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Utah basketball: Delon Wright stuffs the stat sheet in Ute victory over Ball State

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  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 27, 2013 10:16 p.m.

    Loved the energy tonight

    It's better beating worse teams than losing to ranked team.

    Congrats to undefeated PAC 12 utes !

    This team will finish between 4-6 in the PAC 12 I think. Ton of talent on this team

    Go utes!

  • MyPerspective Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 27, 2013 10:18 p.m.

    Outstanding effort tonight. Well done, Utes!

  • UteNationAlum Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Nov. 27, 2013 10:21 p.m.

    This team is fun to watch and are going to make some noise in the pac12 this year! Thanks for fueling excitement back into the program coach K! Delon Wright is a baller. I think that kid could be next level talent. Keep it up and GO UTES!

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Nov. 27, 2013 10:24 p.m.

    Wright and Onwas give the season some good optimism. No dominant post presence this year, but good team effort to defend the paint so far. Uncharacteristic free throw shooting tonight. Maybe they borrowed the Cougars' practice routine this week? (I jest.) That was the last tune up before what should be a couple really tough teams, the tougher one (no disrespect, just judging by what I've seen in addition to what the pollsters and pundits determine) coming on the road.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 27, 2013 11:04 p.m.

    Great job. So fun to be at the games. This program is headed back to where we belong.

    Undefeated PAC 12 utes!

  • Magna Ute Fan Magna, UT
    Nov. 27, 2013 11:10 p.m.

    Good game tonight. There were a couple impressive bursts of intensity. There were some great athletic displays. I am really excited to see what they can do against better competition.

  • Alex H Murray, UT
    Nov. 27, 2013 11:25 p.m.

    Is this really news? The "undefeated" utes have won yet another game? That should be fairly easy considering their SOS is 351 out of how many teams? Ahh yes...351. Too bad that streak will end once Pac-11.5 play begins.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    Nov. 28, 2013 12:16 a.m.

    "undefeated pac12 utes"...lol.

    You don't get prepared for the pac12 or even the MWC (as you will soon find out against Boise State) by playing NAIA and Division II teams...

    It's like trying to prepare for Daytona by riding your bicycle around East High's quarter mile track...

    The only way the utes go undefeated in the pac12 is if they cancel all of their scheduled games... Didn't the DN say that the utes "snagged 10th place last year, as though it was a big accomplishment??? It will be a similar conference performance again this year... And like football, there will be no post season... And against BYU... the utes will lose their 12th in the past 13 meetings...

    go Broncos.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 28, 2013 12:28 a.m.

    This is a fun team to watch. Hope we can continue the streak on the road.

  • RBN Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 28, 2013 7:47 a.m.

    @Chris B

    You said, "It's better beating worse teams than losing to ranked team." You can't have it both ways buddy. Or is that true only in basketball?

    I'd like to see Utah have a tougher preseason schedule.

  • LCBSoCal Northridge, CA
    Nov. 28, 2013 8:07 a.m.

    It's interesting, and kind of fun, to watch fans of other Utah schools (mostly BYU fans, I'm guessing) pretend that Utah basketball will never return to a nationally competitive level. Wishing doesn't make it so, guys.

  • golfrUte SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Nov. 28, 2013 8:27 a.m.

    I like the direction of the program under Coach K, but let's be honest, Ball State is the first decent team we've played. The first five games were nothing more than exhibitions. I hope there will be better pre-season scheduling in the future to get the team ready for conference play and to help with strength of schedule.
    Coach K is proving to be an effective recruiter and Coach Conner is a terrific bench coach. After Chris Hill's disastrous hiring of Giacoletti and Boylen the program was as low as it could go. It will take time to get the program where it needs to be but I see progress on the floor and in recruiting. The new Basketball center will be another first class facility that will help with recruiting.

    Go Utes!

  • MyPerspective Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 28, 2013 8:32 a.m.

