Yes, he was coming off the bench, but still played significant minutes. So the question still remains, why would Matt want to leave a big time
program.A very relevant and possible question, even if byu fans
don't want to admit it, is if Matt was feeling uneasy about being one of
very few non-lds students. A recent basketball player at byu who also left said
he left partly because he didn't feel comfortable and because he was being
pressured to join the lds religion.That is sad that students are
pressured to do that - and not just accepted. And yes, there is a difference
between an invitation and pressure - and like I said a very recent player who
left said he was pressured.Matt, this is a good decision and one I
imagine you'll be very happy with.Best of luck to you.
I'm not sure how big a loss it will be for BYU, time will tell. What I am
sure of is that whoever signs him will need to take Xanax or something before
each game with his erratic inconsistent play. He has talent, and can score in
bunches as Andy Katz indicated but he also turns the ball over and makes poor
decisions almost as often.
Chris:Lloyd was the exception when it comes to non lds athletes that have
played at BYU. The majority of them have had nothing but positive to say about
their experience at BYU and the friendships and atmosphere it provided. Leave it
to you to try and highlight the exceptions to stir up controversy. Ask Cody
Hoffman about BYU and his experience. It's my understanding that he was a
big part of recruiting Nick Kurtz and Devon Blackmon to BYU, who like Hoffman
are not LDS.
RE: KorenekYour question is easy to answer--he wants more playing
time, more of the spotlight, and to feel more valued. Your
assertion that he is uneasy around LDS is silly, he's never made any
comment to support that. To the contrary he grew up around members of the LDS
faith, and has cited the influence of LDS friends as one of the reasons he came
to BYU in the first place. Saying that his experience is identical to Michael
Lloyds is like me saying that you hate all things BYU/LDS because giraffes have
spots. It's true that giraffes have spots but that has nothing to do with
you. Best of luck to Matt.
@ CBI don't know why he is leaving BYU. But he also left UCLA and
Indiana two of the most prominent programs.He is probably sick of being
number 2 on the team and wants to be the star.Why would a seventh round
(if that) NFL draft pick leave Utah Football? Jake Murphy has his reasons just
and of course the Honor Code itself also requires single people to abstain from
sexual relations. For people who don't want to abide by that standard,
then being enrolled at BYU will interfere with their desires. For those people
who don't want to live by that standard that factor will probably
substantially outweigh whether or not other BYU students gave them numerous
invitations to investigate the Mormon faith.
He's a good kid and teammate and not a bad basketball player. Only he
knows the reason why he is leaving and the speculation is just that,
speculation. He represented the school really well, especially considering he
was not LDS. This is not the time to take pot shots at BYU or Matt. Both will
be fine without the other.
beSmart,Ya - Jake Murphy is leaving because even a 7th round pick
can make millions.Is that why carlino is leaving? To make
millions?No Utah fan would argue or disagree with a decision to go
get rich and play in the NFL over staying at Utah, so you're really using a
bad strawman argument there.
@chrisbDon't know where your insider BYU info comes from. My
guess is it is your head. However there was a very interesting
article posted the day before Carlino announce he was transfering called
"BYU basketball: Thanks to influx of talent, BYU coach Dave Rose says
Cougars will be better next season." by the desnews. I thought it was
interesting that it talked about having 14 roster players for next year and only
13 scholarships available. Its possible BYU nudged him out the door. Too many
players and a number of players that are more than capable of taking over for
Carlino. Just a thought.
Sorry nhatch but even with being a scholarship short, I can't imagine
Carlino would have been the one to not get one next year were he staying.
He's played too many minutes for that. It would have been withheld from
someone else-- my guess would have been Sharp or Halford. This certainly makes
that process a bit easier on the staff with no "nudging" necessary.
@ChrisBIf memory serves countless players left the Ute program a few
years back.is that because they were being pressured to become LDS,
or were the Utes just bad?
