Why is a top 5 NFL pick playing in the senior bowl?
A top 5 pick isn't playing in the Senior Bowl.
Nice two BYU players are in the Senior Bowl!
BYU fan here but I don't think Van Noy is going to make it as an NFL
player. The reason being is that he is not a very good tackler. Way too many
opposing players slipped through his "leg dives" this season and those
guys are mere boys compared to what he'll have to tackle in the NFL. Plus
"leg dives" are unacceptable for linebackers in the NFL who are expected
to be able to square guys up and drive them to the ground the old-fashioned
way.It's not that Van Noy is not a good playmaker because he
most definitely is but so was Tim Tebow. But QB's need to throw and
LB's need to tackle and it's really easy for NFL scouts to go out and
find someone who can do those things.
@ red.diehardNo, but the best linebacker in the state is playing in the
You are correct, there are no Utah players in the Senior Bowl.
Cowboy99:I disagree with your assessment, and so do most scouts and draft
experts. While Van Noy didn't have as spectacular a year and certainly did
miss some tackles, he still has a tremendous motor and great instincts. He will
be just fine in the NFL.Hoffman is the one I worry about. He
doesn't have tremendous speed, and doesn't always find openings in
defenses and create separation. He has great hands though, and strong hands that
can catch in traffic.If I had to guess right now I would say Van Noy
goes mid to late 2nd round, and Hoffman 5th round, maybe even early 6th.Trevor Reilly will be mid to late 3rd round IMO. Of course all of it
could change depending on combine performances but those are my predictions as
Nice job KVN - best linebacker in the 801.
Sad that Van Noy was 0-4 in his super bowl games in his career. And
I'm confused as to why he's playing in the Senior Bowl?Normally big time 1st and 2nd round guys don't play in the Senior Bowl,
they've already done enough to prove their game, already have gotten enough
exposure on the major networks, and don't want to risk injury in a
meaningless game?Are there any other first round picks from other
KVN and Hoffman will both be playing for the 4th bowl win of their BYU
careers.Sad that Utah's seniors haven't played in a bowl
game since their sophomore seasons.
Both of these guys can star in Canada. As it is, they're both
mid/late round talent in the NFL.KvN has some strengths, but very suspect
tackling in the open field, and Hoffman is tall but that's about it.They both need really good showings in the post season showcase, or
they're not going to get much attention.
All this NFL conjecture is just fluff. What's the career length of the
average NFL-er: 2 years? It will be nice that anybody who plays pro
sports can tell their grandchildren about it, but they had better make good use
of the education they get in college.
wer, I would hardly call an average career of 3-4 years and $5 million fluff
Wow--try just offering some congratulations and a job well done.
So why is a first or second round pick playing in this game?
The envy of Utah fans is evident in this article. Hoffman will be fine, 4-5
round pick. He has prototypical size, above average hands and good speed. Is he
a blazer, no, but he is moving faster than you think. also, he'll have 4
1/2 months to work strictly on his 40.AS for Van Noy his stock did
probably take a hit this year. He fell from the first round to the second. Put
he is an impact player that will come into the league and contribute
immediately. Future star, probably not but he'll have a 6-8 year career and
see plenty of playing time.Just thought I'd check for old
Mildred down in Fillmore. I remember another top 5 pick from last year that
killed it at the Senior Bowl. Oh yeah, that was Ziggy Ansah another BYU player.
People take all the advantage int he world to provoe they are nfl talent. I look
forward to watching both Hoffman and Van Noy on Sundays!
How could a team where every single player on their roster is a 5 star recruit,
not get a single one of them in the Senior bowl? seems odd to me
Some of the greatest College players never made it in the NFL, which is a
different kind of game and so mercenary...Merlin Olsen, there was a player who
succeeded on every level, with great character and talent, love to see his kind
of player, which are few and far between.
I am sure there are current players on NFL rosters who played in the Sr bowl
last year. What about Ziggy?
Ziggy Ansah recorded 7 tackles (3.5 for a loss), 1.5 sacks, and a forced fumble
in last year's Senior Bowl. He was the 5th pick in tbe 2013 draft. Tell
him that the Senior Bowl is for the also-rans in the NFL draft.
Ziggy used the Senior Bowl to help ensure not only a first round pick, but a
well deserved number 5 overall pick.
Also, just to name a few other former Senior Bowl players who are currently
getting playing time in the NFL:Colin KaepernickJimmy
GrahamVon MillerArian FosterDeMarcus WarePatrick
WillisRussell WilsonJust to name a few.A few other
facts about players who played in the Senior Bowl (from their website):About one third of the starting QBs at the start of the 2012-2013 season
played in the senior bowl.Five of the six QBs in the 2012 game
started at least one game as a rookie.21 former senior bowlers made
the 2013 Pro Bowl, 16 as starters.
Pretty hard to argue with facts with some people on the boards.
The same Ute Trolls that scoffed at Ziggy last year are doing the same to Van
Noy and Hoffman.They will be just as wrong this year. Enjoy the NFL
and your Million Dollar Salaries!
@jarka-rus and Chris BI think that Utah state and Byu will have
many 1-6 round people in the senor bowl Utah just needs to be patient and wait
for Jake Murphy and your Feld goal kicker's names to be called if
thy are Senior's