    LCBSoCal
    Northridge, CA

    Your observation is right on point. I noticed that at least one of the posters you refer to above considers himself a veritable intellectual giant, too. Funny stuff. Best of all is the fact that byu fans still think Utah is their competition. They can't accept the fact that they have been relegated to gymnasiums with pull out bleachers. Comments from byu fans are always a fun read.

    I agree with all of the observations above...our Utes looked very sharp again last night. It will be fun to see how they respond to the competition that awaits them in the Pac-12.

    Go Utes!

  • Joe Schmoe Orem, UT
    Nov. 28, 2013 8:46 a.m.

    Hate to break it to you but Ball state isn't a decent team. We still don't know anything about this Utah squad. How long until a real game is scheduled? No bowl game in football, back to back LOSING seasons, and for sure no post season in basketball with this "we give up before the season even starts" pre season schedule.

    What happened to the sports program? It used to be of a decent caliber….

  • CougarSunDevil Phoenix, AZ
    Nov. 28, 2013 9:23 a.m.

    I thought it was a disgrace to play inferior opponents. I thought it was better to lose to the ranked ASU's, UCLA's, and Oregon's of the world than beat the "mediocre" Boise State's, Texas' , and Georgia Tech's of the world. Oh, it must be the justice for you, but mercy for me mentality.

  • MyPerspective Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 28, 2013 9:29 a.m.

    Joe Schmoe (from Orem Utah)
    "Hate to break it to you but Ball state isn't a decent team. We still don't know anything about this Utah squad."

    All true and I don't see anyone arguing differently. However, for your benefit I will repeat this comment... It will be fun to see the Utes respond to the competition that awaits them in the Pac-12.

    Utah athletics is doing just fine. Our football team has shown that the theories behind the creation of the BCS are valid and our basketball team is reversing a long slide downward in dramatic fashion. Thanks for asking.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    Nov. 28, 2013 10:05 a.m.

    The utes are not only having a tough time with constructing a competitive schedule to prepare them for Conference play, they are having a very tough time even getting their fans to the games...

    So far the average attendance (through 6 games all played at home)... 8,000 people... As a comparison, Through 4 games, the Team just 40 miles south is averaging 16,000... (twice as many)... Don't you think that for a team that plays in the big bad pac12 to be pulling in half the number of fans for their games compared to a team that supposedly plays in gyms with roll out bleachers has to be a fairly big embarrassment for the utes as well as the pac12?... lol.

  • What in Tucket? Provo, UT
    Nov. 28, 2013 10:17 a.m.

    I think it is fair to say Utah seems to be improving. I doubt they beat BYU this year, but what comes down is likely to go up. BYU should have a good season and since there are no seniors it seems they have an upside potential.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    Nov. 28, 2013 10:25 a.m.

    @
    LCBSoCal

    Northridge, CA

    Who's "wishing"??? We are simply looking at the facts... I cannot recall any team in Division I basketball falling so fast from a position of prominence to a position of "also ran" (in fact, on the lower side of "also ran")... When Majerus left the basketball program fell on its face and never recovered and the Football program is looking to do the same thing... Sad but true.

    I hope that the utes Athletic Department won't look to do the same thing to attempt to rebuild their Football program as they have in basketball... It would be a shame to see RES with 50% vacant seats while the fans who do come have to watch their team play Evergreen State, Grand Canyon, Lamar and Ball State.

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Nov. 28, 2013 10:33 a.m.

    CougarSunDevil, frankly I think trying to argue either point is pretty dumb. However, in case you didn't notice, Chris' comments have been in response to the BYU fans trying to have their argument both ways. Again, not taking sides, it's a stupid argument from either standpoint. However, in basketball your Devils have done nearly the same thing scheduling a couple very good teams (Creighton, Marquette), a couple respectable teams (UNLV, who doesn't appear to be the UNLV caliber we are used to, and Texas Tech) and the rest terrible teams. So far it's worked for them, great win over Marquette the other night! I'm hoping the same will happen with Utah's team.

