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Utah Utes basketball: AD Chris Hill doesn't foresee interruption of BYU series

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  • Mendel Iowa City, IA
    Dec. 11, 2013 8:18 p.m.

    I don't think either athletic director should want this rivalry to continue because when BYU and Utah play each other, BYU's SOS goes down and Utah's goes up; a bad outcome for both schools.

  • Striker Omaha, NE
    Dec. 11, 2013 9:10 p.m.

    "AD Chris Hill doesn't foresee interruption of BYU series"

    Until he sees the results Saturday. Look for Fresno to suddenly appear on that schedule. Oh wait, it's already there. Can't play that card this time boys.

    Pretty clear who will be more prepared for this game. BYU just beat a 2-win team by 48. Utah won by what, 7, to a 3-win team, having to come from behind to grind out a win. BYU already played a rivalry game and wore them out at the end. Oh, and they played Weber, so that's two rivalry games already with 2 green W's. Already beat a PAC team on the road. Utah beat....uh...Nationally ranked by the Department of Agriculture - Grand Canyon.

    Utah needs an A game to win...that is all there is to it. BYU is WELL tested so far. Glad Utah has a backbone and good sense to keep at least basketball going. The BYU/Utah rivalry is too good to discontinue in any sport.

  • 17-14 Hurts Don't It? Springville, UT
    Dec. 11, 2013 9:14 p.m.

    (Chickens clucking)

    Yeah, it must be pretty difficult to pickup a phone and calendar at the same time to find a date to play my Aggies.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Dec. 11, 2013 9:34 p.m.

    Glad to hear the Utes are planning to keep one good non-conference game on their slate to go along with a bunch of cupcakes.

    I makes no sense why Utah and USU can find a way to meet once each year also. Utah's probably looking for a 2 for 1, when USU is clearly the better BB program and deserves an alternating schedule between Logan and SLC.

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Dec. 11, 2013 10:18 p.m.

    CFiT: "Glad to hear the Utes are planning to keep one good non-conference game on their slate to go along with a bunch of cupcakes."

    Seriously? Didn't bother to read the announcement today of a perennial top 10 team being scheduled?

  • Mtn Tracker Ephraim, UT
    Dec. 11, 2013 11:26 p.m.

    Just saw coach k's comment about the situation. First he tries to act insulted that coach rose said the ute's aren't cooperating. Coach k said he's excited to play byu. After saying it's not them that don't want it to happen, he slipped and said he wants a third year neutral court at ESA. Humm?? Really? What is that 1.3 miles away from the huntsman center? Wow!! I have an idea. Neutral court should be out of state. Any state. See if the ute's agree to that. Nope!

  • Go Big Blue!!! Bountiful, UT
    Dec. 11, 2013 11:49 p.m.

    Apparently it is ok to get thumped each year by the Cougars but not by the Aggies.

    There could only be two problems with the u scheduling games with USU: 1) u is unwilling to schedule one for one games with USU 2)Larry Krystkowiak is terrified of entering the Spectrum (which leads to the 1st problem)

    I miss the Rick Majerus era when the u fielded a men's basketball team.

  • kaysvillecougar KAYSVILLE, UT
    Dec. 11, 2013 11:53 p.m.

    Whether Chris Hill means to or not, the perception of Utah is one of total, unabashed, and undeserved arrogance from the hill. This from a team who has been horrid the last several years. How hard can it be to schedule BYU, especially if they're moving games for you? And the arrogance to not play Utah State? Come on. He's managed to unite BYU and USU fans. Pretty impressive work Dr. Hill. I can't decide if they really do feel like they're better or if they don't want to get embarrassed until they are sure their program has turned around(which will probably happen). It's likely the second. Either way this is no way to make friends with your in state rivals.

  • Down under Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 12, 2013 12:41 a.m.

    i think the series should continue as it is good for the state. I agree with our desnews moderator StGtoSLC that utah picked up a nice away game by a top ten team. That should he;p to build the program although it is too basd they not get a return game in slc.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    Dec. 12, 2013 1:32 a.m.

    I don't really care if the ute vs Cougs game goes away... All it does is drag down the Cougs SOS for Tournament consideration... I think that I'd rather play a 5th nationally Ranked team in preseason and that would give the utes another Division II game to prop up their W-L record...

  • eastcoastcoug Danbury, CT
    Dec. 12, 2013 2:07 a.m.

