"If BYU really wants to achieve the goal of another national championship,
it needs the talent pool and a dynamic leader who can take them there"Talent is overrated, that's what byu fans tell us. A
good coach can turn a team full of 1-2 stars nobodies into national
Really?Common... the circumstances between Mendenhall and BYU and
Carroll at USC/Seattle are total opposites.Are we really that bored
that we're writing this type of story?
I like Mendenhall too, but the author here misses the biggest difference maker
and that is a lack of hiring top leadership to run the units of the team. Maybe
Bronco can run the defense, but he so badly needs to hire a quality coach to run
his offense. Someone that is both an innovator and a pragmatic executor.
I'm not talking about gimmick schemes like "Go Fast Go Hard", but
someone that can teach our kids how to create mismatches, picks, execute a
route, block and use Tight Ends in the passing game. Someone who's plays
aren't completely predictable and are designed to move the ball downfield
by attacking a defense at all angles. We've had Anae twice and
he's been mediocre at best (and grumpy - talk about someone with no media
sparkle), and Doman, who had never coached an Offense before. Where are the
Scovills and Holmgrens at BYU today? We don't have to just pick up LDS
coaches to run the Offense. The mark of a great CEO or HC is hiring strong
people to run the organization.I give Bronco an 'F' on who
he's hired as OC.
Winning has a tendency to hide issues.When/Where Pete has won...he
is a media fan darling...However...Pete left SC holding the bag when
he went on his merry/likeable way to Seattle.SC is still trying to
recover...Re: likeable...Jerry Sloan once said if he was
likeable...He would be setting up in the seats with the fans.I would prefer Bronco follow the Jerry Sloan blue collar approach...Let's leave the digging out of the violation mess to the likes of
SC alum/fans/administration who loved the Pete Mystique while it lead to
winning...but are continuing to wonder if it was worth all the trouble.
When the fans don't like you much, that means you like yourself too much.
People pay a lot of money to see winners, the focus should be on that (if you
want to have a football program) if not there are MANY other ways and means to
build character. BYU fans come to see fighters and in recent years have been
disappointed. It's about the fans and players, not a proud coach. The Y
needs a leader who knows that.
I don't think that Bronco Mendenhall should try to be Pete Carroll.
@ CBYou could give us a rundown of the last 5 years of recruiting and show
that BYU is not made of 1-2 star nobodies.It would also illustrate the
dramatic decline in the quality of Utah recruits.Utah secand best
recruiting class in history was while the were in the MWC.
From the boasting of Utah supporters regarding recruiting classes and talent,
you'd think they'd already have won a national championship
The author is obviously a Seahawks fan and therefore a Pete Carroll fan but I
won't hold that against him. While I commend Pete Carroll for his success
in Seattle, he's probably one of the last coaches I would want Bronco to
aspire to. Cheerleading coaches like Carroll are understandably popular with
fans and the media but it's that kind of behavior that sometimes gets him
in trouble with the media. Let's also not forget that Carroll
was at USC and conveniently took the Seattle gig just as that program was being
punished for NCAA recruiting violations that resulted in their 2004 national
championship being vacated and Reggie Bush being stripped of his Heisman trophy.
I don't need to tell you who the head coach was during that time and you
may already be aware that your beloved Seahawks have led the NFL is player
suspensions for PED use since Carroll took the job in 2010. Perhaps
I'm being way too critical on Pete Carroll but my point is, is a coach with
this much baggage the kind of the coach you really want Bronco to model himself
after? I don't think so.
I echo what some other commentators have said. Ask USC fans how much they love
PC right now as they try and dig themselves out of the hole he left them in with
his deceit and cheating. You can smile for the cameras, cheer your players on
all you want but at the end of the day, if you've been found lacking in
character there are going to be people that will never respect you because
you've let them down. USC is still reeling from Pete Carroll, and while
he's celebrating and making wise cracks to the media and living it up,
they're wallowing in underachievement and hamstrung by the lies he strung
them along with.I do agree that Mendenhall can do some things
differently and allow his players more latitude to be themselves, and endear
himself to the media and fans, but Carroll isn't a model of good
leadership, with an "end justifies the means" type perspective. Charlie
Strong would be a good model to follow in my opinion...players love him, the
media likes him, and he's a good leader who demands respect because of his
I think too many people spend their whole life trying to be someone else and
trying to please everyone else instead of being true to themselves! Love Bronco
or hate him he is true to himself and others!!! That is why I am a Bronco fan
and a True Blue BYU fan since I can remember!!!Go Cougs!!! Rise
Be smartFour out of the last five years byu lost to Utah in
And as much trouble as USC was in as a football team - the 2013 trotting utes
eeked out 3 points. But they love their pac one two membership.
I read the title and pulled it up to see if the Deseret News was now publishing
CBUtah supposedly isn't rivals with BYU.And they are dead last
in their new conference.Is it a trend that Utah recruiting has tanked in
three years?Only time will tell.Being the Rutgers of the Pac-12 does
not help much.Or getting Florida players that were passed up by big time
Utah recruiting per scout2.64-20102.90-20112.69-20122.58-20132.65-2014Interesting that they are back to MWC levels.As a famouse singer would say.And they go down, down, down to the ring
of failure.Dead last in the Pacout recruited by 1-11 Cal.
