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BYU football: Cougars receive commitment from three-star quarterback

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  • flatlander Omaha, NE
    March 20, 2014 7:56 p.m.

    Way to beat out Porttland State on the recruit.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    March 20, 2014 8:11 p.m.

    Great start to a great recruiting class.

    2014 - 2015 - Hill
    2016 - 2018 - Mangum
    2019 - 2020 - Domena

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    March 20, 2014 9:17 p.m.

    So were Portland state and Colorado state just some of his offers or all of them? Does anyone know if even one of the 50 or so bcs teams offered him?

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    March 20, 2014 10:02 p.m.

    I think he could be totally pretty awesome.

  • Outside-View Federal Way, WA
    March 20, 2014 10:52 p.m.

    I hope that Mangum ends up returning to BYU. With the change of offensive philosophy, he may end up going elsewhere. Boise State or Washington may now be his best fit.

    Not a lot of competition for this player. Remember, some QB become great DB's.

  • eastcoastcoug Danbury, CT
    March 21, 2014 5:42 a.m.

    I'm more concerned with how well we develop these kids once they get to BYU. We don't have a great record of turning good talent into great talent. Until Bronco hires some coaches that know how to do that, we'll be a mediocre team.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    March 21, 2014 6:23 a.m.

    cb - is it stars that matter or number of offers? U seem to flip flop whenever it's convenient for you.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    March 21, 2014 7:04 a.m.

    It sounds like BYU has given up on the drop back, pocket passing game.

  • BeSmart Cheyenne, WY
    March 21, 2014 7:36 a.m.

    According to CBs Philosophy
    he is a 3 star quarterback and BYU only gets 1 to 2 stars.
    Same thing happened with Fred Warner last year. He committed early then the Pac came with offers later on.
    Guy will be offered by several pac schools by signing day.

  • sdunn Spanish Fork, UT
    March 21, 2014 8:02 a.m.

    Everyone knows now that BYU is recruiting someone Utah will be offering him a scholarship today!

  • Pendergast Salt Lake City, UT
    March 21, 2014 8:10 a.m.

    re: BeSmart

    Chris B has a point. If a 3 star prospect who lives in P12 country & 3 his best offers were as listed. What does does that really say about the player?

  • JP Chandler, AZ
    March 21, 2014 8:23 a.m.

    @Pendergast
    Chris B might have had a point if he hadn't referenced "BCS schools". There is no BCS.

  • BeSmart Cheyenne, WY
    March 21, 2014 8:35 a.m.

    @ Pendergast
    You have to look at the situation.
    Oregon has offered 55 scholarships already for next year. Not a single 3-star recruit.
    USC has offered 79 with 2-3 star recruits.
    Big name schools do not offer 3 star recruits this early. As high players commit lower ranked players receive high offers
    Utah has offered 82 scholarships and about half are 3 star guys (shows a big difference in quality of programs)
    Fred Warner last year was an early three star commit who had early offers from BYU an New Mexico State, but by the end 7 pac schools had offered him.
    I am not saying this kid is the next Mariota but he will have Pac-12 offers by signing day like most 3 star kids get.

  • Christopher B Ogden, UT
    March 21, 2014 8:48 a.m.

    @be "smart" - Can you back up your claim I've ever said byu only gets 1-2 stars?

    You wouldn't make things up would you?

    Interesting you note Utah and how many offers are 3 stars guys and then leave out byU? Are their numbers ever worse than Utah's if you're saying Utah's show a big difference in quality? Typical byu fan

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    March 21, 2014 9:01 a.m.

    As for the kid himself, well just like all of the rest of you I really don't know anything about him other than what has been written, so just like christina I don't have a clue if he'll be a good player or not, but it is obvious that BYU is looking at a different type of QB these days. They are now recruiting dual threat types.

  • BeSmart Cheyenne, WY
    March 21, 2014 9:15 a.m.

    From Feb 27
    "A good coach can turn a team full of 1-2 stars nobodies into national champions.

