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  • TFUDD SLC, UT
    Dec. 1, 2013 6:49 p.m.

    "Eight wins are hard to get,” Mendenhall said. “I don’t care who you are playing or what situation.”

    Really Bronco? No matter who you play?...Tennessee state, Houston, Idaho state, Nevada, Boise State(without their starting QB) Texas was a sweet win but other than that there are no other signature wins. This should've been a minimum of a 9 win season.

    8 wins is not hard no matter who you play. There are way to many "gimme" wins on this schedule. Props on a pretty good season thought.

  • No playoff for U Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 1, 2013 7:37 p.m.

    TFUDD

    BYU beat SIX bowl teams that won at least 7 regular season games each.

    #32 Texas(8-3)
    #92 Mid Tenn St(8-4)
    #42 Utah St(8-4)
    #30 Georgia Tech(7-5)
    #47 Houston(8-4)
    #46 Boise St(8-4)

    Don't blame BYU because the mighty weak Utes weren't good enough to beat #34 Washington St(6-6) or #36 Oregon St(6-6) to secure a winning record.

  • TFUDD SLC, UT
    Dec. 1, 2013 7:54 p.m.

    *though

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    Dec. 1, 2013 9:10 p.m.

    BYU really struggles getting up for most big games (they usually do well for bowl games) and road games. I think this can be solved if they hold plenty of open practices next fall at Rice Eccles Stadium.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 1, 2013 9:09 p.m.

    Byu's bowl opponent is likely Washington. Watching Washington I am amazed at their athleticism and SPEED.

    And if anyone thinks by beating Texas you have somehow proven that superior athleticism doesn't matter, I am happy to offer plenty of evidence it does. Does it guarantee wins? No, and I never said it does. I just said it matters.

    Rest up indeed. Byu couldn't beat the number 10 PAC 12 team. Can they beat the number 6 team? Even a very average PAC 12 team is incredibly good.

    We will see who Vegas favors once the matchup is announced, but I have a feeling the experts will favor an average PAC 12 team over byu. Perhaps I am wrong, we will see.

    Any guesses from others on who The Vegas experts will think is better?

  • TFUDD SLC, UT
    Dec. 1, 2013 9:41 p.m.

    @No playoff for U

    So are you saying that if a team wins 7 games in a terrible conference. Most of those teams win's(except for Texas and Georgia Tech) were against terrible teams.

    UNLV won 7 games this year...does that mean they are good? No they are terrible. Personally I think BYU is better. As a Utah fan I expected BYU to win 8 games this year. I thought that the Virginia game would've been a win and the Texas game a loss but it's sports....anything can happen

  • Alpiner Alpine, UT
    Dec. 1, 2013 9:42 p.m.

    BYU's problems seem to be that they buy into the local sportscasters and talk radio jock opinions about how they will beat Wisconsin, Notre Dame, Utah and destroy Nevada. They seem to think that they just need to show up to win.

    Washington should mop them up pretty easily in the Fight Hunger Bowl.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Dec. 1, 2013 9:46 p.m.

    BYU, and Utah could help each other with a short fall scrimmage to prepare for the new season

    @TFUDD--Boise State, Utah State, etc were good wins.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Dec. 1, 2013 11:17 p.m.

    Here we go again. My team celebrated their bowl victory in September over the rival who must not be named, and finished with a resounding thud. Again. I know! I'll make myself feel better by reminding my past rival rival how nothing they did good was all that good.

    Your no good, you're no good, you're no good, baby you're no good.

    I feel better now! So, how about some basketball?

  • Rose Bowl call yet? Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 1, 2013 11:20 p.m.

    christy

    "BYU couldn't beat the number 10 PAC 12 team. Can they beat the number 6 team?"

    Neither could Stanford, yet the Cardinal somehow managed to beat Washington.

    After playing Texas, Wisconsin, Georgia Tech, and Notre Dame, BYU is not going to be awed by Washington; respectful, yes; awed, hardly.

    Let's not forget, BYU has already beaten PAC 12 teams like Oregon 38-8 and Oregon St 44-20 in previous bowls.

