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  • pocyUte Pocatello, ID
    Jan. 10, 2014 1:02 p.m.

    Huge commit. I love how this class is coming together.

    Welcome to the Ute Family, Andre.

    Go UTES!!

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 10, 2014 1:02 p.m.

    Big time pick up for Utah. A ton of prestigious programs wanted him and he knows Utah has a bright Pac 12 future.

    And yes, the number of guys Kyle Whittingham puts in the NFL came into play here.

    Best program in Utah

    Best coach in Utah

    The Pac 12 Utah Utes

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 10, 2014 1:07 p.m.

    Not only has Utah won the head to head AND average star recruiting EVERY year the last 4 years, but Utah's worst year of the last 4 years is better than any other school in Utah's best year of the last 4 years.

    And once again, we can thank our Pac 12 membership for a lot of that. Most big time players want to play for big time programs and play against other prestigious big time programs week in and week out.

    Welcome aboard Andre!

    Go Utes, onward and upward

  • truthsandwich RANDOLPH, UT
    Jan. 10, 2014 1:13 p.m.

    Why did it take so long for any local papers to report this?

    He had offers to UCLA and Wisconsin, among many others. Great get for the U.

    Welcome Andre! GO UTES!

  • motorbike Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 10, 2014 1:24 p.m.

    Big time commit. The Ute defense is looking like it will be stacked next year. Now we just need a QB to make it through the year without a major injury.

  • Fight On! St George, Utah
    Jan. 10, 2014 1:30 p.m.

    Top safety?

    The kid is a 3 star recruit and is the #126 safety in the country according to scout.
    Nothing to write home about.

  • truthsandwich RANDOLPH, UT
    Jan. 10, 2014 2:06 p.m.

    @Fight on

    "Nothing to write home about."

    UCLA, Wisconsin, and West Virginia were hoping to be able to write home about him.

    I guess they should have consulted you first.

  • Cletus from Coalville Coalville, UT
    Jan. 10, 2014 2:15 p.m.

    We just got more stars than before and now we are more prestegous than even before so here we come rose Bowl!

    Go Utes!

  • motorbike Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 10, 2014 2:19 p.m.

    truthsandwich,

    That was funny, though lets be honest, "Fight On" set you up nicely for that one.

    Pretty tough for any unbiased observer to deny that Godfrey is a fantastic commit for the Utes.

  • Northern Logan, UT
    Jan. 10, 2014 2:22 p.m.

    Congrats on the recruit. And as much as you would like it to be Chris the Utes are the best team in the state behind Utah State.
    SI just ranked Utah State 25th in the nation.

  • Christine B. Hedgefog Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 10, 2014 2:28 p.m.

    "Utah has a lot of good coaching stability"

    Since he plays defense he probably, understandably, doesn't care that we're on our 15th OC in 15 years, but one wonders if he considered when he make that comment that he'll more than likely see a whole new coaching staff for his sophomore year.

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Jan. 10, 2014 2:54 p.m.

    Erickson's contributions to the team are paying big dividends in recruiting. In addition to Godfrey, who looks like a very good recruit, they have commitments from two other decent DB prospects, and very likely could get another good one from WR Kenric Young, who has offers from Wisconsin, UCF, Nebraska, Mizzou, and Minnesota, among a lot of others.

  • Ifel Of'a-sofa Alpine, Utah
    Jan. 10, 2014 3:07 p.m.

    Does the kid know there is never a week off in the pac10.2 when you are a ute?

    There is a week off in the pac10.2 when you play the utes however.

  • Ifel Of'a-sofa Alpine, Utah
    Jan. 10, 2014 3:12 p.m.

    Northern, while I would like to agree with you... no utah schools are in the SI top 25.

    USU did get 2 votes, but that's it.

    Oregon, Stanford, UCLA, USC, Arizona State, Washington did make the top 25 from the pac... I guess that makes the utes good? LOL

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Jan. 10, 2014 3:14 p.m.

    Meant to mention that the other two DBs, Monte Seabrook and Tavaris Williams, as well as Young are all from Florida, which is Erickson's primary recruiting zone. Forgot to mention, though, that Brandon Snell, JUCO All-American WR, a Louisville commit out of high school before opting to go JUCO and reopen his options, is also from Miami. Those are some great in-roads to make with coaches in that area.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Jan. 10, 2014 4:15 p.m.

    Great pickup! Our secondary with a healthy Bleechan and Miami transfer LB Gionni Paul was already looking better then this year, adding Godfrey will only add much needed PAC-12 depth.

    @Ifel Of'a-sofa: "There is a week off in the pac10.2 when you play the utes however."

    #11 Stanford disagrees!

  • Samurai Jake Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 10, 2014 4:16 p.m.

    Awesome pickup! He knows about Wedds, and hopes to play like him. Sounds like he's already on the right track! Go Utes!

