First off, I give some credit to ISU. They look about 200% improved from last
year, they can shoot and play zone defense pretty well. They may do pretty well
against most of the Big Sky aside from Weber.However, this game
should've never been competitive. Utah played sloppy offense and lazy
defense the entire first half. Coach K may not have been overlooking this game,
but it definitely seemed like the players were. The win wasn't impressive,
but they at least avoided the embarrassment of losing a game comparable to what
Sacramento State and CS-Northridge were last year. The only real positive was
seeing Loveridge break out of his scoring funk lately. BYU plays a lot of that
match up zone, so hopefully they will attack it on the drive inside like they
started to do in the second half tonight.
Very sloppy game! Give credit to ISU, they played great, but that was an abysmal
first half.The only positive I took away was the fact that the Utes
played against the zone all night which will prepare them for the matchup
against BYU. If the Utes can penetrate BYUs zone like they did against ISU in
the second half, I believe they should win. If they can't penetrate and
they settle for outside jumpers all game, it could be a long night.GO UTES!
Great team win. Idaho state came out strong but we pulled through. The huntsman center is rocking these days. Proud ute! Proud PAC 12
fan. Utah 77Byu 69And remember, the team with more
points is the better team. That's how sports work.
Thinking about it, if I'm not mistaken the Utes made 6/7 3's in the
second half compared to 5/15 in the first. Amazing how attacking a zone, driving
and kicking, can open up good shots compared to swing passes around the
perimeter! Now keep it up on Saturday and Loveridge, Tucker, Taylor, Van Dyke
and Ogbe could all potentially have a big night.
Get real, the Uties are toast on Saturday night. The barely beat Idaho State.
ISU's best player wouldn't even make the BYU roster. BYU by 25 on
Never thought I'd see the day when the Utah Utes from the Conference of
Champions would take such great pride in beating a lower half of the Big Sky
conference with a 3 - 3 record. I didn't see the game, but I'm
wondering if the 8,000 attendees rushed the court?Very disappointed
I don't get to see the Utes vs the Cougs this weekend. With my 400+
channels on DirecTV, I think I will see every other Cougar game, but this one is
hidden away on the PAC network, which is not as available as The MTN used to be.
Even though the win was much more difficult than it should have been for the
Utes, the positive takeaway from this is that they came back from a 15 point
deficit to WIN. The teams from the past two seasons would have easily LOST this
game.8 - 1 feels pretty good right now. Hope it's 9 - 1 after
Saturday's game against the Cougars.GO UTES!
All Right!!! Give me five!!! Up High!!! YES!What a great come
back... Down by 15 in the first half and the utes came back to knock over that
big bad tough foe from the dreaded Big Sky Conference who has a 3-3 record with
losses to such teams as Cal State Bakersfield, who came within 30 points of
ASU, and who are picked to finish 7th in the Big Sky this year just behind
Portland State but ahead of Sac State who beat the utes in SLC last year...This brave and fabulous performance came on the heels of a landmark win
over the Bull Dogs of Fresno State who dropped a 10 point heartbreaker to the
Pacific Tigers who are picked to finish 4th or 5th in the WCC... They also
played the Pitt Panthers tough right down to the opening Tip Off and lost by
over 20 they bounce however and beat Northern Arizona by 4 in OT.So
let's all pat ourselves on the back and talk about how the utes are going
to take down the #12 RPI rated Cougars of BYU... LOL... Cougars 83
utes 69 (Thanks to end of game garbage time).
Nice comeback, Utah.The team has really gelled and has some solid
players. Coach K has done a phenomenal job!Looking forward to
Saturday's game against BYU. It should be a barn burner.
LOL Idaho State gave them a run for their money. It is hilarious to see the
Utah fans thinking they have a basketball team once again. Enjoy these few wins
here at the beginning of a weak pre-season schedule because reality is about to
kick in.BYU 85Utah 68
@2013 Ute Seniors SWEEP byU 4-0Ogden, UT"Great team win.
