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UteLinks: Ole Miss or Utah? USA Today examines the D.J. Law situation

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  • MurrayMike Murray, UT
    Feb. 6, 2014 11:18 a.m.

    Huh....utes recruits are like their o.c's can't decide where they're going next year...

  • nhatch82 Eagle Mountain, UT
    Feb. 6, 2014 11:33 a.m.

    uhhhh maybe this is why academically he won't be eligible. You can only play for one team buddy.

  • UteNationAlum Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Feb. 6, 2014 12:28 p.m.

    I read an article that said his family did not want him to come to the U and wanted him very badly to go to Ole Miss. Some believed that his family may have faxed in the commitment letter to Ole Miss to try and force him to go there.

    Just rumors, but if that really did happen, what terrible support from his family members!!!

  • UteNationAlum Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Feb. 6, 2014 12:37 p.m.

    Whatever happened though, it's great to have him at the U!

  • Sports Are Great Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 6, 2014 1:03 p.m.

    @UteNation - if his family behind his back faxed a NLI in, thats certainly another story. Will be curious to hear if thats what really happened, although I dont know that him simply saying that would prove that, as he clearly has some issues. But with all his struggles I'd say he fits in very well at the U. Good to know he's figured out the cute little U sign. He just needs a stack of Pac 12 stickers and he'll be set.

    Are there really people who dont qualify academically at Utah?

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    Feb. 6, 2014 2:45 p.m.

    It sounds like he won't qualify academically anyway, and that was part of the confusion in his signing with a junior college. What a weird situation. If his family went behind his back that is just despicable. One thing is for certain, he looks like a great player...3 star for scout and rivals, 4 star on ESPN.

  • truthsandwich RANDOLPH, UT
    Feb. 6, 2014 2:56 p.m.

    @cougsndawgs

    Yeah from what I've read this may be a non issue as he will likely end up at a JC. Too bad, he sounds like a solid player.

  • Chewbacca Magna, UT
    Feb. 6, 2014 3:39 p.m.

    Sports Are Great- Yes, there really are people who don't qualify at the U. The same ones who don't qualify at BYU and every other D-1 institution in the NCAA. I know you think your schools standards are higher, but it just depends how bad they want the athlete. BYU's standards are flexible. Shocker.

  • Elmer Fudd Sandy, Utah
    Feb. 6, 2014 4:31 p.m.

    @ Sports Are Great

    "Good to know he's figured out the cute little U sign. He just needs a stack of Pac 12 stickers and he'll be set"

    I didn't know you were big into stickers? I bet you have quite a nice sticker collection yourself. Do you have stickers of a stick figure family on the back of your mini van?

    Law will look good in Red. I hope all this gets sorted out and he play at the U. He'll be great addition to our team.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    Feb. 6, 2014 5:48 p.m.

    Utah coaches will work hard to help him get him qualified, he just has to do the work. Look what they did with Pita Taumoepenu. We'll see how badly he wants to play this year by the effort he puts in to getting qualified.

    Glad to see Coach Freeze do the right thing and release him from the alleged OM LOI. It doesn't sound like he was too interested in helping Hill get qualified.

    Hill wants to be a Ute, that's where his heart is. He will do great on the hill!

    Go Utes!!

  • eric2002x Miami, FL
    Feb. 6, 2014 6:44 p.m.

    For anyone who thinks that U sign is for Utah, everyone in Florida knows it is for "THE U" which is the University of Miami Hurricanes. They've been doing it since the 80's when they won all those National Championships (80-90's), before Utah learned how to say "bowl game". Good luck Utes.

  • MyPerspective Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 6, 2014 9:42 p.m.

    Good luck to this young man as he pursues his dreams at the University of Utah. Major props to Ole Miss for recognizing and taking the appropriate action.

    Welcome to the University of Utah, Mr. Law!

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    Feb. 7, 2014 5:33 a.m.

    eric2002x

    Reality is we were doing the same, identical thing back in the 1800s, nearly 1/2 Century before U of M even came into existence.