  • BeSmart Cheyenne, WY
    Jan. 10, 2014 4:22 p.m.

    This is a great pickup for the U. The next few years they should be loaded at DB.

  • CougOrUte..Naah Nibley, UT
    Jan. 10, 2014 4:35 p.m.

    Congratulations to the Utes for getting such a great commit. Wouldn't it be wonderful if the results of gaining these great commits would show on the field playing against the rest of the PAC 10+2. Perhaps if the Utes get about 20 more they can win more than 2 games next year. Not knocking your team, just acknowledging your schedule. Looking like 1 sure win, 3 toss-ups, and 8 sure losses.

  • backpacn Sandy, UT
    Jan. 10, 2014 4:45 p.m.

    pocyUte

    "Huge commit. I love how this class is coming together."

    One of the weakest recruiting classes in the PAC 12.

    ASU, Arizona, USC, UCLA, Stanford and Oregon all have ESPN Top 40 recruiting classes.

    Utah isn't even close.

  • PAC man Anaheim, CA
    Jan. 10, 2014 4:46 p.m.

    It would be interesting to know what the Utes are promising new recruits, since they can't promise a bowl experience.

  • Truthfully Eagle Mountain, UT
    Jan. 10, 2014 4:49 p.m.

    Top safety? Top of what? the U offered scholarships to 24 safeties. 16 of them are rated higher than this young man. He is ranked as the 126th best safety in the country. A good pickup for the U but hardly a top prospect.
    Just saying...

  • midpacmajor Salt Lake City, Utah
    Jan. 10, 2014 5:35 p.m.

    Andre Godfrey is a nice 3-star recruit for the Utes, but hardly the type of player that will create even a ripple of concern throughout the rest of the league.

  • truthsandwich RANDOLPH, UT
    Jan. 10, 2014 5:50 p.m.

    @midpacmajor

    "hardly the type of player that will create even a ripple of concern throughout the rest of the league."

    He does seem to be creating quite a ripple among byu trolls.

    I'm guessing UCLA is a little concerned, since they recruited him.

  • Ifel Of'a-sofa Alpine, Utah
    Jan. 10, 2014 8:04 p.m.

    Final BCS Ranking 2014:
    42 - BYU
    45 - USU
    82 - uofu

  • let's roll LEHI, UT
    Jan. 10, 2014 8:10 p.m.

    Best wishes to this young man for success on the field and in the classroom at the U.

    I also hope his confidence in the stability of the coaching staff turns out to be well-founded.

  • truthsandwich RANDOLPH, UT
    Jan. 10, 2014 10:07 p.m.

    @Ifel

    "Final BCS Ranking 2014"

    Final record of those teams actually playing against each other:

    Utah 2-0
    BYU 1-1
    USU 0-2

  • phantomblade Salt Lake City, Utah
    Jan. 10, 2014 10:40 p.m.

    truthsandwich

    The only thing that really matters is final overall record and ranking.

    Texas A&M beat Alabama in 2012. Alabama won the National Championship.
    Which accomplishment will be remembered most 10 years from now?

    BYU and USU both finished with winning records, both played in a bowl, and BYU was ranked higher than either in most final polls.

    BYU has nine straight bowl appearances.
    USU has three straight bowl appearance.
    Utah hasn't played in a bowl since 2011.

    On the bright side, the Utes are doing better than their new "rival". The Buffaloes haven't played in a bowl since 2007 and haven't finished the season with a winning record since 2005.

  • scenic view Baltimore, MD
    Jan. 10, 2014 11:18 p.m.

    CB

    "Utah's worst year of the last 4 years is better than any other school in Utah's best year of the last 4 years."

    Utah doesn't even play BYU or USU next season, so what difference does it make whether Utah has the best or the worst recruiting class in the state?

    Shouldn't your primary focus be on how Utah's recruiting stacks up against PAC 12 teams?

    Of course, spouting off about Utah's "great" recruiting classes to USC, UCLA, Stanford, Oregon, Arizona, ASU, and Washington fans would simply expose U as the conference cellar dweller that you really are.

  • Uncle festis Pasadena, CA
    Jan. 11, 2014 12:54 a.m.

    For all byu fans out there that say that the pac 12 is the pac 10.2, I would rather be the fat girl at prom rather than the girl who wasn't invited. I mean if Utah sucks so bad why do they beat byu every year?
    Didn't byu just lose to a washington team that didn't have a coach and rested there starting qb and rb for the fourth quarter? But hey you beat middle tenessee state and 7 other mighty might teams so I guess you've earned the right to tell Utah that they're strugglin.

  • truthsandwich RANDOLPH, UT
    Jan. 11, 2014 1:06 a.m.

    @Phantom

    "Texas A&M beat Alabama in 2012. Alabama won the National Championship.
    Which accomplishment will be remembered most 10 years from now?"

