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Utah basketball: Runnin' Utes come up short at Stanford in regular-season finale

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  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    March 8, 2014 1:35 p.m.

    Loveridge disappears in another big game on the road.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    March 8, 2014 1:50 p.m.

    I said we would finish between 4 and 6th in the PAC 12 before the season.

    I was right on with that guess

    And the doubters said we would be 12th.

    Now lets go win the tournament

  • Down under Salt Lake City, UT
    March 8, 2014 2:06 p.m.

    U can't rebound. LOL Stanford has a 15-3 advantage on offensive ebounds.

  • The Anti Chris Salt Lake City, UT
    March 8, 2014 2:16 p.m.

    Well things are back to normal on the hill.

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    March 8, 2014 2:24 p.m.

    another L mark it down

  • But seriously folks! Salt Lake City, UT
    March 8, 2014 2:38 p.m.

    Offensive rebounding kills the utes on the road. They improve their road record to 4-31 in 4 years in the pac 11.1. At least we have UVU and BYU to represent the state.
    Wright lays an egg on national tv.

  • Ute buster Salt Lake City, UT
    March 8, 2014 2:41 p.m.

    Open up cold and finish the same way. NO TOURNEY FOR u. The worst preseason schedule and all at home was their undoing. Someone forgot to tell Chris Hill and CK that half of the conference games are on the road.

  • The Anti Chris Salt Lake City, UT
    March 8, 2014 2:43 p.m.

    Thanks CB for the prediction ...again. Utes lose again on the road.

  • Denver to Portland Portland, OR
    March 8, 2014 2:50 p.m.

    At least BYU can beat Stanford...

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    March 8, 2014 2:52 p.m.

    Utah is now 10-1 when 4 or more players score in double digits.

    Turnovers and 2nd chance points resulted in a lose in a winnable game on the road.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    March 8, 2014 3:00 p.m.

    Just like BYU football, Utah basketball was 28 points from an undefeated season.

  • ImaUteFan West Jordan, UT
    March 8, 2014 3:04 p.m.

    Arrrrrgggghhhhhh! Another blown opportunity to get off a potential game winning shot.

    Gotta give the team props for coming back from 11 down late in the 2nd half but it so disappointing to keep losing games this way.

  • Down under Salt Lake City, UT
    March 8, 2014 3:04 p.m.

    How is this possilbe? CB promised us a u win! LOL again and again.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    March 8, 2014 3:12 p.m.

    SportsFan
    Orem, UT

    Loveridge disappears in another big game on the road.

    -------------

    Yes. But we still have enough depth to compete, not enough depth to win. That's where I think Chapman will come in next year.

  • No playoff for U Salt Lake City, UT
    March 8, 2014 3:14 p.m.

    Chock up another moral victory for the Utes.

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    CB

    Only under the crimson bubble is 8th considered finishing between 4th and 6th.

  • pocyUte Pocatello, ID
    March 8, 2014 3:18 p.m.

    Bummer,

    Let's get ready for the tourney. This team is playing well, and peaking at the right time, so let's hope they can rise to occasion and make a deep run.

  • Ute buster Salt Lake City, UT
    March 8, 2014 3:20 p.m.

    CB,
    U won't even finish 6th. Wrong again. Only teams with a better than .500 conference record will be in the 4-6 spots. U will finiah 8th or 9th. Nice try though.

  • MyPerspective Salt Lake City, UT
    March 8, 2014 4:00 p.m.

    Wow, what a game. Tough to lose these heart breakers but this team will mature from the experience they gained through the season. Next up, the Pac-12 tournament and the Utes are ready to get after it.

    Let's get it done, UTAH!!

  • Balan South Jordan, Utah
    March 8, 2014 4:01 p.m.

    Stanford was horrible - begging the Utes to win this game by missing 7 or 8 free throws down the stretch. The Utes just didn't have what it takes to accept the offering.

