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In our opinion: Obama does best when he rallies the nation to unify

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  • Christopher B Ogden, UT
    Jan. 28, 2014 8:55 p.m.

    Remember when barack told us he'd keep unemployment below 8% if given his first(of many) spendathon of 787 Billion?

    or that he'd be a one term president if he didn't cut the deficit in half(not only didn't he cut it in half, he didn't cut it at all, he increased it)

    Barack has added more to the national debt than almost all other presidents in the history of our country combined.

    Barack is only president to cause the USA to lose our perfect AAA credit rating in the history of our country

  • Dr. Thom Long Beach, CA
    Jan. 28, 2014 9:04 p.m.

    He would do a whole lot better if he just resigned.

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 28, 2014 9:26 p.m.

    Experience should have taught us by now that you cannot believe a single thing that Barack Obama says. He will say anything to tel people what they want to hear.

    Instead look at what he actually does, and that is usually the exact opposite of his pious words and soothing rhetoric.

    He only wants to fundamentally transform our country by destroying its economic foundations, cultural foundations, our military strength and the very concept of the rule of law. That is proven by the actions of the President himself and his band of untrustworthy Chicago cronies.

    If he speaks of unity, he will be busy driving wedges and thwarting cooperation by every means possible. It is ALWAYS his way, or nothing at all.

  • Morraine Puyallup, WA
    Jan. 28, 2014 10:15 p.m.

    Whoever wrote this article must have had their head in the sand for the last five years.
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    Benghazi, Fast and Furious, Black Panthers, IRS, 6+ trillion in debt DURING his admin, Obamacare (ACA)destroying what is left of American medicine - no thanks to the churches who are allowing this to go on without saying a darn word.
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    It has been prophesied that Salt Lake City will be destroyed as corrupted centers of God have in all of history - and our own scriptures tell us it will happen.
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    With this kind of "hey, I am going to go bury my head in the sand over here" attitude, it's apparent that we're much closer to the stroke of midnight time-wise than many will ever admit in Salt Lake City or anywhere in the US while we all burn and the Constitution lays bare at the hands of evil and base cowards.
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    Too bad even Deseret News can't stand as the Stripling Warriors of old DID.

  • Anti Bush-Obama Chihuahua, 00
    Jan. 28, 2014 10:37 p.m.

    Is it in a spirit of unity when all he does is race bait and call anybody who doesnt like him a racist? This guy is a total obscenity.

  • Anti Bush-Obama Chihuahua, 00
    Jan. 28, 2014 10:40 p.m.

    I love how they deflate the unemployment numbers and dont even count those who arent looking for work and forced onto welfare as being unemployed. The real unemployment is 36%. We have been in a depression since bush and they use these 3 month temp jobs as examples of job creation.

  • Blue Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 28, 2014 10:59 p.m.

    "This guy is a total obscenity."

    If anything qualifies as an obscenity it's the knee-jerk negativity of today's conservatives as exemplified by the first four comments to this article.

    Unemployment is lower than when Obama took office. Deficits are falling fast. The chief cause of the deficits incurred since 2003 are two unpaid for foreign wars and tax cuts that had little or nothing to do with Obama.

    Corporate profits and share prices are at record highs. American corporations have _never_ been sitting on so much cash.

    A small but powerful group of the wealthiest Americans are owning a rapidly growing portion of our nation's wealth. Meanwhile, the buying power of today's minimum wage is less than the buying power of the minimum wage of the 1970's, and in real dollars over the last 20 years middle income wages have stagnated at best, and declined for many Americans. That fact alone should tell you that "trickle-down" economics were a fallacy.

    Howl with rage all you want about how much you detest Obama, but here's the fact - he's your president, and the way the GOP is conducting itself Hillary is a shoe-in for 2016.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Jan. 29, 2014 12:02 a.m.

    Unify?

    No!

    Obama doesn't solve problems. He condemns groups of people instead.

  • David Centerville, UT
    Jan. 29, 2014 12:08 a.m.

    But when has Obama tried to unify the country?

    When he charges racism against a police officer that arrests a law-breaking college kid?

    When he tries to divide the nation on the 2nd Amendment?

    When he divides the nation over gay marriage?

    When he divides the nation with a healthcare law that was wholly Democrats creation?

    When he divides the country by trying to force religious organizations to pay for birth control and abortions?

    When he divides the nation by threatening to go around Congress?

    When he divides the nation by eliciting class warfare through tax debate?

    When he gives cash to his friends in green energy?

    When he shuts down the opportunity for a Canadian oil pipeline and shovel-ready jobs?

