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BYU basketball: Tyler Haws leads Cougars past Santa Clara

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  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Feb. 6, 2014 11:46 p.m.

    A win is a win, looking forward to the Zags visit to Provo. Should be a good game!

  • 93 COUGAR Orem, UT
    Feb. 7, 2014 4:44 a.m.

    Another nice win for the Cougars! Saturday is a big game. Let's keep that winning streak alive! Great job by the ROC last night as well. I loved the "OFF THE COURT" chant every time the opposing coach stepped 3 feet onto the floor. The atmosphere at the Marriott center is great and only getting better, just like the team.

    Keep this up and we'll be seeing the team in the Big Dance in March!

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Feb. 7, 2014 6:44 a.m.

    For those who didn't watch, the game was not as close as the final score indicates. Cougs were up by over 20 before SC closed the gap against the 2nd teamers in the final 5 minutes.

    Tyler's consistency is amazing. He is almost always double teamed and still finds a way to score. He is one the purest shooters I have ever seen.

    I'm very impressed with how Worthington has played the last two games.

  • NevadaCoug Overton, NV
    Feb. 7, 2014 7:51 a.m.

    I didn't get to see the second half, but it was pretty clear in the first that Santa Clara was no match for the Cougars. I'm sure they were on cruise control for much of the second.

    It is interesting that SC's coach could get away with being 3 feet into the area of play, yet BYU got a bench warning because Coach Pope had the nerve to talk to Winder during a break in the action; when the Cougars were going to be shooting free throws clear over on the other end of the floor, no less. Ridiculous.

    I don't expect referees to be perfect. I'd just like them to be consistent. For once.

  • CougarSunDevil Phoenix, AZ
    Feb. 7, 2014 8:14 a.m.

    "When was the last time byu beat a team which was ranked at the time they played?"

    I like this comment. When Utah beat Stanford, Utah couldn't give BYU the credit for beating Texas "when they were ranked at the time of playing" because they didn't finish the season ranked. However, now that it's basketball, and Utah got their "Stanford type" win against UCLA, and UCLA fell out of the rankings, now it's all about BYU hasn't beat a team at the time they were ranked. Never mind that BYU beat Texas who is currently ranked 15/18.

    I'm getting very dizzy.

  • talkinsports Gilbert, AZ
    Feb. 7, 2014 8:57 a.m.

    Good win for BYU last night to keep BYU tied for 2nd in the WCC heading into a showdown with San Francisco for soul possession of 2nd place.

    PAC man

    Utah is winless (0-1) versus ranked teams and winless (0-6) away from the HC this season.

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    Feb. 7, 2014 9:13 a.m.

    Opinions about RPI, SOS, quality wins and quality losses are all subjective. That being said, I value ESPN’s Joe Lunardi’s opinion over Chris B (or any other anti-BYU troll). Lunardi’s Feb 6 bracketology shows that if the NCAA tournament was today BYU would be in as a 12 seed.

    Here’s a break-down of their meaningful wins and losses. BYU has beat: #5 seed Texas (road), #9 seed Stanford (road), and St. Mary’s (who was a #12 seed last week). They lost close ones to #4 seed Iowa State (road), #1 seed Wichita State (road), #7 seed Mass (road), #7 Gonzaga (road), and Oregon (road, first four out). So they are 2/6 against tourney bound teams with every single loss being a road game. They’ve beat some solid teams and narrowly lost on the road to top teams. The pieces are there, if the Cougs can get a little momentum they could make some noise in a few weeks.

  • DEW Cougars Sandy, UT
    Feb. 7, 2014 10:07 a.m.

    Doesn't matter about the past. What matters now win out the wcc torney or MAYBE be able to get in the ncaa if byu play in the final of wcc. What I saw last night was a rec game. Those zebras are bunch of jokers. This wcc is a joke as well. Byu is finding ways to win right now but must continue the rest of the rec league.

  • Snark Provo, UT
    Feb. 7, 2014 10:11 a.m.

    This was a great game. I am very impressed with the overall improvement of the team regarding consistency. Previously streaky players are stepping up, with ever-improving confidence, every game. The team chemistry is gelling. It is fun to see Mika back. It is rare to have a freshman with his physical presence. He creates real frustrations for opposing centers. Coach Rose has done a wonderful job this year in making the adjustments necessary for the team to make great overall improvement. The free throw shooting has been an example of that steady improvement. BYU is a fun brand of basketball to watch.