  • Al Thepal Salt Lake City, UT
    March 8, 2014 4:04 p.m.

    Utah is currently in 8th place with the result of other Pac 12 games pending, one of which could move them up 1 spot. If Cal loses to Colorado, they will move up to 7th, as Utah has the tie breaker over Cal, having won their only match up. Oregon could also end 9-9 in conference play if they lose to Arizona (which is likely), but Oregon has the tie breaker over Utah, having won the only head-to-head matchup. So the best Utah could finish is 7th, which is not between 4th and 6th place. Close, but not quite. Still better than 12th though, which I didn't predict. I predicted they would finish in the bottom half of the Conference. And I was right. I do think they will win their first game, and earn the right to play the number 1 or 2 seed (depending on if they finish 7th or 8th). I don't think that 2nd round game will go so well for them though.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    March 8, 2014 4:08 p.m.

    @But seriously folks!

    Wright lays an egg on national tv?

    Wright: 12 Pts, 8 Reb, 6 Ast, 2 Stl

    He was the top performer in the game. Take your time to come up with something new.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    March 8, 2014 4:11 p.m.

    Another winnable games gets away. Stanford isn't that good either. Utah lost this game on the defensive boards. They couldn't box out Stanford. Hopefully they will represent in the PAC 12 tourney. I'm still ok woth this team and this season. The NIT isn't the worst thing in the world considering.

    Go Utes!

  • Jimmytheliberal Salt Lake City, UT
    March 8, 2014 4:25 p.m.

    @Ute Buster...Absolutely incorrect like 99.99% of your posts. The Utes can be #6 in The PAC 12 Tourney. Could you imagine their record if they played in a mid major conference such as The WCC rather a prestigious power conference such as The PAC 12. Yes. YBU beat Stanford earlier this season I'm aware and just look how excited yourself and the rest of you YBU fans still are about it. You see my friend The Utes play games like your Stanford game weekly. The Utes having to beat L.M.U. Portland, Pepperdine, San Diego, St. Mary's or Gonzaga all played in glorified high school gymnasiums to receive an automatic NCAA berth. Please my friend.

  • Jimmytheliberal Salt Lake City, UT
    March 8, 2014 4:27 p.m.

    @Chris B...Once again please stop with the absolute ridiculous predictions. When will you learn? Zip it until the game is over!

  • pocyUte Pocatello, ID
    March 8, 2014 5:17 p.m.

    Downunder

    did Utah hit 20 wins?

  • Chris B's momma Idaho Falls, ID
    March 8, 2014 5:38 p.m.

    Read it here u will be one and done in PAC tournament as there won't be any high schools playing. Oh and didn't they schedule outside of slc? What a bummer

  • pocyUte Pocatello, ID
    March 8, 2014 5:42 p.m.

    Downunder

    I believe you said that there was no way that Utah would get 20 wins, and yet they did. You are well versed in incorrect predictions.

  • BornUte St George, UT
    March 8, 2014 5:42 p.m.

    Tough loss again. I try not to pop off too much when we loose by 17 (BYU). Loveridge really has gone missing. I'm amazed how competitive Utes are again w/o Loveridge and Wright showing up. Great job coaching staff. This Ute finds better things to relish than tough BYU losses. Go Utes!

  • CougarSunDevil Phoenix, AZ
    March 8, 2014 5:47 p.m.

    Utah gave Stanford everything they could handle. Good luck in your tournament. If you play ASU, you'll understand that I hope you lose. Otherwise, good luck.

    Of course if you do play ASU, you probably won't need luck since ASU has stunk over the last four games.

  • TanMan_101 West Jordan, UT
    March 8, 2014 6:21 p.m.

    How sad are these Cougar fans who can't find anything better to do than comment on Utah articles that mean absolutely nothing to them? I guess then all I have to say is Scoreboard Cougs.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    March 8, 2014 6:37 p.m.

    Stanford is probably the caliber of St. Marys.

