A win is a win, looking forward to the Zags visit to Provo. Should be a good
Another nice win for the Cougars! Saturday is a big game. Let's keep that
winning streak alive! Great job by the ROC last night as well. I loved the
"OFF THE COURT" chant every time the opposing coach stepped 3 feet onto
the floor. The atmosphere at the Marriott center is great and only getting
better, just like the team.Keep this up and we'll be seeing the
team in the Big Dance in March!
For those who didn't watch, the game was not as close as the final score
indicates. Cougs were up by over 20 before SC closed the gap against the 2nd
teamers in the final 5 minutes.Tyler's consistency is amazing.
He is almost always double teamed and still finds a way to score. He is one the
purest shooters I have ever seen.I'm very impressed with how
Worthington has played the last two games.
I didn't get to see the second half, but it was pretty clear in the first
that Santa Clara was no match for the Cougars. I'm sure they were on
cruise control for much of the second.It is interesting that
SC's coach could get away with being 3 feet into the area of play, yet BYU
got a bench warning because Coach Pope had the nerve to talk to Winder during a
break in the action; when the Cougars were going to be shooting free throws
clear over on the other end of the floor, no less. Ridiculous.I
don't expect referees to be perfect. I'd just like them to be
consistent. For once.
"When was the last time byu beat a team which was ranked at the time they
played?"I like this comment. When Utah beat Stanford, Utah
couldn't give BYU the credit for beating Texas "when they were ranked
at the time of playing" because they didn't finish the season ranked.
However, now that it's basketball, and Utah got their "Stanford
type" win against UCLA, and UCLA fell out of the rankings, now it's all
about BYU hasn't beat a team at the time they were ranked. Never mind that
BYU beat Texas who is currently ranked 15/18. I'm getting very
Good win for BYU last night to keep BYU tied for 2nd in the WCC heading into a
showdown with San Francisco for soul possession of 2nd place.PAC
manUtah is winless (0-1) versus ranked teams and winless (0-6) away
from the HC this season.
Opinions about RPI, SOS, quality wins and quality losses are all subjective.
That being said, I value ESPN’s Joe Lunardi’s opinion over Chris B
(or any other anti-BYU troll). Lunardi’s Feb 6 bracketology shows that if
the NCAA tournament was today BYU would be in as a 12 seed. Here’s a break-down of their meaningful wins and losses. BYU has beat:
#5 seed Texas (road), #9 seed Stanford (road), and St. Mary’s (who was a
#12 seed last week). They lost close ones to #4 seed Iowa State (road), #1 seed
Wichita State (road), #7 seed Mass (road), #7 Gonzaga (road), and Oregon (road,
first four out). So they are 2/6 against tourney bound teams with every single
loss being a road game. They’ve beat some solid teams and narrowly lost
on the road to top teams. The pieces are there, if the Cougs can get a little
momentum they could make some noise in a few weeks.
Doesn't matter about the past. What matters now win out the wcc torney or
MAYBE be able to get in the ncaa if byu play in the final of wcc. What I saw
last night was a rec game. Those zebras are bunch of jokers. This wcc is a joke
as well. Byu is finding ways to win right now but must continue the rest of the
This was a great game. I am very impressed with the overall improvement of the
team regarding consistency. Previously streaky players are stepping up, with
ever-improving confidence, every game. The team chemistry is gelling. It is fun
to see Mika back. It is rare to have a freshman with his physical presence. He
creates real frustrations for opposing centers. Coach Rose has done a wonderful
job this year in making the adjustments necessary for the team to make great
overall improvement. The free throw shooting has been an example of that steady
improvement. BYU is a fun brand of basketball to watch.Thanks to
those who stay on-topic! The new D-News editorial guidelines require that. BYU
deserves to have a dialogue about the game when the article is about the game.
Utah deserves the same courtesy with articles written about Utah’s games.
Why does every article about BYU turn into a Utah vs. BYU argument? It is
annoying.I feel sorry for Carlino because it appears to me that he
is working his way out of the rotation due to his poor play. I watched the game
and thought his performance was much worse than Winder and Bartley.
