I'll bet Mayor Love can't wait to defund both Obamacare amd Medicare.
I like Mia Love. She is living the American dream. I also like the fact
that she won't let the democratic establishment put her in a box.
I am so excited that she decided to run again. I voted for her last time and
will again this time. She is a great example of how to never give up and to
fight for what you believe in.
Re: "Owens, who calls himself 'a Democrat without labels . . .
.'"Seems like representing oneself as a "Democrat
without labels" amounts to affixing a label.Doug's father
was a died-in-the-wool liberal, who embraced every liberal cause from surrender
in Vietnam, to radical environmentalism, to RFK's presidential aspirations,
to promoting Ted Kennedy, post-Chappaquiddick, to a Mideast policy that favored
abandonment of Israel to appease barbaric Palestinians.Doug
suggesting he's a "Democrat without labels" seems like a pretty
transparent attempt to distance himself from his Dad's failed policies and
positions, without repudiating any of their radical liberal roots.I
suspect real Utahns, however, are not as dumb as he hopes we are.
Owens is a Democrat--that is a label, and his "ideas" are standard old
Democratic failures. The guy supports Obamacare--what does that tell you? And
he's jumping on the gender bias boat? Please, Mia Love represents Utah
values, not this lefty retread.
Owens is trying the same ploy Matheson did. That is to try to pretend that he
is really a conservative and he's just sort of a pretend Democrat but party
labels really don't matter. I see no reason to send another
Owens to Washington to do everything he can to undermine the rest of the
delegation the way his Dad did.
"Play by the Rules," you would be well to speak up with facts, not
innuendo. Doug Owens is a man of intelligence, compassion, vision and
integrity. That, my friend, is a fact.
Marxist, I can't wait until she does.
There's a lot of Love for... well... Love.Not sure why?
I'm sure she's a nice person, but from what I've seen, not a very
viable candidate for a job of this magnitude. I'm sure she'll win via
the Republican party label, and I'm sure she'll be praised in the end
for doing a great job. So, whether she actually does or doesn't is
irrelevant I guess. re: lovelydeseret: don't you mean
"Republican establishment"? She's was their minority female
candidate last time and failed to win in a Presidential election cycle with Mitt
Romney on the ticket. It's the Rep. Estab. that's questioning the
second try (putting her in a box) ... not the Dem's. The Dem's know
they'll have an uphill battle regardless of who the Rep. is. This is Utah!
@golongWhat exactly are "Utah values?"
One of the big problems with being a Democrat is always having to defend a
person's actions. Jim Matheson has continually had to stand in the middle.
It is like getting a C on your report card, poorest of the best and best of the
poorest which makes it tough to take a stand. However, even after saying that,
look at the record of how many years a Democrat has held the position with a
majority rule of Republicans. Mia may be the best candidate but don't
forget the lesson of Karl Snow taught by Bill Orton.
Matheson had the advantage of being the son of a governor who was mostly loved
by the people. Owens is the son of a congressman mostly not loved by the
people. Had the republican establishment supported Dave Monson in 1987 instead
of casting him aside, Wayne Owens would have never been re-elected to congress.
If Love, a Tea Party candidate, wants to fix the dysfunction in Washington, how
is she going to do it? It is the Tea Party element that has exacerbated the
dysfunction. It seems to me that she will contribute to the mess, not fix it.
We've been waiting a long time for Love to outline a solution to the
stalemates in Congress. We're still waiting. And we'll be waiting on
election day.And, Heaven forbid, we'll still be waiting long
after she has been elected -- if she is.
I am glad Mia is running again. She will represent Utah well. A sad fact about
liberals and democrats is being proven again by their response to Mia's
candidacy: they can't stand it when a woman is conservative, and they
can't stand it when a black person is conservative. "How dare they
think for themselves instead of put themselves in the unthinking box we prepared
for them?" they think (although possibly not consciously). Since Mia is an
intelligent and successful black woman who is conservative, they absolutely
cannot stand her at all, and so it come as no surprise that they will do all
they can to smear her and hurt her campaign (even if they must resort to lies
and half-truths as Matheson's campaign and his supporters did last
election). Go Mia! I will be voting for you and supporting you in your campaign!