    I'm sorry, but BYU's bowl game beat down at the hands of a middle-of-the-road Pac 12 team is not equivalent to Alabama winning a National Championship.

    The Utes finished ahead of BYU in the oft quoted Sagarin rankings, but to your argument: Utah's fourth consecutive victory over BYU in the Cougar's self-proclaimed Super Bowl will most definitely be "more memorable 10 years from now" than either team's insignificant final ranking.

  • Uncle festis Pasadena, CA
    Jan. 11, 2014 1:29 a.m.

    Rivals.com does a top 5 list of the best high school football players in the state of Utah every year. That would mean that since the utes joined the pac 12 four recruiting classes ago there have been 20 top five players of the state of Utah.
    Of those 20:
    Utah has signed- 10
    Byu has signed- 2
    Utah state- 0
    Other schools- 8

    Byu hasn't received a commitment from someone in the top 5 in the last 2 recruiting classes. So apparently kids in Utah that actually play the game would disagree that byu is the premier program in the state and don't think playing in the WAC/mountain worst/conference USA/ 5A region 4 to be that appealing

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Jan. 11, 2014 7:17 a.m.

    @phantomblade
    Bama and Texas play in the same league, BYU and USU play at a lower level (Utah is 8-1 against the lower level teams).

    BYU finished 2-5 vs Big 5 teams and both teams were 0-2 vs PAC 12, both teams would be bowl ineligible if they played in the PAC 12. Since both have less talent than Utah according to the NFL and class rankings it's pretty clear that both teams would challenge Colorado for last spot.

  • talkinsports Gilbert, AZ
    Jan. 11, 2014 7:30 a.m.

    LOL at CB's spin for a 3-star recruit

    On a national scale, best overall athletic program, Utah isn't even in the mix

    2013-14 Directors' Cup Division I Final Fall Standings
    As of January 9, 2014

    #11 BYU - 265.00 points
    #79 Utah - 75.00 points

    Final BCS Standings

    #40 BYU
    #54 Utah

  • talkinsports Gilbert, AZ
    Jan. 11, 2014 7:40 a.m.

    Director's Cup Scoring Structure for FBS Football

    1st place - 1-25 using the USA Today poll, point breakdown is as follows: We will be using the 64-team non-bracket point system for the top-25 teams with 25th place receiving 49 points.

    26th place - Bowl game winners not ranked in poll (45 points)

    Next Available Place - Bowl game losers not ranked in the poll (25 points)

    It's interesting that CB's supposedly "best program in the state" got ZERO points for football in 2012 and 2013.

  • MyPerspective Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 11, 2014 8:37 a.m.

    phantomblade

    BYU and USU both finished with winning records, both played in a bowl, and BYU was ranked higher than either in most final polls.

    Who, besides byu fans, actually go out and find a BCS ranking that ranks teams beyond 25? I didn't thing the BCS poll even did that. USA Today and AP polls show "others receiving votes" but the BCS poll doesn't do that. Said another way...who cares?

    With byu's incredibly 2011-2012'esq schedule next year, they will be bowling again, no question. byu's biggest challenge will be to avoid playing Pac-12 schools.

    Godfrey certainly looks like a solid recruit. He is the type (like Trevor Reilly) who is in on every play and not afraid to hit. Godfrey certainly caught the attention of some big time formerly known as BCS programs. Welcome to Utah, young man!

    Go Utes!

  • pocyUte Pocatello, ID
    Jan. 11, 2014 9:32 a.m.

    backpacn

    Do you actually follow recruiting or did you just look that up on ESPN?

    I ask that seriously, because, if you are truly following Utah's recruiting this year, you would know this is a very good class that is forming.

    I would recommend a great article by George O'leary, the coach at UCF. He talks about recruiting.

    The Utah coaches are focusing on speed and athleticism for the outside. That is the area they are focusing on. If you look at the last few years, you will find that the coaches focused on the both lines, LBs and QBs. Our D line and LBs were stellar this year. O-line struggled at times, but had some guys playing out of position. This year should show the talent that has been brought in on the O-line as Big Ike, and Hiva Lutui, Same Tevi (switching from DL to OL) and others battle for starting spots.

    The point is, when the coaches focus on something, they fix it. I trust the coaches' judgement much more than I trust ESPN's recruiting gurus.

  • oaklandaforlife SLC, UT
    Jan. 11, 2014 9:37 a.m.

    I love the recruiting theme for Utah - speed, speed and more speed.

  • Christine B. Hedgefog Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 11, 2014 10:00 a.m.

    Worf, not to worry. At the block U academic issues aren't a big consideration for admission.

  • theDailyObserver Salt Lake City, Utah
    Jan. 11, 2014 10:46 a.m.

