Of course Jefferson is going to defend his coach. Of course he wants to be
classified as a team player. However, the fact is the Jazz are rediculas.
4-19? The team is terrible and everyone (except the Jazz leadership) knows it.
Keep things the way they are and we'll have a terrible season and end up in
last place in the league. Is that where we are heading? Is that what
Good Grief, relax everyone. These guys are young and talented and they need time
to develop. Wasn't that the whole point of getting rid of Milsap,
Jefferson, Mo Williams etc?? If these were veteran players, the Jazz would be
screwed, but they're not, they are young and getting better and better.I'm not calling for coaches job, because he's doing his job.
The fact that I go to games does not give me the right to call for Corbin's
head. He's a good coach. The Jazz will not bring home a division title this
year, but in time they will be very good.
People who spell ridiculous as rediculas are ridiculous.
I don't think the fans are outsiders. And the fans are not stupid. We all
bought in for youth development.Playing the older vetzz many, many minutes is
not doing it. And since this is just "opinions" no Corbin is not a good
I have to disagree with Jefferson's assessment of Tyrone Corbin's
coaching abilities. Corbin has, over the past few seasons, made
mistakes an experienced college coach would never make. Bad lineups, bad plays,
players playing too long, pulling "hot" players out when they should
have been left in, not teaching players to block out, and continuing to favor
playing veterans over developing the youngsters. I wonder what Jefferson's
opinion would be if he was riding the pine?Corbin is a likeable man,
but he (in my opinion) does not know what he is doing. How do I know that? For
15 years, I watched a basketball genius by the name of Rick Majerus coach the
Utes. Year in and year out, Majerus would take players most teams would never
have recruited and beat big time programs. How? He taught them the fundamentals
of the game of basketball.Rick Majerus always said the game of
basketball was easy to understand. "Block out, defend, pass the ball, score
easy baskets and the wins will come. You won't win every game, but
you'll be 'in' almost every game." - Rick Majerus
It is nice that the players are supportive. But the fact remains that when we,
normal weekend players but long time jazz fans, watch how this team plays, it is
quite obvious that the players more often than not look lost, play with low
energy and make basic mistakes. Added to that, the coach also does not seem to
have a feel for proper substitution or player rotation. And I am not even
getting into game time adjustments and strategy where Ty will probably be close
to last in the league. It does not seem like coach Ty has what it
takes to get the players to play a certain way, with energy for 48 mins, which
is all one can ask as a fan. Given that Jazz as a organization does not fire
coaches mid-season, I suppose they can let Ty work through this season and make
the change for next. Hopefully it wont cause long term damage for the
team's culture and spirit.
It's imperative that a young team have a coach who is a good teacher and
one that they feel comfortable with. Corbin, by all accounts I've heard
from professionals in the NBA, fills that requirement. Just a reminder to those
that bash Corbin and think he is a poor coach..the Jazz in the second half of
the season will be a different team, a more exciting, productive, winning team
IMO. We all hope that the Jazz get a dynamic SF in the next draft, but
let's patiently watch the core-5 (including Trey) as they develop.
Biedrens doesn't hurt the offensive flow? Please Ty, don't insult our
intelligence. Maybe Jefferson has a point. No longer does Ty fail to make
defense for offense and offense for defense substitutions. Maybe Ty is
learning. Oh, maybe that's because the poorest defensive player in the
league, Al Jefferson, is no longer on the team. That's probably it because
Ty makes so many more mistakes such as failing to properly defensive scheme for
the pick and roll, still waiting too long to call timeouts, putting the ball in
Hayward's hands in crunch time, etc.
How can the core five develope if he sits the youth and plays the older group-??
Ty is not going to change. If there is one older player on the team he will
play them over the youth. If Jazz do not make a change soon the one bad apple
will spoil the bunch..
“I trust in Coach Ty,” Burks said, “and everybody else
does.”If a player comes out and blasts the coach, playing time
has a tendency to disappear...trades began to loom on the horizon...Could it be that the players think no one else wants them...That no one else
would trade for them?So... the fact that the players "...trust
in Coach Ty..."...could simply be wise...professional preservation...under
the current circumstances...when there is no place else to go to make the kind
of money they are making even though they are well on their way to becoming the
worst team (by record) in the history of the franchise as well as the worst team
in the history of the NBA...