    Whew! Now we can all sleep tonight...Hill made it sound like the US and the Russians and the STARTII Treaty. Get over yourselves, people, this is just sports being played by kids.

  • IndeMak South Jordan, UT
    Dec. 12, 2013 6:23 a.m.

    Once conference schedules start, Utah's SOS will increase. Some team in Utah County will go way down.

    Nice job Utah in scheduling Kansas for next year.

    I do like the idea of playing in the ESL as a local tourney. Utah, USU, UVU, Dixie, Weber, SUU and any other team from Utah County that wants to play.

  • Ute Bird Mascot Fruit Heights, UT
    Dec. 12, 2013 7:28 a.m.

    I think it is time for Dr. Hill to retire. He and KWhitt continue to rest on past seasons while their programs continue to swirl down the tank.

    They continue to fiddle, while the programs are in ruins.

  • pocyUte Pocatello, ID
    Dec. 12, 2013 7:40 a.m.

    Wow, the trolls are out in force today.

    I think the ESA tournament is great idea. I think SL would be a great place for a small tourney. The quick turnaround is good for teams in preparation for conference and possibly other tournaments at the end of the season.

    Go Utes!!

  • Ed Grady Idaho Falls, ID
    Dec. 12, 2013 7:49 a.m.

    “The Utah State thing, which I think is important to know, that’s just been more difficult.”

    Translation - Utah State refuses to roll over for Pac-12 Proud.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Dec. 12, 2013 7:55 a.m.

    I hope the serires continues and I'd like to see them play home and home each year. This rivalry makes for some great debate and back and forth. Although some times I feel like I'm debating an angry blue tree stump. Not always, mind you, but certainly some times.

  • Utes home for the holidays Sandy, UT
    Dec. 12, 2013 8:14 a.m.

    When Chris Hill says the discussion with Utah State have become difficult and uncomfortable, is that because Hill calls the Aggies up and says "Look, we're in the Pac 10 and have tons of Pac 10 stickers, therefore, we get to tell you how things will be. We will give you a 2 for 1 if you want, take it or leave it"?

    The arrogance shown on the hill these days is unbelievable. Certainly the aggies aren't pushing for anything other than what has always been done. But now Chris Hill has to look down at the aggies? Poor class.

  • Wayne Rout El Paso, TX
    Dec. 12, 2013 8:35 a.m.

    Based on Utah's basketball record against BYU over the last few years, I could certainly understand dropping BYU from their basketball schedule in favor of Southern North Dakota University or Western South Carolina College. Of course, they would loose their only sell out.

  • No playoff for U Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 12, 2013 8:50 a.m.

    indywac

    "Once conference schedules start, Utah's SOS will increase."

    Unfortunately for U, Utah's loss total will also increase, dramatically, because Utah's cream puff pre-season schedule has left the Utes completely unprepared to face the rigors of conference play.

  • DEW Cougars Sandy, UT
    Dec. 12, 2013 8:53 a.m.

    Okay utah, how about neutral site at Maui Invitational. Sure a lot big rich "u" people can afford to attend there and many byu fans from Hawaii will go too. Sounds Good?

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    Dec. 12, 2013 9:05 a.m.

    Meh...who cares. I could take this rivalry or not nowdays. All the vitriol coming out of both camps over a game is getting old & ridiculous, and I blame myself as much as anyone for trash talking with ute fans. It's CFB and CBB folks, not life. Whether BYU wins or loses or Utah wins or loses has nothing whatsoever to do with me, so I've made a New Years resolution just to say it how it is, and leave the trash talking to much younger guys than me, who haven't realized there's more to life and still collect baseball cards and watch their daily Family Guy. Cheers y'all and happy holidays to Cougars, Aggies, Utes, Wildcats, Thunderbirds, and Wolverines (I think that's UVUs mascot) :).

  • Eddie Would Go FPO, AE
    Dec. 12, 2013 9:07 a.m.

    The volume of anger on the Deseret News comments boards from "nice" people always amazes me.

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    Dec. 12, 2013 9:19 a.m.

    The Y has owned the Utes the past few years in Basketball. I know that fact is lost on Utah football boosters, but it is true none the less. The U would be nuts to dump the Y in basketball, and they are nuts not to play Utah State 9or just plain chicken). The U is actually winning this year. Who are they playing? Snow College?

  • 81Ute Central, UT
    Dec. 12, 2013 9:19 a.m.

    @Eddie Would Go
    Only the blue anger gets posted, us red folk get censored.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Dec. 12, 2013 9:42 a.m.

