In my opinion, Collie is risking his health for a game that is a moment in time
compared to life after. As for Pitta, I hope he can return to his form, but
only stronger and better.GO UTES!!
Hey Chris,Why don't you tell us about the Ute football
powerhouse? You know 5-7 and can't even be invited to the "Welcome
Doormat" bowl. Using your reasoning we can say it was a successful season
since many prognosticated a 3-9 season for the Utes. Wow, now tell us how that
affects the NFL? Makes no sense.
While the game did not count towards Detroit's regular season record, it
was still this season that Ziggy scored a touchdown on a pick six in the
preseason. Once Pitta gets back into the flow the number of touchdowns is going
to rise. Meanwhile my OU boys AD, DeMarco Murray, and even the rookie Kenny
Stills are representing in that category!
That power house ute program keeps going down every year mor and more! If they
stay in form, they will win just one game in their conference of champions. Collie is a great player as he proved in his first couple of years in
the NFL. Pitta is a stud and will do well when he gets healthy.I
find it funny that u fans always want to compare BYU with everyone else but
themselves! Keep trying u fans, but come back when u get an NFL HoF player/
Super Bowl MVP, along with a trophy case Full of hardware. Being
jealous of their big brother just keeps coming up in their minds, but the cream
Always raises to the top!
You know Chris B good point. Man you pay a lot of attention to BYU. But you got
me thinking, help me out, I can't think of one ute who qb'd a winning
Super Bowl team, heck even a losing one. Can you? I can't even think if a
ute who is in the NFL hall of fame and I am racking my brains. Have the utes
ever had a Super Bowl MVP? Have they ever had an alum coach a Super Bowl
team?Hoping you can help me out.
We mustn't blame anyone for being infatuated with BYU. They have to find
something to cheer for (against). When your football team has cleaned out its
lockers already and the B ball team is playing 3A high school teams, you have to
have something to put your energy into.
JD, to answer a couple of your questions, Larry Wilson was inducted into the Pro
Football Hall of Fame before Steve Young graduated high school, and George
Seifert coached Young to his Super Bowl win. Steve Smith will also likely be a
HOFer before the second BYU player ever makes it. Sorry if these facts damage
your argument.It's good to see Collie getting snaps again and
will be great to see Pitta make it back on the field, as well. Collie is a
decent NFL WR. Like Brandon Stokley and several other Colts slot receivers, he
benefitted greatly from the best passer in NFL history throwing to him his first
few years. While it'd be great to his athletic legacy to see him reach
stardom, I'd be much happier seeing him walk away with the health he
currently has than to see him as a perennial Pro Bowler while continuing the
injury pattern he's shown thus far.
McMahon may not be in the HOF, but I will take that BYU 1st round pick as QB
over any 1st round QB pick that has come from the UofU, in fact over any Ute QB
that may come in the future. Feeling pretty confident that there won't be
many of those in the next 20 or so years for the UofU.
"George Seifert coached Young to his Super Bowl win."No, it
was actually 49ers Offensive Coordinator Mike Shanahan, who mentored Steve Young
just as he would mentor John Elway in the years to come. In the 1994
season, after a loss in a much anticipated game to Joe Montana and the Kansas
City Chiefs, the 49ers won their next two games before losing to the
Philadelphia Eagles 40–8 at Candlestick Park, a game in which Young was
eventually benched in the middle of an offensive series. Although
head coach George Seifert later said he only pulled Young because he was getting
manhandled by the Eagles' defense, Young had had enough of being
scapegoated for 49ers shortfalls and loudly (and visibly) lambasted Seifert over
his decision. The game was considered a turning point in the season;
from there, Young led the team to 10 consecutive wins, by an average of 20
points. On the strength of a six touchdown performance that surpassed the
previous Super Bowl record of five, owned by the man Young replaced, Joe
Montana, Steve Young was named the MVP of Super Bowl XXIX, as the 49ers defeated
the San Diego Chargers, 49-26.