    Overall, a good recruit for Utah. From the highlight film, it looks like Godfrey plays the DB position with the game in front of him. No worries though, ample bad coaching technique from Shah will put an end to that, and relegate Godfrey's college football career to a litany of lowlight PI calls and busted coverage for huge opponent gains. As a Utah fan, I hate to say that. But the bigger question remains-why is Shah still on Utah's staff?! I know Whitt doesn't fire buddies, but that personnel decision is beyond ridiculous.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Jan. 11, 2014 10:47 a.m.

    Perhaps this will enable the utes, to be competitive in at least one sport, in the PAC.

  • TroyTown Anaheim, CA
    Jan. 11, 2014 10:51 a.m.

    Uteology

    "Bama and Texas play in the same league"

    Bama and Texas have NEVER played in the same league.

    ---------------

    Your speculation about how BYU would do in the PAC 12 is just that, pure speculation. You have absolutely no proof that would be the case. In fact, Bronco's overall record versus PAC 12 teams proves just the opposite, Bronco is 9-9 (50%) versus PAC 12 teams, while Kyle is only 13-21 (38%).

    Against the 38th toughest schedule this year, Bronco was 8-5.
    Against the 41st toughest schedule last year, Kyle was 5-7.

  • TroyTown Anaheim, CA
    Jan. 11, 2014 11:16 a.m.

    Since Utah fans are still so obsessed with BYU that they're incapable of seeing the big picture, here's how Utah stacks up versus the PAC 12 in recruiting, according to Rivals rankings.

    PAC 10.2 Recruiting since Utah's glorious Sugar Bowl win

    2008 11th MWC 13-0 #2/#4, bcs bowl winner
    2009 7th MWC 10-3 #18/#18, bowl winner
    2010 7th MWC 10-3 ur/#23, bowl loser
    2011 6th PAC 8-5 unranked, bowl winner
    2012 7th PAC 5-7 unranked, no bowl
    2013 9th PAC 5-7 unranked, no bowl
    2014 8th PAC ???

    Average ranking 8th, solidly in the bottom half of the PAC, with only one recruiting class ranked, just barely, in the top half.

    Utah's recruiting has actually declined since 2011 when Utah first entered the PAC and Utah's football program has been in steady decline since 2008.

    Our little brothers continue to compare themselves to BYU, because they have absolutely nothing to beat their chests about when it comes to comparing themselves to the PAC 12.

  • phoenix Gilbert, AZ
    Jan. 11, 2014 11:27 a.m.

    pokyUte

    "If you look at the last few years, you will find that the coaches focused on the both lines, LBs and QBs."

    LOL!

    Utah's OL and QBs have struggled since 2008 and Whit has done little to address the situation other than hire a new OC every year.

    Chow was so shocked when he discovered how bare Utah's QB cupboard was, that he immediately went out and signed a QB whose school had just dropped football just to have a warm body in case injury-prone Jordan Wynn went down again.

  • skywalker Palo Alto, CA
    Jan. 11, 2014 11:44 a.m.

    MyPerspective

    In the Director's Cup scoring, playing in a bowl is the minimum threshold for receiving any points for football.

    Utah fans beat their chests about beating BYU because they have nothing else to brag about.

    The problem for U is NOBODY outside the Wasatch Front cares whether you beat BYU, or not, if you're not good enough to play in a bowl.

    -------------

    "BYU's biggest challenge will be to avoid playing Pac-12 schools."

    LOL at how uninformed you are.

    In 2014, BYU plays its final regular season game against a PAC 12 school, and already has games scheduled against USC, Stanford, Arizona, California, Washington St, and Utah.

  • pocyUte Pocatello, ID
    Jan. 11, 2014 11:52 a.m.

    Christine B

    Biggest misconception out there. If you understood the admission requirements for Utah in the Pac-12, you would understand that Utah, in the Pac-12, cannot take students under the previous Prop-48 exclusion clause meaning that a student can pay their own way for 1 year (essentially a redshirt year) then start playing the next year, they don't have to go the JUCO route.

    BYU on the other hand, because of their independent status, can admit prop 48 students, and has tried with students who still elected to go elsewhere. The only other schools that accept this type of student are team from power conferences such as the Sunbelt or like conferences.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Jan. 11, 2014 12:48 p.m.

    This is interesting, utah "fans" call this a "huge commit". Really? Now I admit up front I knew nothing about him before reading this article today, never heard of him, and of course other than as a name on some recruiting site none of the utah "fans" on here calling him a "huge commit" knew anything about him either. And of course none of them really know anything about him now.

    Looking him up on google, which sent me to several recruiting sites, it would appear he is a "3 star" safety, 3 stars means middle of the pack in a 5 star rating system, and the 126th safety in the country. Now once again just like utah "fans" I really don't know anything about this kid, but being a middle star 126th ranked safety hardly seems to me to be a "huge commit". Not based on what utah "fans" like christina b have been telling us about recruit rankings.

