Great article. They clearly have a unique perspective on the subject and it is
interesting to read it.
"He and his wife are struck by how many people seem to believe that the
world is getting worse, he writes. “By almost any measure, the world is
better than it has ever been,” writes Gates"One reason
that many people believe that the world is getting worse is that many aid
organizations have a vested interest in keeping that perception alive. "You
need to donate to our cause", whatever it is, "because things are
getting worse and its a desperate crisis".
Thank you Bill and Melinda for once again leading out with data, information and
perspective based upon facts! This type of information can help us move forward
quickly, and effectively, in supporting international development. Africa is an
amazing example of great progress. Yes, there is much still to be done, but its
incredible progress needs to be highlighted so others can be motivated by it,
and the progress will accelerate.Now if they would just publish
statistics on how the poor in America move up in the ranks and make progress out
of poverty! Those stats are hidden from us because there are powerful interests
that rely upon the false perception that poverty in America is rising. While
overall numbers MAY be rising (but probably are not), the important numbers to
look at are the individual statistics of how long people REMAIN in poverty in
America - not overall how many people are IN poverty.America's
powerful economic machine provides opportunities to move people out of poverty,
which is why we are so attractive to immigrants. It is a very efficient
process. We need more data reported that reflects this truth.
its america that the middle and lower classes are getting poorer by sending our
jobs to other countries. bill clintion and congress, and the george bush and
congress. tax breaks for companies to invest over seas. bill gates is richer.
and the middle class is pooer, in the us.
What the article didn't discuss was political corruption in poor countries.
Look at Zimbabwe. It was up and coming, getting richer. Then Mugabe took over,
and ran the country into the ground, and as a dictator, no one seemed to be able
to stop him. Look at the starving masses in N. Korea. It certainly doesn't
have to be that way, but as long as the Dear Leaders are in charge, it will be.
So until we can eradicate dictatorships, poverty will be with us.
Just imagine the United States of Africa. That continent is very rich in
resources and people. If they could unite, as we in the U.S.A. did, then it
would bode well for all who live there. As RG pointed out though, political
corruption is still a huge factor in causing poverty in those 3rd world
countries. I do like the optimism of Bill and Melinda though. It is easy to
always see the glass as only half full. Hope they turn out to be right.
Poverty will be eliminated because the yardstick for poverty, America, has
started to decline. Soon, with debt, government corruption and a deviation from
the free market system America will more represent 3rd world contires. The bar
will have been lowered and Shazam! everyone lives in poverty thus poverty
becomes the norm.
Poverty will only expand if the big-government liberals have their way. Their
policies have actually limited prosperity and created more income inequality.
The "hot money" policies of the "Fed" caused the stock market to
rage last year, which benefited those with lots of money in the stock market.
Meanwhile, those who get most of their money through employment or small
businesses saw things shrivel due to more regulation, taxation, and invasion
from outside the country. The great "War on Poverty" has been
resoundingly lost by the very philosophies that created it.
Did i miss something? He actually didnt put forth any numbers or models, just
the fact that poverty has decreased in some places. where does this year 2035
number come from? and what variables is he taking into account. id love to be
all optimistic, but he seems to be missing a large part of the global poverty
picture like already mentioned; political instability and extreme weather (which
will most significantly impact poor people in warm regions.) Id also like a
clearer picture of what the distribution of wealth is in nations with strong
economies. In our country alone there are 46 million people living in poverty.
Is there an economist in the world that agrees with them?
and this was left out. "Put simply, Gates believes improving health is one
of the most powerful – maybe the most powerful – means of fighting
poverty. And he’s backed up by data." As The Guardian noted in its
story on this report, published in The Lancet in early December, Jamison,
Summers and their team of two dozen other experts determined that key health
investments in low- and middle-income countries could, if done right, contribute
to 25 percent of economic growth. and a wealthy country does not necessarily
translate to wealthy citizens overall; he ignores wealth inequality.
'The poor will always be with us.' I'm sure many of you have
heard this expression. I believe it is so, but it is our moral duty to help our
family, friends, and neighbors if we can. If only by service if we don't
have much money ourselves.
I wish that this could be true. Simply having a country with sufficient means
does not guarantee that poverty will be eliminated. I don't think Mr.
Gates understands that there are many different tiers and factors that
contribute to poverty. Take South Africa, for example. Racism and violence
definitely hold many down in poverty. What about severe mental illness? What
about corruption and war? What about addiction? I think that if Bill Gates
would live in poverty for one year, he would realize that answers and solutions
are not as simple as he puts forth.
Interesting article with a lot of good points. Overall I think Gates is right.
Poverty is improving meaning there is less of it around the world. Still I think
there are a couple of questions that need to be asked or points brought out that
he missed. 1. The income gap or the gap between the top and the bottom of the
wage scale. It's widening and will that have an impact when people are
being shut out of economic gain in terms of their ability to get to the top. 2.