    Speaking of bowl games, congrats on making one in '13 after missing out in '11/''12....At least Miami plays against a SOS more comparable to ours and not one a coward would choose, one w/built-in Ws/weeks-off/breathers, one which ultimately provides the easier, softer route toward virtually guaranteed bowl-eligibility, thus enabling the perpetuation of a fraudulent image of reality when one's W/L record is viewed by people such as East Coast voters, for instance....It's never about reality, but rather about a specific image, cloaked in deceit, to be carefully portrayed in order to fool the unsuspecting!

    Yet, as a byu fan, U already knew all of this, didn't U?

  • R.A.W St George, Utah
    Feb. 7, 2014 10:04 a.m.

    AZUTE1

    Not sure you should be making comments about reality and then go on and distort reality in the same comment.

    Sagarin:
    Miami #56 SOS BYU #38 SOS

    Was BYU's schedule as tough as Utah's? No. But saying it is a cowards schedule is just plain delusional. BYU had a top 25 schedule most of the season, and ended ranked ahead of teams like Florida St., Alabama, Michigan St. to name a few. So you destroyed all credibility of your own statement.

    Give credit where it is due. BYU has done a phenomenal job scheduling good competition since going independent. Any patsies on the schedule is not by choice, but by necessity to fill a slot. And if you take the time to do some research, the schedules only get better for BYU with teams like Nebraska, USC, Stanford, Michigan, West Virginia, and Notre Dame on the bill.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    Feb. 7, 2014 10:34 a.m.

    raw--

    I pointed to multiple years for Miami, yet you merely reference this last year's SOS rankings only.

    In '12--

    byu #63
    Miami #43
    U #41

    '11--

    byu #90
    Miami #61
    U #49

    '10--

    byu #55
    Miami #16
    U #50

    Avg.--

    byu #62
    Miami #44
    U #35

    I'll explain the cowardice in byu's scheduling differently/comparatively.

    They avoid like the plague scheduling toughest games back-to-back and, instead, deliberately schedule bye-weeks/breathers....The very thing they run away from is routine w/any power conference schedule....It's the week-in/week-out grind of a schedule which continues to elude byu fan in order to see why our SOS ranked 35 spots ahead of theirs....In fact, every single PAC-12 school's SOS ranking finished higher than byu's.

    As a real/legitimate competitor, I inherently seek-out the greatest challenge possible in life, along w/its inherent greatest potential reward....This mentality of the byu ad is foreign/utterly mind-boggling to me, as I wasn't raised w/in such an environment.

    Imagine for byu in '13, instead--

    OSU/AT U/UCLA/STANFORD/AT UA/AT USC/ASU/AT UO/AT WAZZU = WINLESS!

  • Adirondack Cougar Loon Lake, NY
    Feb. 7, 2014 10:38 a.m.

    Do you really believe D.J. Law will play at the U? Unlikely, he is JC bound. If you subtract D.J. from this class what does that do to this year's recruiting rank? Maybe the Y should try this strategy to pump up the numbers.

  • Ed Grady Idaho Falls, ID
    Feb. 7, 2014 10:54 a.m.

    What a fiasco. This makes the Jake Heaps presser look tame. Good luck with this guy.

  • MyPerspective Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 7, 2014 11:03 a.m.

    Sports Are Great
    Salt Lake City, UT

    "Good to know he's figured out the cute little U sign. He just needs a stack of Pac 12 stickers and he'll be set."

    I've noticed that you are really annoyed by the Pac-12 logo and ease with which Utah athletes can flash the "U" sign. The "U" sign is flashed by every Utah gymnast during every floor exercise. Football and basketball players spontaneously flash the "U" at appropriate times. Very fun to watch and to be a part of. You have no idea what you are missing. Your complaints lead me to believe you feel left out. Here's a suggestion...

    Get the music video "YMCA" by the Village People. They will show you how to make a "Y" so you can stop obsessing over that which you currently do not have. The Village People are the key to easing your frustrations.

    Now, with respect to the logo...you are on your own, there. You bought into what Holmoe was selling and you will have to deal with result.

  • Ed Grady Idaho Falls, ID
    Feb. 7, 2014 11:05 a.m.

    Give the kid a break. It's a tough choice whether to play for a bad team in the PAC-12 or a bad team in the SEC.

