Huge commit. I love how this class is coming together.Welcome to
the Ute Family, Andre.Go UTES!!
Big time pick up for Utah. A ton of prestigious programs wanted him and he
knows Utah has a bright Pac 12 future.And yes, the number of guys
Kyle Whittingham puts in the NFL came into play here.Best program in
UtahBest coach in UtahThe Pac 12 Utah Utes
Not only has Utah won the head to head AND average star recruiting EVERY year
the last 4 years, but Utah's worst year of the last 4 years is better than
any other school in Utah's best year of the last 4 years.And
once again, we can thank our Pac 12 membership for a lot of that. Most big time
players want to play for big time programs and play against other prestigious
big time programs week in and week out.Welcome aboard Andre!Go Utes, onward and upward
Why did it take so long for any local papers to report this? He had
offers to UCLA and Wisconsin, among many others. Great get for the U. Welcome Andre! GO UTES!
Big time commit. The Ute defense is looking like it will be stacked next year.
Now we just need a QB to make it through the year without a major injury.
Top safety?The kid is a 3 star recruit and is the #126 safety in the
country according to scout.Nothing to write home about.
@Fight on"Nothing to write home about."UCLA,
Wisconsin, and West Virginia were hoping to be able to write home about him.I guess they should have consulted you first.
We just got more stars than before and now we are more prestegous than even
before so here we come rose Bowl!Go Utes!
truthsandwich,That was funny, though lets be honest, "Fight
On" set you up nicely for that one.Pretty tough for any unbiased
observer to deny that Godfrey is a fantastic commit for the Utes.
Congrats on the recruit. And as much as you would like it to be Chris the Utes
are the best team in the state behind Utah State. SI just ranked Utah
State 25th in the nation.
"Utah has a lot of good coaching stability"Since he plays
defense he probably, understandably, doesn't care that we're on our
15th OC in 15 years, but one wonders if he considered when he make that comment
that he'll more than likely see a whole new coaching staff for his
Erickson's contributions to the team are paying big dividends in
recruiting. In addition to Godfrey, who looks like a very good recruit, they
have commitments from two other decent DB prospects, and very likely could get
another good one from WR Kenric Young, who has offers from Wisconsin, UCF,
Nebraska, Mizzou, and Minnesota, among a lot of others.
Does the kid know there is never a week off in the pac10.2 when you are a
ute?There is a week off in the pac10.2 when you play the utes
Northern, while I would like to agree with you... no utah schools are in the SI
top 25.USU did get 2 votes, but that's it.Oregon,
Stanford, UCLA, USC, Arizona State, Washington did make the top 25 from the
pac... I guess that makes the utes good? LOL
Meant to mention that the other two DBs, Monte Seabrook and Tavaris Williams, as
well as Young are all from Florida, which is Erickson's primary recruiting
zone. Forgot to mention, though, that Brandon Snell, JUCO All-American WR, a
Louisville commit out of high school before opting to go JUCO and reopen his
options, is also from Miami. Those are some great in-roads to make with coaches
in that area.
Great pickup! Our secondary with a healthy Bleechan and Miami transfer LB
Gionni Paul was already looking better then this year, adding Godfrey will only
add much needed PAC-12 depth.@Ifel Of'a-sofa: "There is a
week off in the pac10.2 when you play the utes however."#11
Awesome pickup! He knows about Wedds, and hopes to play like him. Sounds like
he's already on the right track! Go Utes!
This is a great pickup for the U. The next few years they should be loaded at
Congratulations to the Utes for getting such a great commit. Wouldn't it be
wonderful if the results of gaining these great commits would show on the field
playing against the rest of the PAC 10+2. Perhaps if the Utes get about 20 more
they can win more than 2 games next year. Not knocking your team, just
acknowledging your schedule. Looking like 1 sure win, 3 toss-ups, and 8 sure
pocyUte"Huge commit. I love how this class is coming
together."One of the weakest recruiting classes in the PAC
12.ASU, Arizona, USC, UCLA, Stanford and Oregon all have ESPN Top 40
recruiting classes.Utah isn't even close.