Why is it that in the United States the wages of the lower and middle class have
either stayed the same or declined in buying power while those in the top 10%
have risen substantially and will that have an impact on the discussion. I don't think it's enough to say we have overcome poverty when
we get to a certain number. We need to change attitudes as well and work towards
greater equality so we can truly utilize the talents of all people.
LET ME REEL ALL OF THIS BACK IN.A wealthy man is giving away more of
his money every single day than some make in a lifetime. He's optimistic
about the good that is being done. I am sure HE'S seen some of it first
hand. So for the naysayers out there or the people that find a way to blame
politics/politicians for the poor way the system is being run...Talk to the mom
who's child just received a life saving vaccine, hold that tiny little baby
in your arms for a moment in your mind, who cares what country she lives in,
talk to the husband who was watching his wife die right in front of him and his
children when a doctor showed up with donated medicine that would save her
life. See if they care about politics. Don't criticize or look
for defects in the system. Don't complain because you feel like his money
could be better spent. Be grateful that at least something is being done
somewhere to make someones life better. Or perhaps even saving their life. What
if it was you?
Well, bill, I hope you're right. Poverty exists where there is corruption,
war and oppression. You're betting on these being eliminated in 21 years.
So good to read some optimistic comments from the richest person in the world.
Bill Gates is amazing. I believe that he believes what he writes is true, and
very hopefully, he is right.
I really respect Bill and Melinda Gates, but the only way this will be true in
America is if all the poor die. We are doing nothing in this country to help
the poor and/or uneducated to excel. They have given up hope. But a really
great idea. Wish it were so.
What a misleading headline!Nowhere in the article does it say there
will be no poor, just that Gates believes the poor countries are getting
wealthier. nowhere does it talk about individuals.Someone who is
MUCH wiser than Mr. Gates and who sacrificed much more than Mr. Gates said the
poor we would always have with us. I believe Him more than Mr. Gates. I respect Bill for his philanthropic work, and am in no way condeming
anything he said, and hope the term "third world" CAN be eliminated by
2035. But as has been said already, corruption will need to be curtailed before
that can occur. Unfortunately corruption is INCREASING rather than decreasing.
Don't let the "income inequality people" hear this. They would
have to stop raising taxes and growing government and CNBC would go out of
business.One can always dream...
This article whets my appetite for the full text and any supporting information,
including all of the myths mentioned.
I appreciate the optimism in Mr. Gates' assessment, and I want to highlight
the fact that, in many ways, the world -is- in much better shape than it ever
has been in before. There is greater access to conveniences, food, shelter,
communication, and travel for everyone in the world than ever before. In the
United States especially, even the "dirt-poor" living off government
handouts live lives that the poor of many other nations dream of....
But "ending poverty by 2035" just isn't going to happen, unless
Jesus comes to prove me wrong. Poverty is a constant of human history,
it's not going to end any more than violence or persecution or social
classes. In fact, with the increasing push to give centralized government power
and resources, rather than the people, it's going to get worse later on as
the developed nations that pioneer so much aid and technology lose their
Is 2035 the year when the Millennum arrives? Or is Bill Gates and his pals going
to empty their wallets.
I'll believe Bill and Melinda Gates pronouncements once they have given
away all their money and live on the average annual American income of $50,000
To end poverty, you would also have to put an end to laziness, stupidity,
immaturity, irresponsible behavior, etc. etc. etc. There's no eradicating
something which is fueled by the human element, human flaws, human shortcomings.
Nice thought, Bill, but it ain't happening.
Hutterite said: Well, bill, I hope you're right. Poverty exists where there
is corruption, war and oppression. You're betting on these being eliminated
in 21 years.Can't believe the day has come, but I am in
agreement with Hutterite on something.If we can't get rid of
corruption and those contributing to keeping people in poverty by now, how can
he think we can by 2035?I would love love for Bill to be right and
for me to be wrong.
One thing not mentioned is that many people in society are simply lazy and are
content to live in poverty. They enjoy having society take care of them. Many
wouldn't take a job even if it was set right in their laps. Someone once pointed out that if all the money in the world was somehow
redistributed equally, within 5 years the rich would again be rich and the poor
would soon be poor again. It's because of the difference in human nature of
people. There might be less poverty in 2035, but it will never be
eliminated in the foreseeable future. It has always existed since the beginning
of recorded history and always will... at least to some extent. Personal greed
of dictators and wars between countries will ensure that. Bad
government policies will also ensure that poverty is never eliminated. Economies
will continue collapsing around the world due to corruption and economic
ignorance. Even in the USA, the current practice of printing money
faster than GNP increases as well as unsustainable record growth in our federal
deficit will eventually cause havoc and economic collapse. That sounds very
negative, but it's economic truth.
When I spent a month in India in 1983, the poor were everywhere. Everywhere.
Beggars followed our every footstep. At that time, India's population was
about 800 million. Today it is about 1.2 billion. In 30 years, India has added
400 million people! No economy in the world could keep up with that population
growth. I can't believe that there are fewer poor in India now than before.