  • R.A.W St George, Utah
    Feb. 7, 2014 11:16 a.m.

    AZUTE1,

    So when Alabama schedules BYE weeks before playing Texas A&M and LSU that is cowardice?

    Some would argue that is strategy.

    And as far as the week in and week out grind "eluding" BYU fans, any objective or intelligent party would recognize the difficulties of scheduling tough competition in Independence, especially in October and November. BYU has been extremely aggressive in going after game contracts with the elites of College football. A coward does not schedule games with Texas, Notre Dame, Wisconsin, Stanford, Nebraska, and USC. Take off you blinders my friend.

    Also keep in mind that elite programs schedule their out of conference games 4-6 years in advance. BYU's SOS will continue to improve each season as an Independent. You can mark that down.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    Feb. 7, 2014 11:59 a.m.

    raw--

    "So when Alabama schedules BYE weeks before playing Texas A&M and LSU that is cowardice?"

    Are you referencing the same bye-week allotted LSU before Alabama, too? Not unlike our bye-week prior to UCLA in '13, as UCLA had identical bye-week we did, as well....Therefore, zero advantage [although it did humor me that all three [Idaho = bye-week] deliberately placed bye-weeks for byu resulted in Ls].

    No, when their conference schedules these byes, they do the same for all conference members and the remainder of their conference is precisely this week-in/week-out grind of a schedule I reference, although the sec wasn't quite as ambitious in challenging themselves as we naturally do in The PAC-12 [which finished year as #1 toughest conference overall, from top-to-bottom], as they were byu-like in deliberately including some cupcakes sprinkled-in, too....Yet, last year wasn't normal for byu--They go back to a softer, more familiar SOS [even though #38 wasn't anything special, mind you!]

    Honestly, I'm uncertain why you're attempting to debate what's inherently non-debatable, per my numbers?

    Play listed teams B-2-B, instead!

  • MyPerspective Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 7, 2014 12:44 p.m.

    R.A.W
    St George, Utah

    "BYU has done a phenomenal job scheduling good competition since going independent. Any patsies on the schedule is not by choice, but by necessity to fill a slot. And if you take the time to do some research, the schedules only get better for BYU with teams like Nebraska, USC, Stanford, Michigan, West Virginia, and Notre Dame on the bill."

    LOL! You are fooling only yourself. The teams you list are 2 for 1 deals that will take 10 (ten) years to complete and Michigan is a one and done. byu's 2014 schedule is as compelling as their first year in the independence experiment. Again, you are fooling no one but yourself. However, if it looks great to you...have at it.

    The Des News finally caught up with the news that J.D. Law was released from his commitment to Ole Miss. Welcome to Utah, young man!

  • R.A.W St George, Utah
    Feb. 7, 2014 12:49 p.m.

    AZUTE1

    So why didn't Texas A&M have a BYE before facing Alabama? You are running in circles here my friend. Those BYE's were placed there because Alabama saw both A&M and LSU as games that needed special attention. Just as BYU scheduled BYE's before Utah and Wisconsin. But when BYU does it, it's due to cowardice? Little bit of a double standard.

    The reality of being Independent and not belonging to an elite conference is that scheduling does not allow for a top opponent in consecutive weeks. But there is nothing cowardice about the way BYU is scheduling opponents. I am not debating that the PAC-12 is a tough conference and that the U has a much tougher grind than BYU, that is non-debatable. Utah is in a conference that automatically gives you 8 quality opponents. BYU does not have that luxury.

    But claiming that BYU plays a cowards schedule is not accurate. The cupcakes on the schedule are for the most part in November, which is directly due to both conference scheduling and rivalry week keeping quality teams from playing BYU. BYU has made it clear they are willing to play anybody.

  • MyPerspective Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 7, 2014 1:34 p.m.

    R.A.W
    St George, Utah

    Excuses. Don't forget about the magic uniforms byu ginned up for the Utah game.

    "The reality of being Independent and not belonging to an elite conference is that scheduling does not allow for a top opponent in consecutive weeks."

    Yeah, isn't that convenient.

    "But there is nothing cowardice about the way BYU is scheduling opponents."