    When he tries to enact cap and trade energy policies to combat "global warming"? Oh wait, now its "climate change".

    When he lies about Benghazi?

    When he lies about government spying on its citizens?

    When he lies about healthcare, "You can keep you plan if you like it, you can keep your doctor…"?

    When has he worked to unite our country?

  • Counter Intelligence Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 29, 2014 3:33 a.m.

    class warfare
    race warfare
    gender warfare
    how does that qualify as unity?

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Jan. 29, 2014 4:40 a.m.

    I thought part of Obama's speech was an admission of his failures; unemployment too high, economic inequality, etc.! But the solutions he offered were frightening; I will force my will through executive privilege, "because I have a pen and a phone". Isn't that exactly what every dictator in history has done, from Stalin to Hitler, to Castro to Mao ste Tung? Imagine the howls of protest from the left if a conservative president threatened to invalidate congress like that?

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    Jan. 29, 2014 6:12 a.m.

    Based on these comments, I would say the "unity" message fell on deaf ears.

  • liberal larry salt lake City, utah
    Jan. 29, 2014 6:28 a.m.

    President Obama has tried to be a unifying president but he has faced unprecedented opposition by a far right drifting Republican party.

    His attempts at bipartisanship have been seen, by an obstructionist GOP, as signs of weakness so he has had no alternative but to govern by executive order so he can get SOMETHING done.

    Maybe as the right comes to its collective senses and start heading back to the center we can start working together to solve our nations challenges.

  • Anti Bush-Obama Chihuahua, 00
    Jan. 29, 2014 6:44 a.m.

    I cant understand why people call me a republican. They are just as bad as the Democrats. Bought and paid for by offshore special interest groups who are the real power structure of the country. The whole goal of these people is to inslave us.

  • Anti Bush-Obama Chihuahua, 00
    Jan. 29, 2014 6:48 a.m.

    Blue

    Deficits are falling fast due to inflation and fiat currency that devalues the dollar. Printing more paper money is whats killing the dollar.

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, Utah
    Jan. 29, 2014 7:02 a.m.

    It is simple to judge whether what President Obama is doing is proper or improper. He has a job description given him by the people. It assigns him some very simple duties AFTER requiring him to swear an oath to faithfully execute the office of President and to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

    1. He is commander in chief. Benghazi?
    2. He can make treaties with foreign nations with the consent of Congress.
    3. He can fill vacancies during a "recess". His abuse of that is before the Court.
    5. He shall report the state of the union - not some grandiose plan, but the actual state of the Union.
    6. He shall see that all of the laws are faithfully executed - including those that he does not want to execute.
    7. He shall commission all officers.

    8. He shall be removed for failure to perform his duties.

  • FT1/SS Virginia Beach, VA
    Jan. 29, 2014 7:48 a.m.

    Unify? When has he ever done that? Since beer gate about six months into office, all he's ever done is divide. The AP has an article on the 7 points of his campaign speech from last night where Obama continues to mislead the nation. Nice spin by Blue, every single friend I know that supported Obama when he came in office has woken up. They are now silent.

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    Jan. 29, 2014 8:14 a.m.

    The hatred runs deep with the radio fans.
    There were 52 attacks on US embassies during the Bush administration. Where were all you "patriots" then?

    "Stalin to Hitler, to Castro to Mao ste Tung" -and you expect to be taken seriously?

    "It has been prophesied that Salt Lake City will be destroyed as corrupted centers of God have in all of history - and our own scriptures tell us it will happen." -I've also heard he's paving the way for the antichrist on Bill O'Reily's show last week

    "Is it in a spirit of unity when all he does is race bait and call anybody who doesnt like him a racist?"
    Because there are no racist? Even when it's clear there are?

    You guys must of watched a different presentation or maybe your just getting the cliff notes from your radio, but I saw none of that last night.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 29, 2014 8:20 a.m.

    Based on these comments, I would say the "unity" message fell on deaf ears.

    You don't call for unity by telling them you're going to pass whatever you want by executive fiat, whether they like it or not, regardless of role given the Executive Branch vs the Legislative Branch in the Constitution.

    You don't bring Congress into unity with you by threatening to walk over them and make them irrelevant.

    You bring them into unity by finding common ground and working on that first.. and once you have found a way for BOTH sides to get some wins... then you go for some of your more controversial priorities.

    You don't just cram the stuff with the most opposition down your opposition's throats, with no attempt at compromise, snd tell them their going to like it, or you're going to do it again and again.

    ===

    I was most disappointed at the half of the room that stood and applauded as he told them he was going to make Congress irrelevant.