It would be interesting to know what the Utes are promising new recruits, since
they can't promise a bowl experience.
Top safety? Top of what? the U offered scholarships to 24 safeties. 16 of them
are rated higher than this young man. He is ranked as the 126th best safety in
the country. A good pickup for the U but hardly a top prospect.Just
Andre Godfrey is a nice 3-star recruit for the Utes, but hardly the type of
player that will create even a ripple of concern throughout the rest of the
@midpacmajor"hardly the type of player that will create even a
ripple of concern throughout the rest of the league."He does
seem to be creating quite a ripple among byu trolls.I'm
guessing UCLA is a little concerned, since they recruited him.
Final BCS Ranking 2014:42 - BYU45 - USU82 - uofu
Best wishes to this young man for success on the field and in the classroom at
the U.I also hope his confidence in the stability of the coaching
staff turns out to be well-founded.
@Ifel"Final BCS Ranking 2014"Final record of
those teams actually playing against each other:Utah 2-0BYU
truthsandwichThe only thing that really matters is final overall
record and ranking.Texas A&M beat Alabama in 2012. Alabama won
the National Championship.Which accomplishment will be remembered most 10
years from now?BYU and USU both finished with winning records, both
played in a bowl, and BYU was ranked higher than either in most final polls.BYU has nine straight bowl appearances.USU has three straight bowl
appearance.Utah hasn't played in a bowl since 2011.On the
bright side, the Utes are doing better than their new "rival". The
Buffaloes haven't played in a bowl since 2007 and haven't finished the
season with a winning record since 2005.
CB"Utah's worst year of the last 4 years is better than any
other school in Utah's best year of the last 4 years."Utah
doesn't even play BYU or USU next season, so what difference does it make
whether Utah has the best or the worst recruiting class in the state?Shouldn't your primary focus be on how Utah's recruiting stacks up
against PAC 12 teams?Of course, spouting off about Utah's
"great" recruiting classes to USC, UCLA, Stanford, Oregon, Arizona, ASU,
and Washington fans would simply expose U as the conference cellar dweller that
you really are.
For all byu fans out there that say that the pac 12 is the pac 10.2, I would
rather be the fat girl at prom rather than the girl who wasn't invited. I
mean if Utah sucks so bad why do they beat byu every year? Didn't byu
just lose to a washington team that didn't have a coach and rested there
starting qb and rb for the fourth quarter? But hey you beat middle tenessee
state and 7 other mighty might teams so I guess you've earned the right to
tell Utah that they're strugglin.
@Phantom"Texas A&M beat Alabama in 2012. Alabama won the
National Championship.Which accomplishment will be remembered most 10
years from now?"I'm sorry, but BYU's bowl game beat
down at the hands of a middle-of-the-road Pac 12 team is not equivalent to
Alabama winning a National Championship. The Utes finished ahead of
BYU in the oft quoted Sagarin rankings, but to your argument: Utah's fourth
consecutive victory over BYU in the Cougar's self-proclaimed Super Bowl
will most definitely be "more memorable 10 years from now" than either
team's insignificant final ranking.
Rivals.com does a top 5 list of the best high school football players in the
state of Utah every year. That would mean that since the utes joined the pac 12
four recruiting classes ago there have been 20 top five players of the state of
Utah.Of those 20:Utah has signed- 10 Byu has signed- 2Utah state- 0Other schools- 8Byu hasn't received a
commitment from someone in the top 5 in the last 2 recruiting classes. So
apparently kids in Utah that actually play the game would disagree that byu is
the premier program in the state and don't think playing in the
WAC/mountain worst/conference USA/ 5A region 4 to be that appealing
@phantombladeBama and Texas play in the same league, BYU and USU play at a
lower level (Utah is 8-1 against the lower level teams).BYU finished
2-5 vs Big 5 teams and both teams were 0-2 vs PAC 12, both teams would be bowl
ineligible if they played in the PAC 12. Since both have less talent than Utah
according to the NFL and class rankings it's pretty clear that both teams
would challenge Colorado for last spot.