Idaho state came out strong but we pulled through.The huntsman
center is rocking these days.Proud ute! Proud PAC 12 fan.Utah 77Byu 69And remember, the team with more points is the
better team. That's how sports work."I don't like to
make predictions but I'm fine with yours! Saturday can't come soon
enough for us to see how your prediction turns out. Hope it's going to be
a great and fun game to watch.Go Cougars!!!
The lack of enthusiasm is on Coach K. Our guys were not excited about ISU and it
showed. Coach finally took a time out in the 2nd half to yell and get them
motivated. Can't do that against the PAC 12 or decent teams like BYU or
even Boise. Boise actually played Kentucky pretty tough. Utah will
win 19 games this year and make it to a post season tourney this year. Arizona,
UCLA, Colorado, Oregon, Cal are all looking really tough this year.
@ Joe Schmoe How will byu hold Utah to 69 points they don’t
play defense. On average byu is giving up 80.4 points per game Utah 60.9. Utah
is #1 in scoring margin 26.8, BYU 78th 9.5. Like the Utah teams of old caoch K
has Utah playing defense unlike a byu Dave Rose coached team that has to play
zone because of their lack of athleticism.BYU has one big man Mika
and he is prone to getting into foul trouble while he is sitting on the bench
byu throws in Nate Austin who cant defend which was evident in the Iowa St game.
Utahs bigs Lenz and Bachynski will dominate Mika and Austin. byu does not have
an answer for Wright who is leading the nation with 74% shooting average.Utah 87 byu of the wcc 65If you dont think Utah is getting the
talent Lenz was offered by Auburn, Gonzaga, USC, Texas and Virginia Tech. Wright
was offered by Washington, Washington State, St. Mary's and Gonzaga
Like our friends in Provo always say, its better to beat worse teams than LOSE
to ranked teams.Go Utes!I GUARANTEE Utah wins this
Saturday.Get the crow ready for our friends in blue
Yes weak schedule, too many cupcakes...sounds like BYU football...er I mean...Go
Western Catholic Conference!
I think there is a very good chance that the swoops (trying to be PC) will get
into the final four this year. They will walk all over the cougs Saturday and
easily take the pac 10.2 championship. My only disappointment this year is that
there has not been an announcement for building a bigger basketball arena, as
the current one just cannot and will not hold the fans that are wanting tickets.
Louisiana Coug, thank you. You actually contribute to the board. Good win? meh, it's a win and better than losing.Disappointed the team came out flat, but the at least the team came back.
Probably is a game the Utes lose last year, definitely 2 years ago when they
didn't have the talent, or gumption to dig out of a 15 point hole, no
matter who the opponent was.Saturday should be fun.Go
I think it's a little bit of a stretch to think the Utes can dominate the
Cougs. BYU will be by far the best team they have played and one of the top
scoring teams in the country. BYU is the better team and should win. With that
said, Utah has some athleticism and could cause the Cougs some problems on the
defensive end of things. Utah's one weakness is their inside game. That
will need to change come Saturday if they want to win. I don't think the
Utes will be ready for the Cougs up tempo style. BYU should win this game, but
the Utes can pull off the upset if they play their best game of the year.
For all you Y fans dissing Utah's win last night . . . uh, who is YOUR
opponent tonight? Oh, that's right, the powerhouse known as
Prairie View A&M. Really???