  • Rose Bowl call yet? Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 1, 2013 11:27 p.m.

    Alpiner

    Utah's problems seem to be that they buy into the local sportscasters and talk radio jock opinions about how the Utes will be competitive in the PAC 12, instead of facing reality that the Utes are simply in over their heads.

    4-5
    3-6
    2-7

    9-18(33%) in your first three seasons, and not looking any better for next season.

    btw, it's laughable that Utah fans are now waving the flag for a Washington program that the Utes have NEVER beaten 0-8; meanwhile, BYU is 4-4 versus the Huskies, including wins in 2008 and 2010 during the Bronco era.

  • Christy B Salt Lake City, Utah
    Dec. 1, 2013 11:46 p.m.

    Since we're already on the outside looking in at the bowls, the only thing my little sister and I have left to talk about is BYU and their soon to be announced bowl opponent.

    Even though Bronco is 2-0 versus Washington, while Kyle has been absolutely man-handled by the Huskies 14-31 and 15-34, we still have the audacity to pretend that we're the equal of Washington and therefore entitled to talk smack in behalf of a program that has owned us.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Dec. 2, 2013 1:00 a.m.

    BYU has become a doctor:

    Our follow utes fans are trying to heal their pain by saying, "if we can't beat PAC 12 teams, neither can you".

    Amazing how BYU is the focal point of ute success.

  • Frozen Chosen Savage, MN
    Dec. 2, 2013 7:07 a.m.

    I hope BYU's bowl opponent is Washington - it will be a good test for the Cougs as the Huskies are a good squad and will give them one more chance to redeem their mediocre season.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Dec. 2, 2013 7:35 a.m.

    @Y Dad/Y Grad

    Going 8-4 and to a bowl game is good for BYU. Beating BYU was good for Utah. Unfortunately losing to ASU, Arizona, UCLA and Oregon State in oh so close games was bad. That's the way it goes. Good luck vs U W; that is one tough team. Bishop Sankey is the real deal. I hope all is well in the tri-cities Guy!

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Dec. 2, 2013 8:07 a.m.

    @TFUDD--than BYU loses to 2 teams not going to a bowl, and for two years, can't win half their games.

    Go figure!

  • JMT Springville, UT
    Dec. 2, 2013 8:27 a.m.

    BYU was oh so close to going 11 and 1, with Wisonsin not being so close. A few 'ifs and buts' and it would be a different season. The same can be said of Utah, with a few plays in each of several games would be going bowling with a 9-3 or 10-2 record.

    ...but here we are. Both teams are pretty good. Both teams made a few critical errors that cost them. And both teams have a solid core to build on for next year. I only root against Utah one game a year and I've come out on the thin end of that stick five years running! Crud!!

    Anyway, best of luck to BYU in the bowl game. Hoping Utah get's those few plays a game next year.

    PS Best game would be Washington, with Steve Sarkesian, former BYU signal caller now on the sidelines. Would be fun, again.

  • iluvnz Vernal, UT
    Dec. 2, 2013 8:53 a.m.

    Well said JMT. My sentiments exactly!!

  • TrueBlue Orem, UT
    Dec. 2, 2013 8:57 a.m.

    TFUDD

    "So are you saying that if a team wins 7 games in a terrible conference."

    See every Utah bowl team from 1964 through 2010, including:

    2004 - 67th SOS, only 3 regular season opponents with winning records, none better than 7-5, and only 1 opponent from a decent conference with a winning record

    2008 - 56th SOS, only 1 regular season win versus an opponent from a decent conference with a winning record

    According to the new Utah fan narrative, Utah's entire football history is built on a slate of mediocrity in a terrible conference.

    Take of those crimson-colored, BYU-hating goggles already. BYU played the 32nd toughest schedule in 2013, tougher by almost 10 places than Utah's toughest schedule EVER, 41st, prior to 2013.

  • Daved6 Sandy, UT
    Dec. 2, 2013 9:21 a.m.

