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Doug Owens, Mia Love file candidacies for 4th Congressional seat

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  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    March 17, 2014 9:00 p.m.

    I'll bet Mayor Love can't wait to defund both Obamacare amd Medicare.

  • LovelyDeseret Gilbert, AZ
    March 17, 2014 10:32 p.m.

    I like Mia Love. She is living the American dream.
    I also like the fact that she won't let the democratic establishment put her in a box.

  • Grammy3 SOUTH JORDAN, UT
    March 18, 2014 1:20 a.m.

    I am so excited that she decided to run again. I voted for her last time and will again this time. She is a great example of how to never give up and to fight for what you believe in.

  • procuradorfiscal Tooele, UT
    March 18, 2014 2:06 a.m.

    Re: "Owens, who calls himself 'a Democrat without labels . . . .'"

    Seems like representing oneself as a "Democrat without labels" amounts to affixing a label.

    Doug's father was a died-in-the-wool liberal, who embraced every liberal cause from surrender in Vietnam, to radical environmentalism, to RFK's presidential aspirations, to promoting Ted Kennedy, post-Chappaquiddick, to a Mideast policy that favored abandonment of Israel to appease barbaric Palestinians.

    Doug suggesting he's a "Democrat without labels" seems like a pretty transparent attempt to distance himself from his Dad's failed policies and positions, without repudiating any of their radical liberal roots.

    I suspect real Utahns, however, are not as dumb as he hopes we are.

  • golong Washington, UT
    March 18, 2014 5:59 a.m.

    Owens is a Democrat--that is a label, and his "ideas" are standard old Democratic failures. The guy supports Obamacare--what does that tell you? And he's jumping on the gender bias boat? Please, Mia Love represents Utah values, not this lefty retread.

  • Cats Somewhere in Time, UT
    March 18, 2014 7:03 a.m.

    Owens is trying the same ploy Matheson did. That is to try to pretend that he is really a conservative and he's just sort of a pretend Democrat but party labels really don't matter.

    I see no reason to send another Owens to Washington to do everything he can to undermine the rest of the delegation the way his Dad did.

  • it's fit to print PROVO, UT
    March 18, 2014 7:17 a.m.

    "Play by the Rules," you would be well to speak up with facts, not innuendo. Doug Owens is a man of intelligence, compassion, vision and integrity. That, my friend, is a fact.

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    March 18, 2014 7:18 a.m.

    Marxist, I can't wait until she does.

  • Bored to the point of THIS! Ogden, UT
    March 18, 2014 7:23 a.m.

    There's a lot of Love for... well... Love.

    Not sure why? I'm sure she's a nice person, but from what I've seen, not a very viable candidate for a job of this magnitude. I'm sure she'll win via the Republican party label, and I'm sure she'll be praised in the end for doing a great job. So, whether she actually does or doesn't is irrelevant I guess.

    re: lovelydeseret: don't you mean "Republican establishment"? She's was their minority female candidate last time and failed to win in a Presidential election cycle with Mitt Romney on the ticket. It's the Rep. Estab. that's questioning the second try (putting her in a box) ... not the Dem's. The Dem's know they'll have an uphill battle regardless of who the Rep. is. This is Utah!

  • CHS 85 Sandy, UT
    March 18, 2014 7:32 a.m.

    @golong

    What exactly are "Utah values?"

  • Lolly Lehi, UT
    March 18, 2014 7:43 a.m.

    One of the big problems with being a Democrat is always having to defend a person's actions. Jim Matheson has continually had to stand in the middle. It is like getting a C on your report card, poorest of the best and best of the poorest which makes it tough to take a stand. However, even after saying that, look at the record of how many years a Democrat has held the position with a majority rule of Republicans. Mia may be the best candidate but don't forget the lesson of Karl Snow taught by Bill Orton.

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    March 18, 2014 7:50 a.m.

    Matheson had the advantage of being the son of a governor who was mostly loved by the people. Owens is the son of a congressman mostly not loved by the people. Had the republican establishment supported Dave Monson in 1987 instead of casting him aside, Wayne Owens would have never been re-elected to congress.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    March 18, 2014 8:11 a.m.

    If Love, a Tea Party candidate, wants to fix the dysfunction in Washington, how is she going to do it? It is the Tea Party element that has exacerbated the dysfunction. It seems to me that she will contribute to the mess, not fix it.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    March 18, 2014 8:32 a.m.

    We've been waiting a long time for Love to outline a solution to the stalemates in Congress. We're still waiting. And we'll be waiting on election day.

    And, Heaven forbid, we'll still be waiting long after she has been elected -- if she is.

  • Samwise Eagle Mountain, UT
    March 18, 2014 9:08 a.m.