  • Th Tooele, UT
    Nov. 28, 2013 10:39 a.m.

    I love it....

    BYU fans are all over it, yet they actually have nothing to show for it in these past few years that Utah has been down. In fact, the only team in this state that has anything to brag about is Weber State with the baller they sent up to Portland!

    Those who can't see Utah's vast improvement are either blind or ignorant. Schedule isn't great. Who cares! Ball State took Butler to the wire at Butler. Utah routed them! I think most of us recognize Butler.

    Utah will compete and possibly beat Boise State, who have been tabbed as this years Final Four Cinderella. They will beat BYU. They had them on the ropes last year in the far superior MC. At least as BYU fans put it. BYU has a good recruiting pipeline from the church. What happens when we go 2-3 years without a decent LDS athlete? The program slips considerably. The WCC will not bring the athletes that Utah will be able to get. Especially with Krystokwiak at the helm. Utah's recruiting is taking shape.

    Go Utes! Can't wait for conference play!

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 28, 2013 11:37 a.m.

    RBn,

    It's byu fans who say its better to pad your record with lesser competition than losing to ranked teams

  • MyPerspective Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 28, 2013 11:50 a.m.

    poyman
    Lincoln City, OR

    "The utes are not only having a tough time with constructing a competitive schedule to prepare them for Conference play, they are having a very tough time even getting their fans to the games...

    Once again, poyman, I must take the time to educate you.

    First, Utah scheduled who they wanted and where they wanted to play them (at home). It is true that Dr. Hill recently acknowledged that the big basketball names want a home and home arrangement. Dr. Hill correctly waived off on any such commitment. I suppose it's similar to the struggles Holmoe has in scheduling big names in football. The current situation with Utah basketball certainly will change. The current situation with byu basketball...not so much.

    As for the attendance...you do realize, I'm sure, that there are on average approximately 2,000 more empty seats at byu. That doesn't look good especially given all the crowing you people are doing about coug basketball? btw...the Utes ranked 4th in attendance last year in the Pac-12.

  • I'll call it Ogden, UT
    Nov. 28, 2013 12:28 p.m.

    What a great atmosphere last night up on the hill, which will only get better. Major improvement over last season. Can’t wait to see how this and the next few seasons pan out.

    Still too many retired devils commenting on everything Utah. Didn’t know that so many still cared.

    Go Utes!

  • kfbob SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Nov. 28, 2013 1:02 p.m.

    I guess the question to ask yourself is why play such poor competition? Boylens and Giac teams would be 5-1 or 6-0 right now too. It is too early to see if things have changed at the U. I expect Utah to be 9-10 in the conference. They have a decent shot at beating BYU if they can slow the pace to the 50-60 pt range.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    Nov. 28, 2013 1:30 p.m.

    @Th,

    You are obviously not being serious when you say "BYU... actually have nothing to show for it in these past few years that Utah has been down".

    Most people would agree that 6 NCAA invites and a Sweet 16 appearance, 2 NIT invites and a Final 4 NIT appearance, 4 Conference Championships, and a Naismith Award winner is far more than "nothing"... Anyone that doesn't know that it is far more than "nothing" is either ignorant of anything concerning college basketball or is knowingly being illogical and unreasonable in Debate...

    As for the predictions, I don't know who we are alluding to when we say that Boise State is a "Dark Horse" for the Final Four this year but trust me, no wager on this person's advise... As for Utah finally beating BYU (after losing 11 out of the last 12 games and being totally out recruited) again, don't wager on it unless you are wanting to throw money away... BYU by 10 points (just like they did against Stanford).

    Oh, and your comments about members of the WCC being weaker recruiters? The proof is in the pudding... According to the RPI Utah would have finished 6th last year in the wcc.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    Nov. 28, 2013 3:14 p.m.

