Be prepared for the haters Frank.
Wow! Someone from Utah actually wrote a letter telling the truth about ACA!Will wonders never cease?
Good to hear.
Was it a 40% price reduction from your original premiums you were paying from
2010 to 2013, or was it a 40% reduction from the 300% price increase you
encountered during your 2014 ACA signup?
The GOP's worst nightmare is coming true. After getting off to a rocky
start, Obamacare is beginning to work as planned. Enrollments have increased
rapidly since December, and the age mix of buyers will make the program
Wow -- Thank Goodness, Because Frank and his wife will need that
insurance once the village Obama-haters show up with their pitch-forks and
torches at his house!They last thing they want to hear is that their
AM radio, college drop-out, millionaire talkshow hosts are once again WRONG and
that Americans are actually getting the help they need from due to a black
Democrat in the WhiteHouse.Great Letter Frank, and thanks for
having the courage to share it!
Reading about "ObamaCare" in Utah shows that unless you are willing to
let someone else pay part of your premium or unless you have a huge cash
reserve, you're going to pay much more for any medical care than you paid
before ObamaCare. Here's a few facts that I found
interesting:- Illegal aliens will continue to get medical care
without insurance and without penalty for not having insurance.- All
plans must include maternity coverage and newborn coverage, regardless of age or
marital status.- All plans must include dental and eye care.- In Salt Lake County, a family plan will cost $623 to $978 per month,
depending on how much your neighbors "contribute" to your policy
costs.If you believe that your neighbor should pay for your
healthcare costs, you'll like ObamaCare, but if you believe that every
American has the duty to pay his own personal welfare costs, then you'll
realize that ObamaCare is not for you.
@Mike Richards"- All plans must include dental and eye care."Goodness you people sure like to complain. You feel like you're
being robbed because someone else gets something you don't need. How about
just being happy you have good eyesight? Should I be bitter that my insurance
covers cancer even though I don't have it?
So happy to hear Frank! (And I am another that had success this year after not
having any insurance for seven years). Good Luck All!A volunteer for the
AFA passing and implementation
Mike RichardsSouth Jordan, UtahIf you believe that your
neighbor should pay for your healthcare costs, you'll like ObamaCare, but
if you believe that every American has the duty to pay his own personal welfare
costs, then you'll realize that ObamaCare is not for you.======== Mike -- Every American has that duty to pay his own via
the mandate to buy their own Healthcare under the ACA (Obamacare) and welfare
via Social Security.No one gets a free ride.FYI -- We [your
neighbors] will be more than happy to pay for your healthcare costs, Social
Security & Medicare Mike.It takes a lot of audacity to keep
saying one thing, then turning right around and doing the other.
@Schnee,Maybe you were taught different things about the
responsibilities of life. I was taught that the duty of a father and husband
was to take care of his family without holding his hand out to his neighbors. I
was also taught that helping the less fortunate was a duty; but, when people
expect you to pay for their health care premiums so that they don't have to
pay for them, then you are expecting someone else to do something that
you're not willing to do yourself. If we WANT dental and eye care
coverage, we should have the option to buy that coverage. Why should the great
father in Washington, D.C. have the "right" to tell us what we need and
what we WILL pay for (or have our neighbors pay for, in the case of most of
those who support ObamaCare)? The greatest incentive that we will
ever have in life is to see our family needing something that we are responsible
to provide. When you pass that obligation on to others, you are robbing your
family and yourself of the experience of being responsible.
Great letter. See, it is too working!
Mike, Without your employer paying most of your current coverage, you would
think $978 was a great deal. Your co-workers are currently
contributing to pay your premiums.
@Mike RichardsThen by your definition there should be no health
insurance coverage at all. That is how health insurance is run, money is pooled
together and risk is spread out within the group. This way groups share costs
and responsibilities.The "experience of being responsible"
you describe is not realistic and opens you up to the experience of bankruptcy
and sub-standard health care. Our nation spends more per person on health care
costs because we allowed the most inefficient system of medicine to root itself
here. Those fiscally responsible understand the system is unsustainable and
action needed to be taken.
Mike:Did your family go to public school? Do they drive on paved
roads? Do you use streetlights to see after dark? Is your property protected
by the police and fire departments? Do you rely upon the military to protect
you from foreign invasions? Do you eat food that was inspected for safety?
Have you ever dropped a letter in a mailbox? Have you ever used a public
park?If you've answered "yes" to any of these
questions, then congratulations. You've expected other people to do
something you weren't willing to do yourself. Guess you were robbed of the
experience of being responsible.I have to agree with Schnee. Some
people just like to complain.
Well Mike Richards weighed in. And as usual a family getting the health care
that they desperately need is belittled by dogma. I pay huge
property taxes and that goes to support children that I don't have in the
system....opps Mike. Should my neighbors kids not get the education they need
because they are getting support from the government? Those darn freeloaders!
These people are coming across very mean spirited to those who need
help. I get so tired of their attitudes!
Well im in the age group that needs to buy this in order to sustain it. If I
came back to the U.S. I would never buy obamacare even if I got cancer. I will
just die my own way rather than the alternative.