    Right?"
    Oct. 10th
    "Some byu fans try to convince themselves that 1-2 star byu kids are just as talented as 4 star Alabama players because stars don't mean anything."
    Want more references?
    CB

  • J. Richardson AMERICAN FORK, UT
    March 21, 2014 9:18 a.m.

    To the Ute fans who will read this article in order to write disparaging things about BYU and/or this 3-star recruit, please realize that the U has never, in the history of football, outrecruited the Y when it comes to quarterbacks. That was true when they were in the same conference and it will continue to be true with BYU as an independant, including this instance with this very fine HS QB.

  • BeSmart Cheyenne, WY
    March 21, 2014 9:23 a.m.

    BYU has made 13 offers and 5 out of the 13 are 4 stars.
    Difference is BYU has a two commits that are 4 stars in one of the recruiting outlets.
    Utah has 3-3 star commits.

  • COS Littleton, CO
    March 21, 2014 9:47 a.m.

    There were more players from Portland State in the last Super Bowl than from the U of U.

  • peacemaker Provo, UT
    March 21, 2014 9:49 a.m.

    Chandler Cox, a 3 star recruit from florida has a recent BYU offer. Checvk him out

  • nhatch82 Eagle Mountain, UT
    March 21, 2014 9:50 a.m.

    its interesting to see so many ute s fans mock a 3 star recruit. have you looked at the utes 2015 commits so far? 1 three star athlete the other three dont even have a star ranking. Byu now has 5 3 star recruits for 2015. maybe you should be a bit more worried about who you are bringing into your prestigious institution?

  • Lew Scannon Provo, UT
    March 21, 2014 9:54 a.m.

    As is often the case, the number of stars means nothing. Look at Jake Heaps. Some kids have the ability to play college ball. Some don't. As I recall, some unwanted kid named Cody Hoffman got an offer from BYU, and look what happened.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    March 21, 2014 10:02 a.m.

    @christina

    The issue here, as always, is your hypocrisy. When a kid that is a 3 star commits to utah you trumpet it as a great pick up no matter who else offered him simply because he has 3 stars. But since this 3 star kid committed to BYU now you want to play the "who else offered him" card. You do realize most of us simply laugh AT you don't you?

  • BlueHusky Mission Viejo, CA
    March 21, 2014 11:08 a.m.

    Silly gaggle of comments from you know who. His usual nonsense. Looks like the kid can play, whether he winds up as a BYU QB or a DB, he looks like a keeper.

    The only insightful comment was that BYU is not recruiting drop back passers any more. Guess what. They don't recruit single wing tailbacks anymore either.

    The offense of today is the pass/run guy. Been coming for years. Who runs the West Coast Offense any more?

  • Eliot Genola, UT
    March 21, 2014 11:58 a.m.

    Decent football player. I hope it works out for him and BYU. I also hope the coaches find some people to block for him.

  • BigCougar Bountiful, UT
    March 21, 2014 12:27 p.m.

    @Pendergast
    "Chris B has a point. If a 3 star prospect who lives in P12 country & 3 his best offers were as listed. What does does that really say about the player?"

    It says that with another year to go and several summer football camps yet to attend, it's early still and he is being waited on by other schools. Good examples from others in this board referencing Fred Warner. USC pulled out all the stops late trying to steal him from BYU (but failed).

    It's been Bronco's philosophy that if he likes a kid and feels the kid would be successful in the culture at BYU then he offers him and doesn't play the waiting game. He also likes to take chances on under the radar kids who don't get a lot of offers.

    Cody Hoffman was a good example. His two offers were BYU and Sacramento St (iirc). Now he's leaving BYU as one of it's all-time bests and is looking at a likely NFL career.

  • Scores Idaho Falls, ID
    March 21, 2014 1:03 p.m.

    Depending on how this summer and next season goes, this kid could very likely rise up to a 4-Star. I have family that live out in that area and the talk is...this kid is the real deal! With all the other recruits coming in and returning missionaries already arriving, it looks more and more like a special season ahead for the BYU Cougars. I already know where u'll be. 4-5, 3-6, 2-7, next is 1-8?