    @myperspective... The HC seats over 15.000... The MC seats 20,900... Now I am not a math wizard but I can handle basic arithmetic... And that arithmetic tells me that 16,000 per game against a 20,900 capacity is about 77%, while 8,000 against a 15,000 capacity is about 53%... A differential of about 24% (in any comparison that is huge)... Not only that, BYU has actually sold more tickets in 4 games than Utah has sold in 6 games... The fact that some ute fans try to justify the difference based on the number of empty seats in the areana is kind of humorous... Particularly when we begin the comparison by offering to "educate me"... lol.

    As for the discussion regarding Hill's scheduling strategy, I would hope that he would not agree to home and home games against Grand Canyon, Savanah State, and Evergreen State... But trust me, that's not a big coup that he pulled off... Any Division 1 team would not be doing home and home schedules with NAIA and Division II and III teams.

  • MyPerspective Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 28, 2013 4:55 p.m.

    poyman
    Lincoln City, OR

    You know, poyman...I thought the MC seats 25,000. Are you certain it's only 20,000? I have given byu way too much credit. Thanks for educating me in such a respectful way. At any rate, it's not so bad that only 20,000 have to sit on benches instead of actual seats.

    Still not sure why you and other byu fans are so concerned about Utah's pre-conference schedule. Isn't the conference line up more important? It certainly is for Utah. How about byu?

  • agb Layton, UT
    Nov. 28, 2013 6:15 p.m.

    My perspective:

    " Best of all is the fact that byu fans still think Utah is their competition. "

    Although there is nothing competitive about 11 of the last 12 and 7 in a row, as long as U are on our schedule, U will be 'competition.' Assuming of course your AD who is afraid of USU and your coach who is afraid of Weber State don't take BYU of the schedule [snicker].

  • TFUDD SLC, UT
    Nov. 28, 2013 7:14 p.m.

    @Chris B.

    So which is it? beat a bad team or lose to a ranked team?

  • LCBSoCal Northridge, CA
    Nov. 28, 2013 7:33 p.m.

    poyman, you still haven't made much of a case that Utah basketball will be down forever. Sorry, but during BYU's dark years, when Ute fans who are as partisan as you are predicted BYU would never be back, discerning college hoops fans knew that was a ridiculous point of view. It is still ridiculous when you espouse it.

  • giantfan Farmington, UT
    Nov. 28, 2013 8:35 p.m.

    MyPerspective,

    It's humorous that you make wild assumptions based on incorrect facts. You know, you're on the internet. You can look up things like Seating Capacity of basketball arenas on the web that Al Gore invented. It's the greatest thing since sliced bread! And go ahead and use that resource to find out that well more than half the seats in the MC are chairs, not benches.

    I, myself, am wondering how good and improved this Ute squad might be. I don't think that it's any clearer after playing Ball State last night. It's been called their best test yet but that doesn't really tell us anything. Ball State is #212 according to Sagarin. It's unfortunate that Utah has chosen this OOC schedule because I believe there is a real possibility they could challenge for an at-large NCAA bid. Their OOC schedule is so bad, it can only hurt them come Tourney selection time.

  • utah_man18 SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Nov. 28, 2013 9:55 p.m.

    Funny how many byu fans feel the need to come post on a story about Utah basketball. Why do you bother reading about a team you're so sure that you'll beat on the 14th?

    You can discount our schedule all you want, but Delon Wright (remember? The guy the article was actually about?) would start on quite a few teams around the nation, certainly on every team in this state.

    Oh, and I don't even know where to start with all of you bringing up the Utah football program. I would think if you were posting with the intent to taunt Ute fans you would steer away from the football arena, seeing that you've lost to Utah 4 years in a row, despite the fact that our last two teams have finished with losing records...

  • CrumJ Taylorsville, UT
    Nov. 29, 2013 12:27 a.m.