LOL at CB's spin for a 3-star recruitOn a national scale, best
overall athletic program, Utah isn't even in the mix2013-14
Directors' Cup Division I Final Fall StandingsAs of January 9,
2014#11 BYU - 265.00 points#79 Utah - 75.00 pointsFinal BCS Standings#40 BYU#54 Utah
Director's Cup Scoring Structure for FBS Football1st place -
1-25 using the USA Today poll, point breakdown is as follows: We will be using
the 64-team non-bracket point system for the top-25 teams with 25th place
receiving 49 points.26th place - Bowl game winners not ranked in
poll (45 points)Next Available Place - Bowl game losers not ranked
in the poll (25 points)It's interesting that CB's
supposedly "best program in the state" got ZERO points for football in
2012 and 2013.
phantombladeBYU and USU both finished with winning records, both
played in a bowl, and BYU was ranked higher than either in most final polls.Who, besides byu fans, actually go out and find a BCS ranking that ranks
teams beyond 25? I didn't thing the BCS poll even did that. USA Today and
AP polls show "others receiving votes" but the BCS poll doesn't do
that. Said another way...who cares?With byu's incredibly
2011-2012'esq schedule next year, they will be bowling again, no question.
byu's biggest challenge will be to avoid playing Pac-12 schools. Godfrey certainly looks like a solid recruit. He is the type (like Trevor
Reilly) who is in on every play and not afraid to hit. Godfrey certainly caught
the attention of some big time formerly known as BCS programs. Welcome to Utah,
young man!Go Utes!
backpacnDo you actually follow recruiting or did you just look that
up on ESPN?I ask that seriously, because, if you are truly following
Utah's recruiting this year, you would know this is a very good class that
is forming.I would recommend a great article by George O'leary,
the coach at UCF. He talks about recruiting. The Utah coaches are
focusing on speed and athleticism for the outside. That is the area they are
focusing on. If you look at the last few years, you will find that the coaches
focused on the both lines, LBs and QBs. Our D line and LBs were stellar this
year. O-line struggled at times, but had some guys playing out of position.
This year should show the talent that has been brought in on the O-line as Big
Ike, and Hiva Lutui, Same Tevi (switching from DL to OL) and others battle for
starting spots. The point is, when the coaches focus on something,
they fix it. I trust the coaches' judgement much more than I trust
ESPN's recruiting gurus.
I love the recruiting theme for Utah - speed, speed and more speed.
Worf, not to worry. At the block U academic issues aren't a big
consideration for admission.
Overall, a good recruit for Utah. From the highlight film, it looks like Godfrey
plays the DB position with the game in front of him. No worries though, ample
bad coaching technique from Shah will put an end to that, and relegate
Godfrey's college football career to a litany of lowlight PI calls and
busted coverage for huge opponent gains. As a Utah fan, I hate to say that. But
the bigger question remains-why is Shah still on Utah's staff?! I know
Whitt doesn't fire buddies, but that personnel decision is beyond
Perhaps this will enable the utes, to be competitive in at least one sport, in
Uteology"Bama and Texas play in the same league"Bama and Texas have NEVER played in the same league.---------------Your speculation about how BYU would do in the PAC
12 is just that, pure speculation. You have absolutely no proof that would be
the case. In fact, Bronco's overall record versus PAC 12 teams proves just
the opposite, Bronco is 9-9 (50%) versus PAC 12 teams, while Kyle is only 13-21
(38%).Against the 38th toughest schedule this year, Bronco was
8-5.Against the 41st toughest schedule last year, Kyle was 5-7.