    Thanks to those who stay on-topic! The new D-News editorial guidelines require that. BYU deserves to have a dialogue about the game when the article is about the game. Utah deserves the same courtesy with articles written about Utah’s games.

  • Tilka PORTLAND, OR
    Feb. 7, 2014 10:23 a.m.

    Why does every article about BYU turn into a Utah vs. BYU argument? It is annoying.

    I feel sorry for Carlino because it appears to me that he is working his way out of the rotation due to his poor play. I watched the game and thought his performance was much worse than Winder and Bartley.

  • No playoff for U Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 7, 2014 11:05 a.m.

    Carnak

    Who cares whether UCLA was ranked a month ago? All that matters is that the Bruins aren't ranked NOW!

    Utah fans twist irrelevant "facts" to help themselves feel better about their conference bottom dwelling team.

    Four more road losses, a home loss or two, and an early exit from the PAC tourney are all you've got to look forward to.

    Slap another PAC 12 sticker on something if it helps you feel better.

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Feb. 7, 2014 11:11 a.m.

    @ AZUTE1:

    It took only the 2nd comment to this strictly BYU article for you to bring Utah into an off-topic dialog and start the back and forth bantering again.

    How about we try to stay on topic by having all comments on BYU articles be only about BYU and all comments on Utah articles be only about Utah.

    Otherwise, an argument ALWAYS pursues and nothing positive happens... ever!

  • Carnak Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 7, 2014 11:12 a.m.

    talkinsports
    Gilbert, AZ

    Nice try. UCLA was ranked when Utah beat them.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    Feb. 7, 2014 11:21 a.m.

    Nobody knows the answer to my question up above?

    I'm seriously in total suspense right now! I'll admit and give credit where credit's due, as beating Santa Clara is a resume-builder, indeed....Yet, I respectfully request somebody significantly more knowledgeable on the topic than I am to mercifully give to me its answer!

    OK, here we go again--

    "When was the last time byu beat a team which was ranked at the time they played?"

    Of course, since this article is solely about byu basketball, naturally my question is equally about byu basketball only....Also, it requires no additional stats to be researched/presented, either.

    Thanks in advance!

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    Feb. 7, 2014 11:24 a.m.

    Tators--

    "It took only the 2nd comment to this strictly BYU article for you to bring Utah into an off-topic dialog and start the back and forth bantering again."

    Not true....I spoke merely of byu basketball, the subject of this article, and nothing otherwise, whatsoever!

  • moderateinmagna MAGNA, UT
    Feb. 7, 2014 12:02 p.m.

    AZUTE1
    Mesa, AZ yes you spoke only of BYU basketball but your comments had nothing to do with the game that was played you always put negativity about BYU in your comments ,so unless you have something positive to say it might just be better for you to say nothing.Your comments were off topic

  • Cougarista Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 7, 2014 12:04 p.m.

    Strangely, this article is about exactly what the headline stated - Tyler Haws and BYU vs. Santa Clara. Perhaps in Mesa, AZ it was interpreted as a question about BYU basketball history, which could have been answered with a little research. Nice game, Cougars.

  • No playoff for U Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 7, 2014 12:26 p.m.

    AZUTE1

    Nobody cares about the answer to your contrived question; the only thing that's important now is BYU has beaten a ranked team THIS YEAR and Utah hasn't.

    As far as Santa Clara being a resume builder for BYU... #213 Santa Clara is certainly more of a resume builder for BYU than 9 of Utah's 13 Div 1 wins were for the Utes:

    #323 UC Davis, #226 Grand Canyon, #346 Lamar, #313 Savannah State, #298 Ball State, #279 Idaho State, and #280 Texas State

    Keep trying; you're just making the Utes look even more desperate for some sort of relevance after killing their chances for an NCAA berth before the season even began.

  • Objectified Tooele, UT
    Feb. 7, 2014 1:09 p.m.

    AZUTE1:

    Assuming your interest is somehow now genuine in BYU basketball (apparently very few can remember when it last was), the last time they beat a ranked team was February 2, 2012 when they beat Gonzaga, and by double digits.