    Utes have shown improvement.

  • Down under Salt Lake City, UT
    March 8, 2014 6:38 p.m.

    Utelogy,
    bes players in the state win games on the road. Collingsworth doubled wright in points and rebounds. 12 points from your best player is a big goose egg no matter how you look at it.
    Pocy, utah would not have made it to 20 wins without the 350th occ schedule. 9 of their wins were against elementary and Jr. high teams. BYU was the only credible win in the first 10 so don't get to high on yourself. The NCAA will reward u with some extra off-season relaxation on the sofa watching BYU and UVU in the NCAA's. How does it feel to be the 4th best program in the state?

  • Cletus from Coalville Coalville, UT
    March 8, 2014 6:43 p.m.

    We will still be going dancing because we are darn good and we are planning on thee same.

    Onward and upward to pac 12 and march madness glory after we win the tornement!

    Go Utes!

  • Down under Salt Lake City, UT
    March 8, 2014 6:54 p.m.

    Watching the pac games today I can honestly say that the pac is definately NOT the conference they think they are. They are middle of the pack at best and maybe 5th or 6th best conference in the ncaa.

  • Ute buster Salt Lake City, UT
    March 8, 2014 6:58 p.m.

    Utes finish 8th in an average conference. The pac is way overrated. They will not get any love from the ncaa selction committee due their stellar occ scheduling.

  • Joe Schmoe Orem, UT
    March 8, 2014 7:17 p.m.

    I don't really care either way about the utes. I just come on here to see what kind of crazy prediction CB has made for the game. Pure entertainment

    4-6 in the Pac 12?

    LOL!

  • UtesBy5 Syracuse, UT
    March 8, 2014 7:39 p.m.

    Looking at all the comments, once again our sad little brothers from Utah County account for the majority of the posts. I understand, you were left behind and this is how you deal with it.

    If byu played in the PAC-12, they would have battled USC and WSU for the bottom of the conference. Fortunately for the cougars, they play in the WCC and only played against five major conference opponent this season. While there are no long, athletic teams in the WCC, if the cougars get into the big dance, they will surely run into athletic teams that play defense and the results will probably be like the game in SLC.

    Ute buster says the PAC-12 is "way overrated" yet the 8th place team destroyed his favorite WCC team. I'm still confused why so many cougar fans/anti Utah fans continue to post on Utah articles while our MWC team and Big Sky teams don't. Being left behind must really hurt.

    Go Utes!

  • BornUte St George, UT
    March 8, 2014 7:43 p.m.

    Ute buster should forced to drop Ute from his name and pick up some more Cougarish. Once again I myself would have loved nothing more than to see BYU in the PAC 12. Being LDS myself, the seemingly negative attitude towards BYU from the conference frustrates me. BYU 's overall sports program has so much to offer. However, this bagging on the Utes who have had a rough go for the past number of years in a year with so many great accomplishments, is childish. Letting your frustration in having no conference shown by your ignorant comments about the PAC 12 is pathetic. BYU is having a decent season, why can't you focus on that? Just let it go... I'm sure you're going to find a good home in time.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    March 8, 2014 8:07 p.m.

    @Down under

    Utelogy,
    bes players in the state win games on the road. Collingsworth doubled wright in points and rebounds. 12 points from your best player is a big goose egg no matter how you look at it.

    -------------

    Wright accounted for about 40% of Utah's offense today against a tournament team on the road.

    Collingsworth accounted for 31% of BYU's offense today against one of the worst teams in the West at a neutral floor.

    Best players in the state end up in the NBA. We'll see which player is in the NBA and which player ends up in Europe.

  • UPAC12 Colorado Springs , CO
    March 8, 2014 8:16 p.m.

    BYU plays in the WCC Utah plays in the PAC-12 that is all that really needs to be said. Utah would dominate the WCC...again Utah plays in the PAC-12 BYU in the WCC that is the end of conversation.