CarnakWho cares whether UCLA was ranked a month ago? All that
matters is that the Bruins aren't ranked NOW!Utah fans twist
irrelevant "facts" to help themselves feel better about their conference
bottom dwelling team.Four more road losses, a home loss or two, and
an early exit from the PAC tourney are all you've got to look forward
to.Slap another PAC 12 sticker on something if it helps you feel
@ AZUTE1:It took only the 2nd comment to this strictly BYU article
for you to bring Utah into an off-topic dialog and start the back and forth
bantering again. How about we try to stay on topic by having all
comments on BYU articles be only about BYU and all comments on Utah articles be
only about Utah.Otherwise, an argument ALWAYS pursues and nothing
positive happens... ever!
talkinsportsGilbert, AZNice try. UCLA was ranked when Utah
Nobody knows the answer to my question up above?I'm seriously
in total suspense right now! I'll admit and give credit where
credit's due, as beating Santa Clara is a resume-builder, indeed....Yet, I
respectfully request somebody significantly more knowledgeable on the topic than
I am to mercifully give to me its answer!OK, here we go again--"When was the last time byu beat a team which was ranked at the time
they played?"Of course, since this article is solely about byu
basketball, naturally my question is equally about byu basketball only....Also,
it requires no additional stats to be researched/presented, either.Thanks in advance!
Tators--"It took only the 2nd comment to this strictly BYU
article for you to bring Utah into an off-topic dialog and start the back and
forth bantering again."Not true....I spoke merely of byu
basketball, the subject of this article, and nothing otherwise, whatsoever!
AZUTE1Mesa, AZ yes you spoke only of BYU basketball but your comments had
nothing to do with the game that was played you always put negativity about
BYU in your comments ,so unless you have something positive to say it might just
be better for you to say nothing.Your comments were off topic
Strangely, this article is about exactly what the headline stated - Tyler Haws
and BYU vs. Santa Clara. Perhaps in Mesa, AZ it was interpreted as a question
about BYU basketball history, which could have been answered with a little
research. Nice game, Cougars.
AZUTE1Nobody cares about the answer to your contrived question; the
only thing that's important now is BYU has beaten a ranked team THIS YEAR
and Utah hasn't.As far as Santa Clara being a resume builder
for BYU... #213 Santa Clara is certainly more of a resume builder for BYU than 9
of Utah's 13 Div 1 wins were for the Utes:#323 UC Davis, #226
Grand Canyon, #346 Lamar, #313 Savannah State, #298 Ball State, #279 Idaho
State, and #280 Texas StateKeep trying; you're just making the
Utes look even more desperate for some sort of relevance after killing their
chances for an NCAA berth before the season even began.
AZUTE1:Assuming your interest is somehow now genuine in BYU
basketball (apparently very few can remember when it last was), the last time
they beat a ranked team was February 2, 2012 when they beat Gonzaga, and by
double digits.FYI:They played only 1 ranked team last season,
so not much opportunity.They lost to ranked Iowa State by only 2
points this season, after being ahead most of that game. A heart-breaker.The lost to ranked UMass on the road by single digits this season in
another very competitive game.Soon after,they lost to ranked Oregon
(at Oregon) in overtime. Another hear-breaker.Obviously,
they've been consistently very competitive against ranked teams this
season, but haven't yet figured out how to finish them off at the end of
those games. Very close, but still not quite.And now in return,
please tell us when was the last time the Ute men's b-ball team beat a
ranked team. Thanks in advance.
No playoff for USalt Lake City, UTEvidently your friend
talkinsports from Gilbert, AZ cares since he is the one who brought it up. I was
just trying to correct his uninformed comment.Perhaps a re-reading
of talkinsports post would be helpful.
"And now in return, please tell us when was the last time the Ute men's
b-ball team beat a ranked team. Thanks in advance."It was UCLA
this year. UCLA has fell out of the rankings soon thereafter and have not
reemerged. But really, who cares if anyone beats a ranked team when
and why. One game does not make a season.
Carnak"Evidently your friend talkinsports from Gilbert, AZ cares
since he is the one who brought it up."Nope! It was AZUTE1 who
brought it up (comment since deleted).Regardless, the following
facts remain:BYU has beaten a currently ranked team and has a PAC 12
road win this season.Utah is winless (0-1) versus currently ranked
teams and winless (0-6) away from the HC this season.
@ CougarSunDevil:Apparently, AZUTE1 cares about such things. His
question (and reiterated) opened the topic and for reasons that only he knows.
But since you're so accommodating, and just for trivia fun,
please tell us when Utah last beat a ranked team BEFORE the UCLA game a short
Anyone read the article about u's win and not a single BYU fan show up with
negative comments and yet on a BYU article the u fans show up to put the Cougars
down at any opportunity?
Objectified"But since you're so accommodating, and just for
trivia fun, please tell us when Utah last beat a ranked team BEFORE the UCLA
game a short time ago."Sorry, I can think of about 1 million
things that I'd rather do with my time than to try and figure out how long
ago Utah defeated a ranked team. I'm not a Utah fan and I don't follow
them unless they are playing one of my teams or I read a comment that is too
outlandish and I have to say something. Other than that, I care about BYU and
ASU. However, if it's really important to you or others, I know Yahoo, most
college websites, and some other fan sites would be great resources for you to
find out these type of Jeopardy! facts. I wish you the very best and hope you
find what you're looking for. Love from the Desert! It's currently 65 degrees here! (76 by Sunday. I'd say we're
SportsFanOrem, UT... and Utah beat BYU by 17 and it
wasn't that close.Your point?