    Right. Holmoe is going out of his way to schedule the worst teams in the BCS conferences to make it appear that byu is competitive. Two observations...

    1. It's too bad that byu can't even get past Utah
    2. Holmoe's smoke are mirrors will fool no one but byu fans

    Give it a rest, R.A.W

  • BeSmart Cheyenne, WY
    Feb. 7, 2014 2:17 p.m.

    MyPerspective
    Stanford is a four game series home and home.
    West Virginia is a one game contract at an NFL stadium signed by ESPN.
    Cal is a home and home
    Wisconsin contract was negotiated after this years meeting was scheduled by espn
    technically a home and home
    Arizona is a home and home
    Virginia is a home and home
    Michigan is a one gamer in Ann Arbor
    USC is a 2 for 1
    Notre Dame was a 2 for 1.
    Nebraska 1 game
    So 4 of BYUs many contracts are 2 for 1
    Other than that it is 1 for 1
    Those 4 games are 4 of the premier teams in college football 5 if you include texas.
    But even the Pac-12 champ did a 2 for 2.
    Kind of funny that DJ Law was released by Ole Miss, check out espn comments Utah is getting mocked.

  • R.A.W St George, Utah
    Feb. 7, 2014 2:31 p.m.

    MyPerspective

    Insecurity on the hill is at an all-time high.

    I have not written one word of negativity about Utah. I have even complimented them on their membership to an elite conference and playing such a challenging schedule. But your perspective about BYU and the scheduling is clearly wrong. Scheduling top competition is difficult because most teams in BCS conferences already play a challenging schedule and don't want to add a potential upset to the schedule (See Utah dropping BYU for 2014-15). And as I already pointed out, most of the elite schools have their out of conference schedule set years in advance.

    "Right. Holmoe is going out of his way to schedule the worst teams in the BCS conferences to make it appear that byu is competitive...."

    So what your saying is Texas, Wisconsin, USC, Stanford, Nebraska, Notre Dame, and Michigan are all conference bottom feeders?...Do you even watch sports my friend?

  • R.A.W St George, Utah
    Feb. 7, 2014 2:58 p.m.

    MyPerspective

    Was that really necessary?

    I have not written one word of negativity about Utah. I have even complimented them on their membership to an elite conference and playing such a challenging schedule. But your perspective about BYU and the scheduling is clearly wrong. Scheduling top competition is difficult because most teams in BCS conferences already play a challenging schedule and don't want to add a potential upset (See Utah dropping BYU for 2014-15). And as I already pointed out, most of the elite schools have their out of conference schedule set years in advance.

    "Right. Holmoe is going out of his way to schedule the worst teams in the BCS conferences to make it appear that byu is competitive...."

    So what your saying is Texas, Wisconsin, USC, Stanford, Nebraska, Notre Dame, and Michigan are all conference bottom feeders?...Do you even watch sports my friend?

  • Protecting This House Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 7, 2014 3:06 p.m.

    @eric2002x

    Being a Miami resident, it's unfortunate you don't even know the difference between Miami's U sign, and Utah's U sign. Let me break it down for you: Miami U is thumbs together, ALL FINGERS extended, like giving someone two high-fives and joining the thumbs. Utah U is thumbs together, INDEX FINGERS ONLY extended. It's easy to miss, hope that helps. (Because we wouldn't want your Florida buddies to think you're rooting for Utah, instead of your Canes!)

  • MyPerspective Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 7, 2014 3:37 p.m.

    BeSmart
    Cheyenne, WY

    "Arizona is a home and home"

    Not true. Arizona is a two for one with one game being at a neutral site...in Arizona. Keep bragging up the Virginia game, they are a fierce competitor for the cougs. Wisconsin, "technically a home and home"? Nice try. Based on your own phrasing, it's clear that even you don't believe what you are saying.

    While I appreciate the money flowing into the Utah football program courtesy of ESPN, I don't spend time navigating or paying much attention to ESPN. That said, I went to ESPN and found this regarding Dacorius Law..."

    "[Law] was going to Utah and Ole' Miss turned up the heat on him...there was a lot of confusion....you have to trust the kid's word and trust that the NLI is legitimate. Both complaince Depts at Utah and Ole' Miss will take a look at this. All indications are that they have done nothing wrong."

