With byu's amazing rpi shouldn't byu have a pretty good chance to win
this game? Certainly they should keep it very very close right? Gonzaga, the
best team by far in the west cupcake conference, isn't even ranked in all
polls. Gonzaga 83Byu 68
Powerhouse Gonzaga?Sure, they are the best team in the wcc. But they
aren't even ranked in all polls. When the best team by far isn't even
ranked in all polls, says a lot about the "quality" of the conference.
Well that didn't take long for Gonzaga to take control. I would
have thought a byu team with an amazing rpi like we always hear about could have
given a team like Gonzaga that isn't even ranked in all polls a good game.
Byu just isn't a good team. Simple as that. No surprise in this game.
Played out exactly as we knew it would. 1-5 against Gonzaga since joining the
wcc. It clear the wcc is Gonzaga and no one else.
BYU played decent, but Gonzaga caught fire. They were perfect from the FT line.
We need to press much more. We really miss Bronson making some hard fouls in
the middle, and we need someone to foul hard outside. Zone doesn't work
with great shooters.But, we still have more Pac 10 road wins than
Utah, we still have an exciting team, and we still root for a school that means
Gee, it's always nice to hear from the Ute trolls first.ANYWAY,
as a cougar fan this WAS an embarrassing loss. After a decent first half, BYU
let them run away with 3 after 3 after 3...etc. You'd think we would have
learned from Sharp and the Portland loss...I guess not. Conversely, our 3 point
shooting was atrocious.
Ok - now its utahs turn to go to the slaughter. should be a good one.
Chris B's prediction before the game. Gonzaga 83Byu 68Nicely done Chris. Always great to see byu lose.
Don't understand why people are ripping the WCC here when BYU is 4th in the
conference right now, never finished higher than 3rd since joining the league,
and only has 1 win as a WCC member against Gonzaga and St. Mary's. Seems
like the criticism should be aimed at your team. Yes, you have a great home
court advantage, but you have to win on the road. BYU has 4 road losses already
and still have to go to Moraga.
This is an honest opinion coming from a life long Ute...BYU should
have stayed in the Mountain West. The WCC is going to really hurt BYU
basketball. I don't see how the Y will be able to recruit elite athletes
playing in this league. I think the school needs to start paying a little more
attention to the basketball program. Seems like it is being forgotten...
First 4 comments by Ute fans. And they say we are obsessed with the Utes and
the PAC 12....
The 1st four comments are from trolls from U of U. Must be sad and lonely to be
a troll. BYU needs to figure out their issues. Their confidence must be in a
tough spot. Hang in there Cougars.
Chris B.: BYU fans have class, they don't have to run down other programs
to make theirs look good; I'll take a team that honors the Sabbath Day over
any other. There is more to winning in sports than just the score.Proud of the BYU Cougars for playing hard. Gonzaga has been missing a key
player who was back with the team tonight and he makes them a better team than
their record might show. I'm looking forward to the rematch in Provo, and
not giving up on this BYU team, they have great effort and heart. Go Cougars!
"Chris B." I'm a big Ute fan, but I'm tiring of your constant
negative posts regarding BYU. I don't root for them either, but I do
recognize when to not say anything. I just want to root for the Utes. Give us
all a break. Just worry about the Utes, who are fun to watch this year. Love
the players they're getting, and love how they play.
Hey look, the big 12 people are all uppity because they have ONE team ranked in
both polls (Arizona), while none of their other teams are ranked at all.
Don't worry guys, Gonzaga will be ranked in all the polls next week, and
then the WCC, MWC (SDSU), and PAC-12 will all be equal by your bogus silly
metric.Gonzaga is consistently a quality team. BYU has lost to some
terrible teams it was embarrassing to lose to, like Utah, but Gonzaga is not one
BYU looked gassed from the start. The officials let them play hard the whole
game and BYU just wasnt ready for that physical of a game. they looked out of
sync from the first whistle. I hope they can win out the rest of the season.
thats our only shot at a post season bid, and thats a stretch. and what is not
surprising is that all four first comments on this board are Ute fans rubbing it
in. I guess that is what they consider class. lets get it together
Last I checked the mighty PAC12 has the #1 ranked team in the nation and then
every other team in the PAC is behind Gonzaga on votes to get into the rankings.