Major College Football Hall of Fame PlayersBYU - SIXGifford
Nielsen (QB), 1994Marc Wilson (QB), 1996Jim McMahon (QB), 1999Steve Young (QB), 2001Gordon Hudson (TE), 2009Ty Detmer (QB),
2012Utah - NONE
Have u noticed how quiet the u fans get when they are presented with facts? I am
just waiting for one of them to say, " yea, but we belong to the PAC 12 and
you don't". Which is really saying, "everybody beats us up in our
conference and we like being in the basement where it is cold and dark and we
very seldom even get a player who does anything of import in the NFL".Have fun on your couch watching your "no bowl" game for the
second year in a row.
Lonestar: "No, it was actually 49ers Offensive Coordinator Mike
Shanahan"No, actually read the post I was responding to, then
you can determine what criteria "counts." It's crazy how insecure
one innocuous comment can make certain people just because of its source.
Collie isn't big enough for the pro game. He is risking lots of further
damage.He was very good in college, but not really pro material.
"Collie . . benefitted greatly from the best passer in NFL history throwing
to him his first few years."Anyone with an ounce of football
knowledge knows this, but you can say the same thing about many of the most
prolific receivers of all-time. It's a chicken-and-egg argument. Was Jerry
Rice's success his own or was it the result of getting hit in the numbers
by Joe Montana and Steve Young for most of his career? Yes and yes.There's a reason that Peyton Manning lobbied the Colts to draft Collie
and there's a reason Collie was one of his favorite targets for years.
I'll take Peyton's obvious opinion that Collie was "NFL
material" over the opinion of "Some Guy on the Internet."
I'd want both Collie and Pitta on my side if I could choose a team. Hope
they both heal and progress as their potential suggests.Johnny
Moser, are you the same guy I went to high school with in Afton in the early 70s
are or you just using his name? Either way, I enjoy your comments.
Slop, did I say Collie is not NFL material? You're misrepresenting me by
mashing something I didn't say into something I did.
StGtoSLC . . No; I was kind of responding to both you and Mike in Sandy at the
same time and didn't make that clear.
mikeinsandy,I wonder if Austin has had a chance to read your post? I
mean with the medical expertise you have offered he might want to change his
mind about playing additional snaps for the Patriots...Also, the
professional expertise that was offered came a little too late... Had the Colts
known what you know I am certain that they would not have drafted him in the 4th
round and made him a "go to" starting receiver on their 2010 Superbowl
bound team... That same year Collie was also among the top Rookies in the
Receiver Position across the entire NFL according to his stats... But Stats can
be manipulated and I am fairly certain that you have to be right and that he was
not "Pro Material"
Can we please stop the nonsense of comparing BYU to Utah in every freaking
article?Everybody knows about BYU's golden age when they played
in the WAC and owned the Holiday Bowl had HOF QBs and won an NC.Utah
had a couple of great years and won two BCS games.Both good
things.Utah is now in the PAC-12. Good for them.BYU is
independent, playing nationally, with most games televised on ESPN network,
BYUtv, et al. This is good for BYU.As for haters like Chris B and
his pseudonyms, enjoy his simplistic silliness. Its fun to see his fearless
predictions go bad. I have nothing against Utah, but tend to root against them
because I love to see Chris B have to eat crow.
"tell us, which Ute alum is coaching a major college or NFL team...Oh yeah,
Chow at 1/11 Hawaii!"ThoJeff:Mike McCoy, the San
Diego Chargers current head coach, was the Ute QB in 1994--the year of the
second 34-31 game. Utah finished with a Top Ten ranking. And before you point
out that the one BYU alum coaching in the NFL has a better record this season,
just remember he's done it with a couple of Utes on his roster.
Wow...You all sound like a bunch of children arguing over what toy
car is the best.WWJD?
I must say that I am in the same vein as Blue Husky.
Austin Collie got re-signed by the Patriots?Cool!I
looked him up on the internet just the other day and was sad (but not surprised)
that the Patriots let him go after he got hurt in November.He'd
be a Hall of Famer if he could only stay healthy.Go Cougars! Go
How about Larry Wilson. Played for the Utes and Cardinals. Given credit for
starting the safety blitz. Great ball player. I think he's probably in
the NFL hall of fame.
GD, yes, Wilson was a first ballot Hall of Fame inductee in 1978.