@CrowHAHAHA you really think your #1 in scoring margin is a legit
stat? The teams you have played so far this year are a complete joke. lets look
at these teams you have destroyed so far. UC Davis, Grand Canyon (is this an
actual college? or did you guys just go sight seeing and called it a win?),
Lamar, savannah state, Ball st, You lost to a semi decent Boise Team, and beat a
terrible Fresno State team, then squeaked by Idaho State? Your RPI in in the
upper 12000's. I think Lone peak high school could beat most of these
teams. Its interesting how the hypocrisy flip flops from your views of football
and basketball. @christyThis is yet another failed
guarantee. Your guarantee's are irrelevant when you say it every game and
were wrong 7-12 times in football. 12-13 wins this weekend. Let the streak
continue! Go cougs
nhatch,The only question for Saturday is which excuse byu fans will
use for the loss?1) The Pac 12 refs2) The weather inside the
HC that somehow impacted byu and not UtahLOL
@ImaUteFanByu currently holds the #8 RPI in the nation!Utah is sitting at #121 in RPI!I think BYU can take a little break
after playing a tough preseason schedule. That break will come with Prairie View
A&M and a Utah team that is close to getting back to where it once was but
still 1-2 out
Rumor now that future Utah/byu games are in jeopardy. Just as I have always
said, byu needs to get ready to accept 2 for 1's in football and basketball
if they want to play us. Power conference teams have more power in negotiations
than non power conference teams. We already have a great schedule with teams
such as Oregon, UCLA, Arizona, and many others on the schedule year after year
after year. The little guys want to play the big boy teams more than
the big boy teams need to schedule down to lower conferences.There
are plenty of teams that would LOVE to get a Pac 12 team on their schedule, and
not too many that want a WCC team on their schedule. Just another
benefit of being in the prestigious Pac 12, we have all the negotiating
leverage.Want to play us?Fine, the price is a 2 for
1.Don't like it? Tough.
The Utes were lucky on this one. I have seen BYU and they look tough this year.
The Utes will be tested and better play their best game of the year on
Saturday. The home court should help. If Haws and Carlino are both on their
game I see BYU winning by 10 points.
Dan,How embarrassing will a loss to the #121 team be?
"And remember, the team with more points is the better team. That's how
sports work."You are absolutely right. That is how it worked
the last 7 games they played.Seriously, I think Coach K has Utah on
the right track. The game against Boise State, BYU's game last year and
the PAC12 tournament run proved that.I will be a good game and I am
NOT making any predictions.
Almost comical "how the ball bounces". Utes were not getting rebounds.
My favorite was when an Idaho State player got a rebound while on his back! He
managed to kick it out to a teammate for the score. Glad the Utes
stuck with it and came back for the win.
@christinaPlaying utah add's nothing to BYU's schedule
outside of tradition. utah is a terrible losing program that hasn't done
anything positive in more than half a decade. They have dragged BYU's SOS
for years and BYU would be better off not playing them and playing a team ranked
consistently higher than utah like montana or the university of denver. Beating
down a terrible program 7 times in a row and 11 of 12 just isn't much
fun.That said it is a traditional game in this state so BYU should
grant utah a game provided utah can bring its average ranking up into the
100's instead of the 300's, short of that utah is just to big a
detriment to BYU's SOS and RPI to be worth bothering with.
@ poymanYou keep harping on BYU's great RPI record. Just to let you
know byu belongs in the wcc conference and once conference play starts byu will
play one quality team just like Utah is done during the front end of their
schedule (Boise State). Your RPI ranking will take a big downward spiral since
the only legitimate team in the wcc is Gonzaga. Utah’s RPI will only
increase once they start PAC 12 play. Utah will play 4 teams currently in the
top 26 including the #1 team in the Country Arizona. Again byu will play the
slubs of the wcc . Last night was a big win for Utah in so many ways. It
prepped Utah for byu’s zone defense that they like to run since byu is not
athletic and cannot play man. It showed that Utah can come back from being down
by 15; Utah’s teams in the past would have folded. Utah is getting better
and as bad as Utah was in the past they never finished with a 1-26 record.
"We already have a great schedule with teams such as Oregon, UCLA,
Arizona"RPI Rankings:Arizona #12Oregon #15UCLA #33Average: #20St. Marys #9Gonzaga #20Pacific #26Average: #18Maybe those stupid computers
don't realize that they should bump up teams an additional 5 spots because
they are in the "mighty" PAC12.