Since Utah fans are still so obsessed with BYU that they're incapable of
seeing the big picture, here's how Utah stacks up versus the PAC 12 in
recruiting, according to Rivals rankings.PAC 10.2 Recruiting since
Utah's glorious Sugar Bowl win2008 11th MWC 13-0 #2/#4, bcs
bowl winner2009 7th MWC 10-3 #18/#18, bowl winner2010 7th MWC 10-3
ur/#23, bowl loser2011 6th PAC 8-5 unranked, bowl winner2012 7th PAC
5-7 unranked, no bowl2013 9th PAC 5-7 unranked, no bowl2014 8th PAC
???Average ranking 8th, solidly in the bottom half of the PAC, with
only one recruiting class ranked, just barely, in the top half.Utah's recruiting has actually declined since 2011 when Utah first
entered the PAC and Utah's football program has been in steady decline
since 2008.Our little brothers continue to compare themselves to
BYU, because they have absolutely nothing to beat their chests about when it
comes to comparing themselves to the PAC 12.
pokyUte"If you look at the last few years, you will find that
the coaches focused on the both lines, LBs and QBs."LOL!Utah's OL and QBs have struggled since 2008 and Whit has done
little to address the situation other than hire a new OC every year.Chow was so shocked when he discovered how bare Utah's QB cupboard was,
that he immediately went out and signed a QB whose school had just dropped
football just to have a warm body in case injury-prone Jordan Wynn went down
MyPerspectiveIn the Director's Cup scoring, playing in a bowl
is the minimum threshold for receiving any points for football.Utah
fans beat their chests about beating BYU because they have nothing else to brag
about.The problem for U is NOBODY outside the Wasatch Front cares
whether you beat BYU, or not, if you're not good enough to play in a
bowl.-------------"BYU's biggest challenge will
be to avoid playing Pac-12 schools."LOL at how uninformed you
are.In 2014, BYU plays its final regular season game against a PAC
12 school, and already has games scheduled against USC, Stanford, Arizona,
California, Washington St, and Utah.
Christine BBiggest misconception out there. If you understood the
admission requirements for Utah in the Pac-12, you would understand that Utah,
in the Pac-12, cannot take students under the previous Prop-48 exclusion clause
meaning that a student can pay their own way for 1 year (essentially a redshirt
year) then start playing the next year, they don't have to go the JUCO
route. BYU on the other hand, because of their independent status,
can admit prop 48 students, and has tried with students who still elected to go
elsewhere. The only other schools that accept this type of student are team
from power conferences such as the Sunbelt or like conferences.
This is interesting, utah "fans" call this a "huge commit".
Really? Now I admit up front I knew nothing about him before reading this
article today, never heard of him, and of course other than as a name on some
recruiting site none of the utah "fans" on here calling him a "huge
commit" knew anything about him either. And of course none of them really
know anything about him now. Looking him up on google, which sent me
to several recruiting sites, it would appear he is a "3 star" safety, 3
stars means middle of the pack in a 5 star rating system, and the 126th safety
in the country. Now once again just like utah "fans" I really don't
know anything about this kid, but being a middle star 126th ranked safety hardly
seems to me to be a "huge commit". Not based on what utah "fans"
like christina b have been telling us about recruit rankings. But
I'm accustomed to utah "fan" hyperbole and realize if you
can't win games you have to try to excite yourself about winning the 126th
ranked safety recruit. Let me congratulate you wholeheartedly.
Troytownthere's actually pretty good evidence that BYU would be
at the bottom of the Pac-12.Since Utah has been in the Pac-12, BYU
is 1-5 in the Pac 12, their only winning coming against a horrid Oregon St. team
in 2011, that finished 11th in the Pac-12.Over that same time, BYU
has lost all 3 games to Utah, and most recently got boat raced by Washington who
finished 6th in the Pac-12 and had an interim head coach.So yes, I
think it's safe to say that BYU would be at the bottom of the Pac-12
Troy town- According to who did byu have the 38th toughest schedule and
Utah had the 41st?Utah played 5 teams that ended the season ranked in the
top 25 and byu didn't play anyone that finished ranked, so I have no idea
what website you had to go to in order to get that stat.