    BYU has played their worst games after rests. I'm not feeling confident here. Washington, though has been very inconsistent and has some holes (sounds like BYU to me), is going to be tough.

  • What in Tucket? Provo, UT
    Dec. 2, 2013 10:09 a.m.

    Neither BYU or Utah are quite there as yet. I was disappointed BYU had to squeak by Nevada. I love to watch BYU, but are not a top 25 team.

  • 3grandslams Iowa City, IA
    Dec. 2, 2013 11:06 a.m.

    Eight wins was what I was hoping for at the beginning of the year. So I got what I wanted and considering a new O scheme, coaches, soph QB and a very tough schedule...Kudo's to the Cougars! Nice work.

    Oh and we get to go bowling for Christmas! Way to go Bronco!

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Dec. 2, 2013 12:03 p.m.

    Playing Wisconsin and ND back to back weeks will help the Y in their bowl game against any Pac12 opponent. Other than Oregon and possibly Stanford I would say both Wisconsin and ND are better opponents.

  • bigirish OREM, UT
    Dec. 2, 2013 12:09 p.m.

    I don't know, it looked like Hill in that Nevada first half, didn't wait long enough to find a receiver and just opted for his legs too much - and wasn't running things well. I think he always has that temptation, to run, and defenses know that. Thank goodness, Williams got free for some long runs And then, our line blocked better and TH made some good runs in the second half, more designed runs I think. He was really shifty in that last big run. That's a good one two punch if our line can open holes - and then he can throw when the secondary is soft. Good in luck in the Bowl Game!

  • BlueHusky Mission Viejo, CA
    Dec. 2, 2013 12:29 p.m.

    Husky alum here: UW has been weird this year. Started out 4-0 (Boise, Idaho State, Illinois, Arizona) then lost three straight (Stanford, Oregon, ASU), beat 3 of next four( wins: Cal, CU, WSU; loss: UCLA).

    Washington lost only to really good teams: Stanford, Oregon, ASU, UCLA.

    BYU lost to UVA, Utah, Wisconsin, Notre Dame.

    But UW had a mature offense, while BYU's two bad losses were early when the offense was brand new.

    I think BYU's defense is better than UW's defense. Price is still hampered by injury, Price is best RB in the PAC-12 IMO.

    Price does not run but is a much better passer than Hill. Sankey seems relentless and inexhaustible. I think BYU will have to score 30 to beat UW.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Dec. 2, 2013 12:51 p.m.

    8-4 was respectable, given BYU's strength of schedule this year. It wasn't a great season, but it was respectable. Strength of schedule was higher than the average Big 5 strenght of schedule. It was probably higher than any other schedule the Cougs have faced.

    Before you start, cb, I'm not arguing that BYUs SOS was equal to Utah's - it wasn't. But Utah proved that they are not ready for their SOS. BYU was.

    Hoping we'll get a few of the wounded warriors back for the bowl game. We could really use Hadley and Danielsen. Not having them really hurt us against Wisconsin and ND. Also hoping Eathyn will be back at 100%

  • Mildred in Fillmore Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 2, 2013 1:39 p.m.

    Easy to get all banged up playing in the Independant Conference with the schedule that we have to play.

  • Ed Grady Idaho Falls, ID
    Dec. 2, 2013 3:32 p.m.

    In honor of the holiday season, BYU fans should show some compassion and mercy and invite a Ute fan to watch the Fight Hunger Bowl. As you know, Ute fans have no where to go for the bowl season, and this would be a great way to help those less fortunate.

  • wahului Stockton, CA
    Dec. 2, 2013 6:21 p.m.

    Ed Grady, you have a heart of gold!

  • Wayne Rout El Paso, TX
    Dec. 2, 2013 7:15 p.m.

    They only played half a game at Reno and they are tired?

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Dec. 2, 2013 9:51 p.m.

    Spokane Ute
    Spokane, WA

    Good to hear from you, bro!

    This year neither team was as bad as their worst loss, and not as good as their best win. And while I can agree that Utah had the tougher schedule and thus more losses, do you think that Utah did not progress well as the season wore on?