    FYI:
    They played only 1 ranked team last season, so not much opportunity.

    They lost to ranked Iowa State by only 2 points this season, after being ahead most of that game. A heart-breaker.

    The lost to ranked UMass on the road by single digits this season in another very competitive game.

    Soon after,they lost to ranked Oregon (at Oregon) in overtime. Another hear-breaker.

    Obviously, they've been consistently very competitive against ranked teams this season, but haven't yet figured out how to finish them off at the end of those games. Very close, but still not quite.

    And now in return, please tell us when was the last time the Ute men's b-ball team beat a ranked team. Thanks in advance.

  • Carnak Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 7, 2014 1:21 p.m.

    No playoff for U
    Salt Lake City, UT

    Evidently your friend talkinsports from Gilbert, AZ cares since he is the one who brought it up. I was just trying to correct his uninformed comment.

    Perhaps a re-reading of talkinsports post would be helpful.

  • CougarSunDevil Phoenix, AZ
    Feb. 7, 2014 1:35 p.m.

    "And now in return, please tell us when was the last time the Ute men's b-ball team beat a ranked team. Thanks in advance."

    It was UCLA this year. UCLA has fell out of the rankings soon thereafter and have not reemerged.

    But really, who cares if anyone beats a ranked team when and why. One game does not make a season.

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    Feb. 7, 2014 2:08 p.m.

    Carnak

    "Evidently your friend talkinsports from Gilbert, AZ cares since he is the one who brought it up."

    Nope! It was AZUTE1 who brought it up (comment since deleted).

    Regardless, the following facts remain:

    BYU has beaten a currently ranked team and has a PAC 12 road win this season.

    Utah is winless (0-1) versus currently ranked teams and winless (0-6) away from the HC this season.

  • Objectified Tooele, UT
    Feb. 7, 2014 2:18 p.m.

    @ CougarSunDevil:

    Apparently, AZUTE1 cares about such things. His question (and reiterated) opened the topic and for reasons that only he knows.

    But since you're so accommodating, and just for trivia fun, please tell us when Utah last beat a ranked team BEFORE the UCLA game a short time ago.

  • Down under Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 7, 2014 2:39 p.m.

    Anyone read the article about u's win and not a single BYU fan show up with negative comments and yet on a BYU article the u fans show up to put the Cougars down at any opportunity?

  • CougarSunDevil Phoenix, AZ
    Feb. 7, 2014 2:56 p.m.

    Objectified

    "But since you're so accommodating, and just for trivia fun, please tell us when Utah last beat a ranked team BEFORE the UCLA game a short time ago."

    Sorry, I can think of about 1 million things that I'd rather do with my time than to try and figure out how long ago Utah defeated a ranked team. I'm not a Utah fan and I don't follow them unless they are playing one of my teams or I read a comment that is too outlandish and I have to say something. Other than that, I care about BYU and ASU. However, if it's really important to you or others, I know Yahoo, most college websites, and some other fan sites would be great resources for you to find out these type of Jeopardy! facts. I wish you the very best and hope you find what you're looking for.

    Love from the Desert!

    It's currently 65 degrees here! (76 by Sunday. I'd say we're trending up).

  • Carnak Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 7, 2014 3:06 p.m.

    SportsFan
    Orem, UT

    ... and Utah beat BYU by 17 and it wasn't that close.

    Your point?

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Feb. 7, 2014 3:13 p.m.

    "#213 Santa Clara is certainly more of a resume builder for BYU than 9 of Utah's 13 Div 1 wins"

    Noplayoff: There you go again, comparing apples to oranges. Let's see if we can get some clarity, using that most-beloved tool for cougar fans this BB season.

    Before last night's games, BYU's RPI was #41, with a #12 SOS. Utah's RPI was #110, with a #171 RPI. This morning, the daily updated RPI on ESPN lists BYU at #45/#22 and Utah at #98/#160.

    So, in one night, BYU's win netted them -4 RPI and -10 SOS, while Utah's win netted them a +12 RPI and +11 SOS. Such are the facts of life as conference play progresses in strong conferences and weak conferences.

    Cougar fans better get their wild spin in quick, because the last shred of misplaced pride, clung to after losing to the Utes by 17, will be gone by March.

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Feb. 7, 2014 3:19 p.m.