What does that say about the rest of the PAC if Gonzaga is a nobody?
StatsBYU - 8 assists, 10 turnoversGonz - 21 assists, 7
turnoversIs basketball no longer a team game in Provo?
Rough loss. Good to see BYU's most ardent fan on here early and often.
Neat-o to have enough accounts to be able to "like" each of his own
posts 10+ times before anyone else can even comment. Last
night's game was what it was expected to be--a road loss to a good (but not
great) team. BYU has the talent to win big games they just haven't figured
out how to do it yet.
In the words of Rich Sherman, we have a mediocre team, mediocre!
Wait until next year. It's about all anyone can say about the program.
I wouldn't pay that much attention to the polls. Gonzaga is a very good
team. Like the Cougars, they've been slowed by injuries, but they are
simply a better team than BYU. They'll probably win in Provo, too--no
matter where they are in the polls or the Cougars are in the RPI.
Again I would comment that winning is not the only important element in Sports.
I love the values BYU is seeking to live by as they compete and develop the
whole person. BYU basketball is exciting to watch, the team shows excellence and
skill in their effort, these are things to applaud and support. The WCC is
filled with Universities that put faith in God at the top of their list of
priorities, making it a great Conference to be affiliated with, even though the
represent different Christian Churches. At the end of the day these athletes
will lead out in society after their playing days are over, and America needs
Ute NationYou are making no sense at all. These WCC teams still manage to
recruit some very good talent to play in their junior high gyms. BYU has
recruited an amazing class coming in for 2014. BTW, your utes are the ones who
opened the window and bolted for the pac. BYU was victim of an intolerable TV
deal in the MWC so took the opportunity to leave as well. Further, don't
think for a minute that your Utes would be hot stuff in the WCC. So give it a
rest until you can back it up with a smokin' hot program.
Actually, I thought the Cougars gave a strong showing against Gonzaga. The
Cougars were tired, no matter what anybody says, and Gonzaga is deep. The
Cougars kept it close, but couldn't keep up.The goal now is to
win out in the conference and take momentum into the tournament.
DRay, that's quite the turnaround from your December rhetoric:"Coaching basketball is what these two men do as a career, and they get
paid handsomely to do it, I hope it means something more than a shrug to them,
whether their teams play well or not. If its just a shrug and an oh well, kind
of thing, they ought to find another job, one that really doesn't matter at
all, so we can have two who seek excellence in what they do, and teach that to
their team...John Wooden must be turning over in his grave to see such
don't give a care keep it all in perspective kind of attitudes as portrayed
in this article."
Thank goodness for Volleyball season!
@prodicus Utah is a better team then byu and it is not even close in comparison.
Utah actually beat a top 25 team this year where byu has fallen short. If Utah
can get their road woes figured out they will be a very competitive team in the
PAC a far better conference then the wcc.@hobbes you should come
over to the Utah articles after a loss and you can witness first hand how classy
byu fans really are. Which is comical since Utah is playing in a tougher
conference with far better athletes then the wcc.
Tom in CAVallejo, CAOk - now its utahs turn to go to the
slaughter. should be a good one.---------Like how BYU
got slaughtered by Utah? That was a good one.I watched a little of
the San Diego vs Gonzaga game and thought BYU had a great chance for an upset.
San Diego had chance to win, BYU had no chance. The difference, BYU
doesn't play defense.
They definitely miss Kaufusi, this team has nothing under the basket on offense
or defense.Only a byu fan would say "other things are more
important" after loosing. Family, faith, building character and
sportsmanship are not unique to byu and/or the wcc.The byu fans are
learning that rpi's and sagarins are meaningless if you can't win on
"BYU fans have class, they don't have to run down other programs . .
."DRay:Evidently you aren't familiar with a
good number of y "fans" who don't subscribe to your pronouncement.