    Go Utes :)

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    March 8, 2014 8:19 p.m.

    The PAC 12 is ranked 4th per the sagarin rankings. It appears that some of the haters struggle with what makes a good conference.

  • TanMan_101 West Jordan, UT
    March 8, 2014 8:25 p.m.

    Somehow we beat BYU and we are still the 4th best team in the state. Hmm. Interesting logic.

  • Old But Not Stupid Moorpark, CA
    March 8, 2014 8:37 p.m.

    "Now lets go win the tournament." Based on what?

    Today the U looked and played like the LMU Lions, except the real Lions rebounded better.

    Let's run it down:

    BYU beats Stanford at Stanford. Utes not so close in losing to Stanford at Stanford. Stanford appeared to try and give the game away! You'll remember that the Trees missed 5 of 6 (or was it 7 of 8) free throws in the final three minutes).

    Cal and Oregon won so just how is it that the Utes will be in the mix for a 4th or 6th seeding of the tourney?

    As a Californian (and Bruin), I don't think the Utes helped themselves in the "best team in Utah" argument.

  • ExecutorIoh West Jordan, UT
    March 8, 2014 9:16 p.m.

    The bracket is set except for #11 and #12 seeds according to the Pac12 website. Top four seeds all have byes in the first round.

    Utah (#8) faces Washington (#9) in the first round for the honor of facing Arizona (#1) in the second round. Game will be at 1pm MDT on 3/12 on the P12N.

  • FACTchequer Salt Lake City, UT
    March 8, 2014 9:33 p.m.

    pocyUte

    "did Utah hit 20 wins?"

    Not without counting "wins" versus high school teams Evergreen State and St. Katherine's.

    8 of Utah's 20 wins came versus teams ranked #250+ (bottom 100) or non-D-1 teams

    Versus D-1:

    #31 BYU 21-10, #22 SOS, 7-6 versus RPI top 100
    #72 Utah 18-10, #119 SOS, 6-9 versus RPI top 100

  • CougarSunDevil Phoenix, AZ
    March 8, 2014 9:33 p.m.

    Utah get Washington in the opening round, then, if they win, Arizona. I think Utah is done NLT the second round. Good season this year. Something to build on.

  • pocyUte Pocatello, ID
    March 8, 2014 9:57 p.m.

    Downy

    Just admit it, your claims are all they are cracked up to be.

    17 points put BYU somewhat lower than 4. My guess is BYU will be watching Utah make a deep run into the NIT after Rose and Co. make their usual 1 and done, if they even make the Big Dance.

    Go Utes!!

  • Down under Salt Lake City, UT
    March 8, 2014 10:17 p.m.

    UPAC12,
    Utah would dominate the WCC? Really? BYU has dominated u for the last 10 years and took down Stanford, something that u could not do. And you think you would dominate Gonzaga? Please define the meaning of dominate. Maybe it is a 4-31 conference road record. I get it now.

  • Down under Salt Lake City, UT
    March 8, 2014 10:25 p.m.

    To all u fans: News break......one win against BYU does not make u the the best team in the state. Using that logic then Oregon would be the best team in the pac since they beat Arizona today.
    Interesting logic!!

    Spokane Ute,
    But CB told us that the pac is 2nd best just last week. If such were rtue then the conference is dropping quickly in stature. FYI, There is only one pac team in the top 25 and they lost today to an unranked team

  • pocyUte Pocatello, ID
    March 8, 2014 11:07 p.m.

    Down

    Your claim that the Pac is 5th or 6th at best is about as accurate as your claim that Utah would hit 20 wins.

  • No playoff for U Salt Lake City, UT
    March 8, 2014 11:39 p.m.

    CB

    "I said we would finish between 4 and 6th in the PAC 12 before the season..."

    And, as usual, you were wrong... the Utes finished tied with Washington for 8th, only one game ahead of 10th place Oregon St.