    It was like watching history reenacted. Like watching the Roman Senate applauding Caesar as he told them he was going to make the Senate irrelevant.

  • LiberalEastCoastMember Parkesburg, PA
    Jan. 29, 2014 8:22 a.m.

    "It has been prophesied that Salt Lake City will be destroyed as corrupted centers of God have in all of history - and our own scriptures tell us it will happen."

    Really? SLC destroyed? You don't say. Just as centers of God have been destroyed "in all history."? Do mean like centers of God like London (Church of England) Rome and Mecca?

    Gee I must have missed the news of those great city's destruction.

    Come to think of it I must have missed that chapter and verse in the scriptures where it talks about SLC's destruction either.

    Sounds like someone has shall I say, a fruitful imagination.

  • Mickey Kovars Tampa, FL
    Jan. 29, 2014 8:35 a.m.

    Obama had a chance early on to be a unifying figure, but he wasn't interested. At this point, after all the divisive rhetoric, deception and outright lying, there is no reason to trust him at all, no matter what he says.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    Jan. 29, 2014 8:36 a.m.

    It takes two to tango, and from January 20, 2009, the Republicans have sworn not to tango. Don't blame the President for this. It lies directly at the feet of the GOP. This editorial, by taking a stance on specific issues, puts this paper clearly in the Republican camp. It is a shame that the press voice for its ownership isn't more independent instead of partisan.

  • jcobabe Provo, UT
    Jan. 29, 2014 8:51 a.m.

    Judging by the comparative record of performance, it would rather seem that Mr. Obama does best when he is playing a round of golf in Hawaii - or South Africa. We particularly love Mr. Obama best when he is far away from us. Though his vacations are always an expensive indulgence of taxpayer dollars, it is worth every penny, just for the emotional comfort of knowing that he is most constructive by his absence. I am perfectly willing to give Mr. Obama every chance to air yet another great "rallying" speech, so long as I don't have to listen, or endure any more of the consequences of his disastrous good intentions.

  • SCfan clearfield, UT
    Jan. 29, 2014 9:03 a.m.

    Asking Obama to want to unify instead of divide is like asking Peyton Manning to throw as many interceptions as possible in the Super Bowl. In other words he won't do it. It goes against everything his radical background taught him about power. And he is learning a tough lesson in how the American government works. For a guy who "supposedly" taught constitutional law, he is truly ignorant of how our government/seperation of powers is supposed to operate.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Jan. 29, 2014 9:05 a.m.

    * you will not see your taxes go up a single dime
    * I will not sign any legislation which adds a single dime to the debt.
    * you can keep your plan, and doctor
    * the stimulus package will provide shovel ready jobs
    * we will give Egypt tanks, helicopters, and fighter jets, but we must take guns away from from the American people.

    So, last night, Obama says over eight millions jobs have been created, and the deficit has been cut in half.

    Hmm?

  • SCfan clearfield, UT
    Jan. 29, 2014 9:09 a.m.

    Joe Blow

    How can it not fall on deaf ears when everything said, especially by David, is true? Fool us once shame on you. Fools us 10 times, shame on the whole country.

  • riverofsun St.George, Utah
    Jan. 29, 2014 9:58 a.m.

    Many of us "liberals" read both of the Salt Lake City newspapers. It is beneficial to get both sides of every story, and read varied opinions in the forums.
    Frequently, this newspaper publishes numerous articles and comments that appear very unkind, unfair, and untrue concerning President Obama(in our opinions).
    Later, we move on to the "other local newspaper" that many conservatives find so distasteful.
    Wow, the sun comes up, common sense abounds, and we feel so much better!

  • procuradorfiscal Tooele, UT
    Jan. 29, 2014 10:05 a.m.

    Re: "Obama does best when he rallies the nation to unify"

    How would we know? He's never tried it.

    His calls to "unity" are actually nothing more than calls for abject and total surrender of important principles, to no greater purpose than making pathetic, lame-duck attempts to repair his political legacy -- replacing Jimmy Carter as the worst president in American history.

  • Irony Guy Bountiful, Utah
    Jan. 29, 2014 10:31 a.m.

    What disturbs me is the visceral hatred for Obama in these comments. I disagreed with GW Bush but I didn't hate him; I thought he was a decent guy. Why all the vitriol?

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Jan. 29, 2014 10:59 a.m.

    Can Obama unify this country on anything? I will use this quote to empahsize the point,

    "Unify? No! Obama doesn't solve problems. He condemns groups of people instead."