Nothing of worth will happen in Washington until the gavel is yanked out of the
miserly fist of that reprobate Harry Reid. A vote for any Republican is a vote
for a return to sanity.
to marxist & FlashbackOh, goody? Mike Lee, Ted Cruz, & Rand
Paul have found another brave soul for their Quixotic adventure.
We already have two senators and three representatives who speak for the far
right extremes of Utah politcs. We need someone to speak for the interests of
everyone else -- the mainstream moderates (and, yes, also for those who are left
of center -- they deserve to be represented too). Matheson was the only
representative who spoke for people who were not on the far right fringes. if
Mia Love wins, those of us who are not far right fringe-dwellers will have
nobody to represent our interests. It is in the best interests of Utah to have
ALL her residents represented. Mia Love is not someone who would do that. We
need a GOOD represesntative, not Mia Love.
to CatsLabels are okay as long they are ones you get to put on
and/or believe in?Insert sarcastic observation about Utah &
(political) diversity here?
Is it already 2016?Mia will be unbeatable, she has access to the
deep pockets of her party and that is the fact it is not she has a brilliant
business plan, nor that she is a woman it is now down to money and who can be
bought. Just ask Orrin Hatch who amassed a 12 million dollar
election fund to win his $225,000 annual job and when you ask where the money
came from he is quick to answer concerned citizens. However less than 1 million
came from Utah, but the other concerened citizens happened to be large
healthcare insurance agencies and military supply companies. They are concerned
citizens but mostly concerned for themselves or that the country continues to
spend huge amounts of oney on insurance and weapons.Mia when your
first election is bought and paid for it is hard to gain any integrity back
Furry 1993....for you five libs who need your own representative.....Move to
Detroit, we don't want Utah to follow that path?
Owens is a man of principle and integrity? Then if he is a liberal Democrat
like his dad, then why doesn't he own it like a real man? All this
political sidestepping is nothing more than lies and deceit. Lets hope when
starts his campaign "walking for Utah" he heads up I-80 to Evanston and
@Flashback "Marxist, I can't wait until she does [repeal
Medicare]." You will get open rebellion. Mayor Love likely doesn't
like to talk about this stuff bluntly, but she needs to be pinned down.
Why is it the second (or third) generation who can't break out and
accomplish something on their own, fall back on daddy's accomplishments,
success and use his NAME and fame to promote themselves? Come on Owens, do
something for yourself… at least professional athletes following their
daddies have to prove they too can make it… it isn't based solely on
the name.. We haven't even heard of Doug until now… Mia has done it
on her own, so who should we trust can get the job done, Doug, through his daddy
or Mia through the people and her hard work?
I'm conservative and usually vote Republican. Doug Owens is a man of
intelligence and integrity and he has my vote.
@TRUTHSo that's your solution for anyone who doesn't toe
the conservative "Utah values' line - MOVE. Really? Can I
use that when you complain about the President, Congress, or judicial ruling you
don't like. Just move somewhere else.
One of the most heartening movements on the American political scene is the No
Labels/Problem Solvers movement co-chaired by Jon Huntsman and Democratic
Senator Joe Manchin of West Virginia. It seeks to define goals that have broad
support across the political spectrum, and to build a broad consensus on means
for achieving the goals, without regard to party or ideological labels, thereby
overcoming the strident polarization that has bee characteristic of American
politics for some time now. That Mr. Owens (like my Republican
congressman from Bucks County, PA) has embraced that movement is heartening.
May Utahans have the wisdom to send him to Washington.
I guess a man "of intelligence, compassion, vision and integrity" needs
to shield his identity by saying he is "a Democrat without labels,".