I don't think the players were lying in their support of Coach Corbin. We
don't know what goes on inside the locker room and how he motivates,
prepares and teaches the team members. He NEVER puts them down in the media and
always sounds encouraging. Perhaps he is too nice, I don't know. But give
them the time needed to develop, grow and get stronger. They'll get it. We
just need to be patient for awhile longer. It's called rebuilding!Go Jazzboys tonight!!!
Anybody that truly follows the Jazz knows that this year is about developing and
evaluating the young talent. Corbin is doing that just fine. This off season the
Jazz will have multiple lottery picks and clear cap space, then the next 2 years
will be about building a contender.Then it's back to the same old
story...Will the high caliber draft picks stay once their initial contract
expires. Will any high caliber free agents be willing to come to Utah. Will any
high caliber veteran players be willing to accept a trade to the Jazz.
I forgot to add that although it's about developing the young talent, if a
player is struggling or not putting out an honest effort then you put him on the
bench to teach him a lesson. That's what Corbin does.
Playing Beidrins and Jefferson over Gobert, Burkes, and Clarke may just result
in an extra win or two this season. That apparently is Ty's goal: to win
20 games.Since we accept that the Jazz will stink no matter what, we
fans understand that winning 18 games and developing the youth is much more
important than winning 20 games and waiting years longer for the young guys to
develop.We all understand this. Why doesn't Ty? Is 20 wins
really that much better than 18?
Of course Jefferson loves Ty, every over the hill veteran would love to play for
Ty since he has such a disdain for rookies. You can see the look of disgust in
his face every time a young guy makes a mistake, i've noticed that
disgusted look also goes out to Kanter. His respect for veterans obviously
extends to anyone who has been playing basketball for a long time whether
it's in other country's or D league. He even goes so far as to insert
Harris, a career over-seas and D league player who is a 6'6" undersized
power forward to match up with 6'11" Aldridge where he was obviously
over matched just to keep from putting Gobert in the game. Let us also not
forget how long he went with Lucas who is obviously not an NBA caliber player
before he finally figured out what the fans knew from day one. It is
painfully obvious that Corbin is absolutely not the coach to be managing a
rebuilding team that is trying to develop the youth. He was definitely not being
truthful when he told the Jazz front office he was on board with the youth
The hottest player in the Portland game was Alec Burks and Corbin to elected to
set him down the stretch and play Jefferson, sorry I don't get it.
Exactly Shaybo. we must remember that Jefferson was a DNP Coach's Decision
bench warmer in both San Antonio and Golden State, comes to Utah, posts a
horrible PER (one of the worst among starters in the league), receives plenty of
praise from Corbin and plays starters minutes when he is a liability on both
ends of the court and plays at the expense of players who are still developing.
And as you point out, there really is no excuse for ever playing Harris.
He's 6/6"! He can't rebound against guys 6 inches taller than him.
Biedrins boards, but disrupts the offense, and Gobert is already a much more
capable player. Corbin is the ideal tanking coach... and it's like he
doesn't even try to lose.
shaybo hits the nail on the head. If you do not know what that means ask grandpa
Most of these posts make sense to me. Corbin is limited in his coaching ability.
It is obvious thag when things are going bad most institutions go for a coach
change. Coaches determine the futures of most teams. Corbins weaknesses are made
manifest here. Let's see how it plays out the next few road games. I watch
the coach as much as I do the players.
Then why don't all of you apply for the job? You seem to know just how to
do it and the money is good. Does someone get to openly criticize you at the
job you do? If you aren't doing it right then it is up to your boss to
fire you. Let Ty's boss decide if he is doing his job the right way!
Teams do not play like they did last night for a coach they don't like!!!
I'm done. Now you guys are telling players how to feel about their coach.
Also critiquing his performance as if you have more knowledge than the players
themselves. What are the credentials here? Amazing. Have fun squawking.
@Grandmajazz, I guess the Jazz must have liked Corbin 5 times and not liked him