I don't think the Utes looked as sharp last night as they did in previous
games. However, a win is a win. We shall find out how good they are come
Saturday. The bad thing about BYU, is they will still claim to have a better
team even if they get beat; they will resort to the Saragin rankings to justify
this. I guess if you can't beat them on the playing field, you can always
go to plan B.
Crow - BYU might have gone 1-25, but three years later they were a 20-win team -
and they didn't pad their schedule with no-name schools like Utah has done
this year in order to get there. You should be utterly embarrassed about the
schedule the Utes have played the last few years. I love the
hyprciscy of Utah fans - bagging on BYU for playing Idaho State but then ranting
and raving when you come back from 15 down and beat them. You do realized they
are a Big Sky team, right? Picked to finish in the middle of their conference,
or lower. And you are whooping and hollering about this win??? Speaks volumes as to the depth the Utah basketball program has fallen to.
@ nhatch82 Stats dont lie even if it is against the talent Utah has played they
are still dominating the teams like they should be.Dont worry
nhatch82 BYU will have their shot to extend their scoring margin (maybe) since
they play in the wcc. But then again byu does not play defense so even the slubs
of the wcc should be able to score at will on byu.
Chris B,Good but not great win over ISU! If Utah can slow the game down
and keep BYU from getting lots of points in transition and in the paint they
might have a chance but BYU is already battle tested and a bit scarred (Mika)!!!
I do not see the MUSS rushing the court after this one!!!GO BYU RISE
chrissyplease don't embarrass swoop grads. your infatuation with the
pac 10.2 is NOT healthy. I recommend getting out of the confines of SLC and
really see that aside from you and a few others no one cares about pac 10.2 or
any conference for that matter.
1978,What someone really needs to do apparently is tell the AP
voters they really need to look at the RPI since the experts in the AP have byu
not ranked and yet according to the RPI byu is better than Duke, Ohio State,
Michigan State, and Kentucky!LOL
Chris,I hope you are kidding when you say that in order for BYU to
play Utah in the future it will have to be a 2 for 1. Utah in no way can ask
that of a team that has beaten them the way BYU has over the last few years. Do
you think Colorado could make an above average team agree to a 2 for 1 in
football because they are in the "mighty Pac 12" and their opponent is
not? I don't think so. That only works when you're playing a proven
and consistently strong program. I hate to break it to you but Utah is by no
means a proven and consistently strong basketball program.
@ 1978That will change once they play the slubs in the wcc. The difference
with the WCC and the PAC. The wcc slubs have to schedule the front end of their
schedules with teams from premier conferences to inflate their RPI rankings. But
their rankings will take a downward spiral once conference play starts and their
strength of schedule takes a big hit. @ DuckhunterUtah for years was
taking a big hit in their RPI ranking when they played byu. It caused Utah to be
seeded lower in the NCAA tourney because they had to play the byus of old with
records of 1-26. College sports is cyclical during the era byu was pulling
off their impressive 1-26 record Utah was dominating the WAC and MWC it takes
time to rebuild a program. Utah unfortunately hired two poor coaches and paid
the price. Utah has the right Coach, talented players and is on an upward climb.
By years end Utahs RPI will be in the top 50 byus will be in the mid 60s
to low 90s thanks to the two difference conferences they are in. Utah also has
every right to demand 2 for 1 it does nothing to play a wcc team for Utah.
Chris B"I GUARANTEE Utah wins this Saturday"I
was talking to someone the other day about whether or not God will hold us
accountable for the things we post on these message boards. We didn't come
to any real conclusion. If God does hold us accountable, I hope for the sake of
some Utah fans that He doesn't factor in predictability.
It's so funny how Utah in football was terrible, but the fans pound their
chests about SOS. BYU got beat by Utah head to head but BYU fans beat the better
overall record drum. Each one arguing how the other was completely wrong, and
how they were completely right. Now Basketball comes around and Utah
has the better W/L record, but has been owned by BYU but the Utah fans pound
their chests about the better overall record, and BYU has the head to head, but
more losses but pound the SOS drum.