@Mike RichardsWe were already paying for their healthcare. The average
American family was spending a thousand dollars a year for emergency care for
the uninsured (Romney talked about this when he was touting Romneycare as a
means of eliminating free-riders). After all one of the major
complaints about Obamacare is the insurance mandate. It's deemed a burden
on the poor. So which is it? Are the poor being harmed by having to actually put
something into the insurance pot, or are they just a bunch of moochers getting
free health insurance? I'd like to know because your side makes both
I like that someone shared an experience with enrolling through the ACA site.
However I think a sample of one is too small and I would love to hear other
experiences also. I do think that the "Cobra" program, for those who
stop working for a company and want to keep their insurance w'o being
subsidized by the employer's share, until finding another insurance
provider, is typically an expensive way to go.One thing that I
should say is that it is not necessary to enroll on the official Obama site. If
I am not very much mistaken you can enroll with any compatible program privately
I bet in time we will find that the ACA does work. It is a huge thing to get
going. You can't tell me that what we had before was better. I know one
guy, before ACA had to buy insurance for his family because he is self employed.
The best he cold find cost him $700 a month with a $7,000 co pay! Think how hard
republicans tried to destroy everything Obama did! You think they will ever
admit that they are wrong? Our state is filled with Obama haters. What have
republicans done for us? They have done nothing. They spent all of their time
trying to bring Obama down, and that is it! Now they are ripping each other
I'm really confused here...maybe you good folks can help me out.Obamacare is now the law of the land, period. SCOTUS has deemed it a tax. We
were told prior to its passage, and even to this day by Obama himself, that ACA
is vital to helping bring America's healthcare costs down, and to improve
healthcare. We were told it just COULDN'T WAIT! Okay, so why did Obama
initially delay the "Employer Mandate" portion of ACA until 2014, but as
recently as a week or two ago, has indicated that he may delay it until 2016?
The majority of Americans receive their health insurance through their
employers.Again, if this process for signing up is so smooth, such a
great deal, so vital for bringing our healthcare costs down, why would Obama
delay the employer mandate portion, which the bulk of Americans fall under, for
another two years?Here's a clue: the individual mandate portion
of ACA was an unmitigated disaster. The employer mandate is going to be the
same mess on steroids.The young college age folks are just know
coming to understand, it is they who will pay the bulk on this disaster.
Just a few interesting tidbits concerning Obamacare and its raging success!* The goal for Obamacare enrollees was supposed to be at least 7
million. Sadly only 3.3 million have enrolled to date. Now why would that
be?* VP Joe Biden just announced: "We may not get to seven
million, we may get to five or six, but that's a hell of a
start…" Sure thing Joe! I guess people just don’t want to save
all of the money you and the Dems told them they would.* Oregon,
that great progressive bastion still has NO Enrollments in their Oregon Health
Exchange. Imagine that!* Young Adults, 35 and under, who were being
counted on to sign up for ACA (these are the folks who pay more into the system
and take little out) are NOT signing up. Funny how things change when you find
out you're the one paying the freight. Hope and Change, collectivism,
wealth redistribution all sounded great as a college student; now, not so
much.Yep, Obamacare is a raging success!
I'm happy to have the chance to relate our very positive experience with
the ACA. I think that often it's only the negative stories that make the
news.My husband and I were notified early last year that we were losing
his employer based insurance. As it was, between premiums and copays, we were
paying close to 25% of our monthly income on medical. COBRA would have been more
than our monthly income. We worried all last year what we'd do for health
insurance in 2014. We are both 3 - 5 years away from Medicare. In late
November, we were able to log onto the ACA website without any problems. We
easily found a plan we could not only afford but one that has reduced our outlay
for premiums and copays more than 75% over our previous policy. Our doctors were
all on the plan we chose. My husband and I have both been to the doctor already
this year and have had absolutely no problems with our new insurance carrier.
No doubt there are others who have had a different experience, but
for our family the ACA has been nothing but a miracle and a tremendous financial
"Maybe you were taught different things about the responsibilities of life.
I was taught that the duty of a father and husband was to take care of his
family without holding his hand out to his neighbors."Mike after
reading this I am absolutely sure that you will support removing the per child
tax credit. That way a father and husband would be taking care of his family
without holding his hand out to his neighbors.
Shhhhh, Don't tell ANY Good stories -- only the BAD
stories....We don't the truth or reality skewing or clearing
the Conservative's World of Make-Believe.
Sven, you all just keep hoping that by continually telling falsehoods and half
truths people will believe you. Not going to happen, as the roll out continues
to pick up steam and successes.First of all the majority of
businesses (those with over 100 employees) don't have a reprieve from the
mandate. They simply only need to have 70% of employees covered by 2015 instead
of 90%. Those with under 100 employees did get a year reprieve
because many of them have never provided insurance before and this gives them
additional time to adjust. With the law going no where you are really going to
have to talk hard to convince anyone this is a bad think.You say
young people aren't signing up. Not true 24 to 30 percent of all new
signups are under 35. Besides the point of the young is not to have young
participants it's to have healthy participants, so as long as healthy
adults of any age are signing up we're good, and that is absolutely