  • Pendergast Salt Lake City, UT
    March 21, 2014 2:11 p.m.

    to Big Cougar

    Well. Rise & Shout! If Hoffman has 1/2 the career Derrick Shelby has had (so far) that will be something indeed.

  • 54-10 Salt Lake City, UT
    March 21, 2014 2:14 p.m.

    Good luck to the kid.

    He's gonna enjoy BYU academics.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    March 21, 2014 2:22 p.m.

    Looks like a good player. Don't really care what the U peanut gallery has to say...they will see him first hand just like us in a couple years and we will see just how good he is then.

    Just a quick lesson in recruiting for those that have no clue...we won't mention any names. Most players don't get offers as early on as BYU offers them. Bronco has always been about early commitments. This guy will get more offers as his recruiting progresses.

  • Christy B Salt Lake City, Utah
    March 21, 2014 4:47 p.m.

    Duckhunter

    Didn't you know that per the crimson bubble star adjustment scale, every Utah is stars +3 and every BYU recruit is stars -3?

  • MyPerspective Salt Lake City, UT
    March 21, 2014 4:48 p.m.

    Cougsndawgs
    West Point , UT

    "Most players don't get offers as early on as BYU offers them. Bronco has always been about early commitments."

    What in the world are you talking about? Go look at the recruiting services and take note of all the teams that already have commitments. What it Mendenhall doing that is so special?

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    March 21, 2014 6:20 p.m.

    MP:
    Go look at the 3 star recruits on the scouting/recruiting sites. Many of them have interest from various schools but very few have actual scholarship offers at this point. 2015 is actually a low number of offers for Bronco from what he typically has. He usually has more commitments by now so this year may be an anomaly in that regard. The point is most 3 star players don't have a lot of scholarship offers yet...it filters through 5 star, 4 star, and then eventually offering 3 star players as the numbers become more clear. That's what CB doesn't seem to understand. I guarantee this kid will have more power conference offers before his recruiting process is over.

  • 4601 Salt Lake City, UT
    March 21, 2014 8:45 p.m.

    Really convenient, the kid's future has already been decided by "stars" and trolls. He won't even have to play college ball. I wonder what the star count is between Mercer and Duke.

  • Wayne Rout El Paso, TX
    March 21, 2014 9:07 p.m.

    I hope I am wrong, but he sounds a lot like another quarterback that can run but can't throw. We know by now this does not work, but it looks like we'll going that way.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    March 21, 2014 9:33 p.m.

    WR:
    His arm looked pretty good in the video. Yes some mechanics need to be honed but that's not unusual for a young player. His speed and athleticism jump out as you watch him though so I think his upside can't be ignored.

  • cork Murray, UT
    March 22, 2014 9:49 a.m.

    Mangum will not be coming to BYU. The direction of the coaching is not back to the passing attack of the past but to three yards and a cloud of dust made famous at Nebraska. If you like dust, be my guest. I buy tickets to watch a wide open passing attack. With the dearth of decent games and this new announcement, the school just bought back my tickets. Doesn't interest me anymore.

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    March 24, 2014 10:07 a.m.

    RE: MyPerspective

    "What in the world are you talking about? Go look at the recruiting services and take note of all the teams that already have commitments. What it Mendenhall doing that is so special?"

    I went ahead and looked it up for you... Here is a list of all the 2015 commits to PAC12 teams so far (I know PAC12 affiliation is the most important thing for you which is why I chose that conference for the sample).

    AZ - 1 commitment (3 star)
    ASU - 2 commitments (both 3 star)
    CU - 1 commitment (3 star)
    Oregon - 1 commitment (3 star)
    OSU - 1 commitment (NR)
    Stanford - 2 commitments (both 4 stars)
    UCLA - 5 commitments (two 5 star, one 4, two 3)
    USC - 3 commitments (one 5, one 4, one 3)
    Utah - 4 commitments (all NR)
    UW - 2 commitments (one 4, one 3)
    WSU - 1 commitment (4 star)

    BYU - 4 commitments (one 4, three 3)

    And thus we see that only one team in the conference has more early commitments than BYU. AND as Cougsndawgs mentioned this is a down year for early commitments (although the four that we have look pretty solid). You're welcome.