"#213 Santa Clara is certainly more of a resume builder for BYU than 9 of
Utah's 13 Div 1 wins"Noplayoff: There you go again,
comparing apples to oranges. Let's see if we can get some clarity, using
that most-beloved tool for cougar fans this BB season.Before last
night's games, BYU's RPI was #41, with a #12 SOS. Utah's RPI was
#110, with a #171 RPI. This morning, the daily updated RPI on ESPN lists BYU at
#45/#22 and Utah at #98/#160.So, in one night, BYU's win netted
them -4 RPI and -10 SOS, while Utah's win netted them a +12 RPI and +11
SOS. Such are the facts of life as conference play progresses in strong
conferences and weak conferences.Cougar fans better get their wild
spin in quick, because the last shred of misplaced pride, clung to after losing
to the Utes by 17, will be gone by March.
"tell us when Utah last beat a ranked team BEFORE the UCLA game "object:That would be last season, 72-62 over #19 Oregon.
"Anyone read the article about u's win and not a single BYU fan show up
with negative comments . . .?Down under:Evidently you
missed Cincy's reference to "all of Utah's cupcake wins";
RenoCoug's "Byu is second in the WCC and has more wins then Utah";
Oldnotstupid's "Does ANYONE believe that Utah will be one of "the 6
PAC-12 teams" invited to the big dance?"; CFIT's "if Utah
played BYU in the MC BYU would win and this would prove that the Cougs are the
better team"; and SamoanYfans' hilarious imitation of Chris B.
JohnInSLC"...the daily updated RPI on ESPN lists...Utah at #98
(RPI)/#160 (SOS).Utah's win netted them a +12 RPI and +11 SOS."Never in my life did I think I'd hear someone brag about a team
that is sitting at 98 RPI and 160 SOS and be so proud of it. I think I'm
going to have to petition ASU to do a recall on their vote to have Utah join the
PAC-12 if this is the PAC 12 Heights Utah wants to achieve.
I can spit further than any of you--- so there! Sure can't tell there are
any adults on this board today. Actually, this win, while a well played
game, makes me somewhat nervous. Last year SF beats us pretty good at the MC
and this game didn't really test our guys. It's great to see Mika
back to his pre-injury form the last couple games with an especially good
showing last night. That's hopeful. Need to be prepared to guard the 3
pt. line well and stay active on both D and in passing the ball on O. Still
like to see more production from the bench. Carlino has been off and I'm
not quite sure why-- he was really lighting it up off the bench there for
awhile. The crowd needs to be rocking on Sat. Go Coug's!
Awesome win over #187 Santa Clara. Final Four baby...Final Four...
JohnInSLC,No I was reading the article on Loveridge. By the way, I
can't wait until u goes on the road to build up their SOS and RPI. In the
immortal words o CB...LOL.
So the u is #98 and #160 and BYU is #45 and #22. As I recall there are 64
teams invited to the big dance. Hmmmm.............. Does anyone
think the NCAA will come calling to anywhere but Provo? Me thinks not.
souptwins"Sure can't tell there are any adults on this
board today."Yeah, that's not condescending to anyone.
Tom in TooeleAwesome win over #187 Santa Clara. Final Four baby...Final
Four...Tom in Tooele, Thank you for your encouraging support of BYU.
May I also send my hearty congratulations on your victory over #280 Texas
State, #298 Ball State, #313 Savannah State, #356 Lamar, #323 UC Davis, and all
of the sub #352 Evergreen State, St Katherine's College, and Grand Canyon.
Final Four Baby.
Throw another shrimp on the barbie my good man DU...We can celebrate
the wins over Prairie View and Mesa College...and I won't say a word about
loses to Loyola, Pepperdine, the Pesky Pilots or them bloody blokes I up in Salt
Lake.Just keep beating the conferences foes! After #23 gonzo the
WCC are #88 thru #343...now that's some basketball Skipper...Any truth to the rumor ya'll go independent in hoops so you can schedule
Lone Peak and the Globetrotters
CarnakSalt Lake City, UTSportsFanOrem, UT... and
Utah beat BYU by 17 and it wasn't that close.Your point? yes
for only the second time in about 20 games the last win before this year was in
the majerus years so your point is moot,NEXT