    I am glad Mia is running again. She will represent Utah well. A sad fact about liberals and democrats is being proven again by their response to Mia's candidacy: they can't stand it when a woman is conservative, and they can't stand it when a black person is conservative. "How dare they think for themselves instead of put themselves in the unthinking box we prepared for them?" they think (although possibly not consciously). Since Mia is an intelligent and successful black woman who is conservative, they absolutely cannot stand her at all, and so it come as no surprise that they will do all they can to smear her and hurt her campaign (even if they must resort to lies and half-truths as Matheson's campaign and his supporters did last election). Go Mia! I will be voting for you and supporting you in your campaign!

  • kiddsport Fairview, UT
    March 18, 2014 9:11 a.m.

    Nothing of worth will happen in Washington until the gavel is yanked out of the miserly fist of that reprobate Harry Reid. A vote for any Republican is a vote for a return to sanity.

  • Mister J Salt Lake City, UT
    March 18, 2014 9:18 a.m.

    to marxist & Flashback

    Oh, goody? Mike Lee, Ted Cruz, & Rand Paul have found another brave soul for their Quixotic adventure.

  • Furry1993 Ogden, UT
    March 18, 2014 9:23 a.m.

    We already have two senators and three representatives who speak for the far right extremes of Utah politcs. We need someone to speak for the interests of everyone else -- the mainstream moderates (and, yes, also for those who are left of center -- they deserve to be represented too). Matheson was the only representative who spoke for people who were not on the far right fringes. if Mia Love wins, those of us who are not far right fringe-dwellers will have nobody to represent our interests. It is in the best interests of Utah to have ALL her residents represented. Mia Love is not someone who would do that. We need a GOOD represesntative, not Mia Love.

  • Hank Pym SLC, UT
    March 18, 2014 9:24 a.m.

    to Cats

    Labels are okay as long they are ones you get to put on and/or believe in?

    Insert sarcastic observation about Utah & (political) diversity here?

  • Doug10 Roosevelt, UT
    March 18, 2014 9:31 a.m.

    Is it already 2016?

    Mia will be unbeatable, she has access to the deep pockets of her party and that is the fact it is not she has a brilliant business plan, nor that she is a woman it is now down to money and who can be bought.

    Just ask Orrin Hatch who amassed a 12 million dollar election fund to win his $225,000 annual job and when you ask where the money came from he is quick to answer concerned citizens. However less than 1 million came from Utah, but the other concerened citizens happened to be large healthcare insurance agencies and military supply companies. They are concerned citizens but mostly concerned for themselves or that the country continues to spend huge amounts of oney on insurance and weapons.

    Mia when your first election is bought and paid for it is hard to gain any integrity back

  • TRUTH Salt Lake City, UT
    March 18, 2014 9:45 a.m.

    Furry 1993....for you five libs who need your own representative.....Move to Detroit, we don't want Utah to follow that path?

  • TRUTH Salt Lake City, UT
    March 18, 2014 9:49 a.m.

    Owens is a man of principle and integrity? Then if he is a liberal Democrat like his dad, then why doesn't he own it like a real man? All this political sidestepping is nothing more than lies and deceit. Lets hope when starts his campaign "walking for Utah" he heads up I-80 to Evanston and keeps going!

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    March 18, 2014 9:52 a.m.

    @Flashback "Marxist, I can't wait until she does [repeal Medicare]." You will get open rebellion. Mayor Love likely doesn't like to talk about this stuff bluntly, but she needs to be pinned down.

  • Dcwatcher1 Btfl, UT
    March 18, 2014 9:57 a.m.

    Why is it the second (or third) generation who can't break out and accomplish something on their own, fall back on daddy's accomplishments, success and use his NAME and fame to promote themselves? Come on Owens, do something for yourself… at least professional athletes following their daddies have to prove they too can make it… it isn't based solely on the name.. We haven't even heard of Doug until now… Mia has done it on her own, so who should we trust can get the job done, Doug, through his daddy or Mia through the people and her hard work?

  • Sandpiper Air Salt Lake City, UT
    March 18, 2014 10:14 a.m.

    I'm conservative and usually vote Republican. Doug Owens is a man of intelligence and integrity and he has my vote.

  • CHS 85 Sandy, UT
    March 18, 2014 10:23 a.m.

    @TRUTH

    So that's your solution for anyone who doesn't toe the conservative "Utah values' line - MOVE. Really?

    Can I use that when you complain about the President, Congress, or judicial ruling you don't like. Just move somewhere else.

  • Gregory Hill Richboro, PA
    March 18, 2014 10:34 a.m.

    One of the most heartening movements on the American political scene is the No Labels/Problem Solvers movement co-chaired by Jon Huntsman and Democratic Senator Joe Manchin of West Virginia. It seeks to define goals that have broad support across the political spectrum, and to build a broad consensus on means for achieving the goals, without regard to party or ideological labels, thereby overcoming the strident polarization that has bee characteristic of American politics for some time now.

