejo, CA
    April 15, 2014 4:13 p.m.

    NV - give it a rest, dude. He's going on a mission first. We'll see him when he gets back. If ever. His high school stats are meaningless. His ranking is meaningless. He'll get a chance to make the team. That's more than you or I would have ever been offered.

    I wonder how you'd feel if someone like you were dissing your son.

    Give the kid a break.

  • Solomon the Wise Alpine, UT
    April 15, 2014 4:36 p.m.

    Navel Vet is in such desperate denial that he probably won't even believe the testimony from Hayden's own mother about Hayden's current height and weight.

    According to our phily friend, Rivals and Scout are gospel, and any report that contradicts these two sites is heresy.

  • BlueCoug Orem, UT
    April 15, 2014 4:45 p.m.

    Once again, Naval Vet pretends to know more about a BYU recruit he's never even seen in person, than the player's teammates, coaches, and even parents know simply because some anonymous high school scout posted it on Rivals or Scout.

  • nhatch82 Eagle Mountain, UT
    April 15, 2014 4:46 p.m.

    @Erin G

    We are happy to have your son! Hope he has a great mission and look forward to him at the Y! Hopefully he doesn't go to South America, gets some sort of worm, loses 25 lbs, and comes back at 198. Then Naval would be right all along!

  • Erin G. Windermere, FL
    April 15, 2014 6:21 p.m.

    @navalvet they were not recruited by Sec caliber schools, but they were recruited by d1 schools. They made their intentions very clear since freshman year. (Byu, missions). They had high school coaches telling them play the game, talk to scouts. As they did, they were honest in intentions. Both boys decided against pretending they wanted offer from a smaller school just to get offer. When asked by eastern Kentucky, charleston southern, weber state, Iowa state or other local schools would they be willing to commit right there on the spot They were honest and said no. That's why it's not in the paper. Both boys decided they wanted to walk on at a bigger school and earn an offer they really wanted. Scouts don't always get it right. Paper and stats don't have a gut feeling. My boys have had 4 OCs, 2 head coaches and multiple all star coaches in central florida 8A. Everyone of them has said there's something special about these boys more than the physical and stats....intangibles, work ethic, leadership, motivation, instinct, inspirational.....Sometimes dreams do come true with a little hard work. See you in 2016!!! Go Cougars!!!

  • Erin G. Windermere, FL
    April 15, 2014 6:24 p.m.

    preferred walk on status is for high school kids who aren't quite the top of their game yet but have potential when they get in a d1 program with good coaching and proper meal/workout plans. That's all Hayden was saying.....I'd love the opportunity to show you what I've got!

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    April 15, 2014 6:56 p.m.

    Naval Vet

    Those extra inches and pounds is[sic] due to a typo [what typo? Hayden's own mother confirmed the accuracy of those extra inches and pounds], and one that Cougar fans have excitedly glommed on to in order assuage the disappointment [what disappointment?] of landing yet ANOTHER "unheralded" recruit [that was offered the exact same walk-on status by Utah].

    It's obvious that NV is having a complete panic attack over another recruit that committed to BYU instead of that school up north.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    April 15, 2014 7:22 p.m.

    Uteanymous:

    "It's obvious that NV is having a complete panic attack over another recruit that committed to BYU instead of that school up north."

    This kid is a 0-star athlete. If anyone is having a panic attack, it'd be the fans of the team that brought him onboard.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    April 15, 2014 7:37 p.m.

    NV:
    Seriously...c'mon dude. The kid is a walk-on which means he's not a recruit and won't be listed on BYUs recruiting class. Obviously Utah was interested in him and offered him the same deal. Or maybe you could ask his Mom what he thought of Utah...sounds like she'd be more than happy to share it with you. Utah's walk-ones aren't recruits anymore than BYUs walk-ons so stop treating it like it's the same thing.

    Erin:
    We're excited to see what your son can do. Our all time leading receiver was also 0 stars but obviously all the recruiting services got it wrong on him. Sounds like your son is a hard worker and has what it takes. We wish him well on his mission and when he returns to BYU.

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    April 15, 2014 7:38 p.m.

    This "kid" is an athlete that Utah wanted just as badly as BYU.

    The only person having a panic attack here is the fan of a school that was spurned in favor of BYU.

    Slap another PAC 12 sticker on something; maybe it will help assuage the bitter disappointment of losing another recruiting battle to BYU.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    April 15, 2014 7:59 p.m.

    Oops my fault...Cody Hoffman was 2 stars. It was our all time leading TE & current NFL starter Dennis Pitta that was 0 stars coming out of HS.

  • Seldom Seen Smith Orcutt, CA
    April 16, 2014 1:20 p.m.

    Boycott Division I football and basketball.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    April 16, 2014 3:16 p.m.

    Uteanymous:

    "This 'kid' is an athlete that Utah wanted just as badly as BYU."

    I doubt that very much. Just look at you cougar fans falling all over yourselves because you reeled in a 0-star athlete who was born with a road map to Provo. And Utah already has six 3-star QBs, plus another 2-star transfer from Wyoming that we weren't really all that excited about, so we really don't need any more, and especially not if they're the 0-star kind. The cougars' QB roster is a bit thinner. You clearly "WISH" Utah wanted him as much as the Y, but it seems pretty evident that the Y wanted/needed him a LOT more than we did.