    But I'm accustomed to utah "fan" hyperbole and realize if you can't win games you have to try to excite yourself about winning the 126th ranked safety recruit. Let me congratulate you wholeheartedly.

  • pocyUte Pocatello, ID
    Jan. 11, 2014 1:10 p.m.

    Troytown

    there's actually pretty good evidence that BYU would be at the bottom of the Pac-12.

    Since Utah has been in the Pac-12, BYU is 1-5 in the Pac 12, their only winning coming against a horrid Oregon St. team in 2011, that finished 11th in the Pac-12.

    Over that same time, BYU has lost all 3 games to Utah, and most recently got boat raced by Washington who finished 6th in the Pac-12 and had an interim head coach.

    So yes, I think it's safe to say that BYU would be at the bottom of the Pac-12

  • Uncle festis Pasadena, CA
    Jan. 11, 2014 3:16 p.m.

    Troy town-
    According to who did byu have the 38th toughest schedule and Utah had the 41st?
    Utah played 5 teams that ended the season ranked in the top 25 and byu didn't play anyone that finished ranked, so I have no idea what website you had to go to in order to get that stat.

  • ekute Layton, UT
    Jan. 11, 2014 5:43 p.m.

    Duckhunter,
    That's ok, you'll see him first hand and up close in 2016. In 2008, I remember a byu "fan" telling me that they had never heard of Paul Kruger.

  • Utah'95 FPO, AE
    Jan. 11, 2014 6:07 p.m.

    I don't know why, but there is a big discrepancy between how Scout sees Godfrey, and how ESPN, Rivals, and 24/7 Sports see him. It's true that Scout ranks him as the 126th best safety recruit, but ESPN, Rivals, and 24/7 rank him as the 33rd, 47th, and 38th best safety recruit this year.

    In addition, he numerous programs offer him a scholarship, including UCLA, Wisconsin, and nine other Big 5 programs.

    Sounds like a good get to me.

    Go Utes!

  • MyPerspective Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 11, 2014 7:03 p.m.

    pocyUte
    Pocatello, ID

    Troytown

    "...there's actually pretty good evidence that BYU would be at the bottom of the Pac-12."

    There is no one on the planet better at talking and dreaming and dreaming and talking than byu fans. It's easy for them to talk about how great they are when they will never have to prove it. byu is not part of the Pac-12. They never will be because the bar is too high. Further, none of this has anything to do with Godfrey.

    This is a nice pick up for the Utes. A number of big time programs offered him and chose the Utes. I agree with a post above, this class is shaping up nicely.

  • pocyUte Pocatello, ID
    Jan. 11, 2014 8:46 p.m.

    Duck

    Apparently a lot of other schools thought Godfrey was a real player. You haven't heard of him? Shocked, because he isn't in Utah county. Oddly enough, football is played outside of Utah County.

    And if all you need to do to value a recruit is google him, why do these coaches even look at film.

    LOL

  • Reno Cougs Fan 68 Reno, NV
    Jan. 11, 2014 9:46 p.m.

    Nice pick up Utes!!! My only question is why are you the Ute faithful only giving us a comparison of recruiting between Utah and BYU? Where does the U stand in their own conference? Is Dr. Hill and the rest of Ute nation now able to sleep now that the Texas and Penn St. jobs are filled? I am sure Coach Whit or Dennis Erickson were finalist for both jobs!!! Good luck Sunday against WSU!!!

    Go Cougs Rise Up!!!!

  • Reno Cougs Fan 68 Reno, NV
    Jan. 11, 2014 10:01 p.m.

    PocyUte,
    Since the Utes recruiting has gone up since joining the PAC12 is it not a safe bet that the same would be for BYU if they were in the PAC or BIG12? So your assumption that BYU would have a much worse record is just that an assumption and not based on any facts!!!

    Go Cougs Rise Up!!!

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    Jan. 11, 2014 10:19 p.m.

    theDailyObserver--

    "Overall, a good recruit for Utah. From the highlight film, it looks like Godfrey plays the DB position with the game in front of him. No worries though, ample bad coaching technique from Shah will put an end to that, and relegate Godfrey's college football career to a litany of lowlight PI calls and busted coverage for huge opponent gains. As a Utah fan, I hate to say that. But the bigger question remains-why is Shah still on Utah's staff?! I know Whitt doesn't fire buddies, but that personnel decision is beyond ridiculous."

    Coach SS coaches CBs, not Safeties....Andre Godfrey plays SS, not CB....His position coach will be Morgan Scalley.