    Within certain communities of people, there is no point in even discussing anything. A recent national poll from a university, the question was asked in 2014, will you be voting for the Democrat candidate, or the Republican candidate, where no names was provided. 80 percent of Republicans responded that they would vote republican, without even knowing who is running. The individual running and running against didn't matter. Only 16 percent said they couldn't answer.

    How pathetic is that. The individual doesn't matter. Its about party loyalty. So can Obama change anything. With an 80 percent confidence level..... the answer has to be Np.

    Its all about party.... and not much more.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Jan. 29, 2014 11:10 a.m.

    @Anti-dude..... the US dollar has been in the same trading range now for a long time.... hasn't change much at all..... what the heck are talking about? It has been actually in the same trading range since 2009 (.73-.78 cents to the euro)...

    If you really want to look where the dollar took its tumble was when Bush took office the dollar was about 1.05 per euro.... and fell all the way to .63 dollars to the euro in 2008. It has climbed into a trading range in the 70s since.

    This "printing money" rhetoric would only mean something if other governments didn't print. But simply based on population expansion, you need to print money or else you would have devastating currency inflation.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 29, 2014 11:19 a.m.

    Irony Guy,
    I don't think people really "hate" President Obama (but some do). But I assure you some people really, really, deeply, hated President Bush too. I won't name names, but I assure you... it was there. You were just on the other side, so it wasnt as noticable.

    I know you are a fan, so you probably won't acknowledge this, but you should expect some of this. After all, Obama's approval rating is lower than any President in modern history (excepting Nixon) (source Factank).

    Many people are disappointed with Obama. Even some who voted for him and supported him originally. So expect some negative comments.

    I know some people will never see any fault in Barack Obama, and I understand that. But people have a right to a different point of view, and to express that point of view.

    And I know I'll get the, "you have the right to your opinion, but not your own facts". But that's not true. Opinions aren't facts. We are ALL biased to one extent or another. Some are more biased than others. But none of us have absolutely no bias (Obama Fans included).

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Jan. 29, 2014 11:29 a.m.

    @Mike Richards - you have brought this up over and over again... "1. He is commander in chief. Benghazi?" ..... what about it. You are the self proclaimed legal expert here, you want to make accusations of impeachable treason.... lets hear your evidence.

    What specific units were in theatre?
    What was their capability at that time?
    What was the given protocols for these unites, and who inside the white house signed off on these protocols?
    What specific intelligence did the white house have of events on the ground did they have?
    What specific request for aid during these events were denied, by either field commanders or more specifically what request did the White House deny?

    I am sure you have the answer to all these, if you are going to continually make the claims you make. So please, so us we had units available, that had the right capability, and where prescribed protocols were not carried out in order to affect the results of an election. I want specifics.

    I get things were done wrong...... but I need you to show me where these were politically motivated and grounds fro impeachment. Back it up with actually facts.

  • SCfan clearfield, UT
    Jan. 29, 2014 12:00 p.m.

    Irony Guy

    I hate having to take the "some of my best friends are black people" approach, but truth is, many who dislike Obama, (some even hate), don't like being accused of disliking him because he is a black man. That is the theme running rampant through many on the left side of the media. Truth is, I actually dislike Harry Reid more than Obama, because I think he has been more destructive to our country. Harry by the way not only shares my race, but my religion. Most of us who don't like Obama do so because of his politics, not his race. I would love to see one of the minority Republicans, like Haley, Rubio, West, or Cain become President. Race is just a card played by people who have nothing else as an excuse.

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    Jan. 29, 2014 12:33 p.m.

    To "liberal larry" you don't unify a nation by telling the poor that they are poor because the rich are stealing all of the wealth. You don't unify the nation by allowing the press to keep pushing the idea that those that don't agree with you are all racists. You don't unify the nation by telling everybody that the problems the nation faces are all the fault of the previous administration (some people liked the previous administration).

    The fact is that very little if anything Obama has said actually unifies people.

    To "Blue" while unemployment is down, so is labor participation. There are fewer people in the labor force. If the labor force was the same today as it was in 2008, the unemployment rate would be around 15%.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    Jan. 29, 2014 12:51 p.m.

    I am amazed at how many people here hate the President. They will twist like pretzels to justify themselves. Or worse, take their talking points from Fox and other extreme partisans. And then they don't want to apply the same principles to their own.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 29, 2014 2:14 p.m.

    Esquire,
    What's even more annoying than the assumption that if you don't like Obama... you're a racist... it's this assumption that if you disagree with him on anything... you got it from Fox News.

