Until we have electronics INSIDE the car that displays the current speed limit,
having changeable speed limit signs OUTSIDE the car will not solve the problem.
I travel a great deal. I often find myself on roads that have no posted speed
limits. There may have been signs posted at the entrance or exit to a town, but
too often there are no signs along the way. Some might think that large
electronic signs could never be missed, but all it would take is a driver
checking his mirrors when he passed the speed limit sign to miss a new speed
limit.Surely with today's electronics, it would cost less than
$10 to build an LED display that could receive and display the speed limit
signal. For less than $25 it should be easy to construct both a display and a
"beeper" that sounded when the vehicle exceeded the speed limit.We're creatures of habit. When change is necessary, make the
change so noticeable that no one can miss it.
Speed limit signs all over this state are treated as "suggestions".
Following the laws that make our communities livable is a very patriotic thing
to do. And Utah is supposed to be home to those with an "extra gene of
patriotism" according to Mike Lee. I find that assertion ridiculous when
you see how most treat our laws. Even religions stress the value of our laws.
Most Utahns are religious too.
Changeable speed limits signs won't change the driving of those who think
they are immortal behind the wheel. I also see the potential to
abuse this system to 'catch' people who didn't see the sign, or
it changed after they passed. Could this be an effort to abuse power?It is a lot of money to spend on an experiment to save money. They will have
to prevent a lot of wrecks, and thus emergency responses to come out in the
black. They need to watch the benefit closely to make sure it pays, in tax payer
dollars. If not, it is not worth taking away choice from drivers. This money would probably be better spent in schools.
Mike RichardsSouth Jordan, UtahUntil we have electronics INSIDE the
car that displays the current speed limit, having changeable speed limit signs
OUTSIDE the car will not solve the problem.======= Seriously?Utahns [mostly 'good Mormons'] don't
"obey" the laws of the land as is.I'm tail-gated,
high-beamed, and flipped off daily for driving the posted speed limit of 65 mph
on I-15 in the far-right-hand lane.People already "know" the
speeds and the laws, This has nothing to do with "knowing"
anything - and everything to do with willfully dis-oberying the laws
[i.e., anarchy].and to us Mormons - not only breaking the laws of
the land, but a "sin" as well.Besides - If we
are going to post the speed limit inside the cars, why stop there, Why not just go ahead and issue the speeding tickets inside them right then
and there as well.
If people will adhere to the speed limits posted on these signs (or even come
reasonably close to adhering), then that would undoubtedly be a good thing from
a public safety standpoint. I've had a concern about these new signs,
though, since first hearing about them; namely, that an abrupt ad hoc decrease
in the speed limit with no warning would result in nearly universal breaking of
the speed limit by drivers, and would have the potential to be abused by law
enforcement agencies (and the government entities they are affiliated with) as a
means of "mining" speeding fine revenue. If the new variable speed
signs are accompanied by "Reduced Speed Ahead" signs 0.25-0.5 miles
prior to the variable speed signs, then I think that takes care of the problem;
but as far as I know, that hasn't happened.
Speed limits don't apply to me. I drive an SUV.
Variable speed limit signs are used all over Germany. On the autobahns, where
many Americans think the speed limit is unlimited, those variable signs pop up
all the time. In fact, the speed limit changes so often that the driver must be
alert all the time. Construction and winding roads are reasons for fixed speed
limit signs, but weather conditions change often and require adjusting the speed
limit without warning. Just accept it!!Whether fixed or variable,
though, the speed limits ARE enforced. And that is where we Americans get off
easy. I support the use cameras, cops hiding behind trees, or whatever else is
needed, to enforce the laws. And whether we be Mormon, Catholic, Protestant,
Jewish, Muslim, or whatever, we should be law abiding citizens.
Variable speed limit signs should not be needed (IF people would us their
heads). But from these comments I can see that they are needed for some
people.If we were smart enough to know that you need to slow down
when there's ice on the road or heavy traffic... we wouldn't need a
sign to tell us that.
@ open minded . . .Yes, seriously. In your car you probably have a
heat gauge. Mine is marked so I know if everything is normal or if the engine
is overheating. I have a tachometer. It has a green range and a red range.
All I have to know is that if the gauge is in the 'green' that
I'm okay. Every car has a speedometer. It tells us how fast we're
going, but it doesn't indicate how fast we should be going. Where I live,
the speed limit changes every few blocks and if I enter a street between the
speed limit signs and if I'm not familiar with the speed limit, then I
could be driving too fast or too slow. Either one could cause an accident.Surely you know that every signal light controller installed in the last
twenty years has wi-fi. Why can't that wi-fi be used to broadcast the
speed limit? Cars already have computers. Those computers could handle the
chore, especially when the speed limit is variable.
They have these in Germany on the autobahn. If they aren't displaying
something, that means there's no speed limit but sometimes they might flash
something like 120 (km/hr) in a city with higher traffic.
One other thing -- We had these sorts of variable speed signs posted
on I-5 in Seattle to control traffic flow.Similar to the red-light /
green-lights on Freeway on-ramps, The speeds were reduced at certain
points when needed to stop the accordian effect of stop and go traffic and
grid-lock ahead.Like the tortoise and the hare, it's
better to go slow and consistant at 45-55 mph with thousands of people trying to
get to work or go home, than it is for everyone to go 65 mph for 3 miles,
and then sit dead stopped for 15 minutes.
If our world continues to require individually piloted vehicles coming and going
to different places, it is likely that we will have to develop smart highways
along with smart vehicles. A smart highway would have a speed limit
for every part of the road that would control the speed of the vehicles, the
interval, and even the steering. Vehicles would be slaves to the
highway and people would have traded the freedom to drive as they please for a
new freedom of a more easy, pleasant and safe transport.
No question about it, these signs are important and offer an increase in safety
via their flexibility for different road conditions.But, these signs
should absolutely be an important part of the solution in dealing with our
inversion air-pollution problem.All things considered, cars pollute
less if they are going slower. (They also happen to get significantly better
fuel mileage, which is a fringe benefit).Most Utahns will stay
within 10 mph of the posted speed limit. That needs to be 60 mph on the
Interstates when we have high pressure systems and the gunk begins to build.
And on other streets, dropping the speed limit from 45 to 35 (for example) will
likewise produce less air pollution... and we'll probably see improved
safety, as well.
It it's true, that you are sinning if you exceed the speed limit, it might
explain why some around here go a good five miles slower than the posted speed
limit. I hope no one is truly that concerned that going a mile or two over
(particularly by accident) is not just worthy of a speeding ticket but a one way
ticket to "The land of eternal purgatory", you'd be a bigger hazard
on the road by not paying enough attention to things other than the speedometer.
If you're deliberately blowing past the speed limit, then repent!
Otherwise, please exercise a bit of common sense.
The 80 mph should be no limit. Is this a nanny state?