Hmmm . . . This whole thing looks pretty suspicious, doesn't it?A coal company kills six miners and blames it on a natural earthquake, but
nothing in the article suggests that any seismic activity was recorded in that
area by the Global Seismograph Network.So I guess we take the mine
owner's word for it, and just ignore the increasing number of
coal-mine-related disasters around the country . . . Like the poisoning of
Huntington WV's drinking water and the recent spill of coal gunk into a
stream in North Carolina that may very well pollute farmland when that stream
floods in the spring.And now, a mining company is suing the EPA?
Looks like a diversionary tactic to me.This is not the time to
lighten up on the enforcement of mining regulations.The public
deserves to be protected from government-hating "Conservatives" who
want to eliminate useful regulations.
Hmm. So the mine was immediately adjacent to the Joe’s Valley Fault. If
Mr. Romboy had bothered to research the issue, he would have learned that
neither the University of Utah nor Berkeley have publicly concluded what first
triggered the main seismic event. Indeed, the University of Utah’s report
conceded that “the first motion data alone do not provide definitive
results because normal-faulting mechanisms can also be fit to the data.”
Such “normal faulting mechanisms” are very consistent with the
observed tectonics of the region, including that of the Joe’s Valley
Fault. And, "normal-faulting mechanisms" could include fault tip
propagation of one or more of the many sympathetic or sub faults that in the
sandstone, siltstone and other layers above and below the mine could have
affected one or more of the strong sandstone layers that overlay the mine. But,
Dennis, instead of ignoring these scientific findings and facts, it's
easier to continue spreading the fabricated story that Mr. Murray lied about an
Remember kids,This is the man that during the Crandall Mine Disaster was quoted in a television interview, "I was walking along a trail
in the woods one day when a squirrel jumped up on top of a tree stump in
front of me and said Robert, you ought to start a coal mine".
Forget the messenger for a minute and instead concentrate on the message. The
Federal Government, the EPA, is closing hundreds of coal mines and hundreds of
power plants with nothing on the horizon to adequately replace them. We will
pay more, much more, for this action and most of us do not even care because it
sounds nice.Evolution comes because we have better ideas not because it is
forced on us because they know better than us. This is not freedom, this is not
the American way.Change will naturally come because that is the way it
always has but forced change has never been better for us. Big brother dies not
know best nor methinks that he even cares. This is all about control and we all
lose.And as far as the messenger is concerned, I live here where Crandall
canyon is and we realize that accidents happen to good people and the mines here
move all the time, there is nothing we can do about it unless we completely stop
mining but we all still will pass on one way or another.
Let's see...A Coal Company is about making money.A
Coal Company cuts corners to make more money, and fails to keep it's
mine safe.9 people die, and he looses his moeny.He is
then sue'd in court.How does one CYA and get back his money?He counter sue the mean 'ole nastsy Government for finding him guilty in
the 1st place.Trying to stick it to the rest of us tax payers.9 families are dealing with loss of the Husbands and Fathers.1 man is
dealing with the loss of his Money, and trying to spread HIS loss on the
rest of us.And you wonder why I loathe businessmen?
According to: Seismological Report on the 6 Aug 2007 Crandall Canyon Mine
Collapse in Utah," . . . . "Two lines of evidence indicate that most of
the seismic wave energy of this event was generated by the mine collapse rather
than a naturally-occurring earthquake.?. . . But just "most"
and not all? How much is most? . . . 51 percent? 99.9 percent?
remember, by BO's own words, under his plan electricity rates will of
Amazing. This article is clearly about a new lawsuit being filed against the EPA
for a controversial regulation they issued which will close hundreds of coal
powered electricity producing plants around the entire country and cost tens of
thousands of jobs and most of the comments here are about 7 year old news that
has nothing to do with the recent EPA ruling. Talk about missing the boat. This isn't a diversion tactic by Murray Energy. It's a
survival tactic. If hundreds of plants that use their coal shut down, they will
likely go out of business and their thousands of employees will be out of work,
along with tens of thousands of other coal miners around the country and other
affiliated workers. The EPA regulation in the center of this issue
is huge. If all those coal powered plants are shut down and need to be replaced
with new plants, the cost of electricity will rise dramatically for most people
in the country. And yet, somehow the jest of all that is missed by most of the
above comments as they continue to re-hash 7 year old news. Get with it.
The EPA has become a quasi-government, that makes laws, passes judgement, and
executes the rules. None of which is defensible except in costly time consuming
law suits. All without oversight or limitations.
Objectified,Thank you for your comment. Well thought out, not just a
knee-jerk reaction to the "evil coal mines".Thank you for seeing
the big picture.
For what price blood money, that is what counts; the rest is just people: right?
There's no 'war on coal' - coal is a very dirty fuel. Period.
Nearly the entire Periodic Table is in coal - and then in coal ash (the part
that doesn't go up the stacks). Want cadmium, mercury, arsenic,
lead, …? It's all there, as well as the particulates exacerbating our
many respiratory problems.Thank God for California and the EPA -
because they actually care about our health. Massey certainly doesn't.Why doesn't Massey use the $$ he'll spend on this
PR-generating lawsuit to help transform the communities his miners and drivers
live in - to help those communities transform their economy away from coal,
perhaps to renewable energy technologies?Coal fueled the 18th and
19th C (as well as the 20th). Those centuries are long over. We are now in the
21st C. Our leaders and business people should wake up to that fact.
@Reporterson: Murray claims that the Crandall Canyon Mine collapse was
triggered by a 3.9 magnitude earthquake, while government seismologists say the
mine collapse was the cause of a coal mine bump. Richard E. Stickler, the
government's top mine safety official said "It was not -- and I repeat,
it was not -- a natural occurring earthquake."Douglas S. Dreger, a
seismologist at the University of California, Berkeley, said in the July 2008
issue of Science that his analysis strongly suggested that the mountain crumbled
in two stages: After the pillars collapsed, giant, angled slabs of sandstone
above the mine abruptly shifted. When the mine collapse finally occurred, it was
so powerful that it registered as a 3.9 earthquake.Murray is a
prime example of money first, corporate mentality, and the usual suspects praise
Just in Texas, there have been just shy of4,000 people killed by autos since 1
Janaury 2014. It sad that any one is killed, but, we are mortal so either get
some perspective on life, or cut your power line!
A correction just shy of 400 killed not 4000, but still, tragic and risk are
part of life. I do not work coal, used to burn it to heat the home, better than
gas or electic as to price per BTU.
Good!I hope the EPA gets totally crushed in court.They
won't, but I can still hope it.EPA: Excessively Protective of