    @CougsnDawgs

    As usual, well put and nicely done. Happy Holidays indeed Guy!

  • Cougar11 Highland, UT
    Dec. 12, 2013 9:50 a.m.

    As a Cougar Fan I hope the series continues. I do think Dave Rose put pressure on Dr. Hill by making public what was being spoken about in private. I think that was smart as many in this state see the U of U being the one responsible for ending the yearly football rivalry with the Y. I don't think they want another black eye ending this one as well when everyone knows that it is easy to schedule a yearly basketball game. There are at least a dozen non-conference games for heavens sake; anyone could figure this one out.

    Also, I agree with Aggie fans this game between the U of U and Utah State should remain and should stay home and away. The U coach needs to know that your team gets better for conference play when they go into hostile arenas and play good programs. The patsy's they are playing this year is an embarrassment and won't help you prepare for the Pac 12 talent you are going to face.

    Finally, I am all for a State tournament, but you need another team for an even number; how about Lone Peak!

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    Dec. 12, 2013 9:59 a.m.

    For all the accusations of arrogance coming from the Cougar fans their comments here indicate they are the ones who are truly arrogant. When was the last time the Y played a bball game in Logan?

    I'm content to let the players decide who's better on the court. I'll be at the game and I'm looking forward to a good one.

  • fan in orem Orem, UT
    Dec. 12, 2013 10:23 a.m.

    Mormon Ute: We played there two years ago, and will be there next year. How about you guys?

  • UU32 Bountiful, UT
    Dec. 12, 2013 10:28 a.m.

    This is everyone's last year to take pot shots at the U bball program. Get your shots in now because the program will return to its former spot as a national top 20 team each year. Enjoy your chance to bag on the U, because it is coming to an end.

  • Sports Are Great Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 12, 2013 10:35 a.m.

    @MormonUte, BYU played in Logan in 2011 and will again in 2014 as part of the regular schedule with Logan, Provo, Energy Solutions. No arrogance or fear from BYU in scheduling a balanced and fair arrangement with Utah State.

  • SLC BYU Fan Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 12, 2013 10:41 a.m.

    What Utah State fans fail to realize is both Utah's and BYU's athletic programs are 2-3x more valuable brands, yet they act like Chris Hill and Tom Holmoe should treat them as equals? BYU only goes out of theri way so far for Utah State since they without question get a lot of political preasure to do so from their governance board with Utah State people with power near the top. The state of Utah Board of Regents however is overwhelmingly now stacked in the University of Utah's favor whch is why Utah will go out of its way to treat the Aggies as the kid-brother cow college they are.

  • Crow Sandy , UT
    Dec. 12, 2013 10:46 a.m.

    @ No playoff for U

    Unfortunately for U, Utah's loss total will also increase, dramatically, because Utah's cream puff pre-season schedule has left the Utes completely unprepared to face the rigors of conference play.

    Tell me sir how will the loss total increase dramatically once Utah starts conference play. Utah has the depth, size, versitility, and skills to compete in the Pac-12. Last year with out the depth, size, versitility, and skills Utah started to gel winning their last two against Oregon, Oregon St. and winning two to make it to the semifinal in the Pac-12 tourney.
    Even your Greg Wrubel said on the raido last night that Wright posses a problem for byu and likened him to the G out of UMass. Quick and athletic. Utah can throw several players at Mika and get him in foul trouble and who is byu going to use at that point Austin to help defend? Wruble said that they are desprate when it comes to their bigs and need Kaufusi to help out the basketball team.
    Utah will be just fine in Pac-12 play and will win Saturday but thanks for your concern.

  • Go Big Blue!!! Bountiful, UT
    Dec. 12, 2013 10:52 a.m.

    Merry Christmas Cougsndawgs! Great insight.

    My life is better if I don't read comments from about four posters. Life is too short.

    I'd love to see an annual December tournament on the Jazz court with all of the Utah universities. Make it December madness and make it all about the joy of college sports. Too bad $$$$ and egos would never let such a tournament happen. Although it seems that such a tournament could generate some significant cash for all of the programs.

    Go Aggies! Go Cougars! Go Wildcats! Go Wolverines! Go Thunderbirds! Go Utes!

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    Dec. 12, 2013 11:10 a.m.

    So tired of hearing about how tough the big bad pac12 is and how weak the WCC is... Truth is that the top 5 teams of the WCC would do very well against the top 5 pac12 teams on neutral sites...

