it is time to train cops how to read and pick correct names
Hey that's nothing. I have heard social security numbers, names and
addresses broadcast - in the clear -- on my scanner. Anyone with a cheap scanner
could monitor police channels and have plenty of information.
Fani, this is Utah where ticketing is a humongous money maker. It doesn't
matter to the state if people lose their personal information or identities.
The in car computer should "lock up" the information of the previous
citation so as to prevent this sort of mistake.
So did Allan notify the police dept of the mistake or was his first call to the
press? I'm thinking the latter.
lucky they didn't shoot him. but then again, it's heber not west
As a victim of Identity Fraud, some changes must be made.1. Tickets
should not include a social security number, ever.2. The recipient of a
ticket should be asked to verify that the name on the ticket is theirs.I found a debit card in an ATM machine at work. First, I called the bank that
issued the card, but only got a recording. I wanted to give my contact
information and the card number so they could contact the owner and I could give
it back. I only got a recording.Next I gave the card to a company
security officer. This clown filled out a "Lost Property Report" and
wrote down the card number and expatriation date and then he gave me a copy. I
handed it back and asked him to include the three digit code on the back of the
card. He almost gave it to me.What was he thinking?
This is what happens when online database programs are not properly tested or
vetted.The only things besides the infraction that should have been
listed on the paper copy are the person's name and address. Things such as:
Social Security numbers, date of birth, telephone number, height, weight, color
of eyes, color of hair should never be printed out on the ticket. As
bad as this one incident could have been (had the wrong person gotten a hold of
her information) just imagine what will happen when a hacker breaks into the
U.S. Federal government ObamaCare database and steals millions of names and
identities.By the way, a panel of computer experts recently
testified before Congress that they would never enter their personal information
into the online ObamaCare website. It's way too vulnerable.
Gosh, I wonder how that happened. Computer systems other than Obamacare all
Government at it's best. If we pay the police more they wont make mistakes,
will they.With regards to ID theft: banks don't care, stores
don't care (except for mom and pop stores who get stuck with the loss),
police don't care, credit card companies don't care. They say they do
but they don't do anything about it.I owned a store (mom and
pop) and had video of the thief. Nobody wanted it. They all have procedures to
mitigate their losses and that's all. The thief is allowed to do it again.
As I see it, why does anything more than the Name and drivers license number
(along with vehicle information) need to be on a ticket in the first place? I
fail to see why SSN, DOB, or even address need to be on the actual ticket as
that information is already available to law enforcement in the drivers license
database given a name and license number.
I had a cop pull me over for speeding recently and when issuing the citation
asked for my social security number. I asked him why he needed that and that I
did not feel comfortable providing that information. He did not question me,
said that's fine, and did not provide him my number. I also, unrelated,
had a guy who came to my house to sell us a new water heater and when filling
out forms asked for my social security number. I asked why he needed it and he
said "So that I know it's you." I flatly refused, he left, and I
did not have him come back.
Sorry, Ranch. In spite of your direct dig, Utah does not have a corner on the
"Tickets for Income" market.
Looks like somebody needs to be written up. there should be no reason to have a
Social Security number printed on the ticket even if it is entered into the
system. Technically Social Security numbers are only to be used for Social
Security and nothing else. Unfortunately colleges, law enforcement and other
organizations use it like it is a VIN number for our bodies. Law enforcement
should not be requesting Social Security numbers from anyone. It really is none
of their business and a violation of our fourth amendment rights. This is just
the beginning of the fight to preserve our rights. We as the public need to not
allow our private information and activities to be recorded in any way without a
Just go back to the old way of writing tickets in a ticket book and give the
person a signed copy like in the olden days. Make the cops do some extra work
instead of relying on the computer and actually have to write stuff down in a
legible manner. Problem solved.I'd not be paying that ticket.
My guess is that his info isn't even in the system because of the cops
Stop giving us tickets for speeding. That will solve the problem.99% of people are driving safely anyway.
The program ought to have been written so previous information entered is no
longer available once the citation prints and that you have to verify twice
In an arguably brave effort to cut down on junk mail, I often call the sender to
have my name removed from their mailing list. Not long ago I called CapitalOne
and gave the agent the address info on the brochure. He asked for the last 4
digits of my SS. Well, that was only the beginning of an unbelievably ridiculous
exchange; I'll spare the other bizarre details. I have never done any
business with the company and certainly never will.
@RanchCan you name a state where speeding tickets are not "a humongous
money maker." Better yet, name a state where speeding is not a significant
contributing factor to motor vehicle accidents. Your undocumented implication
that Utah is unique in issuing speeding tickets is deprecatory speculation.
I would happily take a speeding ticket in Utah. In California, a speeding ticket
costs around $450.00. With traffic school, you walk away spending close to 5
hundred bucks. Totally worth it.
there is absolutely NO reason for a social security number to be on a traffic
ticket. Also, the officer didn't notice he handed a ticket to a man, that
had a woman's name on it???
Imagine this happening (folks with shady backgrounds tied in with the Chicago
& middle east) hacking/having permissions with all our personal information
we may enter in the Obama care website...