  • phoenix Gilbert, AZ
    March 9, 2014 12:08 a.m.

    pocyUte

    "My guess is BYU will be watching Utah make a deep run into the NIT after Rose and Co. make their usual 1 and done, if they even make the Big Dance."

    So what you're really saying is BYU's run to the NIT semi finals last season was more impressive than being invited to the NCAA?

    btw, unlike Utah, which hasn't won a single NCAA tournament game in almost a decade, BYU hasn't been one and done in the tournament since 2009, the one and only season the Utes even made the tournament during the Dave Rose era, before the Utes got embarrassed in their 1st round game.

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    March 9, 2014 3:44 a.m.

    playing 500 ball in conference is a big improvement from recent years, but the final possession of close losses (closing seconds) in a handful of games, coupled with the overtime defeats have put Utah in a position where they have to come up big in the conference tourney to go dancing.

    If this year ends up being a stepping stone to continued improvement for the program in the years to come, then Utah is on the winning track. But if losses no matter how close become a pattern of losing, then it's gloom and doom. I don't see the latter as true, but only time will tell.

  • UTEG Taylorsville, UT
    March 9, 2014 9:29 a.m.

    The Utes would have a great basketball record if the last five minutes of there games they did not play like a junior high team, its like they forgot basket ball and make real horrible decisions. UNBELIVABLE!

  • IndeMak South Jordan, UT
    March 9, 2014 9:32 a.m.

    Comparing the WCC to the Pac 12 is laughable in any sport. It's 5A vs. 2A. There are 10 teams in the Pac 12 that could win the WCC tourney and would leave with 25 wins with BYU's tough schedule. Any true cougar fan would trade places with Utah in a heartbeat. USU plays in a tougher conference than BYU. Though we aren't at the level of the the best Pac 12 teams, Utah is widening the gap in the most important sports. Now that Utah hoops is back, the gap will get bigger and bigger.

  • Smu Salt Lake, UT
    March 9, 2014 9:45 a.m.

    I have nothing but anticipation for next year. Before the season started I would have gladly taken a spot in the NIT This team is growing. With growth comes inconsistancy. The pieces are there, they have the right coach. Once experience takes over they will bring Utah Basketball back on a higher level. The league it the toughest they have ever played in. We are being noticed again. Teams are keying on our best players. Loveridge for example. I'm just saying go Utes and let's make a splash in the tournament.

  • Y's little brother Sandy, UT
    March 9, 2014 10:00 a.m.

    Uteology

    "Wright: 12 Pts, 8 Reb, 6 Ast, 2 Stl"

    He was the top performer for the Utes in a LOSS.

    Haws: 31 Pts, 8 Reb, 3 Ast, 3 Stl
    KC: 14 Pts, 7 Reb, 9 Ast, 3 Stl

    Wright was only the THIRD best performer from Utah on the same court versus the same team.

    The BIG difference, both Haws and Collinsworth enjoyed a 112-103 WIN!

  • Y's little brother Sandy, UT
    March 9, 2014 10:50 a.m.

    Uteology

    "Wright: 12 Pts, 8 Reb, 6 Ast, 2 Stl"

    He was the top performer for the Utes in a LOSS.

    Haws: 31 Pts, 8 Reb, 3 Ast, 3 Stl
    KC: 14 Pts, 7 Reb, 9 Ast, 3 Stl

    Wright was only the THIRD best performer from Utah on the same court versus the same team.

    The BIG difference, both Haws and Collinsworth enjoyed a 112-103 WIN!

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    UPAC12

    "BYU plays in the WCC Utah plays in the PAC-12 that is all that really needs to be said."

    #31 BYU is 22-10 versus the #38 SOS
    #77 Utah is 20-10 versus the #121 SOS

    Utah would finish behind BYU, Gonzaga, San Francisco and Saint Mary's in the WCC.

    A team that can't beat #212 WSU on the road, would struggle to win any road games in the WCC.