"The bad thing about BYU, is they will still claim to have a better team
even if they get beat"No - Only when EVERY national ranking
service (including Sagarin) verifies that fact based on a whole season's
results.On the other hand BYU beat USU last year 6-3 but I believe
that USU was the best football team in the state last year - period. All of the
national rankings backed that up. All of the BYU fans I know agree
with me. I just stated something that a Utah fan would never admit if they were
in the same situation.
Spokane UteSpokane, WAI don't think the Utes looked as
sharp last night as they did in previous games. However, a win is a win. We
shall find out how good they are come Saturday. The bad thing about BYU, is they
will still claim to have a better team even if they get beat;===If BYU beats Utah and is ranked higher at the end of the season, Utah is
better than BYU in my book.@Chris BDude, you always make
me laugh. I wanna party with you sometime... Let's meet at the Pie before
the game. I'm buying! I'm guessing you will be the guy (or gal)dressed
in red, with a PAC tatoo?
Listen - if Utah wants to run scared from playing BYU by demanding a 2 for 1
(which it appears that they are) then so be it. I have advocated for a long
time that BYU should stop playing Utah all together. We don't need them
and quite frankly they do not need us.But the arrogance displayed by
Hill, coack k, and the whole Utah organization in general, based on their
membership in the PAC11+u is pretty funny. Usually you get arrogant when you do
something on the field of play - but not Utah. With their obsession with the
PAC12 Utah fans look utterly ridiculous. But hey, if those PAC12 banners
flapping from your car make you feel good, then go for it!
Balan - Your comment "I love the hyprciscy of Utah fans" has me laughing
out loud. Oh, that is rich.You BYU fans wrote the book on
CrowSandy , UTUtah also has every right to demand 2 for 1 it
does nothing to play a wcc team for Utah.===Compared to
the power preseason that Utah has scheduled?
@crowYou are quickly overtaking christina as the most ridiculous
poster on these boards, that is if you aren't just another one of
christina's 4000 screen names which I think there is a pretty high
@poyman "All Right!!! Give me five!!! Up High!!! YES!What a great come back... Down by 15 in the first half and the utes came back
to knock over that big bad tough foe from the dreaded Big Sky Conference who has
a 3-3 record with losses to such teams as Cal State Bakersfield, who came within
30 points of ASU, and who are picked to finish 7th in the Big Sky this year just
behind Portland State but ahead of Sac State who beat the utes in SLC last
year..."Isn't this the same big bad tough foe that knocked
off the U. of San Francisco on the road? The WCC coaches picked USF to finish
4th behind Gonzaga, BYU and St. Mary's....Also, ASU beat ISU by
12, not 30.I'm certainly not saying ISU is a good basketball
team, I'm just saying they aren't as bad as you make them sound. Enjoy the game Saturday, I think you might be a little surprised by how
improved the Utes are this year. The best future NBA player from Utah colleges
just might be wearing #55 for the Utes. Delon Wright (Dorell's little
brother) is a stud!Go Utes!
@Veritas Aequitas "@Chris BDude, you always make me
laugh. I wanna party with you sometime... Let's meet at the Pie before the
game. I'm buying! I'm guessing you will be the guy (or gal)dressed in
red, with a PAC tatoo?"LOL I want to see this Chris B person
too. I'm betting he or she will be wearing blue with a tattoo of Cosmo!
Is it possible that this is a very convincible BYU troll posing as a Utes
fan?Thanks for the laugh!
Any D1 Pac 12 school who has to come from behind to beat Idaho State is not
good! An ok win against an ISU team that really isn't any better than they
were last year. If you think ISU is outstanding competition than you don't
know basketball. The Utes are improved and it wouldn't surprise me it they
Beat BYU. But just like the football team they are going to finish at the
bottom of the pack 12. Maybe a little higher … I just remembered, the PAC
12 is a horrible basketball conference. Out of 12 teams they have 2 teams that
have top 20 teams. Oregon and Arizona. It's too early to tell if UCLA is
going to be any good. I can tell you I believe the Utes are a 20 win team.