The fact is a Democrat represents empowering people like Pelosi and Obama.
@Furry1993Representative Government is NOT about representing
minority voices - you logic would suggest we should have every fringe interest
represented. Utah does not vote for Democrat because Democrats don't
represent Utah values.
9:52 a.m. March 18, 2014Like (1) Report abuseDcwatcher1Btfl, UTWhy is it the second (or third)
generation who can't break out and accomplish something on their own, fall
back on daddy's accomplishments, success and use his NAME and fame to
promote themselves? Come on Owens, do something for yourself… at least
professional athletes following their daddies have to prove they too can make
it… it isn't based solely on the name.. We haven't even heard of
Doug until now… Mia has done it on her own, so who should we trust can get
the job done, Doug, through his daddy or Mia through the people and her hard
work?----------I sure hope you didn't vote for Mitt
Romney - or you might be accused of being a hypocrite...
@RufioI asked this question before, but no one has answered it.
What exactly are "Utah values?" Those of us who don't deserve to
have our voices heard would like to know.
@kiddsport apparently you don't understand the difference between the House
and the Senate. Voting for Mia Love does not make any difference at all to Harry
Reid. I want the Dems to lose control of the Senate just as much as you, do but
electing extremists to the House doesn't help with that.I'm still waiting for Mia Love to come clean about her little amnesia
incident- the one where she claimed she never told reporters esp. Lee Benson
what she told them about her past, and claimed it was all a Matheson conspiracy.
Re: ". . . repeal Medicare]. You will get open rebellion."Actually, open rebellion is what we have now. The President and his gang are
in open rebellion against the Constitution, their oaths of office, and American
rule of law. The President's admitted refusals to enforce the law --
including his "legacy" health care debacle -- is an open admission of
his rebellion. He has "a pen and a phone," so what need does he have of
a Constitution?The inevitable repeal of nearly all of Obamacare is
what is necessary to end this regime's open rebellion.
I am unaware of the alleged accomplishments of said Mr. Owens, other than a stay
at home dad while mom finished medical school, and successfully passing the bar
exam. So his dad was as congressman, so were a lot of people's dads, and
moms.From the article it appears that Mr. Owens is an out of work
attorney looking for a job with benefits. I didn't vote for
dad, have heard, so far, nothing remarkable or of note about the son, so as it
plays now, I don't think I'll vote for the son. Maybe he
can get someone to highlight his accomplishment in the government arena, or how
he is capable to represent his district. I am presuming he does live in the
district he is announcing for.
Why is it that the states run by liberals are falling apart and the states run
by conservatives are dong very well? Do you think there could be any
I think that all of the liberals who say that they don't like Mia Love are
racists. There can't be any other reason why they wouldn't like a
canidate from a minority in Utah.
Doug Owens and Mia Love want to represent the voters:Each of you are not
in this race to make money right?Someone get this little survey to them to
sign exactly what they believe is true.I am a public official under
oath and must have an opinion about the use of money or promises to influence
any public official in the discharge of his or her public or legal duties.I agree that corporate political contributions are not lawful and violate
state and federal bribery statutes because of "corporate mission laws"
that protect share holders funds from fraud/embezzlement; funds must be spent
on profit, potential profit or humanitarian expenditures only. So intent cannot
be freedom of speech but seeking influence for profit.Name(print) Sign
date If you believe that corporate contributions are lawful: Sign down
here instead:Name(print) Sign dateBRIBERY: The offering,
giving, receiving, or soliciting of something of value for the purpose of
influencing the action of an official in the discharge of his or her public or
legal duties. unlawful by constitutional Equality Under All Laws..
@ Utah Businessman, surely you jest. Have you seen the numbers on a whole range
of issues in the South? We really don't want to be like that. Seems like
CA, OR and WA are doing great. MD, NY, CT, MA are doing great. In fact,
overall, the country is now doing better than it was than during the last
administration. So, you can spout rhetoric, but reality says otherwise.