    "tell us when Utah last beat a ranked team BEFORE the UCLA game "

    object:

    That would be last season, 72-62 over #19 Oregon.

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Feb. 7, 2014 3:28 p.m.

    "Anyone read the article about u's win and not a single BYU fan show up with negative comments . . .?

    Down under:

    Evidently you missed Cincy's reference to "all of Utah's cupcake wins"; RenoCoug's "Byu is second in the WCC and has more wins then Utah"; Oldnotstupid's "Does ANYONE believe that Utah will be one of "the 6 PAC-12 teams" invited to the big dance?"; CFIT's "if Utah played BYU in the MC BYU would win and this would prove that the Cougs are the better team"; and SamoanYfans' hilarious imitation of Chris B.

  • CougarSunDevil Phoenix, AZ
    Feb. 7, 2014 3:58 p.m.

    JohnInSLC

    "...the daily updated RPI on ESPN lists...Utah at #98 (RPI)/#160 (SOS).Utah's win netted them a +12 RPI and +11 SOS."

    Never in my life did I think I'd hear someone brag about a team that is sitting at 98 RPI and 160 SOS and be so proud of it. I think I'm going to have to petition ASU to do a recall on their vote to have Utah join the PAC-12 if this is the PAC 12 Heights Utah wants to achieve.

  • souptwins Lindon, UT
    Feb. 7, 2014 4:07 p.m.

    I can spit further than any of you--- so there! Sure can't tell there are any adults on this board today.
    Actually, this win, while a well played game, makes me somewhat nervous. Last year SF beats us pretty good at the MC and this game didn't really test our guys. It's great to see Mika back to his pre-injury form the last couple games with an especially good showing last night. That's hopeful. Need to be prepared to guard the 3 pt. line well and stay active on both D and in passing the ball on O. Still like to see more production from the bench. Carlino has been off and I'm not quite sure why-- he was really lighting it up off the bench there for awhile. The crowd needs to be rocking on Sat. Go Coug's!

  • Tom in Tooele Franklin, IN
    Feb. 7, 2014 4:22 p.m.

    Awesome win over #187 Santa Clara. Final Four baby...Final Four...

  • Down under Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 7, 2014 5:18 p.m.

    JohnInSLC,
    No I was reading the article on Loveridge. By the way, I can't wait until u goes on the road to build up their SOS and RPI. In the immortal words o CB...LOL.

  • Ute buster Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 7, 2014 5:25 p.m.

    So the u is #98 and #160 and BYU is #45 and #22. As I recall there are 64 teams invited to the big dance. Hmmmm..............

    Does anyone think the NCAA will come calling to anywhere but Provo? Me thinks not.

  • CougarSunDevil Phoenix, AZ
    Feb. 7, 2014 5:52 p.m.

    souptwins

    "Sure can't tell there are any adults on this board today."

    Yeah, that's not condescending to anyone.

  • Down under Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 7, 2014 5:59 p.m.

    Tom in Tooele
    Awesome win over #187 Santa Clara. Final Four baby...Final Four...

    Tom in Tooele, Thank you for your encouraging support of BYU. May I also send my hearty congratulations on your victory over #280 Texas State, #298 Ball State, #313 Savannah State, #356 Lamar, #323 UC Davis, and all of the sub #352 Evergreen State, St Katherine's College, and Grand Canyon. Final Four Baby.

  • Tom in Tooele Franklin, IN
    Feb. 8, 2014 6:27 a.m.

    Throw another shrimp on the barbie my good man DU...

    We can celebrate the wins over Prairie View and Mesa College...and I won't say a word about loses to Loyola, Pepperdine, the Pesky Pilots or them bloody blokes I up in Salt Lake.

    Just keep beating the conferences foes! After #23 gonzo the WCC are #88 thru #343...now that's some basketball Skipper...

    Any truth to the rumor ya'll go independent in hoops so you can schedule Lone Peak and the Globetrotters

  • moderateinmagna MAGNA, UT
    Feb. 9, 2014 12:39 a.m.

    Carnak
    Salt Lake City, UT
    SportsFan
    Orem, UT

    ... and Utah beat BYU by 17 and it wasn't that close.

    Your point? yes for only the second time in about 20 games the last win before this year was in the majerus years so your point is moot,NEXT