    In addition... Even if the big bad pac 12 was all that, the truth is that the Conference would be rated higher and tougher if the utes weren't in it... They continue to be the doormat of the conference half way through their third year... They are in the bottom three in all the major sports Football, Basketball, and Baseball... The only thing that they have going for themselves is Women's Gymnastics... No other pac12 team are as horrible as the utes... That is why the ute fans talk up the conference instead of their teams... Their teams just aren't competitive... Granted they rise up to beat the Cougs 4 years in a row but I expect that will come to a grinding halt next year... Then what???

  • NevadaCoug Overton, NV
    Dec. 12, 2013 11:10 a.m.

    BYU and USU both tend to fill seats in their respective stadiums. A 1-1-1 deal works well with them because we know their fans will travel to that neutral site game at Energy Solutions every third year.

    How is attendance at the Huntsman right now? If they can't fill their own building, can you really trust that fans are going to show up at Energy Solutions or any other neutral court? It's not worth it for either USU or Utah to agree to a neutral site game. And USU would be foolish to do anything less than a 1-1 agreement when they can pack their house and Utah can't.

    As for the game on Saturday, some things we can predict:
    1) BYU should win this game. If they don't, it's because they play poorly. Sorry, but BYU is the better team.
    2) Regardless of who wins, BYU will compete for the championship of the WCC and (barring total disaster) get a bid to the NCAA tournament.
    3) Regardless of who wins, Utah will finish no better than mid-conference and miss the NCAA tournament.

  • U 90 Corona, CA
    Dec. 12, 2013 11:13 a.m.

    @ Cougar11 "The patsy's they are playing this year is an embarrassment"

    Utah's patsies are font-end loaded, BYU's are back-end loaded during conference play. Just a little truth you and other Y fans either ignore or are oblivious to.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Dec. 12, 2013 11:52 a.m.

    @Poyman

    Utah and BYU don't play each other in football next year so you will have to find another reason or excuse to be bitter and to hate Utah. I'm sure you will come up something. You always seem too.

  • U 90 Corona, CA
    Dec. 12, 2013 12:45 p.m.

    @poyman "So tired of hearing about how tough the big bad pac12 is and how weak the WCC is... Truth is that the top 5 teams of the WCC would do very well against the top 5 pac12 teams on neutral sites...

    PAC12 vs. WCC (sagarin)
    #2 > #11
    18 > 22
    21 > 27
    33 > 78
    42 > 112

    Even with you cherry picking the top half of the WCC, it's not even close. It gets even worse when you consider the full WCC conference with mighty Santa Clara checking in at a stellar 201. Don't try to make the WCC something it really isn't.... tough.

  • Ute Bird Mascot Fruit Heights, UT
    Dec. 12, 2013 1:24 p.m.

    Crow
    Sandy , UT

    Tell me sir how will the loss total increase dramatically once Utah starts conference play. Utah has the depth, size, versitility, and skills to compete in the Pac-12.
    **********

    So, what you are saying is the Utes are back? NCAA Championship title game? Pac semis is what ya got? Yay Ute Football, done and gone. Yay Ute basketball, gave up before the season started. Yay PAC stickers!

    When is the parade?

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Dec. 12, 2013 1:39 p.m.

    "Neutral court should be out of state"

    Tracker:

    So I suppose you were the ONLY y "fan" who didn't claim the coug's upcoming 3-game football series with Univ of Arizona was a true home-and-home, since the third "neutral site" game will be at Univ. of Phoenix Stadium.

    Love the consistency, y "fans".

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 12, 2013 1:45 p.m.

    poyman,

    The top 5 WCC teams would do well against the top 5 Pac 12 teams?

    LOL. No.

    Arizona #1 in the country is better than #1 Gonzaga

    Top #15 Oregon is much better than unranked byu(if byu is second)

    Top 25 Colorado is better than unraked St. Mary's.

    LOL

  • Chewbacca Magna, UT
    Dec. 12, 2013 2:22 p.m.

    The cougar fans obsession with the PAC12 logos is hilarious! Do you know why we put them all over? Because, for thirty years we were told by rabid cougar fans that someday the PAC10 would expand again and take BYU in. Thats why we love to remind you that we got invited and you didn't.

  • killarney Lincoln Park, IL
    Dec. 12, 2013 3:54 p.m.

    Chewbacca

    "The Cougar fans obsession with the PAC 12 logos is hilarious! Do you know why we put them all over?"