Utah appears to prefer male candidates. Mia Love and Becky Lockhart
don't fit the bill.Todays's comments are 200+ favoring men in
Priesthood position of the LDS Church.We are in Utah, people!
@Strider:Doug Owens is not an out-of-work attorney. He took a leave
of absence from his law firm, Holland & Hart, to run for Congress. You
didn't vote for his father, you don't want to vote for him. I respect
that. But do you really think disparaging Mr. Owens is honorable?
@EsquireNY doing great? Last I checked facts, NY was losing
residents, losing business, and scrambling. In fact one report says: "New
York has 16 percent more unemployed residents than it did in 2008 — up
from 574,900 to 665,200". Do you really want to compare?
What makes a child (Doug Owens, Jim Matheson, Scott Matheson, Jr.) of a former
politician automatically qualified to be good representative of the people.
This appears to me to be another attempt to make this a name recognition race
and avoid the issues by the democrats. The “Count My Vote”
organization was pushing the same agenda, who’s name do we know, who has
the money to buy the ads to get elected, not to determine what would be best my
country, state, county or me and my family. Will those who do not vote for Ms.
Love be accused to racism or sexism? Will Mr. Owens talk about issues or just
why he is a good guy?
to: Lane MyerHad more voted for Mitt we wouldn't be laughed at and
made a joke of around the world. I have more respect for Puttin, he isn't
afraid of his shadow, had his ambassador been killed along with 3 others, Puttin
might have went in himself and hunted down the killers. Obama doesn't
understand the soldiers creed – I will never leave a fallen comrade to
fall into the hands of the enemy… Obama is too busy golfing to worry about
a "few good men", he's like most conscientious objectors, just
didn't defect to Canada.
To "Esquire" how can you say that we are doing better than during the
las administration? The last administration averaged 5.2%. Right now the
unemployment rate is still at 6.7%. The better test is the labor participation
rate. That is a measure of the number of working age people that are actually
working. Under Bush we had a 66.2% average labor participation rate. Under
Obama we have had a 64.2%.You can also look at the GDP. The US GDP
has not been growing as fast as inflation since Obama took office.Bush averaged about $400 billion deficits. So far Obama has averaged over $1
Trillion deficits.What economic indicator is actually showing that
Obama is doing better economically better than any president since Carter?
@ Utah Businessman -- Sure, if you want to start a business that offers minimum
wage jobs, red states are the place to be. Lots of cheap labor. Most of the
large corporations with better paying jobs are based in blue states where
education is typically better and educated people want to live. You think
California is bad? Tell that to the tech industry. You think New York is bad,
tell that to the banking industry. The number of jobs a state is adding is
important, but more important is the quality of the new jobs being created.
Blue states will win over red states almost all the time, particularly if the
red state is run by the more nutty element of the right wing (disbelief in
science, dismantling of public schools, etc.)
@ProdicusYou are absolutely right. Mia's backstory is a real
problem for me.If she had a problem with Benson's story she should
have corrected him right after it ran. Instead she waits a year and then says he
got it wrong.That's not leadership; that's just old fashioned
political nonsense.Sorry Mia, you failed the integrity test. I wish
you'd leave the spot open for someone else to run.But, based on the
comments here, she will probably win now that Matheson is out of the way.
The Morning Edition email blast has a side by side photo of the two candidates.
It sure blows up a lot of stereo-types that the white male is a liberal Democrat
and the black female is a conservative Republican. What on earth will Chris
Matthews do with himself now? This is going to be fun.
Hey Marxist, your hero Obama and company is doing a wonderful job of ignoring
Samwise-if Matheson's charges were lies/half-truths, why did Mia Love never
directly deny or address them? She could have easily won had she spoken up. Her
silence spoke volumes, and it will again if we are stupid enough to put her
through. Her opponent will not give her a pass on the charges of the past. The
biggest thing we need in Washington is integrity.