    That Mr. Owens (like my Republican congressman from Bucks County, PA) has embraced that movement is heartening. May Utahans have the wisdom to send him to Washington.

  • Rufio Saratoga, UT
    March 18, 2014 10:50 a.m.

    I guess a man "of intelligence, compassion, vision and integrity" needs to shield his identity by saying he is "a Democrat without labels,". The fact is a Democrat represents empowering people like Pelosi and Obama.

  • Rufio Saratoga, UT
    March 18, 2014 10:56 a.m.

    @Furry1993

    Representative Government is NOT about representing minority voices - you logic would suggest we should have every fringe interest represented. Utah does not vote for Democrat because Democrats don't represent Utah values.

  • Lane Myer Salt Lake City, UT
    March 18, 2014 10:57 a.m.

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    Dcwatcher1

    Btfl, UT

    Why is it the second (or third) generation who can't break out and accomplish something on their own, fall back on daddy's accomplishments, success and use his NAME and fame to promote themselves? Come on Owens, do something for yourself… at least professional athletes following their daddies have to prove they too can make it… it isn't based solely on the name.. We haven't even heard of Doug until now… Mia has done it on her own, so who should we trust can get the job done, Doug, through his daddy or Mia through the people and her hard work?
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    I sure hope you didn't vote for Mitt Romney - or you might be accused of being a hypocrite...

  • CHS 85 Sandy, UT
    March 18, 2014 11:14 a.m.

    @Rufio

    I asked this question before, but no one has answered it. What exactly are "Utah values?" Those of us who don't deserve to have our voices heard would like to know.

  • Prodicus Provo, UT
    March 18, 2014 11:21 a.m.

    @kiddsport apparently you don't understand the difference between the House and the Senate. Voting for Mia Love does not make any difference at all to Harry Reid. I want the Dems to lose control of the Senate just as much as you, do but electing extremists to the House doesn't help with that.

    I'm still waiting for Mia Love to come clean about her little amnesia incident- the one where she claimed she never told reporters esp. Lee Benson what she told them about her past, and claimed it was all a Matheson conspiracy.

  • procuradorfiscal Tooele, UT
    March 18, 2014 11:26 a.m.

    Re: ". . . repeal Medicare]. You will get open rebellion."

    Actually, open rebellion is what we have now. The President and his gang are in open rebellion against the Constitution, their oaths of office, and American rule of law. The President's admitted refusals to enforce the law -- including his "legacy" health care debacle -- is an open admission of his rebellion. He has "a pen and a phone," so what need does he have of a Constitution?

    The inevitable repeal of nearly all of Obamacare is what is necessary to end this regime's open rebellion.

  • Strider303 Salt Lake City, UT
    March 18, 2014 11:29 a.m.

    I am unaware of the alleged accomplishments of said Mr. Owens, other than a stay at home dad while mom finished medical school, and successfully passing the bar exam. So his dad was as congressman, so were a lot of people's dads, and moms.

    From the article it appears that Mr. Owens is an out of work attorney looking for a job with benefits.

    I didn't vote for dad, have heard, so far, nothing remarkable or of note about the son, so as it plays now, I don't think I'll vote for the son.

    Maybe he can get someone to highlight his accomplishment in the government arena, or how he is capable to represent his district. I am presuming he does live in the district he is announcing for.

  • Utah Businessman Sandy, UT
    March 18, 2014 11:35 a.m.

    Why is it that the states run by liberals are falling apart and the states run by conservatives are dong very well? Do you think there could be any connection?

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    March 18, 2014 11:51 a.m.

    I think that all of the liberals who say that they don't like Mia Love are racists. There can't be any other reason why they wouldn't like a canidate from a minority in Utah.

  • brotherJonathan SLC, UT
    March 18, 2014 12:05 p.m.

    Doug Owens and Mia Love want to represent the voters:
    Each of you are not in this race to make money right?
    Someone get this little survey to them to sign exactly what they believe is true.

    I am a public official under oath and must have an opinion about the use of money or promises to influence any public official in the discharge of his or her public or legal duties.
    I agree that corporate political contributions are not lawful and violate state and federal bribery statutes because of "corporate mission laws" that protect share holders funds from fraud/embezzlement; funds must be spent on profit, potential profit or humanitarian expenditures only. So intent cannot be freedom of speech but seeking influence for profit.
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  • Esquire Springville, UT
    March 18, 2014 12:20 p.m.

    @ Utah Businessman, surely you jest. Have you seen the numbers on a whole range of issues in the South? We really don't want to be like that. Seems like CA, OR and WA are doing great. MD, NY, CT, MA are doing great. In fact, overall, the country is now doing better than it was than during the last administration. So, you can spout rhetoric, but reality says otherwise.