Duckhunter,That's ok, you'll see him first hand and up close in
2016. In 2008, I remember a byu "fan" telling me that they had never
heard of Paul Kruger.
I don't know why, but there is a big discrepancy between how Scout sees
Godfrey, and how ESPN, Rivals, and 24/7 Sports see him. It's true that
Scout ranks him as the 126th best safety recruit, but ESPN, Rivals, and 24/7
rank him as the 33rd, 47th, and 38th best safety recruit this year.In addition, he numerous programs offer him a scholarship, including UCLA,
Wisconsin, and nine other Big 5 programs.Sounds like a good get to
actually pretty good evidence that BYU would be at the bottom of the
Pac-12."There is no one on the planet better at talking and
dreaming and dreaming and talking than byu fans. It's easy for them to
talk about how great they are when they will never have to prove it. byu is not
part of the Pac-12. They never will be because the bar is too high. Further,
none of this has anything to do with Godfrey.This is a nice pick up
for the Utes. A number of big time programs offered him and chose the Utes. I
agree with a post above, this class is shaping up nicely.
DuckApparently a lot of other schools thought Godfrey was a real
player. You haven't heard of him? Shocked, because he isn't in Utah
county. Oddly enough, football is played outside of Utah County.And
if all you need to do to value a recruit is google him, why do these coaches
even look at film.LOL
Nice pick up Utes!!! My only question is why are you the Ute faithful only
giving us a comparison of recruiting between Utah and BYU? Where does the U
stand in their own conference? Is Dr. Hill and the rest of Ute nation now able
to sleep now that the Texas and Penn St. jobs are filled? I am sure Coach Whit
or Dennis Erickson were finalist for both jobs!!! Good luck Sunday against
WSU!!!Go Cougs Rise Up!!!!
PocyUte,Since the Utes recruiting has gone up since joining the PAC12 is
it not a safe bet that the same would be for BYU if they were in the PAC or
BIG12? So your assumption that BYU would have a much worse record is just that
an assumption and not based on any facts!!!Go Cougs Rise Up!!!
theDailyObserver--"Overall, a good recruit for Utah. From the
highlight film, it looks like Godfrey plays the DB position with the game in
front of him. No worries though, ample bad coaching technique from Shah will put
an end to that, and relegate Godfrey's college football career to a litany
of lowlight PI calls and busted coverage for huge opponent gains. As a Utah fan,
I hate to say that. But the bigger question remains-why is Shah still on
Utah's staff?! I know Whitt doesn't fire buddies, but that personnel
decision is beyond ridiculous."Coach SS coaches CBs, not
Safeties....Andre Godfrey plays SS, not CB....His position coach will be Morgan
Scalley.Coach SS did well enough to coach-up CB Keith McGill in
1st-YR at this position to Senior Bowl invitation....He'll do likewise
w/Eric Rowe in '14....We were extremely inexperienced at CB coming into
'13, yet we significantly improved throughout the year....Only knock on the
entire secondary was lack of INTs, yet they performed admirably against one of
nation's #3 SOS.U fans already know all of this.Beat-out UCLA/WISC, etc., for S AG!Go Utes!
@TroyTown "Since Utah fans are still so obsessed with
BYU"This is a University of Utah article. It appears that you
and many other byu "fans" seem to be obsessed with Utah based on the
percentage of comments coming from byu "fans".Godfrey will
be a nice DB. Several other offers from major conference programs confirms his
value. Godfrey was recruited by Dennis Erikson who is an excellent judge of
talent.Nice work Coach Erikson. Good luck to Andre at the U of U.
The kid sounds like another great recruit for the Utes! One more piece of the
puzzle they need to ensure bowl eligibility for them this year I hope! They
have to do that or else there will be some major changes to their coaching staff
and that cannot be good for this kid's sake. He sounded like he's
banking on his coaches to be there for him the whole four years! Good luck to
him and the Utes!
