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Utah Utes basketball: Wright puts on a show in Utah's loss at Washington

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  • BeSmart Cheyenne, WY
    Jan. 9, 2014 10:17 a.m.

    I watched the game last night and Delon Wright is a great player at both ends of the floor.
    He carried the Utes last night and he may have to for a lot of the season.
    Good Luck Delon Wright and the Utes.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 9, 2014 10:19 a.m.

    Wright and Loveridge are the two best players in Utah.

    And this team is showing its ahead of schedule in the coach K era. Love the way the guys play.

    Looking forward to a great season with the best postseason hopes of any team in the state.

    Go Utes

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 9, 2014 10:20 a.m.

    He did put on a show.

    And as bad as the loss hurts, it could be worse.

    We could be coming off back to back losses against Pepperdine and Lola Mary community college.

  • 54-10 Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 9, 2014 1:01 p.m.

    Best player in the state - BY FAR.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Jan. 9, 2014 1:24 p.m.

    Pride preceedeth the fall.

  • Gone fishin Seattle, WA
    Jan. 9, 2014 1:27 p.m.

    Let's take off the crimson glasses and look at ACTUAL stats.
    Utah's top two scorers average 17.2 and 16.0 against the powder puff preseason schedule ranked at almost the worst RPI schedule in the ENTIRE country.

    BYU's top two scorers average 23.2 and 17.0 against 4 top 25 teams and an RPI if the top 25.
    Hmmmmm. The real is not adding up but then again ute fans apparently cannot do math when it comes to sports.

    The top two players in the state are at BYU with the 3rd best players right there with them.
    Sorry utsies.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Jan. 9, 2014 1:27 p.m.

    Many ute busters in the PAC 12.

  • UteNationAlum Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 9, 2014 1:55 p.m.

    @ Gone Fishin

    "BYU's top two scorers average 23.2 and 17.0 against 4 top 25 teams and an RPI if the top 25.
    Hmmmmm. The real is not adding up but then again ute fans apparently cannot do math when it comes to sports."

    The problem with byu fans is all they care about is the math and stats. They could care less about what actually happens on the court or field.

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Jan. 9, 2014 2:04 p.m.

    Gone under, no, BYU's leading scorers are currently averaging 21.6 and 14.5 ppg, shooting 45% and 36%, jacking up 15.6 and 14.3 shots per game, respectively, per ESPN. That is not great. Loveridge shoots a modest 45% as well, for 16.5 ppg on 12.3 shots per game, while Wright scores 15.6 ppg with a 67% FG percentage on 9 attempts per game. If Loveridge attempted that many field goals, he'd average 21 points per game as well. Also they both defend, rebound and pass the ball very well, something BYU does not. Basketball is a team game, not a contest of which individual out of ten on the court at a time can shoot the most shots and score the most points.

  • Gone fishin Seattle, WA
    Jan. 9, 2014 2:05 p.m.

    Proud of my Huskies. Too bad the win didn't come against a quality opponent. Utah hurts our RPI.

  • Gone fishin Seattle, WA
    Jan. 9, 2014 2:38 p.m.

    Utenation,
    Math and stat are what the national EXPERTS use in creating rankings incase you didn't pick up on that.
    We do care what happens on the field and court. The difference is we care what happens for the ENTIRE season, not just one game like Utah fans.
    Another difference is that we don't count moral victories just the ones that get us to bowl games and NCAA tourneys.

  • utahcountyute Cedar Hills, UT
    Jan. 9, 2014 2:42 p.m.

    Fishin

    How about we base it on the overage FT% of the top 5 scorers from both teams? Lol

  • Gone fishin Seattle, WA
    Jan. 9, 2014 3:03 p.m.

    StGto SLC,
    I checked down's stata and they are correct according to Sports Illustrated, as of today. The ute came may not be recorded yet with SI so Wright's numbers will go up and Loveridge's will go down,
    This still puts the two BYU players ahead of the ute players. Sorry to burst your crimson bubble.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 9, 2014 3:52 p.m.

    gone fishin

    Ya, and Haws scores more points per game than Dwayne Wade. Haws must be better.

    LOL!

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Jan. 9, 2014 4:35 p.m.

    Gone under, so your claim is that Carlino is the second best player on that team because he is the team's second leading scorer?