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    March 9, 2014 11:09 a.m.

    Holy smokes, about a quarter of all the comments from one person changing screen names every thirty seconds. Kinda speaks for itself. The Utes will be fine, much to his/her chagrin.

  • pocyUte Pocatello, ID
    March 9, 2014 11:48 a.m.

    Phoenix

    Please don't put words in my mouth.

    Of course it's better to make the NCAA. What I'm saying is that I think BYU is one and done, which is very common for them, and I think Utah is going to the NIT, but they will do quite well in it.

    I would much rather Utah made it to the big dance, I just don't think they will without a finals run in the Pac-12 tourney and that is a tall order.

    Either way, I'm ecstatic that they are a lock for the post season at all. When the season began I felt the CBI would be a successful season, the NIT would a huge success, and the NCAA tourney a pipe dream. The fact that they are even in bubble discussion is amazing and a testament to the work of the staff and the team.

    Hope that clears it up for you.

    Go Utes!!

  • Schnee Salt Lake City, UT
    March 9, 2014 2:41 p.m.

    Okay okay, enough with the nonsensical statements people. If Utah was in the WCC they wouldn't be winning it but would probably be top 3 or at least top 4. If BYU was in the PAC they wouldn't be fighting with Wazzu and USC, they'd be in the giant cluster that spans from 3rd to 10th.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    March 9, 2014 3:33 p.m.

    At down under

    At least back up your position with statistics and facts, otherwise you have no credibility

  • Tomahawk Red North Salt Lake, UT
    March 9, 2014 3:50 p.m.

    But seriously folks!
    Salt Lake City, UT
    Offensive rebounding kills the utes on the road. They improve their road record to 4-31 in 4 years in the pac 11.1.

    ----------

    2011-12
    2012-13
    2013-14

    Equals four years, apparently.

    Your criticism goes out the window once you display your lack of understanding for even the most rudimentary of information.

    You're done.

    Seriously folks.

    lol

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    March 9, 2014 3:51 p.m.

    @Y's little brother
    Sandy, UT

    Uteology

    "Wright: 12 Pts, 8 Reb, 6 Ast, 2 Stl"

    He was the top performer for the Utes in a LOSS.

    Haws: 31 Pts, 8 Reb, 3 Ast, 3 Stl
    KC: 14 Pts, 7 Reb, 9 Ast, 3 Stl

    Wright was only the THIRD best performer from Utah on the same court versus the same team.

    The BIG difference, both Haws and Collinsworth enjoyed a 112-103 WIN!

    ------------

    What is your point? Wright isn't good and Haws and KC are better players? Sorry no one agrees with you. Wright is a NBA prospect, Haws and Collinsworth are Spanish league prospects.

    Speaking of "on the same court on the same court versus the same team" argument, Utah enjoyed a 81-64 thumping of BYU.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    March 9, 2014 4:07 p.m.

    @Old But Not Stupid

    Let's run it down:

    BYU beats Stanford at Stanford. Utes not so close in losing to Stanford at Stanford. Stanford appeared to try and give the game away! You'll remember that the Trees missed 5 of 6 (or was it 7 of 8) free throws in the final three minutes).

    -------------

    So then I am assuming that you would also agree that Utah gave the game to Arizona at the HC?

    We also missed free throws down the stretch against UofA. Actually, if Loveridge had made his second free throw with 20 secs left in regulation we would have won.

    Reason Stanford won was because we came out flat, they killed us on the boards and we played sloppy (13 TOs in first half). Second half Coach K made adjustments and we played better, just not good enough to win.

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    March 9, 2014 5:31 p.m.

    "BYU beats Stanford at Stanford. Utes not so close in losing to Stanford at Stanford."

    Old:

    Hah nice try--like that whole 81-64 thing never happened!

  • Y's little brother Sandy, UT
    March 9, 2014 9:19 p.m.

    "What I'm saying is that I think BYU is one and done, which is very common for them,..."