PhoenixAgain, I said over the past 2-3 years.If you look
at Utah's QB recruiting over those yearsTravis Wilson, invited
to the Elite 11 (Junior)Manning (RS Freshman: Broke almost all of
Barkley's passing records in their league in California)Cox (RS
Freshman: Was challenging Wilson for the starting spot before his injury during
spring ball)Thomas (RS Freshman: Will likely move to the defense)Isom (Incoming Freshman: A huge dude tearing it up in Louisiana)My point was that when the coaching staff focuses on a need, they find
the talent and they fix it.
Quite funny seeing all of the hype over a 126th pick.Of course I
temper this comment because I'm reminded that some people get pretty
excited over regular OC announcements as well.
RenoI was merely responding to Troytown who said there is no
evidence that BYU would be at the bottom of the Pac-12.I think your
assumption is correct that eventually BYU would see an increase in recruiting
and talent. But the facts of their record over the past 3 years shows they
aren't even a midland team in the PAC-12 at this point. I don't doubt
that BYU would be better, over time, but if BYU came into the Pac-12 right now,
they would struggle mightily.
@TroyTownYour speculation about how BYU would do in the PAC 12 is
just that, pure speculation.---------No it's not,
it's based on inductive reasoning:NFL Talent (as per draft
since 2005, under Bronco):USC 53Oregon 39Stanford 32Utah
31Colorado 15BYU 13 Washington State 11Recruiting
Talent (average P12 rankings over 3 years, as per Rivals):#1 USC#4
Washington#7 Utah#9 Arizona#11 BYU (#63 avg national class
ranking).#12 Washington State Coaching? The only one in
demand in Robert Anna so I am assuming coaching is about average since:* No undefeated seasons in the BCS era* No BCS bowls* No BCS Bowl
wins* No top 10 finishes (Utah 2, TCU 4)* Losing record against BCS
teams* Losing record against top-mid majors (3-9 vs. Utah, 2-5 vs. TCU,
and 1-3 vs. Boise)* Losing record against PAC-12 teams in the BCS era* 62% of BMs total wins were against losing teams
Sammy,Godfrey was rated an 89 by 24/7 and listed as the 38th best
safety in the country. 13 BCS programs offered him a scholarship so he must be a
very talented DB.
@utesby5Ok, but so what? He is hardly a "huge get" as
several utah "fans" have claimed. He is a decent recruit, no more.In fact back just before this previous season began one of the Utah
"fans" on here, stg if I remember correctly, was telling me that
BYU's defensive backs were all terrible and would be the worst part of the
team. I pointed out to him that BYU's starting safeties, Sorenson and
Bills, were not only not terrible but were actually highly ranked recruits
coming out of high school with multiple bcs school offers. Sorenson was a top 50
rated safety recruit and Bills was a top 10, that's right TOP 10, rated
recruit, and was recruited by just about every school you can imagine. he then
of course reiterated how terrible they are in his opinion, blah, blah, blah.Interestingly he has now posted on this article what a great commit this
is for utah despite not being near the caliber of recruit BYU's safeties
are. I shouldn't have to point out the irony/hypocrisy but obviously I do.
@duckhunter"I pointed out to him that BYU's starting
safeties, Sorenson and Bills, were not only not terrible but were actually
highly ranked recruits coming out of high school with multiple bcs school
offers. Sorenson was a top 50 rated safety recruit and Bills was a top 10,
that's right TOP 10, rated recruit, and was recruited by just about every
school you can imagine."I checked all of the recruiting services
and found that Bills was offered by BYU and no BCS schools. Sorensen was offered
by BYU and one BCS school: Mississippi. Based on your post I was imagining many,
many BCS programs offering Bills a scholarship.Bills was rated the
#15 Safety in his class by Scout, #149 by ESPN, #10 by Rivals and 24/7 rated his
composite score #21.Sorensen was rated the #85 Safety in his class
by Scout, NR by ESPN, #55 by Rivals and wasn't in the 24/7 database.Godfrey is rated #126 by Scout, #33 by ESPN, #47 by Rivals and has a
composite score of #38 by 24/7. Godfrey has 17 offers including 13 from BCS
programs.I like how Bills and Sorensen play, they are solid
safeties. Godfrey looks to be a good recruit for Utah.