  • Down under Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 9, 2014 4:41 p.m.

    Chris B,
    No, Haws is not better then Wade. He IS better then anyone on the hill however and will be the rest of this year and all of next. It's just the way it is. Sorry.

  • Down under Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 9, 2014 4:45 p.m.

    Hey,
    I have an idea. Let's compare Wright's game to BYU reserve guard, Halford, who scored 26 points the other night. Wow, isn't it great that a reserve player could score just as much as utah's best player. LOL

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Jan. 9, 2014 5:01 p.m.

    @Gone fishin

    Basketball is more than just scoring, for example Jimmer for details).

    Wright is complete a player, he reminds of the young AK (score, rebound,blocks, steals, assets)...but a better shooter.

    If Chapman is as good as advertised then Utah next year will have great depth.

  • Wally Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 9, 2014 5:10 p.m.

    As a long time Huskie, I have not been very pleased with Coach Romar. Pretty dull basketball. But obviously enough to beat the cupcakes from the hill.

  • UtesBy5 Syracuse, UT
    Jan. 9, 2014 9:09 p.m.

    Wright is an extremely talented player and will play at the next level. He has been the best all around player in this state since Andre Miller played at Utah.

    Gone Fishing, if one was to rate talent by scoring average alone, one would have thought Fredette was better than Lillard. Jimmer scored more points but Lillard was and is the better overall basketball player. I would bet that Wright will probably be a better NBA player than any other current college player in the state of Utah with possibly the exception of Mika.

    Tough loss last night. Hopefully Utes can get a split with a win at WSU.

    Go Utes!!

  • Down under Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 9, 2014 9:21 p.m.

    Tyler just laid 35 points on Pepperdine. He is clearly, with out fail, no questions asked, mark it down, no doubt the very best player in the state. Wright may have had one good game over 20 points every now and again but Haws does it game after game.

  • Down under Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 9, 2014 9:25 p.m.

    If Wright was indeed extremely talented he would be scoring in the high 20 points each night.
    He is not and therefore is a good payer at best on any given night. Sorry utesby5 but it is just wishful thinking. I averaged 20 points a night in church ball which is about the level of competition utah has faced outside of BYU and Boise in the preseason. Hawes does it against top 25 teams and a tough RPI.

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Jan. 9, 2014 10:01 p.m.

    Because Pepperdine is clearly, without fail, no questions asked, mark it down the very best team in the land.

  • UU Provo, UT
    Jan. 9, 2014 10:10 p.m.

    Gone,

    You don't gauge a player's value on points per game only. Wright is a much better NBA prospect than Haws if for no other reason that he can create his own shot and take the defender off the dribble. Haws has to come off several screens in order to get himself open for a shot.

    As pointed out by Utesby5, if it's all about points then why is Jimmer a bust and Lillard a star? You need to compare Delon vs. Haws shooting percentage, rebounds, assist, steals and blocks. As you can see Delon is the clear winner.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 9, 2014 11:08 p.m.

    Answer honestly Coug fans, which player is more valuable?

    Player 1: 91-136 FG (66.9%), 45-59 FT (76.3%), 108 reb, 80 ast, 22 blk, 38 stl.

    Player 2: 98-218 FG (45%), 90-104 FT (86.5%), 69 reb, 18 ast, 2 blk, 12, stl.

  • UtesBy5 Syracuse, UT
    Jan. 9, 2014 11:13 p.m.

    Haws scored 35 points but had only one rebound and zero assists in 33 minutes.... against Pepperdine.

    Wright had a double-double last night against Washington (27 points and 11 rebounds).

    Wright is a more complete player, like his brother who plays for the Portland Trail Blazers.

    down under, there is more to a stat sheet than scoring. Wright is a slasher who gets to the rim at will. He fills up the stat sheet with points, rebounds, assists, steals and blocked shots. He is also long and athletic which helps him on the defensive end of the court.

    Andre Miller averaged 15 points per game at Utah and Damian Lillard averaged 18.6 points at Weber State yet both were lottery picks and have been successful in the NBA. Miller is currently 9th all time in assists while averaging 14 points, 7 assists and 4 rebounds throughout a long, successful career. Based on your logic, he wasn't a good player because he didn't score upper 20s each game in college. If I recall, he did record a triple-double in the elite eight against Mike Bibby and the Arizona Wildcats. He also led his team to the NCAA Championship Game.