    I wish you guys would come back with some actual arguments of your own, some logic, or some personal philosophy, or anything that would show you're still thinking... instead of the bland ad hominem if you disagree... "you're racist", or "You listen to AM radio"...

    ===

    I share my father and my grand father's political views. We discuss them all the time. And my grandfather has never even heard of Limbaugh or the other people you blame for any contrasting points of view. So what ya gonna blame that on??

    Obviously there's another place you can get this disease (other than fox news or racism). What could it be??

    ===

    It would just be refreshing if people on the left could explain and defend their views, instead of just attacking anyone who differs as "racist" or "AM radio nut", etc...

    I try to explain my views daily and respect other's views... and avoid shallow adhominem attacks.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Jan. 29, 2014 4:03 p.m.

    Barack has brought the entire nation together with conservatives and liberals finally seeing eye to eye and bipartisan solutions for the economy flowing out of congress. At least that was the promise 5 years ago....

  • JoeCapitalist2 Orem, UT
    Jan. 29, 2014 4:24 p.m.

    Irony Guy:

    Obama has 3 more years. If he continues on this path; if his approval rating continues to slide; and if more people are hurt by his policies, then maybe...just maybe, the vitriol you describe might surpass that thrown at President Bush by liberals during his presidency.

    I might believe some of the shallow references to "unity" given by Obama if I ever saw him actually make the attempt at compromise or even showing a smidgen of respect for opinions that differ from his own. Actions speak much louder than words. Sure the GOP has been reluctant to give an inch as well, but Obama refuses to even listen to any proposals or ideas from conservatives even though he constantly says "if anyone has a better idea, I want to hear it". He doesn't really mean that.

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    Jan. 29, 2014 4:56 p.m.

    "Time will tell whether he succeeded, but his defiant hint at using executive orders will not unify the nation...."
    ______________________________

    It may solidify his base and bring swing voters to rally behind him in a tough election year.

  • DSB Cedar Hills, UT
    Jan. 29, 2014 5:47 p.m.

    @Craig Clark - yeah, that'll work, because the reason his approval numbers are so low is because people are disappointed at his lack of dictatorial governance. Just too much respect for opposition. If he just sidesteps the Constitution and ignores the Congress, and imposes his entire agenda by Executive Order, then the independents will love him and Democrats will ride the wave to victory.

  • 10CC Bountiful, UT
    Jan. 29, 2014 9:56 p.m.

    Any pretense at seeking compromise or "unity" by Republicans were erased early in Obama's first term, even his first evening as President, when key GOP leaders announced their primary goal was to make Obama a one term president. To their credit, they've been very consistent in opposing every single item proposed by Obama, even after he was re-elected and their goal a failed effort.

    Republicans whine and wail at Obama announcing he'll use Executive Orders, when GOP Senate leaders used the filibuster more than any time in history, while Obama's use of Executive order has been less than any other president in over 100 years.

    Obama should absolutely use Executive Orders to push forward the nation - what fool believes Republicans would "unify" with him...on *anything*?

    Go forward, Mr President. Don't look back, and don't waste time or energy trying to win over those who sought your demise.

  • DSB Cedar Hills, UT
    Jan. 30, 2014 9:00 a.m.

    @10CC - one thing you got right was in correctly pointing out that President Obama's call for unity was a mere pretense. Always has been, always will be. Unity for President Obama means to do it his way or no way at all.

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    Jan. 30, 2014 10:18 a.m.

    DSB,

    "....the reason his approval numbers are so low is because people are disappointed at his lack of dictatorial governance. Just too much respect for opposition. If he just sidesteps the Constitution and ignores the Congress, and imposes his entire agenda by Executive Order, then the independents will love him and Democrats will ride the wave to victory."
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    Even if you're just being sarcastic, your choice of words hit closer to the truth than you perhaps realize. But you overreach in suggesting that use of Executive Orders sidesteps the Constitution. That’s a legitimate power used by every President, none more famously than Theodore Roosevelt who created the modern Presidency with an unprecedented use of Executive Orders.

    The shutdown of Government last October illustrates what Obama is up against with an opposition party whose defining strategy for five years has been to thwart the President's agenda. The GOP understandably would prefer a Barack Obama who would rather avoid a fight than to unapologetically use the tools of his office.

  • Mickey Kovars Tampa, FL
    Jan. 30, 2014 2:59 p.m.

    Some writers suggest that Obama is on the receiving end of unprecedented hatred. I seem to recall a lot of hatred directed against Bush.

  • Badgerbadger Murray, UT
    Jan. 30, 2014 10:27 p.m.

    "Obama does best when he rallies the nation to unify"

    So in other words, he never does best?