Duck, what I ACTUALLY said:"(Johnson) was the anchor as likely
the only solid defensive back in the lineup.""Sorensen is
good in run support, but neither (Sorensen or Bills) looked good in
coverage."Then you told me they were both "EXCELLENT"
pass defenders. What's interesting, after hearing your claims of "just
about every school you can imagine" recruiting Bills is that BYU is the only
one listed as having offered him a scholarship. And Sorensen was rated as the
55th safety by Rivals (close to what you said, but 55 is not "top 50")
and 85th by Scout. At that time, Bills had recorded 2 INTs and 5 PBUs against
Wyoming, Tulane, Idaho and San Diego State (none of them respected passing
offenses). This year he looked a little better against better competition, but
far from "EXCELLENT." Sorensen is 36th rated safety in this draft class,
and not projected to be drafted. Again, not "EXCELLENT."
contd.I say that not to minimize those players, because, while not
currently considered pro caliber players, I think they're both fine
athletes, seem like good guys, and being disrespectful towards student athletes
is not something I do. But how one can come here and try to slander me by
telling an absolute lie about something I said while sensationalizing their own
favorite team's players expressly to minimize another's is
@utesby5So according to the utah "fan" recruiting bible
rivals Bills was a top 10 safety recruit. Thanks for confirming that fact. And
of course I said he was "recruited" by just about everyone and he was.
He committed to BYU very early and made it known he would not change his mind,
hence the other teams giving up on recruiting him. Interesting he would still be
so highly rated with what you claim are a lack of offers. That doesn't
happen often.@stgThey both were excellent pass defenders
this year, they did a great job. Far, far, far, far, far, better than your
"expert" assessment. Far, far, far, far, far better than any safety utah
put on the field. In fact your man love for rowe appears to have been more than
a bit misplaced. And yes Sorenson is getting some NFL interest. Who knows if
he'll be drafted but he is a prospect and when you have two safeties that
are NFL prospects they are far, far, far, far, far better than some utah
"fan", who apparently knows nothing, claims they are.
Duckhunter, no, Rowe did not perform as well as I'd hoped the former
Freshman All-American would this year. Regardless, he'll get "some NFL
interest" next year as well, by virtue of his experience and graduating,
just as Sorensen is. You have a very loose interpretation of
"excellent," and for that I can't help you. Excellent and great to
me would indicate a top 10 player in their class at their position, with more
than a fighter's chance at a lasting career in football. And do you know
what happened in the wake of my "expert" assessment? BYU gave up more
passing yards per game this year without Jordan Johnson, and let almost all
semi-competent passing teams' #1 WRs run wild against them, including Mike
Davis, Dres Anderson, Davaris Daniels, and some guys named Daniel Spencer,
Xavier Maxwell, and Brandon Wimberly.
And thank you for showcasing exactly what I said in sensationalizing anything
anyone from BYU has ever done with the sole intention of minimizing Utah's
players. You made that far, far, far, far, far, far, far too obvious. I
shouldn't have to point out the irony/hypocrisy but obviously I do.