    Wright is the real deal!

  • Y's little brother Sandy, UT
    Jan. 9, 2014 11:21 p.m.

    UU

    Who cares about NBA potential?

    Haws will lead his team to another NCAA tournament.

    Wright won't even come close.

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Jan. 9, 2014 11:24 p.m.

    @Gone Fishing

    Yes BYU has had a much better schedule so far. But Utah did beat BYU handily a few weeks ago. The easy schedule will change as Utah goes through the PAC 12 schedule from here on out. But it's obvious that the first third of the season was one cream puff after the other for Utah.

    These first few conference games burn. Still, to see Utah go down to the wire against two solid PAC 12 teams at home and the road was somewhat of an indicator where Utah is headed. Winning games needs to happen in order to keep making progress though.

    As for the schedule thinking, if you are going to go with this meat for thought here, then remember that line of thinking when comparing BYU going bowling and having the better record in football. Utah didn't play Virginia, Nevada, Idaho State, Middle Tennessee State, GT and Houston. Utah played BYU in Provo and won that game. The best win for both teams? Utah beating Stanford trumps BYU beating Texas.

    Arguing who's better can go either way (good blue arguments). I just can't stomach these "so called national experts" comments all the time.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Jan. 9, 2014 11:36 p.m.

    Down under

    Salt Lake City, UT

    Tyler just laid 35 points on Pepperdine. He is clearly, with out fail, no questions asked, mark it down, no doubt the very best player in the state. Wright may have had one good game over 20 points every now and again but Haws does it game after game.

    -----------

    That's because Wright doesn't shoot 23 shots against teams like Pepperment. He shot 23 shots over two games, 18-23 socring 46 points. The most he shot was:

    9-11 (81%) vs Ball State scoring 23 poitns, 7 assets, 5 steals, 4 rebounds, and 1 block
    9-12 (75%) vs Fresno State scoring 23 points, 12 assets, 6 rebounds, 2 steals, and 1 block
    10-17 (58%) vs Washington scoring 27 points, 11 rebounds, 3 steals, 1 asset, 1 steal

  • Riddles in the Dark Olympus Cove, Utah
    Jan. 10, 2014 6:36 a.m.

    UU

    "Wright is a much better NBA prospect than Haws..."

    Who cares about NBA prospects... the only thing that matters is did he help U win?

    At 1-2 in the conference after playing two home games, as you can see from the conference standings, Delon is obviously the clear LOSER!

  • Swoop Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 10, 2014 8:15 a.m.

    Uteology

    Watch Wright's FG% plummet as teams start cutting off his drives to the basket and forcing him to hit mid-range jumpers. He's already proven that he's a horrible 3-point shooter hitting only 7 of 25 (28%) from distance.

    With the exception of Washington and Washington St, the weakest teams left on Utah's schedule, its doubtful Wright will break 20 points the rest of the season.

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    Jan. 10, 2014 8:29 a.m.

    Uteology

    Nice cherry picking - you should go into the produce business.

    Wright's best scoring performances are barely better than Haws's average scoring performances.

    With only two real scoring threats, in Loveridge and Wright, the Utes have no chance against the better teams in the PAC. Teams like Arizona, Colorado, UCLA and Oregon will simply lock down on those two and force Utah's other players to beat them.

    btw, Oregon won't shoot 38% from the field on their home court. Expect a double-digit loss in Eugene.

  • ekute Layton, UT
    Jan. 10, 2014 8:46 a.m.

    He's a baller and a great kid, the demeaning comments by the jealous haters are unwarranted. Good luck Delon, thanks for choosing Utah, make us proud. Go Runnin' Utes.

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Jan. 10, 2014 9:39 a.m.

    Disparaging attacks on a kid just because of the color of jersey he wears is a pretty sad showing of class and character.

  • Qwest Perfected Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 10, 2014 11:00 a.m.

    These arguments of who is better between Wright and Haws is getting old. They are both great players and both teams would be hurting without each one of them.

    Byu has dominated the Utes in basketball for the last handful of years but Utah finally broke the streak this year. Beyond that there just isn't much else to compare.