    Coach SS did well enough to coach-up CB Keith McGill in 1st-YR at this position to Senior Bowl invitation....He'll do likewise w/Eric Rowe in '14....We were extremely inexperienced at CB coming into '13, yet we significantly improved throughout the year....Only knock on the entire secondary was lack of INTs, yet they performed admirably against one of nation's #3 SOS.

    U fans already know all of this.

    Beat-out UCLA/WISC, etc., for S AG!

    Go Utes!

  • UtesBy5 Syracuse, UT
    Jan. 12, 2014 3:54 a.m.

    @TroyTown


    "Since Utah fans are still so obsessed with BYU"

    This is a University of Utah article. It appears that you and many other byu "fans" seem to be obsessed with Utah based on the percentage of comments coming from byu "fans".

    Godfrey will be a nice DB. Several other offers from major conference programs confirms his value. Godfrey was recruited by Dennis Erikson who is an excellent judge of talent.

    Nice work Coach Erikson. Good luck to Andre at the U of U.

  • thebigsamoan Richmond, VA
    Jan. 12, 2014 4:39 a.m.

    The kid sounds like another great recruit for the Utes! One more piece of the puzzle they need to ensure bowl eligibility for them this year I hope! They have to do that or else there will be some major changes to their coaching staff and that cannot be good for this kid's sake. He sounded like he's banking on his coaches to be there for him the whole four years! Good luck to him and the Utes!

  • pocyUte Pocatello, ID
    Jan. 12, 2014 6:36 a.m.

    Phoenix

    Again, I said over the past 2-3 years.

    If you look at Utah's QB recruiting over those years

    Travis Wilson, invited to the Elite 11 (Junior)

    Manning (RS Freshman: Broke almost all of Barkley's passing records in their league in California)

    Cox (RS Freshman: Was challenging Wilson for the starting spot before his injury during spring ball)

    Thomas (RS Freshman: Will likely move to the defense)

    Isom (Incoming Freshman: A huge dude tearing it up in Louisiana)

    My point was that when the coaching staff focuses on a need, they find the talent and they fix it.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Jan. 12, 2014 8:13 a.m.

    Quite funny seeing all of the hype over a 126th pick.

    Of course I temper this comment because I'm reminded that some people get pretty excited over regular OC announcements as well.

  • pocyUte Pocatello, ID
    Jan. 12, 2014 10:34 a.m.

    Reno

    I was merely responding to Troytown who said there is no evidence that BYU would be at the bottom of the Pac-12.

    I think your assumption is correct that eventually BYU would see an increase in recruiting and talent. But the facts of their record over the past 3 years shows they aren't even a midland team in the PAC-12 at this point. I don't doubt that BYU would be better, over time, but if BYU came into the Pac-12 right now, they would struggle mightily.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Jan. 12, 2014 1:28 p.m.

    @TroyTown

    Your speculation about how BYU would do in the PAC 12 is just that, pure speculation.

    ---------

    No it's not, it's based on inductive reasoning:

    NFL Talent (as per draft since 2005, under Bronco):
    USC 53
    Oregon 39
    Stanford 32
    Utah 31
    Colorado 15
    BYU 13
    Washington State 11

    Recruiting Talent (average P12 rankings over 3 years, as per Rivals):
    #1 USC
    #4 Washington
    #7 Utah
    #9 Arizona
    #11 BYU (#63 avg national class ranking).
    #12 Washington State

    Coaching? The only one in demand in Robert Anna so I am assuming coaching is about average since:

    * No undefeated seasons in the BCS era
    * No BCS bowls
    * No BCS Bowl wins
    * No top 10 finishes (Utah 2, TCU 4)
    * Losing record against BCS teams
    * Losing record against top-mid majors (3-9 vs. Utah, 2-5 vs. TCU, and 1-3 vs. Boise)
    * Losing record against PAC-12 teams in the BCS era
    * 62% of BMs total wins were against losing teams

  • UtesBy5 Syracuse, UT
    Jan. 12, 2014 2:48 p.m.

    Sammy,

    Godfrey was rated an 89 by 24/7 and listed as the 38th best safety in the country. 13 BCS programs offered him a scholarship so he must be a very talented DB.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Jan. 12, 2014 4:57 p.m.

    @utesby5

    Ok, but so what? He is hardly a "huge get" as several utah "fans" have claimed. He is a decent recruit, no more.

    In fact back just before this previous season began one of the Utah "fans" on here, stg if I remember correctly, was telling me that BYU's defensive backs were all terrible and would be the worst part of the team. I pointed out to him that BYU's starting safeties, Sorenson and Bills, were not only not terrible but were actually highly ranked recruits coming out of high school with multiple bcs school offers. Sorenson was a top 50 rated safety recruit and Bills was a top 10, that's right TOP 10, rated recruit, and was recruited by just about every school you can imagine. he then of course reiterated how terrible they are in his opinion, blah, blah, blah.

