Well said, Thomas and Sherri Park, and very very true.
I do agree with the editorial and I have a question for those who think the
Sutherland Institute is correct to oppose the bill.Question: If we
change the talk from Gay to Interracial, do you feel the same way?For example, is it okay for a business to deny an interracial couple a service
that is provided to a couple of the same race?How about just denying
service to someone based on their race?Nope, that isn't good
either.For some reason, we all managed to survive and grow as a
nation as segregation was eliminated yet some people want to bring it back but
this time based on sexual orientation.Separate but equal is not a
policy anyone should be recommending. Here is another question:
What if you were denied access to a service (company, government, housing,
flights or other) because you have children.That is what the
Anti-Discrimination bill avoids. It is about equality for everyone to be able
to access the same services regardless of race, sex or orientation.
If I were a landlord and rented to people, the only thing I would care about is
how well the renters bothered to care for the property. Some people have just
about ruined the place before they move out. I wonder if it would be
discrimination for a landlord to be able to call a previous landlord of the
potential renter and check to see if they took care of the place or trashed it?
I'd like to think they could, but I'm sure in these PC days, it would
be some kind of Major Civil Rights Violation to do so. As for their race,
religion, or sex. I could care less. I would much rather have a gay couple, or
athiest family who respected other peoples property than a Mormon family who
left the place looking like it should be transferred to the local dump when they
moved out. Glad I'm not a landlord.
Better yet, Knowing they were Gay or Lesbian -- and renting anyway.Kudo's for having such a tolerant and inclusive, rather than
exclusive attitude.BTW -- We wouldn't even have to pass laws if
people would just stop the bigotry and choose the right.
I think true emancipation will come the first time a landlord refuses to rent to
someone because they are NOT gay.
We have a gay couple in our neighborhood in Bountiful. They refer to themselves
as "the boys." They are quiet and keep their property immaculate. They
clear snow off neighboring properties and bring us hot bread at Christmas. You
couldn't ask for better neighbors. To those mean-spirited people who say
"keep them out," I say send them over to us. We'll be glad to have
I think the not renting to gay people thingy is mostly a red-herring.
I've rented to people for years and I have no idea if any of them were
gay.The cake maker in Texas also a red-herring. You can buy a cake
anywhere... if he won't give you one... go to the next baker!===Most people don't care if you are gay. IF you run into
one who does... just move on the next person and you will probably get a
different result.Most of the stories of people not renting, or not
selling cakes, or a teeshirt... are urban-legends. Something you hear about
(which grows and grows in the community as the story is told as if it happened
to someone they know). It's usually not something you actually experienced
first hand. So it's easy for these rumors and isolated incidents to
quickly grow out of proportion and appear epidemic.If you REALLY
can't get a cake, or a teeshirt, anywhere (because you are gay)... let us
know and we'll pass a law. But it's hard to outlaw jerk behavior.
I could possibly side with the bakery that wouldn't sell a wedding cake to
the gay couple. Such a product is a special work of art, and not just a
"widget." Artists should not be compelled to produce art that sends a
message they don't agree with.Of course, they should have
offered to produce a "plain", well decorated wedding cake that
didn't overtly promote a SSM message. If the bakery had a selection of
wedding cake styles to choose from, then there is no reason not to give them
"Cake #5" and be done with it.
I agree. I have rentals too and have probably rented to gay people - I hope I
did. It's the last thing I want to know about them. I want reliable, clean
renters - that's what matters. Oh, and if a baker or
photographer didn't want to serve a gay couple just don't say that you
won't serve them because they're gay. Tell them you're schedule
won't allow it. Easy enough.
If I was renting out a room in an apartment I own I would definintely find a
heterosexual man to rent to. Just as I wouldn't feel comfortable renting a
room out in a house filled with other men, it wouldn't be wise to rent to
someone who may be attracted to the other people in the house. No difference
between not renting to a female in an otherwise all male house and renting out
to a male that may be attracted to other males. Just as its not wrong to not
rent out to a woman in this scenario, its perfectly fine to find a heterosexual
male to protect the privacy of the other males in the house.