Reading just about any Utah story should open your eyes.
Ute NationThe WCC doesn't seem to hold Gonzaga back when it
comes to recruiting or having success. They're in line for their 16th
straight NCAA appearance. In that span, they've been to an elite 8 and
multiple sweet 16's. I think too much is made here about the size of the
arenas these games are played in, and not enough about the teams playing the
games. This is a solid mid major conference that often gets multiple tournament
bids. Some people on here make it sound like it is below the Big Sky or SWAC.
BYU can have success, they just don't seem to have things going their way
Regarding the brilliant comment by rhappahannock that "we really miss
Bronson making some hard fouls in the middle and we need someone to foul hard
outside." Huh?! Mika and Austin both play lousy defense and foul out on a
regular basis... but you want "quality" along with quantity as the other
team continues to line up at the charity stripe for their free throw fiesta.
It's called d-e-f-e-n-s-e. Wow, just wow...
"BYU fans have class, they don't have to run down other programs . .
." -- DRaySome do, some don't. For example:BYU
apologizes to USU for ill-advised Jumbotron message"Following
BYU's 78-72 win Wednesday night over the Aggies, the arena's Jumbotron
flashed a quick message that read: "Dear UT St. Enjoy The LOSS! (heart) Your
Big Brother BYU. Once video and photos of the Jumbotron message hit the web on
Thursday, Aggie fans expressed dismay at the lack of sportsmanship through
various social networking sites and message boards."
Gonzaga plays as a team. When you get 21 assists that shows you, you are a
team. BYU plays like it is pick-up at the Y. Poor defense but not as bad as
the offense. All they do is look to shoot it and it doesn't matter who has
the ball. Shoot it as quick as you can and it doesn't who's open,
just put it up from anywhere on the floor at anytime.
@DRayAh yes. The good ol' "we lost but we're still better
people than you" tactic. I really don't see what Sunday play and
religion have anything to do with being blown out in a basketball game.
Tough to win in Spokane, especially when the Zags get hot from the 3 line.
I absolutely hate the hypocrisy that goes back and forth between these two
schools - as if one side is right and one is wrong. I'll admit that I have
"participated" in the past, but if either side thinks they are going to
convince the other to jump ship they are sorely mistaken. Bottom line is that
the spoils go to the victor and Utah has shown ON THE PLAYING FIELD that they
are better in both football and basketball this year. Kind of hard to argue
when the scoreboard says otherwise. Here's wishing the Cougs
continued success in volleyball,a whole lot of needed-luck the remainder of the
basketball season, and much success to Coach Littlewood and his baseball team as
the season is just a few short weeks from kicking off! Go Cougars!
@ starthillnotnelsonNot Ute "fans". Just one guy, who
isn't even a Ute fan. He's just a BYU hater, and none of the rest of
us endorse him....
@ cush81Since the mid-90's Gonzaga has found its way to the
NCAA tournament pretty regularly, but they're not a serious contender once
they step on the big stage.
They were too tired. They weren't focused. They weren't ready to play
defense in the second half. The other guys just got hot..again. Everyone always
gets up for BYU. What chance can they have among all these intimidating
mitigating factors??The performance of this team shows lack of
focus, lack of cohesiveness, immaturity and poor preparation. Every loss is
accompanied by a new plethora of excuses as to the unavoidability of their poor
execution. This team is sorely lacking in adequate mental focus to properly
cover even all the fundamentals of basketball in any one game. That sounds
ridiculous, but appears with regularity to be the case.WWookie...good point! The prospect of playing D-1 basketball before high
school size crowds is not exactly motivating to a prized recruit. Tom Holmoe has a maelstrom at BYU that has the two major revenue sports
swirling down the funnel, and needs to reverse this trend of failure or watch it
consume what should be one of the best sports programs in the nation.
Has our coaching staff ever heard of a box zone and one? Better chance of
stopping Pangos than the defenses we used. When man to man was played, he was
not as effective.
This teams cares more about the offensive stat sheet than winning. Sorry - but
that's what it looks like.