    I honestly think BYU got better, Nevada notwithstanding.

    Hope life is good in Zag country!

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Dec. 2, 2013 9:52 p.m.

    BYU couldn't beat the utes the past few years, but did beat Boise State who has never loss to them.

  • SLCWatch Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 2, 2013 11:41 p.m.

    Well, Steve Sarkisian might not be on the sidelines for the Game if it is Washington. Usually new head coaches leave before the bowls and go start the recruiting thing for the new school. Good luck to Sarkisian.

    I thought the Y did pretty good against even their toughest opponents as they did better than most teams did. Wisconsin allowed more points and scored less except in their losses. Notre Dame could have been a win earlier but injuries played to big a part.

    But the place BYU is in was also demonstrated by losing so many key players in the late part of the season and having so many walking wounded. I know the coaches were scrambling to even put a team out at Nevada. Injuries showed that the greatest challenges for the coaches is to overcome the depth problems they have. The Y needs a deeper bench.

  • 2BCSWINS West of I15, UT
    Dec. 3, 2013 8:32 a.m.

    @Rose bowl call yet?......"btw, it's laughable that Utah fans are now waving the flag for a Washington program that the Utes have NEVER beaten 0-8; meanwhile, BYU is 4-4 versus the Huskies, including wins in 2008 and 2010 during the Bronco era."

    BTW it's laughable you have to list the huskies record vs the utes as you can't list your own teams vs the utes. Your screen name screams the jealousy you have for Utah. You're right the rose bowl hasn't called yet but the fiesta and sugar have. No BCS bowl has and never will call for your cougies however....LOL!

    @worf..."Amazing how BYU is the focal point of ute success."

    Yet pretty much every comment you make has to do with the utes....LOL!

  • 2BCSWINS West of I15, UT
    Dec. 3, 2013 8:38 a.m.

    @cougiefaninTX..."But Utah proved that they are not ready for their SOS. BYU was."

    How do you figure? The Y would have been 2 - 10 with Utah's schedule and Utah would have been 11 - 1 with the cougies schedule.

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    Dec. 3, 2013 10:33 a.m.

    2b

    The main point that you and your jealous crimson bubble dwelling friends are missing from this whole discussion is this:

    "Cougars looking forward to rest, bowl game"

    When was the last time the Utes were "looking forward to rest, bowl game" after the regular season?

    BYU's record versus Washington (a team that Utah has never beaten in 8 tries) is very relevant to this discussion, since BYU will very likely be facing the Huskies in the Fight Hunger Bowl.

    BYU's recent record versus Utah is completely irrelevant to this discussion since the only bowl the wannabe bowl-bound Utes will participating in is the couch potato bowl.

    btw, it was a jealous Utah fan who hypocritically opened the discussion trying to minimize an accomplishment that the Utes were incapable of achieving - nine straight bowl invitations during the Bronco/Kyle era.

  • BeSmart Cheyenne, WY
    Dec. 3, 2013 1:30 p.m.

    @ 2 BCSWINS
    How do you figure that BYU would have been 2-10?
    Little too much colorado spice in your cheerios.
    It is funny when people assume stuff that they have no idea about. It makes them seem desperate and naive.
    Utah was a decent team this year but honestly to say BYU would have done this against their schedule is hilarious, BYU beat 6 bowl teams (and yes that is a good thing) Utah beat 2.
    Check out the USA Today rerankings 2 of BYU's 4 losses were to 2 of the worst 3 division 1 programs they faced.
    According to the experts BYU played worst against bad teams.

  • Striker Omaha, NE
    Dec. 3, 2013 9:02 p.m.

    Given how the media tabbed this the hardest schedule ever, which it wasn't, 8-4 is very respectable, especially with a new offense.

    We have to hope to play Washington. WSU and OSU could kill us with their passing game, especially OSU. Washington is a really good team. If BYU loses, it would be better to lose to a 8-4 team instead of a 6-6 team with a killer passing attack to expose BYU's mega weakness. OSU nearly beat Oregon. They would be no calk walk. I'll take any team but OSU.