    So tell me, BeSmart, what is it about those comments from ESPN that is "mocking" Utah?

  • MyPerspective Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 7, 2014 5:11 p.m.

    R.A.W

    You are correct, R.A.W, I should have toned it down a notch or two. What I'm struggling with about your comments is this...

    "So what your saying is Texas, Wisconsin, USC, Stanford, Nebraska, Notre Dame, and Michigan are all conference bottom feeders?...Do you even watch sports my friend?"

    All great teams, no question. However, you are very selective in the teams you choose to list. Moreover, you string these teams together as though it is all one season. Good grief, Utah St. plays teams like this over the same period time. Apart from a very few home games with these teams, what has byu really accomplished?

    Let me ask you something, R.A.W...do you like byu being independent? It's a yes/no question (none of this..."well, it's the best option they have"). Do you like byu being independent and are you looking forward to the 2014 Holmoe has lined up? Yes, or no.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    Feb. 7, 2014 6:20 p.m.

    raw--

    "So why didn't Texas A&M have a BYE before facing Alabama? You are running in circles here my friend. Those BYE's were placed there because Alabama saw both A&M and LSU as games that needed special attention. Just as BYU scheduled BYE's before Utah and Wisconsin. But when BYU does it, it's due to cowardice? Little bit of a double standard. "

    Wow! Apples-2-Oranges....TAMU game scheduled early, mixed into primary portion of OOC, thus inherently providing flexibility....What's not registering for you is that the conference, itself, creates the conf portion of members' schedule, including both PAC-12/SEC, whereas members coordinate respective OOC, themselves.

    Your "diversion" isn't remotely comparable to byu's deliberate/careful construction of their schedule, blatantly obvious to everybody existing outside of ut cty.

    It extends beyond the bye-weeks and, before having knowledge regarding usu's CK/how distantly removed from glory years bsu would be, into scheduling MTSU at home preceding usu/UH before bsu....Not to mention a GT team bm knew schematically was right down his alley of expertise, thus a virtually guaranteed W for them....Zero indicating courage!

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    Feb. 7, 2014 7:23 p.m.

    raw--

    "So what your saying is Texas, Wisconsin, USC, Stanford, Nebraska, Notre Dame, and Michigan are all conference bottom feeders?...Do you even watch sports my friend?"

    How many of these, if any whatsoever, are scheduled B-2-B? Prime-illustration of byu ad's strategy -- Late-portion of '14 schedule has MTSU on 11/01, Bye-Week, UNLV at home, Savannah State at home followed by strategically hitting the road to play against '13 PAC-12 winless/last-place finisher CAL....How bad was CAL? < bottom-feeding/byu-beating UVA, which at least managed [1] W over FBS team [byu], in addition to beating a FCS bottom-feeder at home....CAL's sole W came at home against Portland State, 37-30....PSU finished 9th/13 total Big Sky Conf schools.

    The impression of stepping up to plate, challenge-wise, is what's desired....In reality, the easier/softer path to bowl-eligibility/padding one's W-column is the end-goal....In support, I've provided into evidence only inherently irrefutable facts....Finally, I meant Idaho State earlier, not Idaho, the former typically much easier competition.

  • CO Ute PARKER, CO
    Feb. 7, 2014 8:03 p.m.

    @R.A.W. regarding BYU's schedule. BYU has certainly improved their schedule recently but don't go overboard. For every Nebraska game there is a game against Idaho State. Next year your home schedule includes Virginia, Houston, USU, Nevada, UNLV, and capped by a game against Savannah St.

    The teams from better conferences are Virginia 0-8 in ACC play, UConn 3-5 in AA play, and Cal 0-9 in PAC 12. Texas is the only big name team on the schedule that had a decent record. Hard to argue that this is an improved schedule.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Feb. 8, 2014 9:33 a.m.

    Interesting the ole miss knew this kid couldn't qualify academically at their institution so they went ahead and cut him loose because he can qualify at a pac12 institution that is supposedly a top academic school. When a kid can't qualify to an sec school, but he can qualify at a pac12 school, then something is not what its "fans" claim it is.