This could be interesting! With growing frustration with the GOP caucus system
in Utah and anger over Mike Lee/Tea Party antics, a fractured Utah GOP could
allow a successful moderate Democrat take the governorship or Hatch's
Senate seat in the coming years. While I haven't always agreed
with Matheson or Bennett, it was those types of middle-of-the-road,
get-things-done policymakers that gave Utah clout on the national stage.
Thanks for writing this fitting tribute to a dedicated public servant. No doubt
Congressman Matheson learned his pragmatic approach to politics from his father,
Governor Scott Matheson. "He became a convincing counter to the
accusation that state residents mindlessly vote for Republicans regardless of
other factors."That's certainly a point well taken and so
fortunate for Utah to have had the Congressman there to vote for when the
evidence of that accusation is so overwhelming in every other national office
over the past 30 years. Hopefully there will be another such pragmatic and
dedicated candidate on the Democratic ticket that will allow Utah the chance to
avoid that "one sided" label in the future.
How many times did Matheson cross his leadership, (Pelosi ect.)? As I recall,
he campaigned as a cross the isle moderate, but when the chips were down, he was
a dependable Democrat vote, unless they had enough to let him off the hook, and
give him cover, which is a political game that only informed voters would even
understand. Matheson a Democrat through and through, and now hopefully Utah
gets what it needs, a Republican through and through. Especially since, as of
now, 2014 is definately trending toward the Republicans due to the most
unpopular President at this jucture of his Presidency since Richard Nixon.
I suspect the real reason he is opting out is because he knows there will be a
huge Obamacare backlash coming and he would not have been re-elected on that
I agree with SCfan. Can someone please list a single vote by Matheson in
congress, where he went against his party and his vote made the difference?Obamacare is the perfect example. Without his vote, it would not have
passed. The people of Utah were overwhelmingly against it (as were most
districts in the U.S.), yet he followed the party line.
@SCFan... actually... Bush version 2.0 had ratings just lower.... but who is
counting anyway. I am not sure how popular the president is makes much
difference to how people vote for local reps. Do they really say "if the
president were more popular, I would vote democrat" down in Utah Valley?
Somehow I doubt it.
Remmeber his lining up with Obama on Obamacare in return for his brothers
Since he isn't going anywhere, I don't think he will be missed by
anyone. He has his eye on a different office, one that doesn't have Mia
Love opposing him on the ballot.SCfan and Joecapitalist have it
right. I think he asked Nancy's permission to vote with the conservatives
so he could claim he was a moderate, and he got the permission whenever the vote
would not be close enough to need him. But if the vote looked like it would be
close, he voted with the liberal democrats, EVERY TIME. I understand
why Utah democrats loved him. He was their fox in the hen house. I
do wonder why the moderates couldn't see through his lies about being a
moderate. Two faced is more like it.Kind words from Hatch
aren't really from across the aisle. Hatch jumped ship from conservatism
decades ago, and is a RINO all the way. If Matheson did get his office when he
retires, the only change would be the letter after the name. The votes would
look the same, not because Matheson is a moderate, but because Hatch is a
That's too bad. I felt he was one of the "good guys" in
Washington, and our only insider on what's going on in the Democrat party
back there. I don't think we will be able to fully replace him. He will
In the two plus years I have been back in the State, "Democrat"
Mattheson did often voted mindlessly for whatever partisan attack the Republican
Party was pushing at the time. Impeach the Attorney General? why sure! Shutdown
the Government, that's the ticket! Give 40 million people a chance to get
heathcare? No! 40 times No!I was surprised that he didn't call
for Obama to produce a birth certificate. Run for Goveror Mattheson,
so I can vote against you, because these days, I just can't vote for any
Republican, especially one so partisan as you, especially for one that cost this
state millions of dollars.
UtahBlueDevil Well, people do seem to vote according to which party they
seem to think is doing the most good or bad. And in the case of the party that
has the President in office, it usually revolves around him. Nixon unpopular
and lost a lot of congressional seats, Bush 2.0, not popular and lost a lot of
congressional seats. Ect. And the people who swing elections are not the ones
who are committed Republicans down in Utah Valley and will always vote
Republican, or the committed Democrats, in West Valley, who will always vote
Democrat. In most elections, especially in purple states, the
swing/independent/ voters are the ones who decide elections. Here in Utah,
I'm surprised any Democrat ever gets elected to office.