  • phoenix Gilbert, AZ
    April 16, 2014 5:12 p.m.

    naval vet

    You've already proven just how unreliable your "opinion" is.

    Utah offered Hayden the exact same preferred walk-on status as BYU.

    You're just steamed that he chose BYU over Utah.

    If he'd chosen Utah over BYU, your past track record shows that you would have been praising him as the great thing since sliced bread.

    BYU is well stocked with QBs, but Bronco, unlike Kyle, has always understood the value of having a well-stocked QB roster.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    April 17, 2014 10:28 a.m.

    phoenix:

    I already told you....I couldn't care less that a 0-star kid isn't coming to the U. Additionally, it had not been "proven" how "unreliable" my opinion is. All that had been "proven" was that I don't read the Orlando Sentinel, and that the DNews moderators keep censoring my factual rebuttals for every other issue raised on these threads.

  • Perkunas Ashburn, VA
    April 17, 2014 11:01 a.m.

    At some point you need to simply admit you're wrong, you got owned by a high school kid's mother, and move on.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    April 17, 2014 12:11 p.m.

    Perkunas:

    Just because Erin "claims" to be this kid's mother, that doesn't make it so.

  • Perkunas Ashburn, VA
    April 17, 2014 2:12 p.m.

    NV, that's great advice considering the personal bona fides you've thrown out over the yeats in an effort to gain credibility.

    Seriously, what does a middle-aged guy get out of arguing about the physical stats of a high schooler who's a preferred walk-on on a team he doesn't root for? Life's too short.

  • Reno Cougs Fan 68 Reno, NV
    April 17, 2014 7:55 p.m.

    Navel Vet,
    The same could be said for your moniker!!! What have you done to prove you are in fact a Navel Vet? I think it is safe to say that both Kyle and Bronco think this kid might be a diamond in the rough that could help their teams or neither would have offered the kid a chance!!! The kid has good stats against good competition in Florida!!!NV, seems to me you are being very frantic and emotional to devote so much time and comments on a walk on of your "non" rival!!!

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    April 18, 2014 10:44 a.m.

    Naval, when you find yourself in a hole, first rule of thumb is, quit digging.

    Erin, Cougar Nation admires both of your boys for their priorities, and we hope to see them both get a shot. Can't ask for more! While we're at it, we admire their mom, and everyone else that helped them learn to work hard and choose wisely.

    My son walked on the Y baseball team, and while magic didn't happen for him, nobody can ever take away the fact that he had a season of D1 competion, and at BYU.

    Wayne, you forgot to mention the broken back. If Naval offers you the shovel, here's a hint: don't take it.

  • Brio Alpine, UT
    April 18, 2014 12:11 p.m.

    @ Naval Vet and Chris B:

    There is absolutely no doubt that Kyle Whittingham drools at the idea of ever getting a prospect like this kid... a guy who throws 34 TD's against only 2 interceptions throughout an entire season. It's extremely rare that a high school QB like that ever goes to the U. And given the QB issues the Utes have been having as an Achilles heal for the team, there's no doubt whatsoever that Utah would absolutely love having this guy.

    In fact, had he chosen to come to Utah, you two would completely change your stories and would consider him one of the best pickups the Utes have had in quite some time. I've seen both your biases in action many different times before and know exactly how and why you think and react to players who sign and don't sign with the U. Your responses now are as predictable as the sun rising.

    Enjoy living in football la-la land while the Utes continue playing merry-go-round with their coaches as pontential answers to their struggles. Discing players who don't choose the U simply cost you respect and credibility.

  • Objectified Tooele, UT
    April 18, 2014 12:51 p.m.

    @ Brio:

    You are spot on with your comment. Well said. I couldn't agree more about the predictable bias of some of the more overly passionate Ute fans. They are indeed totally predictable. The fact that they are getting so excited and caught up in their comments about this QB choosing the Y only shows how badly they feel about him not choosing the U. It's their demonstrated and proven ways of hiding their disappointment, even if they themselves don't realize it.
    Most BYU criticizers have never set a foot on campus and so thusly criticize out of ignorance.

    To Erin and your husband:

    As Y fans, we are genuinely excited about your son deciding to come to Brigham Young University. He has already proven himself in football camps at the Y and on the football field in Florida. Any college would be fortunate to have the caliber of individuals and players that both your sons are. They will undoubtedly cherish their time at the Y like most who attend there experience. It's a unique and very positive environment in multiple ways. It's win-win for both your family and for the Y.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    April 18, 2014 3:22 p.m.

    Good for the kid; getting to play where he wanted too. BYU really has nothing to lose here.

    I do find it funny that so many folks here are critical of NavalVet; yet they are the exact same ones; who do the exact same thing on every Utah article. Sheeesh!

  • TroyTown Anaheim, CA
    April 18, 2014 3:42 p.m.

    Spokane Ute

    Did you ever consider that it's because of Utah fans like Chris B and Naval Vet, that BYU fans have started to respond in kind?

    BYU fans are simply pointing out the inconsistency of CB, NV and other Utah fans when it comes to comparing recruits that commit to Utah versus BYU.

    A walk on at Utah is always considered a diamond in the rough.
    A walk on at BYU is always considered a player that no one else wanted.

  • Proud Ute ,
    April 19, 2014 7:07 a.m.

    This young man gets to play NCAA football and get a first class education all while on scholarship.
    Doesn't get much better than that does it?