Chris BDo athletes frequently leave Notre Dame because they
can't handle its faith-based mission?After all, isn't
BYU's adherence to LDS principles nearly identical to this statement from
Notre Dame's website:"Although unwavering in its
Catholicism [Mormonism], the University requires no particular belief of its
community members and asks only that all be willing to appreciate and nurture
the University's mission."
@ CBI was giving Murphy too much credit.He will most likely be an
undrafted free agent16% of undrafted make it on NFL rosters.Why not
stay a year get a degree and increase draft position?Must not like Utah
much.and yes more draft picks picked in higher rounds make NFL roster.The draft is just like the star rating. Not perfect but accurate.
I think a big reason why Matt is transferring is to open up opportunities in
graduate school. He can transfer somewhere and begin grad school. This is just
some educated speculation, but I think it is a certain possibility.
Carlino simply is not consistent enough of a shooter to make it big. His numbers
Fieldgoal % 2011-2012- .401%Fieldgoal % 2012-2013- .408%Fieldgoal %
2013-2014- .385%- DOWN3Point % 2011-2012- .331%3Point %
2012-2013- .335%3Point % 2013-2014- .339%- UNCHANGEDFT%
2011-2012- .759%FT% 2012-2013- .718%FT% 2013-2014- .689%- DOWNAnd why do we care if her leaves? Nice guy but just an average player at
best. Anyone see any improvements over 3 years?
nhatch - What insider information? If you're referring to my comment about
a recent player leaving, my source was ESPN and the player was Michael LLoyd.
Do you consider that insider information? Trust me, ESPN is not considered
insider info. Its very public actually, check it out sometime.BB -
Yes, players left Utah because we were bad. We all admitted it. Unlike byu
fans, we can call things like they are both ways. Truth - "Do
players frequently leave Notre Dame because of it being a faith based
institution"?I don't know, you tell me. Can you give me
proof where a player left because they felt too pressured from others there to
I'm guessing Carlino had a number of reasons for leaving, some personal and
some involving the team, all of which contributed to what may have been a
straightforward decision process.For example, it wouldn't
surprise me if he actually volunteered to be the odd man out to give other
teammates an opportunity. He has a history of moving on, so maybe he's
excited about another opportunity elsewhere--might have happened regardless
where he was--a classic case of wanderlust.Other reasons already
mentioned could have factored in, e.g. a particular masters program elsewhere,
he's graduated so why continue to be in a position to have to follow the
full honor code, desire to be closer to/further from family, maybe would like to
live in a warmer climate.Perhaps any single reason would not have
been enough, but collectively it became a no-brainer for him.I'm sure a lot of BYU fans will continue to follow him, especially if he
lands at a recognized program--would be too funny if the school plays BYU this
"He is sincerely interested in a Masters Degree not offered at BYU"?
Seriously? That excuse is simply and NCAA loophole that more and more kids are
taking advantage of and the reason is purely for reason involving the sport that
they play.As for "pressure to join the LDS Church" he has
probably been telling people / students for years that he is not interested in
joining the Church even before he came to BYU. I doubt that would finally get to
him. I am more disappointed than surprised that he made this
decision. I hope it works out for both parties.
It's a sad situation when a player transfers. Matt had his reasons and we
may never know the whole story. It's his business and the business of the
Cougar basketball program. Let it be.
Carlino was great or bad. Overall a good player. He might be missed, might be
the best thing that could have happened. A lot will depend on how Bartley
develops and how good Chapman and Fisher turn out to be. If those guys turn out
to be as good as expected, better to get some young guys some experience.
Collinsworth is a better point guard when healthy than Carlino. Just have to
wait and see. Hope Carlino finds what he is looking for - we had some great
He's graduating. He obviously wants to go to grad school somewhere else,
which is perfectly normal.
I loved Carlino coming in; I will miss him! Best wishes.
Hope he finds a good program, fits in well and can dive into a graduate program
he's really interested in. He's got a lot of good court sense and
skills but a bit hot/cold shooting - maybe there's a solution to that and
he'll find it to wrap up his career. He should be proud of what he did