    How is one-and-done common for BYU? BYU as won at least one game in each of the last three NCAA tournaments they've played in - 2010, 2011, and 2012 - and they advanced to the NIT semi-finals last year, winning three games.

    Meanwhile, the Utes are literally one-and-done in the NCAA since 2005.

  • DraperUteFan Draper, UT
    March 10, 2014 9:18 a.m.

    The Utes need a better strategy when teams double Wright. He held on to the ball too long at the end and it cost them.

    Nobody can be happy with 8th and there are no moral victories, but the program has good talent and has improved every year since joining the PAC 12.

    This team needs to hit the weight room and get a lot tougher physically and especially boxing out. Offensive rebounds killed us in several key close games this year. Better free throw shooting and rebounding advantage need to be a big focus to take another step forward.

    BYU fans who are mocking Utah and celebrating WCC mediocrity are truly comical. BYU was expected to be very good at the start of the season and by any measure have underachieved in an extremely weak conference. Utah by any measure has overachieved in a very difficult conference.

    Looking forward to the PAC 12 tournament. Go Utes!

  • Ed Grady Idaho Falls, ID
    March 10, 2014 10:14 a.m.

    So let me get this straight - Utah lost to a team that plays in a high-school-like gym, that BYU beat in the high-school-like gym. Did I miss anything?

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    March 10, 2014 10:46 a.m.

    "Did I miss anything?"

    Yes, apparently. 81-64.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    March 10, 2014 12:14 p.m.

    IndeMak
    South Jordan, UT

    "Comparing the WCC to the Pac 12 is laughable in any sport."

    True. Why do Utes keep doing it?

    "It's 5A vs. 2A. There are 10 teams in the Pac 12 that could win the WCC tourney and would leave with 25 wins with BYU's tough schedule."

    Hyperbole is so fun to write, impossible to support. There are two, maybe three teams that would compete with Gonzaga, only one that would win more often than not. Same for the BYU tough schedule comment.

    "Any true cougar fan would trade places with Utah in a heartbeat."

    Some would, some wouldn't. I would!

    "USU plays in a tougher conference than BYU."

    And your point is...?

    "Though we aren't at the level of the the best Pac 12 teams, Utah is widening the gap in the most important sports. Now that Utah hoops is back, the gap will get bigger and bigger."

    BYU has better seasons, Utah has better games against BYU (lately). That's called winning the battle, losing the war. I would NOT trade those places with Utah.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    March 10, 2014 12:17 p.m.

    Schnee
    Salt Lake City, UT

    "Okay okay, enough with the nonsensical statements people. If Utah was in the WCC they wouldn't be winning it but would probably be top 3 or at least top 4. If BYU was in the PAC they wouldn't be fighting with Wazzu and USC, they'd be in the giant cluster that spans from 3rd to 10th."

    Thank you!!

  • UtesBy5 Syracuse, UT
    March 10, 2014 7:30 p.m.

    @Y Grad / Y Dad:

    "Comparing the WCC to the Pac 12 is laughable in any sport.

    True. Why do Utes keep doing it?"

    Because the majority of the comments on University of Utah articles are negative posts from WCC fans would be my guess! Why can't BYU fans post on WCC articles and leave the Utah articles for Utes fans?

    Funny you ask that question while posting on a U of U article.

    Go Utes! Please keep us fans in Vegas watching Utes games through Saturday.

  • John Locke Ivins, , UT
    March 10, 2014 11:46 p.m.

    y fans always come out and criticize the Utes, no matter what they do...we beat them this year in BB, and last year in FB, but where would they have finished in the PAC12, in either BB or FB? Most likely 10th in both, but they will never know, will they, "y?" Because they don't play in the PAC 12. IMO, Utah ends up in the Championship game against against Arizona. And they win. Period. Period. When you say "period," it means it is really going to happen...at least that's what it meant up until last year, as I recall.