  • riverofsun St.George, Utah
    March 18, 2014 12:39 p.m.

    Utah appears to prefer male candidates.
    Mia Love and Becky Lockhart don't fit the bill.
    Todays's comments are 200+ favoring men in Priesthood position of the LDS Church.
    We are in Utah, people!

  • micawber Centerville, UT
    March 18, 2014 12:46 p.m.

    @Strider:

    Doug Owens is not an out-of-work attorney. He took a leave of absence from his law firm, Holland & Hart, to run for Congress. You didn't vote for his father, you don't want to vote for him. I respect that. But do you really think disparaging Mr. Owens is honorable?

  • JJ1094 Saratoga, UT
    March 18, 2014 12:46 p.m.

    @Esquire

    NY doing great? Last I checked facts, NY was losing residents, losing business, and scrambling. In fact one report says: "New York has 16 percent more unemployed residents than it did in 2008 — up from 574,900 to 665,200".

    Do you really want to compare?

  • sharpgwx WOODS CROSS, UT
    March 18, 2014 12:56 p.m.

    What makes a child (Doug Owens, Jim Matheson, Scott Matheson, Jr.) of a former politician automatically qualified to be good representative of the people. This appears to me to be another attempt to make this a name recognition race and avoid the issues by the democrats. The “Count My Vote” organization was pushing the same agenda, who’s name do we know, who has the money to buy the ads to get elected, not to determine what would be best my country, state, county or me and my family. Will those who do not vote for Ms. Love be accused to racism or sexism? Will Mr. Owens talk about issues or just why he is a good guy?

  • Dcwatcher1 Btfl, UT
    March 18, 2014 1:03 p.m.

    to: Lane Myer
    Had more voted for Mitt we wouldn't be laughed at and made a joke of around the world. I have more respect for Puttin, he isn't afraid of his shadow, had his ambassador been killed along with 3 others, Puttin might have went in himself and hunted down the killers. Obama doesn't understand the soldiers creed – I will never leave a fallen comrade to fall into the hands of the enemy… Obama is too busy golfing to worry about a "few good men", he's like most conscientious objectors, just didn't defect to Canada.

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    March 18, 2014 1:32 p.m.

    To "Esquire" how can you say that we are doing better than during the las administration? The last administration averaged 5.2%. Right now the unemployment rate is still at 6.7%. The better test is the labor participation rate. That is a measure of the number of working age people that are actually working. Under Bush we had a 66.2% average labor participation rate. Under Obama we have had a 64.2%.

    You can also look at the GDP. The US GDP has not been growing as fast as inflation since Obama took office.

    Bush averaged about $400 billion deficits. So far Obama has averaged over $1 Trillion deficits.

    What economic indicator is actually showing that Obama is doing better economically better than any president since Carter?

  • Wonder Provo, UT
    March 18, 2014 3:21 p.m.

    @ Utah Businessman -- Sure, if you want to start a business that offers minimum wage jobs, red states are the place to be. Lots of cheap labor. Most of the large corporations with better paying jobs are based in blue states where education is typically better and educated people want to live. You think California is bad? Tell that to the tech industry. You think New York is bad, tell that to the banking industry. The number of jobs a state is adding is important, but more important is the quality of the new jobs being created. Blue states will win over red states almost all the time, particularly if the red state is run by the more nutty element of the right wing (disbelief in science, dismantling of public schools, etc.)

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    March 18, 2014 3:57 p.m.

    @Prodicus

    You are absolutely right. Mia's backstory is a real problem for me.
    If she had a problem with Benson's story she should have corrected him right after it ran. Instead she waits a year and then says he got it wrong.
    That's not leadership; that's just old fashioned political nonsense.
    Sorry Mia, you failed the integrity test. I wish you'd leave the spot open for someone else to run.
    But, based on the comments here, she will probably win now that Matheson is out of the way.

  • Harrison Bergeron Holladay , UT
    March 18, 2014 5:01 p.m.

    The Morning Edition email blast has a side by side photo of the two candidates. It sure blows up a lot of stereo-types that the white male is a liberal Democrat and the black female is a conservative Republican. What on earth will Chris Matthews do with himself now? This is going to be fun.

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    March 19, 2014 8:21 a.m.

    Hey Marxist, your hero Obama and company is doing a wonderful job of ignoring the Constitution.

  • Tami Herriman, UT
    March 21, 2014 1:34 p.m.

    Samwise-if Matheson's charges were lies/half-truths, why did Mia Love never directly deny or address them? She could have easily won had she spoken up. Her silence spoke volumes, and it will again if we are stupid enough to put her through. Her opponent will not give her a pass on the charges of the past. The biggest thing we need in Washington is integrity.