But, only if they play Idaho State 15 more times!
UtesBy5,Arizona State beat ISU 88-60, that would be 28 points not
@ Duckhunter"Playing utah add's nothing to BYU's
schedule outside of tradition. ... They have dragged BYU's SOS for years
and BYU would be better off not playing them and playing a team ranked
consistently higher than utah like montana or the university of denver. …
That said it is a traditional game in this state so BYU should grant utah a game
provided utah can bring its average ranking up into the 100's instead of
the 300's, short of that utah is just to big a detriment to BYU's SOS
and RPI to be worth bothering with."-----How does your head make
it through the doorways in your house? If I remember correctly, you actually had
a good post a week or two ago regarding how teams go through periods of being up
and down. It's true. Utah hit the very bottom a couple years
ago. They've obviously improved and will continue to do so. There will be a
low again for your team too. Just remember that. There's no
"granting" the other team an opportunity to play a game for either side.
BYU 103 (unless utah milks 34 seconds of the clock every time which seems to be
their strategy when they play the Mighty Cougars).utah 68Haws
and Carlino light it up for 60. Mika has career night 25. chris b
guarantees win - spells disaster for utah.
@utesby5So a score of 88 for ASU and 60 for the big bad bengals of
Idaho State equals a difference of 12 points to you eh??? Based on that kind of
math I can see where you come up with a potential ute wictory over BYU... enven
I don't think that the Cougs will get the utes by 30 in SLC.SF
was picked to finish 4th by the coaches before they lost their PG and one of
their Bigs... "Team Rankings" however, has SF at 8th ahead of only
Loyola Marymount and Pepperdine and this publication calculates this prediction
based on actual statistics... But yes Idaho State nudged a very depleted SF by 3
@BYU FansIt could be worse, we could be you.BYU 16 Virgina 19 (2-9)Virginia's ONLY D1 win.Disappointed in how we played, but impressed that when down 15, rather then
quit, we found a way to win.Utah 93 BYU 86Go
"Utes rally to defeat Idaho State in 10th consecutive home win"Yeah, the utes are back.
@Crow"Stats dont lie even if it is against the talent Utah has
played they are still dominating the teams like they should be."Silliest Comment I have heard since the last time ChrisB opened his mouth!
Actually Crow the stats are VERY deceiving in this case. Any logical Ute fan
will understand the #121 team in the country with a record of 9-0 doesn't
CougarSunDevil,"It's so funny how Utah in football was
terrible, but the fans pound their chests about SOS. BYU got beat by Utah head
to head but BYU fans beat the better overall record drum. Each one arguing how
the other was completely wrong, and how they were completely right. Now Basketball comes around and Utah has the better W/L record, but has been
owned by BYU but the Utah fans pound their chests about the better overall
record, and BYU has the head to head, but more losses but pound the SOS
drum."The really funny thing is that the same heated argument
was going on in reverse 15 years ago when BYU was clearly the dominant football
program and Utah the dominant basketball program. Funny how perspectives shift!
@ CougarSunDevilHow does BYU own the head to head over Utah in hoops
when they haven't even played yet? Don't count your
chickens..........In football, if BYU loses to Washington they more
than likely will be behind Utah in the Saragin rankings. Then what? Will BYU
fans actually admit Utah had the better team? I will believe it, when I see it.
I guess if and when BYU actually beats Utah in football I can revisit the issue.
It's just been so long since that happened. Beat Utah, pretty simple
concept when you think about it; no formula required.
Maybe Utah and BYU should just play each other to see who the best team is.Silly me; Now I'm talking crazy!
Utes have a great coach. He can lead them to the win on Saturday.