    Interestingly he has now posted on this article what a great commit this is for utah despite not being near the caliber of recruit BYU's safeties are. I shouldn't have to point out the irony/hypocrisy but obviously I do.

  • UtesBy5 Syracuse, UT
    Jan. 12, 2014 11:14 p.m.

    @duckhunter

    "I pointed out to him that BYU's starting safeties, Sorenson and Bills, were not only not terrible but were actually highly ranked recruits coming out of high school with multiple bcs school offers. Sorenson was a top 50 rated safety recruit and Bills was a top 10, that's right TOP 10, rated recruit, and was recruited by just about every school you can imagine."

    I checked all of the recruiting services and found that Bills was offered by BYU and no BCS schools. Sorensen was offered by BYU and one BCS school: Mississippi. Based on your post I was imagining many, many BCS programs offering Bills a scholarship.

    Bills was rated the #15 Safety in his class by Scout, #149 by ESPN, #10 by Rivals and 24/7 rated his composite score #21.

    Sorensen was rated the #85 Safety in his class by Scout, NR by ESPN, #55 by Rivals and wasn't in the 24/7 database.

    Godfrey is rated #126 by Scout, #33 by ESPN, #47 by Rivals and has a composite score of #38 by 24/7. Godfrey has 17 offers including 13 from BCS programs.

    I like how Bills and Sorensen play, they are solid safeties. Godfrey looks to be a good recruit for Utah.

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Jan. 12, 2014 11:46 p.m.

    Duck, what I ACTUALLY said:

    "(Johnson) was the anchor as likely the only solid defensive back in the lineup."

    "Sorensen is good in run support, but neither (Sorensen or Bills) looked good in coverage."

    Then you told me they were both "EXCELLENT" pass defenders. What's interesting, after hearing your claims of "just about every school you can imagine" recruiting Bills is that BYU is the only one listed as having offered him a scholarship. And Sorensen was rated as the 55th safety by Rivals (close to what you said, but 55 is not "top 50") and 85th by Scout. At that time, Bills had recorded 2 INTs and 5 PBUs against Wyoming, Tulane, Idaho and San Diego State (none of them respected passing offenses). This year he looked a little better against better competition, but far from "EXCELLENT." Sorensen is 36th rated safety in this draft class, and not projected to be drafted. Again, not "EXCELLENT."

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Jan. 13, 2014 8:03 a.m.

    contd.

    I say that not to minimize those players, because, while not currently considered pro caliber players, I think they're both fine athletes, seem like good guys, and being disrespectful towards student athletes is not something I do. But how one can come here and try to slander me by telling an absolute lie about something I said while sensationalizing their own favorite team's players expressly to minimize another's is inexcusable.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Jan. 13, 2014 9:44 a.m.

    @utesby5

    So according to the utah "fan" recruiting bible rivals Bills was a top 10 safety recruit. Thanks for confirming that fact. And of course I said he was "recruited" by just about everyone and he was. He committed to BYU very early and made it known he would not change his mind, hence the other teams giving up on recruiting him. Interesting he would still be so highly rated with what you claim are a lack of offers. That doesn't happen often.

    @stg

    They both were excellent pass defenders this year, they did a great job. Far, far, far, far, far, better than your "expert" assessment. Far, far, far, far, far better than any safety utah put on the field. In fact your man love for rowe appears to have been more than a bit misplaced. And yes Sorenson is getting some NFL interest. Who knows if he'll be drafted but he is a prospect and when you have two safeties that are NFL prospects they are far, far, far, far, far better than some utah "fan", who apparently knows nothing, claims they are.

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Jan. 13, 2014 10:44 a.m.

    Duckhunter, no, Rowe did not perform as well as I'd hoped the former Freshman All-American would this year. Regardless, he'll get "some NFL interest" next year as well, by virtue of his experience and graduating, just as Sorensen is. You have a very loose interpretation of "excellent," and for that I can't help you. Excellent and great to me would indicate a top 10 player in their class at their position, with more than a fighter's chance at a lasting career in football. And do you know what happened in the wake of my "expert" assessment? BYU gave up more passing yards per game this year without Jordan Johnson, and let almost all semi-competent passing teams' #1 WRs run wild against them, including Mike Davis, Dres Anderson, Davaris Daniels, and some guys named Daniel Spencer, Xavier Maxwell, and Brandon Wimberly.

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Jan. 13, 2014 11:31 a.m.

    And thank you for showcasing exactly what I said in sensationalizing anything anyone from BYU has ever done with the sole intention of minimizing Utah's players. You made that far, far, far, far, far, far, far too obvious. I shouldn't have to point out the irony/hypocrisy but obviously I do.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Jan. 13, 2014 11:57 a.m.