@utesby5godfrey does appear to be a good recruit, just not worthy of
the over the top hyperbole utah "fans" are heaping on in this comment
section. But as I said before none of us really know anything about him, good,
bad, great, bust, nothing, we don't know. And that is why I enjoy mocking
utah "fans" so much about this stuff. Everytime a new commit is
announced for utah a bunch of their "fans" get on here and act like they
are the greatest players in the world when in fact utah just about never gets
any committments from anything higher than a middle of the star ratings 3 star
anything. They likewise bag on the guys BYU gets despite the fact they are
pretty similar overall. In fact BYU's recruits average star ranking is
higher than utah's in both rivals and scout this year. utah has an overall
higher ranking based on having more committments. Of course that means
utah's has little room to rise whereas BYU's can go higher.It is just fun to get them all worked up and trying to defend their hypocrisy,
like stg is doing right now. lol
Duckhunter: "It is just fun to get them all worked up and trying to defend
their hypocrisy, like stg is doing right now."What hypocrisy am
I defending? You straight up lied about several points, which included an attack
on me. You are the only hypocrite in this argument. I posted about Utah Football
recruiting, and you came to attack people and blatantly make things up.
I've posted several complimentary remarks about BYU players in the past few
months, and all you do is come trash Utah fans, players and coaches, and make
your own over the top statements about BYU guys.
"I know the coaches are loyal to the program and will be there for the
entire time I'm there."LOLOLOLOL
If ChrisB and gang only compare to other Utah schools, what is the point?
Compared to other PAC and Top programs, Utah is nowhere closer to being elite in
recruiting than 4 years ago. The average position in major recruiting sites such
as Scout and Rivals is in the 40's. Being 43th Best in the Nation for 4
straight years is "nothing to write home about". In PAC recruiting,
Utah's classes have been consistently ranked in position 9-11 (out of 12,
Boy, It really ruffles some feathers if Ute fans are excited about a
recruit. Goodness. The reality is that Godfrey is a huge recruit.
He is expected to come in and contribute right away. I would say that Eric
Weddle was a huge recruit too, despite the fact that he was a 2 star.Recruiting insiders have reported that Godfrey was very high on the coaches
list. Therefore, he is a huge get for the program. However, some
individuals on this board continue hammer on class rankings or and internet
evaluations. Frankly, I will put my money on people who's job depends on
properly evaluating the talent, not writing stories about them.
@duckhunter:I think you and I both know that schools continue to
recruit and offer scholarships up until signing day. These recruits are high
school teenage boys that often change their minds. Case in point, Utah recruit
Kenyon Frison from Granger High. Kenyon verbally accepted Utah's offer in
February, 2012. Since that time several other schools have recruited him.
Oklahoma coaches have visited him twice and Nebraska and ASU have January visits
planned for Kenyon to visit their campuses. All three programs offered after he
verbally accepted the Utah offer. My point, the good players continue to get
recruited until they sign.Craig Bills committed to byu on June 25,
2008 and signed to play on February 4, 2009. He wasn't offered a
scholarship by any program before or after his verbal commitment. LSU, Colorado
and Utah looked at him but didn't offer. If you think other programs
stopped looking at him because he gave byu a verbal commitment then I've
got some ocean front land to sell you up here in Davis County. Maybe ESPN was
closer to reality by ranking him #149? Website to support your claims?
Here's a thought for all the Chris B's and Duckhunters out there:Why don't we just wait and see how good the kid is? I would say
that outside of the perennial top 10 teams that no recruiting class ever pans
out exactly as expected or ranked. SI.com did a fascinating article about this
a few years ago (forgot the title). They took a specific year's recruiting
classes for several universities and re-ranked them. Guess what? Each and
every one of them had changed in a material way. You never know how a 17
year-old is going to develop. Will he grow? Will he learn? Can he be coached?
Will he transfer for any myriad number of reasons? Will coaches change? Will
injuries take their toll? Or, in the worst case, will they leave the
school/sport completely? Each of these could be a negative or a positive
depending on the recruit and the school.I hope Godfrey works out
well for the Utes. Not because I love the Utes but because every kid deserves
the best shot they can get.
47th best DB in the country per Rivals.We won a close recruitng
battle as his final three included Wisconson, who was really going after this
kid. Nice work by coaching staff to get Andre out to SLC so he could
really see what a top tier program and city the Utes have.