@poyman"So a score of 88 for ASU and 60 for the big bad bengals
of Idaho State equals a difference of 12 points to you eh??? Based on that kind
of math I can see where you come up with a potential ute wictory over BYU...
enven I don't think that the Cougs will get the utes by 30 in SLC."Sorry, I read the score 80-68 which is a 12 point margin. Where did I predict a potential Ute "wictory"? And "enven" you
don't think that the cougs will get the Utes by 30?Thanks,
I'm sure "Team Rankings" is more accurate than the WCC coaches in
projecting how the WCC teams will finish. So you defend USF by
pointing out a couple of injuries that caused them to lose to ISU? Based on that
logic, imagine what 6-6 Michigan would have done to the 1984 *National Champions
if Jim Harbaugh and the other injured Wolverines had played in byu's come
from behind win. Of course, Michigan wouldn't have finished 7th in the
BIG-10 and would have been invited to a better bowl with their players healthy.
These comments are hysterical. Now I remember why I love reading the DN comment
boards. BOTH of these programs have had great success in the past, with great
tradition...one has been up while the other was down, except in the 80s when
both bball programs were great...Ainge, Durrant, Fred Roberts, Greg Kite,
etc...Pace Manion, Tom Chambers...amazing time for bball in the state of Utah. I
for one hope those days return and both these programs can compete at the high
level of those 80s teams at the same time. Right now BYU is the better program
with 7 straight and 11 of 12 but Utah's getting much better. Good luck to
both programs moving forward...it would be great to see BYU, Utah state, and
Utah all going to the dance every year. That's the difference in
bball...rankings don't matter, it's how you finish the year at The
Show. All that said, BYU wins Saturday because I think they are
simply the better team right now, despite the gap shortening. And I think Utah
fans dissing BYUs athleticism are a bit naive, and BYU has a big advantage in
the front line.BYU 82 Utah 75
This is how the ending of this game would have gone had it been football:"The ISU QB takes the snap, rolls to his right, scrambles, finds an
open man and....INTERCEPTED. Utes hold on for the win!" Barely
losing to Boise on the road and barely beating ISU at home is never a good
thing. ISU could have easily won that game. Since everyone is now
discussing the BYU game, BYU wears teams out in the second half, especially
teams not used to running the floor and scoring a lot like USU. Utah averaged
96 points per game vs very weak competition. 78 points per game in last 5,
playing only one good team. BYU is averaging 85 points per game in their last 5
facing the likes of Texas, WSU, USU, and UMass, two of those ranked. If BYU can
score 96 on the road at #21 UMass, it shouldn't be hard to handle Utah who
is not used to playing tough teams at all. BYU is #5 in scoring, #9
in rebounds, and #10 in assists. The team plays fast, hard, and as a team.
Utah may have to score at least 90 to beat BYU. Doesn't look good for
@ StrikerWhat makes you think BYU can hold Utah under 90? The Cougs
play terrible D
"... despite the gap shortening."Utes beating ISU is
shortening the gap??? LOL
If Utah has a chance of beating BYU in the next few years its going to be
Saturday. That being said I don't think it will be close. But BYU does have
a way of bringing the fight out in the utes.Hey Chris B. and all of
your other identities. If you are so sure of a W on Saturday then please make
the same agreement you made prior to September, 21. If BYU beats U then
you'll quit posting for the entire basketball season.Taker?I bet not. Deep down you know it is a good thing you are posting
@utesby5Sorry about the type-o's... I'm just not that good
of typist and I don't really care enough when debating ute hoop fans to
proof read. One thing that I've learned however, since I've started
posting on the DN articles is that when somebody is getting beat in Debate they
often turn into "proof readers" and immediately start grading spelling,
punctuation and grammar. But I have to say, that is your best argument so
far.After reading your last paragraph I can tell that you really
didn't understand my point or else it went over your head... What I was
saying is... When the Coaches voted on who they thought would win the
Conference, both SF's Big and the highly regarded PG were big parts of
their Basketball Program... Shortly after the Season started and the Polling was
done and posted, these two players walked away from the team and decided not to
play this season... Had the polling occurred after this, then the coaches would
have picked them to finish towards the bottom of the Conference... And the site,
Team Rankings is a more accurate predictor because they use actual stats.
