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Utah Jazz: Jazz, Lakers battle for pride, pingpong balls

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  • GoRed WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    April 13, 2014 10:06 p.m.

    Pride is overrated; ping pong balls are not.

  • rvalens2 Burley, ID
    April 13, 2014 11:15 p.m.

    The NBA draft will be deep this year; however, I'd rather see the Jazz picking 4th than at 6th. In a couple of years, no one will remember these last two games. What they will remember is who the Jazz picked.

  • stonewall Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 14, 2014 12:18 a.m.

    You're wrong about the tie-breakers, Jody. Records against an opponent aren't used as tie-breakers. If teams finish with the same record, they split the lottery odds evenly with a coin flip used to determine who gets an extra combination in the event of an odd number or to determine who picks first if neither team moves into the lottery's top 3.

  • sky2k1 Provo, UT
    April 14, 2014 12:18 a.m.

    I'm pretty sure we can match any offer for hayward, so he doesn't leave unless we really don't want him.

  • Farmhand20 Vernal, UT
    April 14, 2014 5:53 a.m.

    "Battling for pride"? Exactly how much pride could their be in beating a team on a night that even Grandma's knitting club would win ? Someone ask the Denver Nuggets if they are "proud" to have finished the season one win better than San Antonio in 1997 ? If the Lakers are up by a point or two to start the 4th quarter tonight, the Jazz should just hold the ball and not take another shot. Who cares if they get T'd up, the Jazz need these ping-pong balls in the worst way. Please Jazz, think about the future, not just one game.

  • coleman51 Orem, UT
    April 14, 2014 9:54 a.m.

    I would ask the Jazz fans a question. Is one win against the Lakers more important to them with the possibility of losing a chance at a franchise player? Or would they rather not take any chances, land a franchise player, and re-group next season? This game should be played with the future in mind. Just to remind Jody, if the Jazz lose, the Lakers and Jazz go into a tie-breaker. At that point, it's a coin toss that determines who is fourth and fifth in the draft. Don't be fooled, the Lakers will win the toss. We have all seen this before but with much less consequences for the Jazz. The Celtics are likely not going to lose to the 76's so it is likely going to be us and the Lakers for that fourth spot. This game is not important to the Jazz to win for pride. It is much more important to lose for the future of the franchise.

  • Iowa Jazz Fan 2 Cedar Rapids, IA
    April 14, 2014 10:02 a.m.

    Unlike in the NFL, this "worst-gets-first" pick system does not work in the NBA. So many fewer players to be drafted; so much more impact on their teams for the top picks.

    The NBA should forget about weighted ping-pong balls and go to a straight lottery system. Each team that does not make the playoffs should have one ping-pong ball. The 14th worst team has the same chance at the #1 pick as the worst team. This would eliminate the need for this ridiculous tanking. The paying fans in SLC, Milwaukee, Philadelphia and other cities have been cheated this year. They pay hard-earned bucks to come and see their team win. Management would not have to put an outclassed team on the floor in an attempt to lose. Go straight lottery and try to win all 82 games. It's a lot fairer than the present charade.

  • Man in Charge Chihuahua, 00
    April 14, 2014 10:22 a.m.

    The Jazz better bench all the starters if they want to win this game. However it should be noted that the 5th and 6th spots in the draft lottery have won it more times than the 4th spot.

  • Idahotransplant West Jordan, UT
    April 14, 2014 10:24 a.m.

    I do not know who it will be but the Jazz need to find either in free agency, a trade or the draft a 2 or a 3 defensive stopper who can score 10 or more a game. They have Favors down low but he is susceptable when Kanter is on the floor with him.

    Sign Hayward, trade Kantor, sign Marvin Williams, use the assets they have to get better defensively. They have shown they can score but have been inconsistant at best. Defense was weak this year especially 3 point, Kantor in the middle and transition. it looks like not only did Al Jefferson show Kantor some offensive moves but how to play weak defense as well.

  • Mark from Montana Davis County, UT
    April 14, 2014 10:44 a.m.

    Two Predictions;

    1. The Jazz will win tonight. The Lakers are better at tanking and Jazz still have a small amount of pride.

    2. Gordon Hayward will not be back. I believe he will sign a very expensive deal in the east and will not look back.

  • Sneaky Jimmy Bay Area, CA
    April 14, 2014 11:16 a.m.

    So the Jazz get a top 5 pick in draft. so what? They need a lot more than that. Maybe they can sign Greg Oden in the off season. (sarcasm)

  • TerryHaimes Sturgis, MS
    April 14, 2014 11:19 a.m.

    Take your ping pong balls and make beads out of them. Do you want to play winning basketball or not?

  • Tuffy Parker Salem, UT
    April 14, 2014 11:53 a.m.

    Even with Stern gone, I'm predicting that the Lakers end up with a pick in the 1st to 3rd range.

  • Brahmabull sandy, ut
    April 14, 2014 12:06 p.m.

    It doesn't matter either way. One high draft pick is not going to make the jazz much better. Look how many top 10 picks they have already... and they are terrible.

  • Farmhand20 Vernal, UT
    April 14, 2014 12:10 p.m.

    @ Mark from Montana:
    I am afraid your predictions are going to be right.

    @TerryHaimes:
    Like I said in my other post, it is not "winning basketball" when your opponent is playing on the same level as Grandma's knitting club. Which is pretty much where the Lakers will be tonight. The only winner tonight will be whoever ends up with more ping pong balls.
    However, if I know the Jazz's mentality, they'll think a win tonight is a "strong finish to the season".

  • Farmhand20 Vernal, UT
    April 14, 2014 12:32 p.m.

    NBA RULE 5
    Section 1 d.

    A field goal accidentally scored in an opponent's basket shall be added to the opponent's score, credited to the opposing player nearest the shooter and mentioned in a footnote.

    Accidentally tap a couple of missed shots in for the Lakers tonight Jazz.
    Make it look like an accident however, because shooting at opposing teams basket on purpose is a violation. Section 1 e.

  • Richie Saint George, UT
    April 14, 2014 1:01 p.m.

    Play the end of the bench which should be Jefferson, Lucas, Rush, Williams, Thomas, Clark and Murphy.

  • Osgrath Provo, UT
    April 14, 2014 1:28 p.m.

    Farmhand: nice strategy. I'm curious what the penalty would be for intentionally shooting at the opponent's basket - a technical foul, resulting in Laker free throws? I agree that scoring for the Lakers should be done discreetly though - we don't want anybody outside of Utah to think we are tanking.

  • Farmhand20 Vernal, UT
    April 14, 2014 3:14 p.m.

    Osgrath

    Here is what Rule 5 - section 1 e. says:

    "It is a violation for a player to attempt a field goal at an opponent's basket. The opposing team will be awarded the ball at the free throw line extended."

    It doesn't say anything about a technical, but I'm sure the refs would T the Jazz up, if it happened, especially more than one time. Probably lead to some ejections. That is okay however, because the Jazz could then sub in Gail Miller, and a couple of ushers if needed.

  • OrlandoJazzFan Winter Springs, FL
    April 14, 2014 9:20 p.m.

    So much for battling for Pride... Would have been nice to see some battle... I just hope at some point in some season we can see the fight come back.