    @utesby5

    godfrey does appear to be a good recruit, just not worthy of the over the top hyperbole utah "fans" are heaping on in this comment section. But as I said before none of us really know anything about him, good, bad, great, bust, nothing, we don't know. And that is why I enjoy mocking utah "fans" so much about this stuff. Everytime a new commit is announced for utah a bunch of their "fans" get on here and act like they are the greatest players in the world when in fact utah just about never gets any committments from anything higher than a middle of the star ratings 3 star anything. They likewise bag on the guys BYU gets despite the fact they are pretty similar overall. In fact BYU's recruits average star ranking is higher than utah's in both rivals and scout this year. utah has an overall higher ranking based on having more committments. Of course that means utah's has little room to rise whereas BYU's can go higher.

    It is just fun to get them all worked up and trying to defend their hypocrisy, like stg is doing right now. lol

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Jan. 13, 2014 12:25 p.m.

    Duckhunter: "It is just fun to get them all worked up and trying to defend their hypocrisy, like stg is doing right now."

    What hypocrisy am I defending? You straight up lied about several points, which included an attack on me. You are the only hypocrite in this argument. I posted about Utah Football recruiting, and you came to attack people and blatantly make things up. I've posted several complimentary remarks about BYU players in the past few months, and all you do is come trash Utah fans, players and coaches, and make your own over the top statements about BYU guys.

  • eric2002x Miami, FL
    Jan. 13, 2014 12:32 p.m.

    "I know the coaches are loyal to the program and will be there for the entire time I'm there."

    LOLOLOLOL

  • eric2002x Miami, FL
    Jan. 13, 2014 12:39 p.m.

    If ChrisB and gang only compare to other Utah schools, what is the point? Compared to other PAC and Top programs, Utah is nowhere closer to being elite in recruiting than 4 years ago. The average position in major recruiting sites such as Scout and Rivals is in the 40's. Being 43th Best in the Nation for 4 straight years is "nothing to write home about". In PAC recruiting, Utah's classes have been consistently ranked in position 9-11 (out of 12, of course).

  • pocyUte Pocatello, ID
    Jan. 13, 2014 2:44 p.m.

    Boy,

    It really ruffles some feathers if Ute fans are excited about a recruit. Goodness.

    The reality is that Godfrey is a huge recruit. He is expected to come in and contribute right away. I would say that Eric Weddle was a huge recruit too, despite the fact that he was a 2 star.

    Recruiting insiders have reported that Godfrey was very high on the coaches list. Therefore, he is a huge get for the program.

    However, some individuals on this board continue hammer on class rankings or and internet evaluations. Frankly, I will put my money on people who's job depends on properly evaluating the talent, not writing stories about them.

  • UtesBy5 Syracuse, UT
    Jan. 13, 2014 3:01 p.m.

    @duckhunter:

    I think you and I both know that schools continue to recruit and offer scholarships up until signing day. These recruits are high school teenage boys that often change their minds. Case in point, Utah recruit Kenyon Frison from Granger High. Kenyon verbally accepted Utah's offer in February, 2012. Since that time several other schools have recruited him. Oklahoma coaches have visited him twice and Nebraska and ASU have January visits planned for Kenyon to visit their campuses. All three programs offered after he verbally accepted the Utah offer. My point, the good players continue to get recruited until they sign.

    Craig Bills committed to byu on June 25, 2008 and signed to play on February 4, 2009. He wasn't offered a scholarship by any program before or after his verbal commitment. LSU, Colorado and Utah looked at him but didn't offer. If you think other programs stopped looking at him because he gave byu a verbal commitment then I've got some ocean front land to sell you up here in Davis County. Maybe ESPN was closer to reality by ranking him #149? Website to support your claims?

  • daviscoug Syracuse, UT
    Jan. 13, 2014 4:33 p.m.

    Here's a thought for all the Chris B's and Duckhunters out there:

    Why don't we just wait and see how good the kid is? I would say that outside of the perennial top 10 teams that no recruiting class ever pans out exactly as expected or ranked. SI.com did a fascinating article about this a few years ago (forgot the title). They took a specific year's recruiting classes for several universities and re-ranked them. Guess what? Each and every one of them had changed in a material way. You never know how a 17 year-old is going to develop. Will he grow? Will he learn? Can he be coached? Will he transfer for any myriad number of reasons? Will coaches change? Will injuries take their toll? Or, in the worst case, will they leave the school/sport completely? Each of these could be a negative or a positive depending on the recruit and the school.

    I hope Godfrey works out well for the Utes. Not because I love the Utes but because every kid deserves the best shot they can get.

  • wwookie Payson, UT
    Jan. 15, 2014 8:52 a.m.

    47th best DB in the country per Rivals.

    We won a close recruitng battle as his final three included Wisconson, who was really going after this kid.

    Nice work by coaching staff to get Andre out to SLC so he could really see what a top tier program and city the Utes have.