    Do people not know how scheduling works? Most of Utah's lame schedule was made in the midst of its worst season in program history two years ago. Last year the team still hadn't shown it was consistently capable of handling cupcakes, so there was no immediate need to change it. This year, it's clear the Utes are ready for more competition. It's all part of the multi-year rebuilding process — remember, Coach K had nothing and I mean NOTHING when he got here. He was hired in the spring after the recruiting process was over for the year!

    Now that Utah is looking like a legitimate D-1 squad, they'll start scheduling much more aggressive. Don't be surprised if you hear an announcement about a non-conference series against a big-name team that starts with a "K" in the near future.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 29, 2013 12:28 a.m.

    @ poyman

    "Don't you think that for a team that plays in the big bad pac12 to be pulling in half the number of fans for their games compared to a team that supposedly plays in gyms with roll out bleachers has to be a fairly big embarrassment for the utes as well as the pac12?... lol."

    Not supposedly. BYU does play in a conf. with roll out bleachers. The average size of a WCC gym (excluding the MC) is 4,700. Dixie St. and Salt Lake Community College have bigger gyms than that. And no it's not embarrassing that Utah draws less people than BYU because BYU has a bigger fan base, plus the Cougars have been better recently. What's embarrassing for you is that even during Utah's 6-win season, the Utes still had higher attendance than every other WCC team.

  • MyPerspective Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 29, 2013 7:15 a.m.

    giantfan
    Farmington, UT

    MyPerspective,

    "It's humorous that you make wild assumptions based on incorrect facts. You know, you're on the internet. You can look up things like Seating Capacity of basketball arenas on the web that Al Gore invented."

    Yeah, I could have looked it up but I don't care enough about the subject matter it to expend the effort. I chose to give byu way too much credit and now I look silly.

    Al Gore invented the Internet? Are you sure? Wasn't the Internet started as a military application by the US Department of Defense?

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Nov. 29, 2013 9:35 a.m.

    @kfbob

    No it's not too early to see if things have changed at the U:

    * No annual mass exodus from the program
    * Improved recruiting (#4 PAC-12 class in 2014)

    Regardless of how many creampuffs we feast on in the OOC schedule the fact remains Utah is much improved. Moving forward I would like to see teams like New Mexico, UNLV, and Utah State on our OOC schedule.

    Delon Wright is a beast, can't wait to see how he does against tougher competition.

    I think next season is when the fun begins. With Champman, Write, Loverdige, and Taylor I feel we have the core to start competing in the PAC-12.

    Go UTES!

  • giantfan Farmington, UT
    Nov. 30, 2013 10:24 p.m.

    MyPerspective,

    Well if you don't mind looking silly, who am I to stop you. You gave BYU too much credit? By thinking the MC had 5000 more seats than it does? Why is that credit? It appears more like you inflated the denominator to prove some point about the HC being more full percentage wise, Just a word of advice, when trying to argue a point, it's usually a good idea to do a little fact checking. Hence the reference to the internet.

    Al Gore invented the internet if you believe Al Gore. I was just trying to make a funny. I'll consider my audience next time.

  • Reno Cougs Fan 68 Reno, NV
    Dec. 1, 2013 2:21 a.m.

    CrumJ,
    While it is true football schedules are usually done 3-5 years out for OOC it is not the same in basketball! Most schedules are done in the off seasons because of so many pre-season and holiday tournaments!!! Also basketball coaches are much more involved and have a lot more say in OOC schedules in basketball then football! I think it is safe to say we know a little more about how BYU does against strong competition already this year then we know about Utah!!! I am looking forward to the game in the HC, anything can happen when BYU and Utah meet in any sporting event! Go BYU Rise Up!!!

  • oaklandaforlife SLC, UT
    Dec. 1, 2013 5:00 p.m.

    Can't wait until Dec 14 for a Utah victory on the hill. The win for the U will soften some of these ridiculous comments.