@sammy"Utes beating ISU is shortening the gap??? LOL"I'm a fellow BYU fan, and yes the gap is shortening. Utah is much better
this year than the last few years and will give our cougars all they can handle
on Saturday. I love BYU, love their athletics, but fans who's vision is
clouded to reality on either side of this rivalry just end up looking crazy when
the games all over. I'm sick of the hatred in this rivalry. I don't
like the Utes but I'm also turning over new leaf and giving them credit
where it's due and cheering them on as representatives of this state.
Don't let BYU haters (we all know who I'm referring to) make you hate
Ute players, coaches, and the many classy members of their fanbase (some are my
relatives, and many share the same faith that most BYU fans do). Merry Christmas
and happy holidays, Sammy...after all we're going bowling and have a top 15
RPI in bball...life is good brother.
@ Duckhunter I am not Chris B and I do not guarantee wins. Talking to Utah
Coaches preseason they were very concerned with the lack of depth at several of
the skill positions. After losing Scott, Wilson, Murphy, and Tonga I knew that
the offense would be limited and being in a premier league the wins would be
difficult to come by. I knew that I intimidate you because I speak the
truth and it burns you as a Utah hater. You simply cant admit that with Utah
being in a premier league it is going to change the athletic programs for the U
of U for the better.
@PoymanLet me try again to help you understand that USF had a
complete team when they lost to ISU.First, the WCC coaches were
polled on October 24th and picked USF to finish 4th in the WCC. Two of the
Dons' players were selected to the All-WCC Team, Cole Dickerson and Cody
Doolin.Both Dickerson and Doolin were in the lineup during the ISU
game on November 18th. The Dons were completely healthy for the game in which
they were defeated by ISU 93-90.To give you some credit, Cody Doolin
is no longer on the roster because of an altercation with another teammate
during practice. He left the team on November 26th. FYI, he led the Dons in
minutes during their loss to ISU.Yes, you are correct that the Dons
would not be the 4th best team in the conference after Doolin left, however,
their loss to ISU was eight days prior to his departure, when USF had their full
team.As duckhunter would say, "fail".
@utesby5...I would say nice try on the recovery, but it really
wasn't... Your comment is on record, anyone can read your post about how
you thought that I was defending USF's loss to Idaho State when I was
obviously trying to point out that you were giving too much credit of the
predicted strength of the USF team... It is true that both Doolin (their star)
and Dickerson played in the OT loss to the Bengals but it was Doolin's last
game before he headed back to his home in Texas to mentally recover... So I am
thinking that their heads couldn't have been completely into the game at
that point.Different topic...I find it humorus that you go out of
your way to say that you didn't claim that the utes would beat the Cougs...
Perhaps you can tell me what "utesby5" means then... lol.Seems like you enjoy taking shots at BYU and the WCC... Did you know that if
the utes were in the WCC their RPI would rank 5th??? and their SOS would rank
last??? Oh ouch...
Idaho State plays in the Pac?
@poyFirst of all, I don't enjoy taking shots at BYU and the
WCC. I don't go on BYU articles and create hatred between the programs. I
comment only on Utah articles. My point was based on the WCC coaches
predicting USF to finish 4th in Men's Basketball for the 2013-2014 season
on October 24th. Doolin led his team in minutes played during the ISU game on
November 18th, 25 injury free days after the coaches were polled. Doolin left
the team after a fight in practice with another player several days after the
ISU game. If you review your comment you will find that you were wrong in
stating USF was missing key players for the ISU game.My screen name
is UtesBy5 because it was a popular saying a longtime Utah broadcaster used for
many years. It is not my prediction for the game on Saturday.
good post utesby5...