I would be in favor of a "secret ballot" in congress where at the time
they vote, no member of congress knows for sure if their vote will be the
deciding factor or not.Once all the votes have been cast, then the
secret is out and everyone gets to see who voted which way on the issue. This
would prevent most of the so-called "moderates" on both sides of the
aisle from deceiving their voters by appearing to be more moderate than they
really are.Currently, if a congressman wants to vote with his party
on an issue, but knows that goes against most of the voters in his district, he
can currently wait to vote until he knows his party has already secured all the
votes it needs, then vote the opposite. However, if he knows the vote depends on
his vote, he votes the party line.Then in the next election he says
"I am a moderate. See, I voted against my party 90% of the time (when it
didn't count) and only voted with my party 10% of the time (when it really
Whether it’s this papers editorial staff inferring that Republicans
“mindlessly vote along party lines regardless of other factors” or
John Podesta comparing Republicans to a cult which perpetrated a mass
murder-suicide, the hatred Democrats have for Republicans force all Republicans
to vote the party line. This will not end until Democrats move
towards the center, reducing Republicans need to vote and support the
Matheson pursuaded Utah to do a really dumb thing, and for this I see his
service as a net negative to the state of Utah.Energy Solutions
accepts waste for disposal. They needed permission to accept some waste from
foreign countries. Energy solutions offered Utah half a billion dollars if they
were allowed to bring this waste in.Because of his active opposition, this offer
was rejected.Was the waste too dangerous? Well it was the same type
of waste that Energy Solutions is already accepting from other parts of the
United States. The only difference being the place of origin.
Re: ". . . [Matheson] became a convincing counter to the accusation that
state residents mindlessly vote for Republicans . . . ."But not
to the accusation that too many Utah Democrats mindlessly vote for Democrats.Assuming Mr. Matheson is replaced by someone who leans conservative,
he'll only be missed by that tiny, iconoclastic community of Utah
liberals.He could'a been a contender.He could have
stood up to liberal, socialist elements that are ruining his [and my] party and
ruining America. He could have styled himself along the lines of a Jack Kennedy,
or an Artur Davis, or a Zell Miller. He could have shown real courage and real
integrity.But no. Instead, he went along to get along.
"I would be in favor of a "secret ballot" in congress where at the
time they vote, no member of congress knows for sure if their vote will be the
deciding factor or not."I see where this could be good…
but we also need accountability. Perhaps another way of doing it is now they
can watch the vote, and decide to vote late if they want to make sure their vote
doesn't count. That way everyone finds out how the others voted all at
once. Not sure….SCFan…. I get ya. I happen to live in
a very purple state right now. At the local level, we just went conservative in
a big way. There is significant backlash against what they did, versus the
perception of how Obamacare is doing. It will be interesting to see in a year
from now which of those factors carries the day.
I have a hard time praising these incumbent public servants that have voted
(compromised)our country to a 17 Trillion (with a "T") debt, and just
voted to raise it that to 25 Trillion (Thanks to both Matheson, Javez and
Hatch). When will the good old boys in Washington stop spending money we
don't have?? 30 Trillion, 50 Trillion? Or maybe stop when we can't
borrow anymore.... When will enough be enough????
I was amazed that Matheson was able to survive so many Republican attempts to
boot him from office. That Matheson was elected in so many different geographic
districts would suggest a moderate vein in Utah's electorate, but
that's all lost on the Republicans, who pressed ahead and carved up the
state in a "pie" gerrymandering model, anyway.Nevada did
pretty much the opposite, with the dominant Democrats there leaving a rural
district for conservatives in Nevada, "because they need their voices heard,
too". What a concept.Utah Democrats should consider doing what
some rural Republicans have done in Colorado, and that's to ask for a new
state to be formed to better represent the views of the people there. Colorado
is much closer to be a "purple" state, but Utah Democrats know quite
well that their views aren't highly regarded, so why not lobby for a
separation? This marriage doesn't work, at all.Salt Lake
County and Summit County together would make a nice, cohesive area. Democrats
would keep the name "Utah", and the rest of the state could get the name
Brigham Young wanted all along, "Deseret".
Is $17,000,000,000,000 in debt not enough?? Our 4 Reps (including Matheson)and
Hatch all voted to raise it to $25,000,000,000,000 (sorry if I missed some
zeros). I am hard pressed to understand how Matheson will be missed! Our career
politicians are selling us down the river. When will the public wake up??
Continuing to spend money we don't have only ends badly...
His resignation will give the election to Mia Love. If true, that is an
exceptionally frightening reality because I think her political views are pretty
missed? I think not. Mia Love's congressional career is about to begin!!
It's about time!!
I've always been a Love supporter, but as a 4th district resident I'm
grateful for his service. I wish him and his family all the best.