    As for the Washington game, Wright did have a great game. Too bad nobody else really showed up. Taylor had one of his worst games I've seen him play and Loveridge didn't do too much either. That being said, they were still in the game and had a chance to win it in the end. I hope they can get things fixed and have a few more players step up and pick up a win against Washington State. WSU just took Colorado to OT so I expect that to be a tough game as well.

    Go Utes!

  • oaklandaforlife SLC, UT
    Jan. 10, 2014 11:35 a.m.

    @54-10
    @UtesBy5

    Totally agree with both of you. The Wright kid can flat out play. He his the real deal indeed.

  • UteTrog Phoenix, AZ
    Jan. 10, 2014 12:38 p.m.

    Why does it matter if one person on a team can play, but we can't win against even the lowest levels of the PAC 12? Wright can be the best player in the country, but if he doesn't have a supporting cast, who cares? We're still NIT bound at best and we can thank our weak schedule for that. And that is only if we can handle Washington St. on the road. If we can't, we might as well pack up, pack it in.

  • 10CC Bountiful, UT
    Jan. 10, 2014 1:24 p.m.

    To anyone reading these responses who is not familiar with sports in the State of Utah, many of these responses are just the latest "interesting" manifestation of denial and anger from BYU fans because Utah got into the PAC-12 and BYU didn't.

    The bottom line is that Utah fans and observers of PAC-12 basketball are just now realizing and appreciating the skills Delon brings that his brother Dorell (of the NBA's Trailblazers), tweeted out last summer as Delon was making his imprint on the high-level league they both played in down in Los Angeles.

    The Utah coaches themselves didn't fully appreciate how good Delon was until he came on campus and started playing with his teammates.

    At this point anyone who closely follows PAC-12 basketball knows who Delon Wright is, and that circle will keep growing.

  • motorbike Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 10, 2014 1:37 p.m.

    Gone fishin

    "Proud of my Huskies. Too bad the win didn't come against a quality opponent. Utah hurts our RPI."

    Uhhhh, your RPI actually went up several spots following the game with Utah. Oops, so much for that attempt at a dig.

  • CougOrUte..Naah Nibley, UT
    Jan. 10, 2014 1:39 p.m.

    Looks like the Utes are headed for the same standing in basketball as they did in football. So much for the cupcake preseason schedule helping them get prepared for the season. Looks like a long season ahead. The small fish in a big pond analogy is going to start coming out again. Hopefully the Ute faithful can come up with a better excuse.

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Jan. 10, 2014 2:30 p.m.

    Good luck to the Cougars on Sunday.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Jan. 10, 2014 5:22 p.m.

    @Uteanymous

    Cherry picking is claiming a one dimensional player is great. Mika has a better game than Haws. I guarantee you that Utah won't have a double digit loss in Eugene this year... do the research to figure out why.

    @Swoop

    Teams like Arizona, Colorado, and UCLA might be able to play defense and force him to shoot, but teams like Oregon, Washington, Boise, and BYU could not.

    But then again, he's proven he doesn't have to score to be effective.

    @UteTrog

    FYI...

    "You can see this vast developmental gulf in more than box scores and results pages. You can see it in the way Krystkowiak works his team's advantages on the court, in the Utes' smart situational use of timeouts and stoppages. You can see it in the way junior college transfer Delon Wright... is the chief reason the Utes are so effective around the rim...[forcing] double-teams and added rotations... The Utes are better, and getting better."

    Source: ESPN

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    Jan. 11, 2014 7:59 a.m.

    Uteology

    "I guarantee you that Utah won't have a double digit loss in Eugene this year..."

    Pure speculation!

    I can PROVE to you that BYU didn't suffer a double-digit loss in Eugene this season.

    In fact, BYU lead by as many as 8 points for most of the game in Eugene and had a 3-point lead with 3 minutes left in regulation, before losing by 4 in OT.

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Jan. 11, 2014 5:08 p.m.

    Uteanymous: "Pure speculation!"

    Honestly... it's hilarious, but do a little research and figure out why there is no way, no chance, for Utah to lose a game in Eugene by double digits this year...

  • talkinsports Gilbert, AZ
    Jan. 11, 2014 11:57 p.m.

    StGtoSLC

    The Utes lucked out on getting to play WSU twice and Oregon only once.

    Bottom line - Utah is still winless on the road this season and Washington State may be Utah's last chance to avoid going 0 for the season on the road.