There are certainly more wealthy people, but only 74% of the population is
literate. 22% are under the poverty line (220 million). 50% are under the age of
25 (600 million). India is expected to surpass China's population in a few
decades.China seems much better off, and the culture is far more
pro-active, but pollution in both places is beyond comprehension unless
you've been there.In America, our politics are about obtaining
more guns, blocking healthcare, offshoring more jobs. We're cutting
education and infrastructure investment. We're creating an upper class of
super rich and a shrinking middle class. We're creating more poor.Sorry Bill. I don't see the numbers, I guess.
Very misleading and full of misinformation with no basis of fact or
reasoning.The only way there will ever be any disclaimer to have
conquered being poor is when world wide Socialism rules every country and every
nation, including the USA. Only under socialism can you declare that poverty or
being poor has been abolished or fixed because under socialism you have only one
class of people and they are all poor and beggars and thieves by virtue of
survival instincts. The 1% have nothing to do with it, only
governemnt can create poverty and strife and we Americans are learning first
hand how its done and our economy is equalized and no one has to work or can get
a job. Poverty becomes the new standard of life the norm there fore there is no
poverty. We are nearly there under the rule of Obama and corporate american
NAFTA destroying and infecting us with our self destruction.Too bad
to, becasue the USA is the only consumer country and we have no industry or
consumer attributes. We are in a sate of survival, not growth. Consumerism is
dead in this economy and beggars for charity we have become.
Hopefully Gates knows something most people don't; Tesla was right; Edison
was wrong. We have not needed the energy we have all been charged
for since the turn of the century. Now that a true, working, over-unity device
has been announced, we will hopefully be leveling the playing field for all.
What do you suppose free energy will mean to those people in the Karachi
photograph? More than ANY of us can ever imagine.It's about
"The first and most ingrained myth, writes Gates, is the notion that the
rich get richer and the poor get poorer."It is not a myth. It
is the truth, particularly in this country. And the poor are increasing in
Gates lives in LA LA land. Let's take care of our own first. Deport all
illegals and refrain from giving them everything that only citizens are entitled
to. Use that money to help Americans NOT illegals. Once we have taken care of
our own, then we go about helping others. Increase funding for mental illness in
this country. Gates is trumping his own horn and it sounds like tin.
Bill Gates needs to trade me lives for a month and see if he says the same
thing. As a person living in poverty I understand it more than someone on the
outside looking in. I'm the one who is getting torn apart by high gas
prices, bills rising, cost of food rising, taxes, Obamacare now a
requirement($88 a month).Again spend a month in my shoes and tell me
For those willing to sacrifice, work, earn an education, and look beyond the
immediate, poverty can end. For those not willing to do the above, no amount of
aid, programs, and handouts will end poverty. This is the lie of income
redistribution. In most of the countries Bill Gates mentioned, many of the
people are sacrificing immediate gratification for long term rewards, earning an
education, and working hard. For way too many in not just the US, but Europe,
and other first world countries, people are not willing to sacrifice immediate
gratification and instead drop out of school, get pregnant before being able to
take care of their offspring, and take welfare because a job is beneath them,
etc. For these, poverty will never end, because they believe they are owed a
RaisingTheCeiling--Gates didn't say we are there yet.BTW, are you taking
advantage of all the government programs available for those whose income is at
or below the poverty level? Are you a member of the LDS church? They also have
many programs that can help.Are you willing to relocate? Job
prospects related to all aspects of the mining business go begging in NV.
Computer work to equipment operator to "roustabout." And many will
provide training.Also jobs related to the oil industry and all of
its supporting industry ranging from food service to working on the rigs...and
ALL jobs in between, in Midland TX and the Bakken Oil Fields in ND.
Acquaintances with no HS Diploma are making $60,000/yr. Cost of living is high,
but wages are higher!
Just goes to show how detached ultra rich left people are. Maybe he might be
better off examining the fact that Liberal govts, including BO, are busy
expanding poverty. Poor people who are dependent on govt are much more likely
to vote for more govt because they blame the govt for their problems...so they
think they should fix them. They have been mistakenly led to believe that govt
can or will solve their problems which of course is complete fallacy. They
perpetuate chronic poverty and a host of other social deterioration we face.Factcheck dot org says poverty has increased since BO was elected. Now,
if the leader of the industrialized world is busy expanding poverty for
political interests, what in the world would lead us to believe poverty will be
ending?As long as their are liberals and government we will have
poverty. They always need an excuse to expand govt to "provide" for the
poor people.It is comical to listen to these "enlightened"
ultra-rich people though. Completely detached from the real world.
Bill has billions and wants to keep it. Best way to do that is to tell people
they are rich, therefore he should keep his billions. Just like the
saying "the Lord helps those who help themselves" is not scripture, but
a phrase made up to sound like it, to escape helping the poor during the