What does it mean to be a true blue fan or crimson fan? Silly stuff! It's
just a game, and in this case, played by a couple of not so good teams. It
isn't war or something of great significance, so again what's with all
the true blue. It's just a color.
Setting aside the comparison to Pete Carroll, I mostly agree with the article.
There is no good reason to be curt and prickly with the fans or the media. It
pays off to have them on your side in the long term. Bronco is very personable
when he is around those he trusts. Sadly, that appears to be a very small group.
Anae could use a refresher public relations course. I also agree with the
comment about getting some coaches with more outside experience. I will say that
Bronco has shown some progress with the hiring of coach Holliday.
Bronco's not out of touch with THIS fan. I'm a Bronco Mendenhall fan
first and a BYU Football fan second. Have you read Running Into the Wind?
One day right about 1st or 2nd day Bronco became the Head Coach, LaVell Edward
came to see him. Edward said to him, "Be Yourself". Bronco will never be
like Pete, no way!I can see Ty Detmer in that catagory "Make the
media like you" and "Be Who You Are," but will he come? Stay tune!
lame article. and i'm a seahawks fan. carroll is a pro coach. he led usc
down the drain.bronco is bronco. nothing wrong with that.
Honestly, what's the big deal? In my opinion he already meets all 4 of the
qualifications.In reference to the first paragraph, who at byu or in the
state of Utah feels that they don't personally know bronco? As a Ute fan I
would love to know him away from football. Anybody that rides a hog is A-1 in my
book. Bronco, keep doing what you do, don't listen to the media.
Holy cow - I'm going to be generous and call this story silly. Granted,
Bronco M. could use some work on his people skills, but to say that he should be
more like Pete Carroll is absurd. Is the author suggesting that Mendenhall
should aspire to be fired from two NFL jobs as was Carroll? Is the author
suggesting that Mendenhall should have an affair with a grad student as Carroll
was rumored to have done? Is the author suggesting that Mendenhall should allow
the BYU football program to suffer severe NCAA sanctions and leave town one step
ahead of the possee as Carroll did at USC? As the saying goes - "be careful
what you wish for."
@besmart,When did I say byu and Utah were rivals? Its partially
true. Utah is byu's rival but byu isn't Utah's rival.4 out of 5 years beat byu in recruiting.4 years in a row beat byu
on the field(Van Noy never won a super bowl lol)Think those are
related?You'd better believe it!
Chris , if BYU is not your rival, why do you keep commenting so often?
You mean besides how to commit multiple NCAA violations? Yeah, not a good
comparison at all.
"Utah is BYU's rival but BYU isn't Utah's rival."We all thought denial was a river in Egypt, but it obviously flows
freely from under that crimson bubble on the hill.
With all do respect to the author. Pete Carroll should not even have a job let
alone anyone's respect. Go to USC and pay your players? Get the school in
all kinds of trouble and then leave it in the lurch before it is made public.
Something is really wrong. The majority of our country use to believe in
honesty. No more, nothing to see here as long as have a nice demeanor wins
games......That said the point the author makes is a good one. I
just have little to no respect for the example you chose.
Criticizing the author is silly. He picked out a very few specific things Bronco
could learn from Pete Carol to incorporate into his own bank of leadership
skills. I didn't read that Bronco should become Pete Carroll.Why do readers put far more into what was written than there? So many
"emotional" and yet shallow responses are usually an indication that
many did not actually ingest and analyze what they read. I agree
with suggestions he actually made and nothing more. He never said Bronco needed
to remake himself or cheat. He suggested Bronco utilize his private
interpersonal charm a little more with the public (become more likable) and
continue to build a solid reputation for defense. In fairness, there
were also some good comments above. Fact! Bronco has mostly mismanaged the
offense since he arrived. That needs to be fixed. I still doubt Anae's
leadership. BYU had a great system IT INVENTED (WCO). Big egos have tampered
with what worked and would still work today (even with GHGF as it did before).
I am not an Anae fan for reasons another poster suggested. If you aren't
getting better in key areas, your getting worse!
Pete Carroll's success in the W-L column is obvious. In the NFL winning is
the only thing that matters. Collegiate athletics does not need any PC's,
Pete Carroll can also teaach any college team how to cheat and pay players
leaving his once proud school in the midst of NCAA sanctions while bolting to
the NFL to make millions of more dollars and win a Superbowl. When will the
NCAA and NFL team up to not allow these cheating individuals the chance to bolt
the first time an investigation is brought up. Pete Carroll may be a good
football coach but that does not make him a good person and he should take the
hit in how he left USC!
In bad years the Bronc goes 8-4…in good years he does 10 plus
wins….he's searching for the undefeated season…it will come.
This is a good article. He never implied that Pete was a prince at USC and that
he didn't leave behind a mess. All his comments were legit about Bronco
upping his game with press interviews and allowing players to "be
themselves" personality wise….as long as those players don't go
wild, they don't need to be clone cookie cutters of each other. These are
good points. As to CB mentioning, again, the 1-2 star athletes that BYU uses
to get our 8-10 win seasons….keep wishing….someday you may have a
team that is remotely relevant and has routine winning seasons and bowl games vs
just a punching bag for the average PAC12 teams….keep cashing your
paycheck fro the PAC12…you'll never have the Y's facilities or
student body or intellectual horsepower of the students.