    Easy answer.

    U put them all over everything because you have no accomplishments of your own to brag about:

    - 9-18 in football
    - 8-28 in basketball
    - 17-46 overall since joining the conference

  • anti BCS Anaheim, CA
    Dec. 12, 2013 3:56 p.m.

    "Utah and BYU don't play each other in football next year so you will have to find another reason or excuse to be bitter and to hate Utah."

    Arrogant, full-of-themselves Utah fans are reason enough.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Dec. 12, 2013 4:31 p.m.

    anti BCS

    As fans like you are enough reason for most Utah fans. Congrats! It must be tough being on the outside looking in!

  • lasermann Orem, UT
    Dec. 12, 2013 5:41 p.m.

    Bungalow -

    Boring for whom? The Cougars, maybe, since BYU continues to own Utah. And nifty recruiting will ensure that it stays that way for years. How does it feel to be dominated by "dust?" And running and hiding from Utah State (more dust?) is unbecoming and just plain wrong.

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    Dec. 12, 2013 5:42 p.m.

    "It must be tough being on the outside looking in!"

    At the bowls and the Big Dance.

    See Utah!

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    Dec. 12, 2013 6:09 p.m.

    SpokaneUte & Big Blue
    Thanks for the holiday wishes.

    I love the idea of having a Deseret Tournament at ESA. That would be a blast and would make for a post season type atmosphere early in the year. I don't think it would be difficult to sell enough tickets and market this enough to bring some decent financial returns. Maybe even have it around the Holiday season...would be epic. I say we start petitioning. I'll even take you both to dinner before the games to show how well Ute, Aggie and Cougar fans can get along, despite wearing different colors...well almost different between Cougs and Aggies anyway :)

  • Lightening Lad Austin , TX
    Dec. 12, 2013 7:03 p.m.

    Why worry about it? If there is a problem scheduling Utah or Utah State, I'm sure BYU fans would be willing to pay a bit more to have Baylor or Wake Forest visit again. In state games certainly don't create the interest as they did at one time when there were conference connections. If Dave Rose can schedule home and home with a team normally found in the top 25 or hanging close, that has to be a more exciting prospect win or lose. It sure helps RPI and rankings if you do get the win. Beating Utah doesn't buy the Cougars any respect

  • Sports Nutz Smithfield, UT
    Dec. 12, 2013 9:49 p.m.

    Chris, You gave examples of why you feel the pac 10 is better than the WCC, and yet there was no mention of your utes. Why would that be? According to you, just being in the pac 10 makes the utes the best team in the State of Utah....in every sport. Thanks for finally seeing it the way it is.

  • Reno Cougs Fan 68 Reno, NV
    Dec. 13, 2013 12:30 p.m.

    Chris B,
    Basketball is so different then football! More games, more chances for upsets!!! Kind of like SW Baptist over the Utes in the Huntsman Center a few seasons ago!!! I bet you did not think BYU would beat mighty Stanford on the road this season, did you? How do you think a team that scored 95 points against UMASS will only score 69 against the Utes?

    GO BYU RISE UP!!!

  • Reno Cougs Fan 68 Reno, NV
    Dec. 13, 2013 12:43 p.m.

    Bungalow,
    It has become so boring that fans and the muss rushed the field not once or twice but three times after the last game at RES!!! And how will you and the other Utah fans/ BYU haters react if Utah is able to upset the Cougs on Sat. That is why we go on each others articles and bait each other because this RIVALRY is anything but boring!!!

    GO BYU RISE UP!!!

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    Dec. 13, 2013 1:28 p.m.

    To all BYU fans.

    The Utes played USU in Logan in 2010 so we haven't been afraid of playing them there. Do you really expect us to believe 1 out of every 3 in Logan is a balanced schedule? Anyone who believes ESA is truly a neutral court for BYU is kidding themselves. Go ahead and dis our preseason schedule. We'll make up for it in the regular season when we play 5 games against ranked opponents (one of those happens to be the current #1) while BYU will only be playing 2. That's assuming Gonzaga hangs on to its ranking. One loss to any team in the WCC and that ranking goes bye bye.

  • Swiss Price, Utah
    Dec. 14, 2013 8:40 a.m.

    Cant find the game on cable here. Lets stop playing Utah until they get on a better tv plan than the PAC 12. It was worth leaving the MWC its worth skipping playing Utah. Maybe it we move all the bball games to Energy Solutions we could get better TV coverage.